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jiggy_55
02-20-2012, 03:29 AM
As reported by Marc Spears of Yahoo:

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
D-League Austin F Eric Dawson to sign 10-day contract with Spurs. The ex-D2 Midwestern State star is avg 15.9 pts and 10.1 rbs, source said.
https://twitter.com/#!/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/171507969685590018

ChumpDumper
02-20-2012, 03:33 AM
Congratulations to him. Finally being healthy has really paid off for him. Not quite sure if he's truly NBA material, but this is the way to find out.

sasffl
02-20-2012, 03:45 AM
Don't think he''ll stay

Hooks
02-20-2012, 05:55 AM
He'll only get garbage minutes or if another big gets injured and that's it. Based on the Spurs' upcoming schedule it looks like he won't get any PT at all.

Pop will stick to small ball with RJ/Kawhi playing PF.

Wild Cobra Kai
02-20-2012, 08:12 AM
He'll only get garbage minutes or if another big gets injured and that's it. Based on the Spurs' upcoming schedule it looks like he won't get any PT at all.

Pop will stick to small ball with RJ/Kawhi playing PF.

Utah will ram smallball down Pop's throat with Al J, Milsap, Favors, Kanter.

The kid will play. No more than 20 minutes, no less than 10. There is no possible way we can cover 96 big man position game minutes with Tim, Bonner, and Blair, especially with a B2B coming up.

Maddog
02-20-2012, 08:12 AM
Let's be honest- he is there for insurance and practice.

Wild Cobra Kai
02-20-2012, 08:28 AM
Let's be honest- he is there for insurance and practice.

No. Austin runs our system. The kid will play. That's the reason they didn't reach out to another d-league team like they frequently do to tap a prospect.

Bruno
02-20-2012, 08:38 AM
Not a surprise. timvp source(s) got it right.

Spurs needed an emergency stopgap with Splitter's injury. Dawson is that guy but it doesn't change the fact that Spurs front office should really try to improve Spurs' frontline.

By waiting until today to sign him, his 10 days contract will last enough to have him for the game against Chicago after the ASG.

jgome21
02-20-2012, 09:02 AM
Eh wouldn't look into this too much, he's only signed cuz Splitter's hurt right now. At least this kid's gettin a chance somewhere.

yavozerb
02-20-2012, 09:51 AM
I would expect Dawson to get some run right away. Dont forget, the spurs only have 3 bigs without him so unless he is absolutely terrible I would expect 8-15 minutes a night from him during his stay.

hater
02-20-2012, 10:05 AM
stop spewing BS. The Spurs are down to 1 big man. Blair + Bonner are no big men.

dbestpro
02-20-2012, 10:18 AM
Trying to survive this season on the cheap is really frustrating. I don't expect a big splash, but a few bucks over the tax line will pay for itself with a run deep in the palyoffs. The Spurs may be squeezing those pennies so tight they might lose dollars.

timvp
02-20-2012, 10:24 AM
Not a surprise. timvp source(s) got it right.

Unfortunately I was limited to the "smokin" emoticon since everyone associated with the decision to call him up was paranoid that any leak could start the 10-day contract a day early ... even though I'm not even sure that's how it works :lol

As for Dawson, when I've watched him in the past, he's never looked like an NBA player. I mean, he's been around the Toros for five years and I don't think the Spurs ever thought highly enough of him to even invite him to training camp. And when he was on the summer league team, he barely played ... and didn't look very good when he did play.

That said, his stats are a lot better this year. He also looks like he's in much better shape. Perhaps he got in shape, got healthy and made a sudden improvement in his game. Unlikely but I guess possible.

I'm not sure if I'm reading too much into it but the Spurs picking Dawson makes me believe Splitter's injury isn't overly serious. I doubt they go with Dawson as even a semi long-term fix. Going with Dawson strikes me more as a lifetime achievement call-up that the Toros can point to as a reason to stick around and keep "pounding on the rock".

Solid D
02-20-2012, 10:43 AM
The reason I was "feeling" the Dawson move was because he is a better pivot player with more body mass for interior play than someone like Malcolm Thomas or Leo Lyons, players with better floor games who might be more active. The Spurs needed to supplement interior play missing from Tiago.

Maddog
02-20-2012, 11:15 AM
No. Austin runs our system. The kid will play. That's the reason they didn't reach out to another d-league team like they frequently do to tap a prospect.

Kid?
He will soon be 28

SilverSpur
02-20-2012, 11:22 AM
He will be the next Jeremy Lin.

DPG21920
02-20-2012, 11:28 AM
The fact Tiago is still with the team, only listed as doubtful & they signed 'Ric points to Tiago being fine. This is a really small patch to what appears to be a really big problem. The Spurs had to act fast and this is the result. Hopefully a hungry player like Eric will come in with great energy when called upon.

Fireball
02-20-2012, 11:34 AM
Pop will use small ball and only play this guy if small ball led to a 20 point deficit. Hopefully Tiago comes back soon, but only if completely healthy ...

Trill Clinton
02-20-2012, 12:59 PM
I think he is the first player from San Antonio to play for the spurs

Beaverfuzz
02-20-2012, 01:00 PM
Looking forward to seeing him in action on Tuesday.

Nathan Explosion
02-20-2012, 01:03 PM
I think he is the first player from San Antonio to play for the spurs

Depends on how you define Devin Brown.

Trill Clinton
02-20-2012, 01:04 PM
Depends on how you define Devin Brown.

:lol I forgot about devin.

Kori Ellis
02-20-2012, 01:05 PM
Depends on how you define Devin Brown.

True. I automatically thought of Devin, but then remembered he was born in Salt Lake. IIRC, he moved here when he was 2 though ;) so I think he counts as San Antonian.

Nathan Explosion
02-20-2012, 01:06 PM
:lol I forgot about devin.

Took me a few seconds to remember his name. All I kept thinking in my head was, "What was the name of the player who committed the final turnover in Tracy McGrady's 13 second barrage to beat the Spurs?"

Trill Clinton
02-20-2012, 01:14 PM
Took me a few seconds to remember his name. All I kept thinking in my head was, "What was the name of the player who committed the final turnover in Tracy McGrady's 13 second barrage to beat the Spurs?"

lol smh

we have a lot of talent in San Antonio. Dawson from Sam Houston and Ivan Johnson(atlanta hawks) from Fox Tech. :hat

xellos88330
02-20-2012, 01:39 PM
I hope he can get a couple minutes here and there. New players are very interesting to watch, especially if they are picked up by the Spurs. Normally when I hear about a new player coming the the Spurs I get all giddy because this is the organization that has found some pretty good pieces before. Heres to hoping that they found a diamond in the rough! (Unlikely, but it never hurts to be optimistic.) :toast

yavozerb
02-20-2012, 01:47 PM
lol smh

we have a lot of talent in San Antonio. Dawson from Sam Houston and Ivan Johnson(atlanta hawks) from Fox Tech. :hat

Dont forget Jeff Foster (Pacers) from Madison and ben uzoh (nets) from Warren.

ajballer4
02-20-2012, 01:59 PM
Dont forget Jeff Foster (Pacers) from Madison and ben uzoh (nets) from Warren.

And Shaq.

ChumpDumper
02-20-2012, 02:13 PM
Unfortunately I was limited to the "smokin" emoticon since everyone associated with the decision to call him up was paranoid that any leak could start the 10-day contract a day early ... even though I'm not even sure that's how it works :lol

As for Dawson, when I've watched him in the past, he's never looked like an NBA player. I mean, he's been around the Toros for five years and I don't think the Spurs ever thought highly enough of him to even invite him to training camp. And when he was on the summer league team, he barely played ... and didn't look very good when he did play.

That said, his stats are a lot better this year. He also looks like he's in much better shape. Perhaps he got in shape, got healthy and made a sudden improvement in his game. Unlikely but I guess possible.

I'm not sure if I'm reading too much into it but the Spurs picking Dawson makes me believe Splitter's injury isn't overly serious. I doubt they go with Dawson as even a semi long-term fix. Going with Dawson strikes me more as a lifetime achievement call-up that the Toros can point to as a reason to stick around and keep "pounding on the rock".He was always getting injuries that would take up huge amounts of his seasons if not end them altogether. He simply hadn't missed any games due to injury this season; I guess his conditioning reflects this, though he does seem to wear down over the course of a game. In contrast, Leo Lyons just played a full 48 in Dawson's absence and continues to put up call up-worthy numbers.

Solid D is right that Dawson is the only Toro with the bulk to play center though he is a bit short. In fact he might be the only guy left in the D-League that really fits the strong bulky center description of any worth. We'll have to see if he gets the chance to play. He does have enough range (key jumper) to conceivably play with Duncan FWIW.

8FOR!3
02-20-2012, 02:43 PM
tbh he's probably an NBA player, it's just up to him to show it. If he has a midrange jumper at all there's a good chance he can play in the league. Literally, the only two things Jason Smith are good at is being a 7 footer and having a good midrange jumper.

wildbill2u
02-20-2012, 02:45 PM
"Going with Dawson strikes me more as a lifetime achievement call-up that the Toros can point to as a reason to stick around and keep "pounding on the rock". TIMVP

:rollin

ChumpDumper
02-20-2012, 02:46 PM
tbh he's probably an NBA player, it's just up to him to show it. If he has a midrange jumper at all there's a good chance he can play in the league. Literally, the only two things Jason Smith are good at is being a 7 footer and having a good midrange jumper.Were Dawson a 7 footer, he probably would have been drafted.

ChumpDumper
02-20-2012, 02:52 PM
Going with Dawson strikes me more as a lifetime achievement call-up that the Toros can point to as a reason to stick around and keep "pounding on the rock".That's kind of funny because Eric would usually spend at least part of the D-League season playing in Asia. He actually left this season to take Davis Bertans' place on Union Olimpija but the deal fell through.

therealtruth
02-20-2012, 03:13 PM
Why does the FO like undersized bigs so much? Get some real bigs with size.

xellos88330
02-20-2012, 04:34 PM
Why does the FO like undersized bigs so much? Get some real bigs with size.

Size by itself doesn't make a good player. It helps sure, but it really shouldn't be the standard to measure a players worth right off of the shelf.

Notable undersized bigs past and present are:

Chuck Hayes
Paul Millsap
Clarence Weatherspoon
Leonard Robinson
Larry Johnson
Ben Wallace
Dennis Rodman
Wes Unseld
Charles Barkley
Elgin Baylor

Just because he isn't tall, doesn't mean he can't be good. Let his skills do the talking, not his measurements.

jjktkk
02-20-2012, 04:42 PM
Dont forget Jeff Foster (Pacers) from Madison and ben uzoh (nets) from Warren.

Dennis Fembo (Pistons) from Fox Tech.

jjktkk
02-20-2012, 04:45 PM
Why does the FO like undersized bigs so much? Get some real bigs with size.

:deadhorse

yavozerb
02-20-2012, 05:13 PM
Size by itself doesn't make a good player. It helps sure, but it really shouldn't be the standard to measure a players worth right off of the shelf.

Notable undersized bigs past and present are:

Chuck Hayes
Paul Millsap
Clarence Weatherspoon
Leonard Robinson
Larry Johnson
Ben Wallace
Dennis Rodman
Wes Unseld
Charles Barkley
Elgin Baylor

Just because he isn't tall, doesn't mean he can't be good. Let his skills do the talking, not his measurements.

This idea about having to be 6'10 or taller at PF or C position to be good should have ended after Zach Randolph killed the spurs last season..

Solid D
02-20-2012, 05:17 PM
Yeah, Fennis Dembo was a prolific scorer. You cannot forget Keith Edmondson! Keith went to MacArthur HS, starred at Purdue, then was a top-10 draft pick @ Atlanta. Keith ended up playing one season in San Antonio for the Spurs in a fairly limited NBA career.

ace3g
02-20-2012, 05:18 PM
not sure if mentioned yet, but he will be with the team tonight:

Monroe_SA Spurs
10-day signee Eric Dawson joined team in SLC for tonight's game vs. Jazz. Former SA prep star will wear 23

jjktkk
02-20-2012, 05:21 PM
Yeah, Fennis Dembo was a prolific scorer. You cannot forget Keith Edmondson! Keith went to MacArthur HS, starred at Purdue, then was a top-10 draft pick @ Atlanta. Keith ended up playing one season in San Antonio for the Spurs in a fairly limited NBA career.

Another blast from the past. :toast I remember Dembo getting on the cover of SI, while at Wyoming. A pretty big deal back in the day for a local kid.

Solid D
02-20-2012, 05:25 PM
Another blast from the past. :toast I remember Fembo getting on the cover of SI, while at Wyoming. A pretty big deal back in the day for a local kid.

Fennis Dembo, actually. :)

jjktkk
02-20-2012, 05:31 PM
Fennis Dembo, actually. :)

I blame the cat for walking on the keyboard. :hat

Solid D
02-20-2012, 05:39 PM
I blame the cat for walking on the keyboard. :hat

:lol

blkroadrunners
02-20-2012, 05:46 PM
Dont forget Jeff Foster (Pacers) from Madison and ben uzoh (nets) from Warren.


lol smh

we have a lot of talent in San Antonio. Dawson from Sam Houston and Ivan Johnson(atlanta hawks) from Fox Tech. :hat


And Shaq.

Outlaw and Najera (JJay) as well

TD 21
02-20-2012, 06:02 PM
He'll only get garbage minutes or if another big gets injured and that's it. Based on the Spurs' upcoming schedule it looks like he won't get any PT at all.

Pop will stick to small ball with RJ/Kawhi playing PF.

I don't think we'll see him or small ball tonight, so long as both Duncan and Blair aren't in foul trouble and the game doesn't become a blowout.

The Jazz have too physical and rugged a front line to play small against. The only possibility I see is Leonard on Favors, because he won't necessarily hurt them in the post.

Against the Trail Blazers and Nuggets, I expect to see plenty of small ball. The Trail Blazers play plenty of it to begin with and the Nuggets often go to it against the Spurs.

ChumpDumper
02-20-2012, 06:05 PM
I don't think we'll see him or small ball tonight, so long as both Duncan and Blair aren't in foul trouble and the game doesn't become a blowout.

The Jazz have too physical and rugged a front line to play small against.Physical and rugged is Dawson's bailiwick.

TD 21
02-20-2012, 06:09 PM
Physical and rugged is Dawson's bailiwick.

So I've heard. I just don't get the sense Pop will play him though, unless one of the two situations arises that I mentioned.

I get the sense that Pop will treat this as the game to go all out for. They're coming off a day and a half off and the Jazz had to travel overnight. The Trail Blazers and Nuggets games could be much tougher, given that they're both quality -- if overrated -- teams that have been struggling mightily lately and are due for an extended stretch of quality play.

ChumpDumper
02-20-2012, 06:11 PM
So I've heard. I just don't get the sense Pop will play him though, unless one of the two situations arises that I mentioned.

I get the sense that Pop will treat this as the game to go all out for. They're coming off a day and a half off and the Jazz had to travel overnight. The Trail Blazers and Nuggets games could be much tougher, given that they're both quality -- if overrated -- teams that have been struggling mightily lately and are due for an extended stretch of quality play.We'll see. We haven't been down a big man due to injury for an extended time. It's certainly Dawson could draw quick fouls or simply not be effective if Pop does try him.

therealtruth
02-20-2012, 06:21 PM
Size by itself doesn't make a good player. It helps sure, but it really shouldn't be the standard to measure a players worth right off of the shelf.

Notable undersized bigs past and present are:

Chuck Hayes
Paul Millsap
Clarence Weatherspoon
Leonard Robinson
Larry Johnson
Ben Wallace
Dennis Rodman
Wes Unseld
Charles Barkley
Elgin Baylor

Just because he isn't tall, doesn't mean he can't be good. Let his skills do the talking, not his measurements.

For a team that already has two undersized bigs (Bonner's got t-rex arms and plays small) it would probably make sense to get a big with some size.

pgardn
02-20-2012, 06:45 PM
Yeah, Fennis Dembo was a prolific scorer. You cannot forget Keith Edmondson! Keith went to MacArthur HS, starred at Purdue, then was a top-10 draft pick @ Atlanta. Keith ended up playing one season in San Antonio for the Spurs in a fairly limited NBA career.

I completely forgot about this kid. Also remember Ski Jones at Marshall was really smooth with the ball and had a wonderful jumper. I think he played at Kansas St. and had a short stent in the NBA.

jjktkk
02-20-2012, 07:09 PM
For a team that already has two undersized bigs (Bonner's got t-rex arms and plays small) it would probably make sense to get a big with some size.

Unless that "big with some size" can't play. Might look impressive in warmups, but thats about it tbh.

Hooks
02-20-2012, 11:32 PM
Utah will ram smallball down Pop's throat with Al J, Milsap, Favors, Kanter.

The kid will play. No more than 20 minutes, no less than 10. There is no possible way we can cover 96 big man position game minutes with Tim, Bonner, and Blair, especially with a B2B coming up.


0 mins. today, it looks like his only chance of getting PT is in the B2B or if the Spurs get blown out.

You forgot that RJ and Kawhi are PF's in Pop's eyes. RJ played a lot of PF in his first year with the Spurs, Kawhi played PF in the Clips game and did a decent job.

TD 21
02-20-2012, 11:42 PM
Unless that "big with some size" can't play. Might look impressive in warmups, but thats about it tbh.

Whether they can play or not is almost besides the point right now. They flat out need another big who can protect the rim and break up the Blair-Bonner pairing. Benson and N'diaye fit the bill. I don't care how uninspiring their play has been in the D-League. At least they'd provide some type of presence/resistance at the rim. Dawson makes no sense whatsoever.

GSH
02-20-2012, 11:46 PM
Pop better figure out if he's going to give another big a chance pretty quick. We got out-rebounded 41-33, which is bad. But we got outscored in the paint 56-30. You can't keep winning games like that. We shot a higher percentage from 3P than from 2P. I wouldn't bank on that happening. Why call him up if there's no chance of playing him? They need some help in the middle like right now.

TD 21
02-20-2012, 11:56 PM
Pop better figure out if he's going to give another big a chance pretty quick. We got out-rebounded 41-33, which is bad. But we got outscored in the paint 56-30. You can't keep winning games like that. We shot a higher percentage from 3P than from 2P. I wouldn't bank on that happening. Why call him up if there's no chance of playing him? They need some help in the middle like right now.

Because they're ignorant. Only their ignorance never comes back to haunt them (in the regular season, at least) because the big three are so good that they find a way to keep this team amongst the elite annually.

Instead of giving a guy a chance who has the physical tools they're lacking (even if, on merit, he's undeserving), like Benson, they do the opposite. Dawson has no future here. A guy like Benson, obviously it would be an extreme long shot, but at least there's an outside chance he could stick. That's not even relevant at the moment though. They just need someone to protect the rim while Duncan rests for the time being. It's that simple.

They'll soon be on a losing streak, because as you alluded to, the way they won tonight is not the recipe for a sustainable winning formula. I don't like the setup for tomorrow. Duncan and Bonner play major minutes against a physical, rugged front line. An already struggling Trail Blazers team is in the midst of a putrid performance. The Spurs and Bonner in particular, are due for a game where they struggle mightily from three. This has all the makings of a blowout.

jjktkk
02-21-2012, 12:11 AM
Whether they can play or not is almost besides the point right now. They flat out need another big who can protect the rim and break up the Blair-Bonner pairing. Benson and N'diaye fit the bill. I don't care how uninspiring their play has been in the D-League. At least they'd provide some type of presence/resistance at the rim. Dawson makes no sense whatsoever.

Disagree. Dawson at least knows the system. Noone out there is gonna wow you anyway, hence the reason their out there. I know you have a factuation with any 7 footer, as long as hes breathing, but you might want to stop and think about why Benson and N'diaye are not even candidates considered potential callups, yet an undersize big like Dawson is.

jjktkk
02-21-2012, 12:15 AM
Because they're ignorant. Only their ignorance never comes back to haunt them (in the regular season, at least) because the big three are so good that they find a way to keep this team amongst the elite annually.

Instead of giving a guy a chance who has the physical tools they're lacking (even if, on merit, he's undeserving), like Benson, they do the opposite. Dawson has no future here. A guy like Benson, obviously it would be an extreme long shot, but at least there's an outside chance he could stick. That's not even relevant at the moment though. They just need someone to protect the rim while Duncan rests for the time being. It's that simple.

They'll soon be on a losing streak, because as you alluded to, the way they won tonight is not the recipe for a sustainable winning formula. I don't like the setup for tomorrow. Duncan and Bonner play major minutes against a physical, rugged front line. An already struggling Trail Blazers team is in the midst of a putrid performance. The Spurs and Bonner in particular, are due for a game where they struggle mightily from three. This has all the makings of a blowout.

You never even stopped and considered why Atlanta gave up on Benson so soon did yea? You just look at his hieight and think "wow, hes tall and looks like a bsketball player, sign em up!"

TD 21
02-21-2012, 12:23 AM
Disagree. Dawson at least knows the system. Noone out there is gonna wow you anyway, hence the reason their out there. I know you have a factuation with any 7 footer, as long as hes breathing, but you might want to stop and think about why Benson and N'diaye are not even candidates considered potential callups, yet an undersize big like Dawson is.

As usual, you're missing the point. This team is so desperate for length, athleticism and rim protection at the moment, that it doesn't matter whether a big knows the system or can play or not. It's flat out about having someone who can do that for 10 or so minutes and at least allow them to severely limit the amount of time Blair and Bonner play together, while giving them some type of a presence and deterrent at the rim. I'd much rather watch Benson attempt to guard a guy like Aldridge than watch Blair fail miserably. At least there's a chance Benson's length bothers his shot some.

And as if Dawson can play, either. This is a token call up, as timvp alluded to.

jjktkk
02-21-2012, 01:03 AM
As usual, you're missing the point. This team is so desperate for length, athleticism and rim protection at the moment, that it doesn't matter whether a big knows the system or can play or not. It's flat out about having someone who can do that for 10 or so minutes and at least allow them to severely limit the amount of time Blair and Bonner play together, while giving them some type of a presence and deterrent at the rim. I'd much rather watch Benson attempt to guard a guy like Aldridge than watch Blair fail miserably. At least there's a chance Benson's length bothers his shot some.

And as if Dawson can play, either. This is a token call up, as timvp alluded to.

As are alot of teams, yet Benson still sits around, waiting for a phone call from a NBA team.

ChumpDumper
02-21-2012, 01:55 AM
Whether they can play or not is almost besides the point right now. They flat out need another big who can protect the rim and break up the Blair-Bonner pairing. Benson and N'diaye fit the bill. I don't care how uninspiring their play has been in the D-League. At least they'd provide some type of presence/resistance at the rim. Dawson makes no sense whatsoever.Benson makes much less sense than Dawson at this point. N'Diaye wasn't as great as your scouting report either.

ChumpDumper
02-21-2012, 02:02 AM
Seriously, TD 21 -- how many times have you seen Dawson, Benson and N'Diaye play this season?

Combined?

Zero?

jjktkk
02-21-2012, 02:37 AM
Seriously, TD 21 -- how many times have you seen Dawson, Benson and N'Diaye play this season?

Combined?

Zero?

But, but, their 7 feet. Surely they can play.

SenorSpur
02-21-2012, 02:51 AM
Pop better figure out if he's going to give another big a chance pretty quick. We got out-rebounded 41-33, which is bad. But we got outscored in the paint 56-30. You can't keep winning games like that. We shot a higher percentage from 3P than from 2P. I wouldn't bank on that happening. Why call him up if there's no chance of playing him? They need some help in the middle like right now.

The Spurs are really rolling and have quite a bit of momentum. However, I think this winning streak is masking their true need for another big along the frontline. Size that will surely be important come playoff time.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they're winning, but I also don't like for how this shapes up down the road. They most certainly need additional help in the middle - and Pop would be a fool to continue ignoring it or believing that his team can survive in the playoffs without such an addition. After all, the regular season is one thing - the playoffs are all together a different animal.

therealtruth
02-21-2012, 02:59 AM
The Spurs are really rolling and have quite a bit of momentum. However, I think this winning streak is masking their true need for another big along the frontline. Size that will surely be important come playoff time.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they're winning, but I also don't like for how this shapes up down the road. They most certainly need additional help in the middle - and Pop would be a fool to continue ignoring it or believing that his team can survive in the playoffs without such an addition. After all, the regular season is one thing - the playoffs are all together a different animal.

Yeah the front office has to make a move. They made a move in '05 and it paid off. I think they lucked out in '07.

ChumpDumper
02-21-2012, 03:02 AM
But, but, their 7 feet. Surely they can play.I haven't seen Benson in person, but N'Diaye was probably waived in part because he was owned by the Toros' smaller-than-Dawson bigs about a month ago.

As for Benson, he has played about half the games Dawson has this season, but Dawson's rebounding and blocking rates are substantially higher than Benson's.

I simply don't know what the basis for your opinion is, TD 21. Please explain.

Obstructed_View
02-21-2012, 05:54 AM
I'm glad they're looking. Last year makes it pretty certain that the Spurs don't point to their record as evidence that there's no area of need on the front line.

benefactor
02-21-2012, 06:33 AM
This team is so desperate for length, athleticism and rim protection at the moment, that it doesn't matter whether a big knows the system or can play or not.
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GSH
02-21-2012, 10:20 AM
The Spurs are really rolling and have quite a bit of momentum. However, I think this winning streak is masking their true need for another big along the frontline. Size that will surely be important come playoff time.

Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they're winning, but I also don't like for how this shapes up down the road. They most certainly need additional help in the middle - and Pop would be a fool to continue ignoring it or believing that his team can survive in the playoffs without such an addition. After all, the regular season is one thing - the playoffs are all together a different animal.


Yep. I remember last season. And, yeah, I was one of the boneheads who threw common sense out the window and believed that the Spurs could keep winning in the post-season playing small. If anybody had doubts, watching the way Utah went after us in the paint last night should have put them to rest. The playoffs are brutal, and it's no coincidence that the playoff teams are strong in the middle.

If we had last year's Antonio McDyess, and this year's Tiago Splitter, I'd feel pretty good. We just called up a big man who knows the system through his Toros experience. PUT HIM ON THE FLOOR!!! One W/L, more or less, at this point in the season isn't going to change things that much. Let him surprise you, or let him prove he doesn't belong here.

ace3g
02-21-2012, 10:24 AM
A Spur’s path: From a crash to his dream


Ten years ago almost to the day, Eric Dawson saw his world turn upside down.

Literally. He was flipped during a game and landed face first. He was out cold, and his high school coach remembers one vivid detail.

A tooth jammed through a lip.

“I knew there was some damage,” Wayne Dickey joked Monday. “Because he kept talking about what a good coach I was.”

Sam Houston hung on to beat Kerrville Tivy without Dawson, advancing in the playoffs for a game the next day against Roosevelt. Dickey left it up to Dawson and Dawson’s mother whether he should play.

What followed is a reason Dickey says Dawson is among the top three players he had in more than 30 years of coaching.

And why Dawson finally reached his dream Monday night.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/02/21/a-spur%E2%80%99s-path-from-a-crash-to-his-dream/

SenorSpur
02-21-2012, 10:27 AM
Yep. I remember last season. And, yeah, I was one of the boneheads who threw common sense out the window and believed that the Spurs could keep winning in the post-season playing small. If anybody had doubts, watching the way Utah went after us in the paint last night should have put them to rest. The playoffs are brutal, and it's no coincidence that the playoff teams are strong in the middle.

If we had last year's Antonio McDyess, and this year's Tiago Splitter, I'd feel pretty good. We just called up a big man who knows the system through his Toros experience. PUT HIM ON THE FLOOR!!! One W/L, more or less, at this point in the season isn't going to change things that much. Let him surprise you, or let him prove he doesn't belong here.

At one point in the 3rd quarter, the Jazz had scored something like 50 of their 84 points in the paint.

Yes. The only way to find out whether this kid can play is to put him on the floor. He shouldn't just be sitting idle, keeping the bench seat warm until Tiago comes back.

DrSteffo
02-21-2012, 11:29 AM
I would prefer to see some PT for Dawson to avoid the Bonner/Blair combo and to see what he can do.

xellos88330
02-21-2012, 01:45 PM
Here's to hoping the man gets a chance tonight! :toast

xellos88330
02-21-2012, 01:48 PM
For a team that already has two undersized bigs (Bonner's got t-rex arms and plays small) it would probably make sense to get a big with some size.

I am not saying you are wrong. I think you are 100% correct. The problem I am having is writing him off just because he isn't 6'10"-7'. I am just wanting people to reserve judgement till after he plays. :toast

ata
02-21-2012, 03:35 PM
Just for info:

Eric Dawson already signed contract with Union Olipija, Ljubljana, Slovenija; however never came in Ljubljana. Olimpija also got his Letter of Clearence. After Olimpija got payed all cost, they decided not to sue and issued LOC

http://kosarka.si/uol-dawson-povrnil-stroske-pravnih-sporov-ni-bilo/

ChumpDumper
02-21-2012, 03:40 PM
Just for info:

Eric Dawson already signed contract with Union Olipija, Ljubljana, Slovenija; however never came in Ljubljana. Olimpija also got his Letter of Clearence. After Olimpija got payed all cost, they decided not to sue and issued LOC

http://kosarka.si/uol-dawson-povrnil-stroske-pravnih-sporov-ni-bilo/What were they in for? The D-League buyout and some paperwork?

timvp
02-21-2012, 03:42 PM
Just for info:

Eric Dawson already signed contract with Union Olipija, Ljubljana, Slovenija; however never came in Ljubljana. Olimpija also got his Letter of Clearence. After Olimpija got payed all cost, they decided not to sue and issued LOC

http://kosarka.si/uol-dawson-povrnil-stroske-pravnih-sporov-ni-bilo/

That Slovenian team could have made things a lot messier. By being cool about it, they basically made it possible for Dawson to be in the position he's in now. :tu

TD 21
02-21-2012, 03:52 PM
As are alot of teams, yet Benson still sits around, waiting for a phone call from a NBA team.

Not one team needs it as bad as this one right now.

It makes sense to give guys an opportunity who have the tools you're lacking. Who the hell was Neal? Nobody. But they needed shooting and needed it for cheap, so they gave him a try. The rest is history. Green was a more known commodity, but not a major prospect by any stretch. They needed wing depth and someone who could potentially be an above average defender, so they gave him a try. The rest is history. Who's to say Benson wouldn't follow suit? Like I said, it's an extreme long shot, but it's still worth it to give him a look.

ChumpDumper, I've already explained the basis for my opinion and have said I flat out don't care if they can play. I seriously doubt Dawson can either, but even if he is in another league from them, who cares? They need someone to guard the basket and both of them have a better chance at doing it than he does. It's that simple.

ChumpDumper
02-21-2012, 03:58 PM
ChumpDumper, I've already explained the basis for my opinion and have said I flat out don't care if they can play. I seriously doubt Dawson can either, but even if he is in another league from them, who cares? They need someone to guard the basket and both of them have a better chance at doing it than he does. It's that simple.Based upon what?

Not actual performance this season. True centers should really dominate in the D-League this season. I you only have a height fetish, call up the 7'5" Will Foster. Too bad he barely plays for his D-League team.

Being able to play is really the first thing to look for in an NBA player tbh.

ata
02-21-2012, 03:59 PM
What were they in for? The D-League buyout and some paperwork?

As far as I understand: Dawson signed with Olimpija before he signed with Spurs. Since Olimpija already had all his papers (contract + LOC), Dawson was their player.
It looks like that immediately after signing for Olimpija he got offer from Spurs...

therealtruth
02-21-2012, 04:05 PM
Yep. I remember last season. And, yeah, I was one of the boneheads who threw common sense out the window and believed that the Spurs could keep winning in the post-season playing small. If anybody had doubts, watching the way Utah went after us in the paint last night should have put them to rest. The playoffs are brutal, and it's no coincidence that the playoff teams are strong in the middle.

If we had last year's Antonio McDyess, and this year's Tiago Splitter, I'd feel pretty good. We just called up a big man who knows the system through his Toros experience. PUT HIM ON THE FLOOR!!! One W/L, more or less, at this point in the season isn't going to change things that much. Let him surprise you, or let him prove he doesn't belong here.

This team's weakness in the middle destroys any advantage on the perimeter like having one of the best backcourts in TP/Manu. In the playoffs you really need defenders that can defend the post without help otherwise teams will pick you apart.

TD 21
02-21-2012, 04:10 PM
Based upon what?

Not actual performance this season. True centers should really dominate in the D-League this season. I you only have a height fetish, call up the 7'5" Will Foster. Too bad he barely plays for his D-League team.

Being able to play is really the first thing to look for in an NBA player tbh.

Based upon their physical tools. You need to regularly watch players to know the subtleties of their game. You don't need to watch them to know the basics of their game.

For example, before I saw Neal play a game, I already knew he was an undersized knockdown shooter, who couldn't run an offense and would struggle to physically guard his position. What I found out from watching him was that he was good off the dribble and had a deadly floater.

In most cases, yes, being able to play is obviously the first thing to look for. But in this case, they merely need a placeholder. Someone who at least has a shot at doing a reasonable Splitter impersonation defensively.

ChumpDumper
02-21-2012, 04:18 PM
As far as I understand: Dawson signed with Olimpija before he signied with Spurs. Since Olimpija already had all his papers (contract + LOC), Dawson was their player.
It looks like that immediately after signing for Olimpija he got offer from Spurs...I don't think it worked that way. He was working under a D-League contract until January 19, when I assume that deal was bought out by Olimpija and he signed the deal.

There was talk less than a week after that the deal was going south and he might be back. He was back under a D-League contract February 10, and I didn't hear of any complaints from Olimpija at that time.

Unless there was something like a personal problem, there was no reason for Dawson to pass up a nice payday overseas. He had done it pretty much every previous year he played for the Toros. There's a tiny possibility he had some kind of call-up promise from the Spurs, but that seems unlikely. Given Olimpijas financial troubles this season, it doesn't make sense for them just to let Dawson go anywhere else without getting something in return. Seems more likely that some part of the contract wasn't met early on, Dawson just never showed up and there was nothing they could do about it.

ChumpDumper
02-21-2012, 04:21 PM
Based upon their physical tools. You need to regularly watch players to know the subtleties of their game. You don't need to watch them to know the basics of their game.

For example, before I saw Neal play a game, I already knew he was an undersized knockdown shooter, who couldn't run an offense and would struggle to physically guard his position. What I found out from watching him was that he was good off the dribble and had a deadly floater.

In most cases, yes, being able to play is obviously the first thing to look for. But in this case, they merely need a placeholder. Someone who at least has a shot at doing a reasonable Splitter impersonation defensively.So you just go by measurements and other people's scouting reports.

Nathan Explosion
02-21-2012, 04:23 PM
What the Spurs need is a shot blocker. The Spurs can score some points, that's a given. If the guy can score in the post, it's a bonus. But they need someone who can alter shots at the rim and clog the paint. While Dawson may be a place holder, if any big man that the Spurs bring can grab some rebounds, block some shots, and keep the guards out of the lane, he will be more than just a token call up.

It's preferable that the guy be 6'10" and up. But if Dawson can be the next Ben Wallace, then it won't matter. BIG "if" though.

TD 21
02-21-2012, 04:25 PM
So you just go by measurements and other people's scouting reports.

Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

So since size is completely irrelevant and unnecessary, why even bother signing another big? Why not just play Blair and Bonner at center and Jefferson and Leonard at power forward? Surely, they're all better than any scrub in the D-League.

MaNu4Tres
02-21-2012, 04:26 PM
As many alluded too in previous threads, Dawson is just a bench filler til Splitter comes back. Only way Dawson plays is if there's another injury in the front-court or if a big gets in deep foul trouble.

I don't understand how many expect him to play, the guy has been a D-Leaguer his whole "pro" career.

jjktkk
02-21-2012, 04:35 PM
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

So since size is completely irrelevant and unnecessary, why even bother signing another big? Why not just play Blair and Bonner at center and Jefferson and Leonard at power forward? Surely, they're all better than any scrub in the D-League.

Based on your take, size is the only prerequisite to play in the NBA. You don't even bother looking at a player's body of work, just as long as hes 7 foot, hes legit. Watch out, your getting into tjastal territory now. :lol

jjktkk
02-21-2012, 04:38 PM
As many alluded too in previous threads, Dawson is just a bench filler til Splitter comes back. Only way Dawson plays is if there's another injury in the front-court or if a big gets in deep foul trouble.

I don't understand how many expect him to play.

I'm guessing that some, myself included, expect Dawson to at least get some garbage minutes, possibly even a few spot minutes, considering the Spurs only have 3 bigs right now.

TD 21
02-21-2012, 04:46 PM
Based on your take, size is the only prerequisite to play in the NBA. You don't even bother looking at a player's body of work, just as long as hes 7 foot, hes legit. Watch out, your getting into tjastal territory now. :lol

Once again you prove that you don't have an ounce of reading comprehension. It's the only prerequisite given their current situation. When Splitter returns, it's not as necessary. But right now, they flat out need another big who's a presence at the rim, whether they can play or not. I don't know why that's so difficult to understand.

But you can bet that if the front office was using their brains and went this route, you two idiots would think it was a great move. The next time one of you has an original opinion will be the first.

jjktkk
02-21-2012, 04:57 PM
Once again you prove that you don't have an ounce of reading comprehension. It's the only prerequisite given their current situation. When Splitter returns, it's not as necessary. But right now, they flat out need another big who's a presence at the rim, whether they can play or not. I don't know why that's so difficult to understand.

But you can bet that if the front office was using their brains and went this route, you two idiots would think it was a great move. The next time one of you has an original opinion will be the first.


Whether they can play or not is almost besides the point right now

Once again, you get called out on a shitty take, and, per the usual, try to backtrack with your lame, " you don't have an ounce of reading comprehension" schtick. BTW, my neighbor's son is 6'11", and played college ball. He hasn't played in a few years, but since hes 6'11". should he give RC a call? :lol

TD 21
02-21-2012, 05:01 PM
Once again, you get called out on a shitty take, and, per the usual, try to backtrack with your lame, " you don't have an ounce of reading comprehension" schtick. BTW, my neighbor's son is 6'11", and played college ball. He hasn't played in a few years, but since hes 6'11". should he give RC a call? :lol

No, once again I get "called out" by the two pathetic, shameless front office apologists. At least in the case of one, it's merely a schtick. In the case of the other, he's too stupid to even know what that means.

The take was a sound one and one that I'm sure the vast majority agree with. I didn't "backtrack" at all. I said "right now", as in while Splitter is out. Once he's back, then it makes sense to sign the best big available. Right now, it should be more about filling a specific need than anything.

jjktkk
02-21-2012, 05:08 PM
No, once again I get "called out" by the two pathetic, shameless front office apologists. At least in the case of one, it's merely a schtick. In the case of the other, he's too stupid to even know what that means.

The take was a sound one and one that I'm sure the vast majority agree with. I didn't "backtrack" at all. I said "right now", as in while Splitter is out. Once he's back, then it makes sense to sign the best big available. Right now, it should be more about filling a specific need than anything.

Poll, or I call BS. :lol

therealtruth
02-21-2012, 06:44 PM
Based upon their physical tools. You need to regularly watch players to know the subtleties of their game. You don't need to watch them to know the basics of their game.

For example, before I saw Neal play a game, I already knew he was an undersized knockdown shooter, who couldn't run an offense and would struggle to physically guard his position. What I found out from watching him was that he was good off the dribble and had a deadly floater.

In most cases, yes, being able to play is obviously the first thing to look for. But in this case, they merely need a placeholder. Someone who at least has a shot at doing a reasonable Splitter impersonation defensively.

I agree. This team has enough offensive minded frontcourt players and not enough people to the dirty work like boxing out, rebounding, and playing tough single coverage post defense. How does that relate to height? Undersized forwards tend to be more concerned about scoring and not concerned enough about defense and rebounding. I am not talking about Dawson specifically but about what the FO should be looking for in a big.

therealtruth
02-21-2012, 06:49 PM
What the Spurs need is a shot blocker. The Spurs can score some points, that's a given. If the guy can score in the post, it's a bonus. But they need someone who can alter shots at the rim and clog the paint. While Dawson may be a place holder, if any big man that the Spurs bring can grab some rebounds, block some shots, and keep the guards out of the lane, he will be more than just a token call up.

It's preferable that the guy be 6'10" and up. But if Dawson can be the next Ben Wallace, then it won't matter. BIG "if" though.

I agree about what they should be looking for in a big. Ideally that big would be able to play well with Bonner. That would then allow Splitter to start.

Mel_13
02-21-2012, 06:57 PM
Eric Dawson To The Spurs Helps Define Definition Of NBA Development League

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2012/2/21/2813002/eric-dawson-spurs-nba-development

BackHome
02-21-2012, 08:35 PM
After watching last night game I think we should have brought up one of our PG who would probably get playing time.

SpurNation
02-21-2012, 08:58 PM
Dawson is what he is...a D-league fodder who's got a chance to play in the nba.

It could pan out for him. It's a high possibility it won't.

ChumpDumper
02-21-2012, 10:40 PM
Once again you prove that you don't have an ounce of reading comprehension. It's the only prerequisite given their current situation. When Splitter returns, it's not as necessary. But right now, they flat out need another big who's a presence at the rim, whether they can play or not. I don't know why that's so difficult to understand.Why do you think Dawson isn't a presence at the rim compared to the other players?

You haven't seen any of these people play.

At all.

You're simply talking out of your ass.


But you can bet that if the front office was using their brains and went this route, you two idiots would think it was a great move. The next time one of you has an original opinion will be the first.lol meltdown. Never takes long, does it?

Look, it was a shitty take. You just want the tallest player available. That's Will Foster. Only he can't play so he won't play.

Placeholders who can't play won't play.

TD 21
02-22-2012, 05:30 PM
Why do you think Dawson isn't a presence at the rim compared to the other players?

You haven't seen any of these people play.

At all.

You're simply talking out of your ass.

lol meltdown. Never takes long, does it?

Look, it was a shitty take. You just want the tallest player available. That's Will Foster. Only he can't play so he won't play.

Placeholders who can't play won't play.

Because he's undersized and not very athletic. I know he's averaging 1.5 or 6 bpg in the D-League, but unless he's the second coming of Al Jefferson, I seriously doubt he'd be much of a presence at this level given his underwhelming physical tools.

I didn't say that. Guess you've got to fill your quota of things made up.

No, you're talking out of your ass, as usual.

It was an excellent take and your only issue with it is that it came from me and not your lords and saviors, the Spurs front office. I also never said "I just want the tallest player available". I said they need legit NBA caliber length and athleticism inside. It doesn't have to be some 7-5 behemoth, but it can't be some 6-9 guy with underwhelming physical tools.

therealtruth
02-22-2012, 05:42 PM
Because he's undersized and not very athletic. I know he's averaging 1.5 or 6 bpg in the D-League, but unless he's the second coming of Al Jefferson, I seriously doubt he'd be much of a presence at this level given his underwhelming physical tools.

I didn't say that. Guess you've got to fill your quota of things made up.

No, you're talking out of your ass, as usual.

It was an excellent take and your only issue with it is that it came from me and not your lords and saviors, the Spurs front office. I also never said "I just want the tallest player available". I said they need legit NBA caliber length and athleticism inside. It doesn't have to be some 7-5 behemoth, but it can't be some 6-9 guy with underwhelming physical tools.

I agree if you're in the D-League and you're inflated stats look like NBA stats you're probably not NBA level.

ChumpDumper
02-22-2012, 05:58 PM
Because he's undersized and not very athletic. I know he's averaging 1.5 or 6 bpg in the D-League, but unless he's the second coming of Al Jefferson, I seriously doubt he'd be much of a presence at this level given his underwhelming physical tools.

I didn't say that. Guess you've got to fill your quota of things made up.

No, you're talking out of your ass, as usual.

It was an excellent take and your only issue with it is that it came from me and not your lords and saviors, the Spurs front office. I also never said "I just want the tallest player available". I said they need legit NBA caliber length and athleticism inside. It doesn't have to be some 7-5 behemoth, but it can't be some 6-9 guy with underwhelming physical tools.So you would have passed on Chuck Hayes.

You're stupid.


I agree if you're in the D-League and you're inflated stats look like NBA stats you're probably not NBA level.The D-League stats of the players he was pimping were worse.

TD 21
02-22-2012, 06:06 PM
So you would have passed on Chuck Hayes.

You're stupid.

The D-League stats of the players he was pimping were worse.

I guess you haven't filled your quota of things made up for the day yet.

It's shouldn't be about stats, familiarity or who the best player is right now. Because of the situation they've put themselves in, it should be about filling a specific need. Then when Splitter returns, it can be about those things.

I know you're going to say "what does it matter if they don't play any meaningful minutes". But my plan was to actually play Benson a few minutes, so as to break up the amount Blair and Bonner play together. That's just not an acceptable pairing, not even if you have to resort to playing some D-League scrub to break them up.

ChumpDumper
02-22-2012, 06:08 PM
I guess you haven't filled your quota of things made up for the day yet.

It's shouldn't be about stats, familiarity or who the best player is right now. Because of the situation they've put themselves in, it should be about filling a specific need. Then when Splitter returns, it can be about those things.

I know you're going to say "what does it matter if they don't play any meaningful minutes", but my plan would have been to actually play Benson a few minutes, so as to break up the amount Blair and Bonner play together. That's just not an acceptable pairing, not even if you have to resort to playing some D-League scrub to break them up.You would have passed on Chuck Hayes just from seeing his listed height.

This is all that needs to be known about your basketball plan.

jjktkk
02-22-2012, 06:14 PM
I guess you haven't filled your quota of things made up for the day yet.

It's shouldn't be about stats, familiarity or who the best player is right now. Because of the situation they've put themselves in, it should be about filling a specific need. Then when Splitter returns, it can be about those things.

I know you're going to say "what does it matter if they don't play any meaningful minutes". But my plan was to actually play Benson a few minutes, so as to break up the amount Blair and Bonner play together. That's just not an acceptable pairing, not even if you have to resort to playing some D-League scrub to break them up.

TD 21's answer to the Spur's lack of big men is very simple: Any 7 footer will do. :lol

TD 21
02-22-2012, 06:14 PM
I'm a bitter old man, with no original opinions or reading comprehension, who's desperate to sound hip, clever and intelligent to a bunch of people I don't know on a message board.

ChumpDumper
02-22-2012, 06:16 PM
Look, TD 21. No need to go all ad hominem because your stupid plan would have passed on Chuck Hayes in favor of Will Foster.

It was a stupid idea.

TD 21
02-22-2012, 06:20 PM
Look, TD 21. No need to go all ad hominem because your stupid plan would have passed on Chuck Hayes in favor of Will Foster.

It was a stupid idea.

:rollin lol meltdown. :rollin

ChumpDumper
02-22-2012, 06:22 PM
:rollin lol meltdown. :rollinYes, you had a meltdown in your previous post.

You ran out of defenses for your plan so decided to attack me personally.

Happens all the time.

TD 21
02-22-2012, 06:27 PM
And I forgot to add, I'm extremely immature, have an unhealthy, disturbing obsession with the D-League and consider the Spurs front office to be my lords and saviors.

ChumpDumper
02-22-2012, 06:29 PM
Another meltdown.

Might as well wave a white flag, TD 21.

Cant_Be_Faded
02-22-2012, 06:44 PM
You can't win in a chump dumping contest with chumpdumper. the only chink in his armor is the 9/11 commission report.

ChumpDumper
02-22-2012, 06:44 PM
You can't win in a chump dumping contest with chumpdumper. the only chink in his armor is the 9/11 commission report.You never read it.

ace3g
02-23-2012, 01:08 AM
Dawson’s debut ranks with the best of those of local NBA products


He became only the third San Antonio-area high school player to see action for the Spurs, joining West Campus’ Devin Brown (132 games, 2002-05) and MacArthur’s Keith Edmonson (40 games, 1983-84).

Dawson became the 13th player from a San Antonio-area high school to log time in the NBA, according to Basketball-reference.com.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/02/22/dawsons-debut-ranks-with-the-best-of-san-antonio-area-nba-products/

therealtruth
02-23-2012, 01:44 AM
Couldn't the Spurs have gone after Gustavo Ayon? The FO has been asleep as far as finding bigs that can help. I give them credit for Kawhi. Why they can't do the same for bigmen?

Hoops Czar
02-23-2012, 01:54 AM
Dawson’s debut ranks with the best of those of local NBA products



http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/02/22/dawsons-debut-ranks-with-the-best-of-san-antonio-area-nba-products/


And in eight days, he'll be unemloyed.

jjktkk
02-23-2012, 01:55 AM
Couldn't the Spurs have gone after Gustavo Ayon? The FO has been asleep as far as finding bigs that can help. I give them credit for Kawhi. Why they can't do the same for bigmen?

There not exactly growing on trees.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175665&highlight=Gustavo+Ayon

ChumpDumper
02-23-2012, 01:55 AM
And in eight days, he'll be unemloyed.No he won't.

EricD
02-23-2012, 04:48 PM
Well if it isn't the ST's Chris Broussard of the D-League.

Leave it to him to suffocate a thread about the irrelevant Toros.

ChumpDumper
02-23-2012, 05:08 PM
Well if it isn't the ST's Chris Broussard of the D-League.

Leave it to him to suffocate a thread about the irrelevant Toros.Well if it isn't the douche who follows me around.

Leave to him post a comment about me and nothing else.

ace3g
03-01-2012, 01:57 PM
Jeff McDonald ‏ @JMcDonald_SAEN

Spurs not expected to re-sign forward Eric Dawson, whose 10-day contract has expired.

jeebus
03-01-2012, 02:16 PM
And in eight days, he'll be unemloyed.


No he won't.

lol

ChumpDumper
03-01-2012, 02:21 PM
lolHe'll still have a job.

Just not with the Spurs.

lol you fell for it

Trill Clinton
03-01-2012, 03:06 PM
he's already back on the Toros roster.

Solid D
03-01-2012, 03:36 PM
This thread reminds that for every Jeremy Lin, there are 50,000 Eric Dawsons.

Bruno
03-01-2012, 04:01 PM
Jeff McDonald ‏ @JMcDonald_SAEN

Spurs not expected to re-sign forward Eric Dawson, whose 10-day contract has expired.

Thanks for posting.

It isn't surprising at all. Splitter is back and Spurs have a light schedule in the next 3 weeks.

I'm going to say it for the 1478th time but I don't care:
Spurs frontcourt is still awfully weak in both quantity and quality. I don't know if I should laugh at it or cry about it but, 10 months ago, Spurs were destroyed by Memphis bigmen. Compared to that series, Spurs haven't added a single bigman while they have lost Dice and Novak. Talk about fixing a glaring weakness...

cheguevara
03-01-2012, 04:04 PM
I been saying that ^ shit for months too buddy

I think everyone knows deep inside com playoff time we going to a gun fight with a water gun

DesignatedT
03-01-2012, 04:14 PM
^every single person on this forum has been saying that for months.

jermaine
03-01-2012, 05:14 PM
I been saying that ^ shit for months too buddy

I think everyone knows deep inside com playoff time we going to a gun fight with a water gun

Hey but we keep RJ! (Im throwing up in my mouth right now)

SenorSpur
03-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Thanks for posting.

It isn't surprising at all. Splitter is back and Spurs have a light schedule in the next 3 weeks.

I'm going to say it for the 1478th time but I don't care:
Spurs frontcourt is still awfully weak in both quantity and quality. I don't know if I should laugh at it or cry about it but, 10 months ago, Spurs were destroyed by Memphis bigmen. Compared to that series, Spurs haven't added a single bigman while they have lost Dice and Novak. Talk about fixing a glaring weakness...

That Memphis series, and the sheer domination by the Grizzlies over the Spurs in that series, still brings nightmares to my mind. Hopefully Pop and the FO are still seeing similar visions of Gasol and Randolph working them over last spring.

Despite the fact that Zach Randolph is down with an injury and even with the improved play and minutes for Splitter, the Spurs are no better off matching up with this team or any other team that has a dominant frontline.

Unless the Spurs are able to shore up this weakness, it highly doubtful that they will be able to go on a deep playoff run.

Trill Clinton
03-15-2012, 09:41 AM
just got another 10day

BG_Spurs_Fan
03-15-2012, 09:45 AM
Could it be an indication the Spurs are trading one of the bigs?

monkeypunk
03-15-2012, 10:10 AM
Likely just insurance against Blair's injury last night.

wildbill2u
03-15-2012, 10:19 AM
He got some minutes on his last 10 day and wasn't too bad. Showed more offense capability at this level than most expected.

Not the superstar bid addition that dreamers want, but I don't expect much out of trade deadline today.

TimmehC
03-15-2012, 10:19 AM
just got another 10day
source?

bklynspursfan
03-15-2012, 10:21 AM
Tim Callaham ‏ @TimC_PtR Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
hearing the Spurs have given Eric Dawson another 10 day contract, but not seeing it confirmed anywhere.

bklynspursfan
03-15-2012, 10:22 AM
Eric Salinas ‏ @EricDSal7 Reply Favorite · Open
@TimC_PtR You mean you read it from Spurstalk via Trill Clinton.LOL

:lol

DPG21920
03-15-2012, 10:24 AM
Gross.

bklynspursfan
03-15-2012, 10:27 AM
Gross.

Not the first word that came to my mind. Mine was Pathetic. :pctoss

Trill Clinton
03-15-2012, 10:33 AM
Eric Salinas ‏ @EricDSal7 Reply Favorite · Open
@TimC_PtR You mean you read it from Spurstalk via Trill Clinton.LOL

:lol

:lol smh

Bruno
03-15-2012, 10:33 AM
Thanks Trill Clinton for the news. :tu

This signing could be because of a trade, because of Blair "injury" or to have some frontcourt depth for the upcoming busy schedule.

Even if Spurs don't make any significant basketball related move, they might end up the day with only 11 players under contract by salary dumping JA and Ford. It's not legal so Spurs must sign another player before doing these move to en up the day with 12 players under contract.

loveforthegame
03-15-2012, 10:35 AM
Guess this is the best we can do.

Texas_Ranger
03-15-2012, 10:41 AM
well Dawson can help us with....... ok, he can't help us, but this is a great move to improve our team.

yavozerb
03-15-2012, 10:43 AM
Thanks Trill Clinton for the news. :tu

This signing could be because of a trade, because of Blair "injury" or to have some frontcourt depth for the upcoming busy schedule.

Even if Spurs don't make any significant basketball related move, they might end up the day with only 11 players under contract by salary dumping JA and Ford. It's not legal so Spurs must sign another player before doing these move to en up the day with 12 players under contract.

Didn't Blair injure himself during yesterdays game?

Spurs da champs
03-15-2012, 10:43 AM
Guess this is the best we can do.

No its not, but the Front Office blows so I'm not surprised.

Bruno
03-15-2012, 10:45 AM
Didn't Blair injure himself during yesterdays game?

Yep that's why I talked about it. I put quotes around it because he came back in the second half.

Kori Ellis
03-15-2012, 11:04 AM
source?

He's not going to tell you his source. But I'll vouch that it's legit (and yes, I just said the same thing to you on Twitter.)

ChumpDumper
03-15-2012, 11:04 AM
Dawson bruised his rib Sunday badly enough to limit him to five minutes, but was pretty dominant last night with 25 pts, 17 reb and 4 blk. Good to see he bounced back.

And yeah, there's really no one else in the D-League. Maybe Gadzuric, but he's been a super foul machine in his short time there.

timvp
03-15-2012, 11:37 AM
Thanks Trill Clinton for the news. :tu

This signing could be because of a trade, because of Blair "injury" or to have some frontcourt depth for the upcoming busy schedule.

The timing also corresponds with the buyout deadline. By giving Dawson a ten-day contract now, the Spurs will know at the end of the ten days whether or not they will be able to get a 5th big via free agency. If they strike out, then they can sign Dawson for the rest of the season.

So yeah, this move could be because of an upcoming trade, Blair insurance, overall depth insurance, protection from another team calling him up or a backup plan regarding the buyout deadline.

Steve-O-Matic
03-15-2012, 11:40 AM
So yeah, this move could be because of an upcoming trade, Blair insurance, overall depth insurance, protection from another team calling him up or a backup plan regarding the buyout deadline.

Or all of the above.

benefactor
03-15-2012, 11:41 AM
He's not going to tell you his source. But I'll vouch that it's legit (and yes, I just said the same thing to you on Twitter.)
Yup...Trill Clinton is the goods. He's been legit every time AFAICR.

TimmehC
03-15-2012, 12:40 PM
He's not going to tell you his source. But I'll vouch that it's legit (and yes, I just said the same thing to you on Twitter.)
Fair enough. Credit given.

Edit: I realize it looked like I was taking credit. Definitely my bad.

manufan10
03-16-2012, 10:23 AM
Austin Toros ‏ @austintoros
BREAKING: The San Antonio Spurs today announced that they have signed Eric Dawson from the Austin Toros to a 2nd 10-day contract. #AWESOME

manufan10
03-16-2012, 10:24 AM
Confirms what Trill posted.

timmike2
03-16-2012, 10:39 AM
bump.

2nd 10 day contract is up! :)

Bruno
03-16-2012, 10:49 AM
Waiting Friday to sign him allow the ten days contract to include the game against Philly on March 25th.

It's actually a great 10 days to evaluate Dawson, there are 6 games in 10 days including a b2b and a b2b2b and there is a 3 days break where Spurs will do some practices. However, I fear for him that he is just a placeholder and that Spurs have bigger fish(es) in sight.

Darkwaters
03-16-2012, 11:14 AM
Lets assume the Spurs pick up Diaw after his buyout. They'll only have 13 players under contract then (assuming Dawson's contract were simply allowed to expire).

Historically, the Spurs have gone out and signed a couple D-Leaguers to look at and take into training camp (ie, Da'Sean Butler). Who do we think the Spurs will sign this year? Is Dawson in that discussion considering his couple of call-ups? My guess would be "no".

Sense
03-16-2012, 12:35 PM
However, I fear for him that he is just a placeholder and that Spurs have bigger fish(es) in sight.

and that is great news for us.

TJastal
03-16-2012, 12:36 PM
I hope "fish(es)" wasn't a subtle pun

NickiRasgo
02-10-2013, 01:42 PM
Sorry for the bump. Just remembered him being a Spur and some of you wants the Spurs to sign Keith Benson.

I had a chance to shoot a PBA (Philippine Basketball Association) games this weekend and this conference (second) includes import. Meralco Bolts signed Eric Dawson as their import and Talk N' Text Tropang Texters signed Keith Benson.

Stats:

Eric Dawson:
Minutes: 37
Points: 37 (2PT: 14/24 = 58.3% ; 3PT: 0/0 = 0% ; FT: 9/15 = 60%)
Rebounds: 14 (4 Offensive)
Assists: 2
Steals: 2
Blocks: 4
Turnovers: 2
Fouls: 2

Keith Benson:
Minutes: 36
Points: 25 (2PT: 10/17 = 58.8% ; 3PT: 0/0 = 0% ; FT: 5/7 = 71.4%)
Rebounds: 11 (2 Offensive)
Assists: 0
Steals: 1
Blocks: 2
Turnovers: 2
Fouls: 6

Dawson owned Benson not only on stats but overall game.

Here's the gallery of my shots by the way:

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/pba/gallery/02_09_13__Electrified_Meralco_Bolts_Down_Talk_N_Te xt/#gallery_image_18

http://i48.tinypic.com/2u7ndqs.jpg

Some imports playing on the other team are:

Air21 Express: Michael Rene Dunigan
Alaska Aces: Robert Dozier
Barako Bull Energy Cola: Evan Brock
Barangay Ginebra San Miguel: Herbert Hill
Petron Blaze Boosters: Renaldo Balkman
Rain Or Shine Elasto Painters: Bruno Sundov
San Mig Coffee Mixers: Matthew Lamar Rogers

TDMVPDPOY
02-10-2013, 01:54 PM
i wonder why this clown was not got given another look, his fkn better than blair...

NickiRasgo
02-10-2013, 01:59 PM
i wonder why this clown was not got given another look, his fkn better than blair...

I'm really impressed how he played yesterday, he looks fat (some says he does look like a fat version of Durant) though. Not only basing on the stats but he defends well, decent mid-range game, somehow fast, kinda smart too.

Trill Clinton
02-10-2013, 02:00 PM
dude should be on someone's NBA roster already:toast

NickiRasgo
02-10-2013, 02:10 PM
Maybe stats would lie too, I mean there are players who are really good in *insert league here* and not really good in NBA though there are other players who are former NBA players too like Sundov, Balkman. Hopefully I'll have another chance to shoot the game between Dawson and Balkman/Sundov. By the way, if you remember Spurs drew interest on Denzel Bowles (who played here last year too) and I think the Spurs invited him too.

Bong
02-10-2013, 06:37 PM
im also in the philippines, i used to watch PBA before around the 90's when patrimonio "the captain", caidic "triggerman", limpot and company were still playing, and my team was san miguel beer (now petron), but now i rarely watch PBA cause players today are mostly ("mayabang"/boastful players), gone were the days that they teams played like spurs with lots of ball movement, today they play hero ball.

Eric Dawson:Minutes: 37 Points: 37 (2PT: 14/24 = 58.3% ; 3PT: 0/0 = 0% ; FT: 9/15 = 60%) Rebounds: 14 (4 Offensive) Assists: 2 Steals: 2 Blocks: 4 Turnovers: 2 Fouls: 2

--> it just show how our PBA team is out of league compared to NBA :lol he plays like an all star here in our league, but in NBA he's like an average player or bench player

ChumpDumper
02-10-2013, 10:30 PM
If Dawson ever got decent conditioning, he'd probably still be in the NBA.

NickiRasgo
02-10-2013, 11:59 PM
im also in the philippines, i used to watch PBA before around the 90's when patrimonio "the captain", caidic "triggerman", limpot and company were still playing, and my team was san miguel beer (now petron), but now i rarely watch PBA cause players today are mostly ("mayabang"/boastful players), gone were the days that they teams played like spurs with lots of ball movement, today they play hero ball.

Eric Dawson:Minutes: 37 Points: 37 (2PT: 14/24 = 58.3% ; 3PT: 0/0 = 0% ; FT: 9/15 = 60%) Rebounds: 14 (4 Offensive) Assists: 2 Steals: 2 Blocks: 4 Turnovers: 2 Fouls: 2

--> it just show how our PBA team is out of league compared to NBA :lol he plays like an all star here in our league, but in NBA he's like an average player or bench player

Hey where are you from?
have really idea
Yeah agree! Lots of showboaters here and playing with a so-called system. Though are few players here playing I admired. I don't really have an idea about the 90's but our cable provider (Global Destiny) has this channel (83/84/85/86, not really sure the exact channel) that shows PBA Classics Game and I kinda enjoyed watching it. One more thing I don't like in the league also consisting of like around 40% of this so-called half-Pinoy blood and can't even speak Tagalog, shame on them unlike Willie Miller can speak Tagalog fluently and pure-American Alex Compton.

Yeah I definitely agree that's why I said stats would lie too but to be fair Denzel Bowles beasting here and played decently during the NBA Summer League with the Hornets last year. This conference kinda sucks too in a way that so much dependent on imports, it was like a WWE's Lumberjack Match.

Having a pure-Filipino in NBA is really a long long shot, I'm not expecting too. Basketball is not our sports, because of height. Right now boxing is the best sport that will fit to us and maybe soccer, as long as height is not an advantage.

Bong
02-11-2013, 12:34 AM
Hey where are you from?
have really idea
Yeah agree! Lots of showboaters here and playing with a so-called system. Though are few players here playing I admired. I don't really have an idea about the 90's but our cable provider (Global Destiny) has this channel (83/84/85/86, not really sure the exact channel) that shows PBA Classics Game and I kinda enjoyed watching it. One more thing I don't like in the league also consisting of like around 40% of this so-called half-Pinoy blood and can't even speak Tagalog, shame on them unlike Willie Miller can speak Tagalog fluently and pure-American Alex Compton.

Yeah I definitely agree that's why I said stats would lie too but to be fair Denzel Bowles beasting here and played decently during the NBA Summer League with the Hornets last year. This conference kinda sucks too in a way that so much dependent on imports, it was like a WWE's Lumberjack Match.

Having a pure-Filipino in NBA is really a long long shot, I'm not expecting too. Basketball is not our sports, because of height. Right now boxing is the best sport that will fit to us and maybe soccer, as long as height is not an advantage.

im from quezon ave, how bout you?.

yup your right lots of sports here in the philippines are dominated by fil-am players (especially sports that really need size and strength like basketball, soccer and swimming) maybe it just not in our genes not like our foreign counterpart they have the God given height and strength, i know we have pure filipino ballers that have height like marlou aquino (1990's) and japeth aguilar (presently) but IMO they just dont have the upper body strength and athleticism to dominate the paint area and i think our government has some bearing on this also due to lack of support from government for sports, we dont have the funds to develop players not like in China, cause athleticism and height wise were almost in par with china but due to their government support for the sports they develop players as early as grade schooler resulting them to be at par with the USA in olympics and some chinese ballers dominate the NBA (not just a bench player but an all star [yao ming]))

im a little bit surprised to know that there are other filipino spurs fan heheheh, cause we are predominately a miami and laker nation; even one of the well known radio station here in the philippines their DJ dont know theres a NBA team called San Antonio Spurs and worst they dont know TD, TP and manu :downspin:

exstatic
02-11-2013, 12:36 AM
If Dawson ever got decent conditioning, he'd probably still be in the NBA.

Doesn't that kind of paint him as lazy?

adonis827
02-11-2013, 01:06 AM
im a little bit surprised to know that there are other filipino spurs fan heheheh, cause we are predominately a miami and laker nation; even one of the well known radio station here in the philippines their DJ dont know theres a NBA team called San Antonio Spurs and worst they dont know TD, TP and manu :downspin:

Of course there are a lot of Filipino San Antonio Spurs fan! Check this out

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=576649

mrjap2x
02-11-2013, 01:37 AM
Surprise that he isn't in the D-League anymore. Is the pay at dleague so low that unless you really want to play in the nba, there is no good reason to stay there.

Hi to other pinoy spurs fan.:toast

outmap
02-11-2013, 02:05 AM
Filipinos represent! :)

Spurs151
02-12-2013, 05:20 PM
The reason he looks fat is because he wears the under armor body pads under his jersey. Dude is actually skinny

ChumpDumper
02-12-2013, 05:41 PM
Doesn't that kind of paint him as lazy?Maybe. Maybe just doesn't have the motor.

DapDaGenius
02-12-2013, 05:55 PM
I like Dawson, as well as a couple other people were/are on the Toros(Tyler Wilkerson, Rick Jackson, JaMychal Green).

Would be nice to see how Dawson does at an NBA level, eventually. Hope he works on his FT%.

Duncanoypi
02-12-2013, 06:28 PM
Hey hey Filipino Spurs fans!

How bawt a GTG huh?

BOHOLANO#21
02-12-2013, 08:19 PM
Pinoy spurs fan here!

ceperez
02-12-2013, 08:29 PM
+1

John B
02-13-2013, 08:12 AM
Pinoy represent.

Bong
02-13-2013, 08:17 AM
GTG? get together? baka pagnatuloy suwerte na yung umaabot tayo sa 5 hehehe:toast