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ace3g

02-22-2012, 02:33 PM

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MAIN CARD (pay-per-view)

Champ Junior Dos Santos vs. Frank Mir (for heavyweight title)
Antonio Silva vs. Cain Velasquez
Dave Herman vs. Roy Nelson
Shane Del Rosario vs. Stipe Miocic
Lavar Johnson vs. Stefan Struve

PRELIMINARY CARD (FX)

Diego Brandao vs. Darren Elkins
Edson Barboza vs. Jamie Varner
C.B. Dollaway vs. Jason "Mayhem" Miller
Dan Hardy vs. Duane "Bang" Ludwig

PRELIMINARY CARD (Facebook)

Paul Sass vs. Jacob Volkmann
Kyle Kingsbury vs. Glover Teixeira
Mike Brown vs. Daniel Pineda

The TroutBum

02-23-2012, 11:42 AM

Nice! There are a few guys on this card that I really enjoy watching lose. Dollaway, Gonzaga, Shit-Tooth, and Roid-Boy.

I love this card so far.

ace3g

03-07-2012, 03:59 PM

shyne

03-07-2012, 04:14 PM

Love this card so far

polandprzem

03-07-2012, 06:29 PM

sick card tbh imo

The TroutBum

03-08-2012, 02:36 AM

Cain Velasquez vs. Frank Mir title-eliminator added to UFC 146

http://mmajunkie.com/news/27762/cain-velasquez-vs-frank-mir-title-eliminator-added-to-ufc-146.mma?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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Creamed my jeans? Yes I did.

I'm not a big fan of a loser like Brown Pride getting a shot at a winner like Mir, but I'm not complaining. Outside of submitting Lesnar, this will be my favorite victory of Mir's. I'm calling a first round guillotine.

The TroutBum

03-08-2012, 02:39 AM

Champ Junior Dos Santos vs. Alistair Overeem - Overeem? Seriously? Bwahaha...
Frank Mir vs. Cain Velasquez - Again, first round sub. Book that shit.
Edson Barboza vs. Evan Dunham - Scary dude.
Roy Nelson vs. Antonio Silva - Never bet on a Strikeforce queer, especially one who never dominated over there.
C.B. Dollaway vs. Jason "Mayhem" Miller - Miller is probably still brooding over how shitty he looked against Bispussy and won't let that shit happen again. Expect him to come in in shape and in good form. Dollaway is a bitch anyhow.

dbreiden83080

03-08-2012, 10:17 AM

The TroutBum

03-08-2012, 10:55 AM

This kinda pisses me off because this card is looking awesome yet they have a shitty card for 145 outside of Jones/Evans..

Cain getting another title shot if he beats Mir is Meh...

Mir i can't see winning this fight.. I'd like him too but not likely..
OK, clearly I'm a Mir homer, and clearly you don't like him -- but I'd like to know your thoughts on why it's "not likely" that he'll win? How do you see this fight going down?

dbreiden83080

03-08-2012, 11:01 AM

OK, clearly I'm a Mir homer, and clearly you don't like him -- but I'd like to know your thoughts on why it's "not likely" that he'll win? How do you see this fight going down?

He's got a shot, Mir is very skilled. Neither guy has the best chin TBH. Mir has shown in the past that chin is not very reliable and Cain has shown both in the Kongo and JDS fight he can be dropped as well. Mir has shown some cardio issues in the past, he was dead tired against Nelson. Cain never gasses and just keeps coming. This depends on the game-plan of Cain IMO. If he wants to stand and bang, i give Mir a chance because i think his standup is better overall but if he wants to wrestle, then i see him winning a UD or TKO in the fight. I don't see Mir getting the sub from his back and he's not taking Cain down. Rooting for Mir BTW because Cain is a boring and annoying personality to me, but i think it's a tough one for Mir..

The TroutBum

03-08-2012, 11:33 AM

He's got a shot, Mir is very skilled. Neither guy has the best chin TBH. Mir has shown in the past that chin is not very reliable and Cain has shown both in the Kongo and JDS fight he can be dropped as well. Mir has shown some cardio issues in the past, he was dead tired against Nelson. Cain never gasses and just keeps coming. This depends on the game-plan of Cain IMO. If he wants to stand and bang, i give Mir a chance because i think his standup is better overall but if he wants to wrestle, then i see him winning a UD or TKO in the fight. I don't see Mir getting the sub from his back and he's not taking Cain down. Rooting for Mir BTW because Cain is a boring and annoying personality to me, but i think it's a tough one for Mir..

Fair enough. Interestingly enough, I would rather see it go to the ground. I like Mir's standup, but against a big hard striker like BP, it only takes one good shot... And Mir has shown in past fights with big hard strikers that he can take at least one or two, but then doesn't realize that they're taking a toll and doesn't cover up or defend, and then gets KO'd. If it stays on the feet, I'm hoping to see something along the lines of the Kongo fight; catch him on the chin or temple with a decent combo and then go in for a quick sub while he's wobbly. If it goes to the ground, Mir either needs to sub him on the TD attempt (guillotine, darce, etc), or sweep and sub/gnp. Or else BP is going to smother him and GnP him into an oblivion, which is also a strong possibility.

I bet Mir is a 3 to 1 dog in this one, unfortunately. This will be his career defining fight, imo. Win and get one last shot at the title. Lose, and become a Gate Keeper for the HW division or just retire. A loss here will pretty much destroy any chance of ever getting another shot -- I just don't see another 4 to 5 fight win streak in him. (that is, I don't think he can take it mentally, and probably would retire)

txstr1986

03-08-2012, 04:21 PM

Holy crap this card is stacked with awesome heavyweight action. Big Country is one of my favorite fighters to watch.

ace3g

03-14-2012, 03:35 PM

UFC announced today 146 Main Card will be all HWs

http://www.ufc.com/news/ufc-146-fight-card-updates

polandprzem

03-27-2012, 12:37 PM

presser now

http://www.ufc.com/media/146-pc-3272012

desflood

03-28-2012, 11:38 AM

Multiple fighters will be "surprise" drug-tested ahead of schedule.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28007/nsac-tests-six-fighters-in-advance-of-ufc-146.mma

Suppose this means trouble for anyone?

polandprzem

03-28-2012, 12:29 PM

shad maybe

rory?

The TroutBum

03-29-2012, 04:37 AM

Multiple fighters will be "surprise" drug-tested ahead of schedule.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28007/nsac-tests-six-fighters-in-advance-of-ufc-146.mma

Suppose this means trouble for anyone?

Obviously OverTool is getting all the hype right now. He looks to be double Mir's size in the presser, and Mir isn't a small guy.

I have this nagging gross feeling that Mir is going to fail. If he does, I will retire to my room, cry, and then curse that fucking cheater until the day I die. Please, Frank, tell me I'm wrong.

dbreiden83080

03-29-2012, 11:04 AM

Obviously OverTool is getting all the hype right now. He looks to be double Mir's size in the presser, and Mir isn't a small guy.

I have this nagging gross feeling that Mir is going to fail. If he does, I will retire to my room, cry, and then curse that fucking cheater until the day I die. Please, Frank, tell me I'm wrong.

Well he's not fighting Reem, Cain is not a huge HW Mir should be bigger than hiim so what are you worried about? If Mir can beat Cain he can beat Reem. Reem is a monster of strength and power but his flaws lie in his cardio and questionable chin.. Sadly for Mir he has those same issues..

The TroutBum

03-29-2012, 10:47 PM

Well he's not fighting Reem, Cain is not a huge HW Mir should be bigger than hiim so what are you worried about? If Mir can beat Cain he can beat Reem. Reem is a monster of strength and power but his flaws lie in his cardio and questionable chin.. Sadly for Mir he has those same issues..

Context is everything, homie. I was talking about the roid test. I think Mir would PLOW through OverFag with ease. I also can't wait to watch him snap Brown Prides leg at the knee.

ace3g

04-04-2012, 03:49 PM

dbreiden83080

04-04-2012, 04:15 PM

Well this card is going to be reshuffled, Overeem fails test:

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28109/alistair-overeem-fails-pre-fight-drug-test-likely-out-of-ufc-146-title-fight.mma?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Just saw this i am gonna make a new thread on this if you don't mind Ace. His future in the UFC could be in danger..

ace3g

04-04-2012, 04:20 PM

Just saw this i am gonna make a new thread on this if you don't mind Ace. His future in the UFC could be in danger..

Go ahead

dbreiden83080

04-04-2012, 04:23 PM

Wonder if Mir gets bumped up to the title shot.. Cain would not get it without winning a fight first against somebody..

Rip-Hamilton32

04-04-2012, 06:12 PM

if Cain is in shape and healthy i think he kills Dos Santos but Mir will probably get the nod

The TroutBum

04-05-2012, 01:27 AM

War mir!

polandprzem

04-05-2012, 10:04 AM

He frickin knew there will be random testing

What an ass

ace3g

04-05-2012, 11:46 AM

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ace3g

04-06-2012, 02:03 PM

and the new main event is......................

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The TroutBum

04-07-2012, 12:16 AM

Alright, for a split second I was like... "What the fuck is THIS shit?!"

dbreiden83080

04-07-2012, 01:31 PM

Dana White: "Mir vs Cain will happen"

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Dana twittered 10 min ago. I wonder who JDS is fighting?

polandprzem

04-07-2012, 02:23 PM

Cormier :D

The TroutBum

04-07-2012, 09:54 PM

Dana White: "Mir vs Cain will happen"

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Dana twittered 10 min ago. I wonder who JDS is fighting?

If Roid is out, then who-oh-who would get the shot over Mir? Seriously, who?

dbreiden83080

04-07-2012, 10:37 PM

If Roid is out, then who-oh-who would get the shot over Mir? Seriously, who?

Hunt.. :lol

Maybe they will sign someone like Barnett

Or wait for it..............................

http://cdn2.cagepotato.com/wp-content/uploads/FedorIceCream.jpg

Nah no chance there..

The TroutBum

04-08-2012, 02:58 AM

About the only person I'd allow over Mir would be Fedor. If they bring in that OTHER fucking Roid Monkey, I'll fucking cry.

ace3g

04-12-2012, 05:15 PM

lol lol

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The TroutBum

04-12-2012, 08:13 PM

The interesting thing, to me at least, is that Hunt probably has a better chance at beating JDS than a lot of fighters. Dude can flat out take a punch and has bricks in his hand. In a stand up match, I'd put money on Hunt.

ace3g

04-20-2012, 10:51 PM

Dana White ‏ @danawhite

Close

Taking off to Atlanta!!!! May 26 th is now Mir vs JDS for the HW title in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand.

shyne

04-20-2012, 10:56 PM

Dana White ‏ @danawhite

Close

Taking off to Atlanta!!!! May 26 th is now Mir vs JDS for the HW title in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand.

First round ko, JDS will murder him

The TroutBum

04-20-2012, 11:16 PM

Dana White ‏ @danawhite

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Taking off to Atlanta!!!! May 26 th is now Mir vs JDS for the HW title in Las Vegas at the MGM Grand.

THIS is why I'm a Mormon.

WAR MOTHER FUCKIN' MIR!!!!

ace3g

04-22-2012, 05:11 PM

Cain will face bigfoot silva, so not sure who Nelson will fight

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28381/ufc-146-shakeup-continues-with-mir-moved-to-main-event-velasquez-draws-bigfoot.mma?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

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Dana White ‏ @danawhite

Roy Nelson vs Gabe Gonzaga

ace3g

05-02-2012, 11:51 PM

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The TroutBum

05-03-2012, 10:40 PM

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CHILLS.

Man, if Mir loses, I don't know what I'll do with myself. But if he wins, I will be the most intolerable bitch this forum has ever seen.

dbreiden83080

05-04-2012, 02:04 PM

CHILLS.

Man, if Mir loses, I don't know what I'll do with myself. But if he wins, I will be the most intolerable bitch this forum has ever seen.

Sig Bet..

I need some pay-back.. You game??

Stringer_Bell

05-04-2012, 06:57 PM

Sadly, we saw what happened to Hulk Mir when he got uppercut by a power punching brawler. I don't see good things in his future if he gets upper cut by a power punching boxer. :/

dbreiden83080

05-04-2012, 08:38 PM

Mir has the skills to beat most HW's but JDS is just a bad style for him. Great TDD and lethal boxing. He is gonna find Mir's chin early and end it..

The TroutBum

05-05-2012, 02:12 AM

Sig Bet..

I need some pay-back.. You game??

Girl, you know it.

ace3g

05-11-2012, 05:46 PM

Showtime for UFC 146 airs after TUF Live tonight: http://mmajunkie.com/news/28660/reminder-ufc-primetime-dos-santos-vs-mir-debuts-tonight-on-fx.mma?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

polandprzem

05-12-2012, 09:57 AM

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dbreiden83080

05-12-2012, 11:58 PM

On PT Mir said JDS was one dimensional and he's right but JDS one dimension and biggest weapon Mir is not likely to have an answer for. JDS is younger, faster, more athletic, hard to TD, has better hands and hits hard..

Reem may have had the answers but not Mir..

strosFan2

05-17-2012, 12:29 PM

MAIN CARD (pay-per-view)
Champ Junior Dos Santos vs. Frank Mir (for heavyweight title)
Antonio Silva vs. Cain Velasquez
Dave Herman vs. Roy Nelson
Shane Del Rosario vs. Stipe Miocic
Mark Hunt vs. Stefan Struve

ace3g

05-17-2012, 08:12 PM

If you made predictions for the Hunt/Struve fight, need to re-think:

Mark Hunt forced out at UFC 146, Stefan Struve now meets Lavar Johnson

A source close to the event today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) that Johnson (17-5 MMA, 2-0 UFC) is replacing Mark Hunt (8-7 MMA, 3-1 UFC), who was forced to bow out with a knee injury, in a heavyweight bout against Stefan Struve (23-5 MMA, 7-3 UFC) at UFC 146, which takes place May 26 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/28754/mark-hunt-forced-out-at-ufc-146-stefan-struve-now-meets-lavar-johnson.mma

dbreiden83080

05-17-2012, 08:24 PM

polandprzem

05-18-2012, 04:23 AM

If this gonna stay standing. Struve gonna get KOed !

Damn Mark. Not many years left and the fuckin injury

ace3g

05-18-2012, 09:32 PM

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dbreiden83080

05-24-2012, 10:55 AM

MAIN CARD (pay-per-view)

Champ Junior Dos Santos vs. Frank Mir (for heavyweight title)
KO round 1 or 2.. Mir has no chin and his cardio when he is in the 260 range is terrible... He needs the fight down as fast as possible. JDS is younger, faster, more athletic and explosive.. Mir has little chance.

Sig Bet Trout.. Lets go Punk....:ihit

Antonio Silva vs. Cain Velasquez
Neither have great chins but Cain will use his wrestling this time, he needs the win badly to get back on the track for the title..

Dave Herman vs. Roy Nelson

Shane Del Rosario vs. Stipe Miocic

Lavar Johnson vs. Stefan Struve
I have been burned picking Struve before.. But i will go with him yet again.. don't ask me why????

ace3g

05-25-2012, 12:37 PM

MAIN CARD (pay-per-view)

Champ Junior Dos Santos vs. Frank Mir (for heavyweight title)
- Speed, speed, speed... JDS use your speed to your advantage, don't get trapped into a slow paced fight.

Antonio Silva vs. Cain Velasquez
- Shouldn't take too much effort to hit the chin of Silva...

Dave Herman vs. Roy Nelson
- Roy Nelson needs to get back on track, 3 of his last 4 fights have been loss by decision, if he loses again, he should really consider going down to LHW.

Shane Del Rosario vs. Stipe Miocic
- Can't ever go against the Cro Cop Protege

Lavar Johnson vs. Stefan Struve
- Lets see, all but 1 of Johnson's losses have come by submission; all but 1 of Struve's losses have come by TKO/KO....hmmm tough one to choose, Struve should be able to use his length to his adv, while Lavar has been on a hot streak since joining the UFC. For this one I'm going with momentum, Lavar Johnson it is.

polandprzem

05-26-2012, 06:21 AM

MAIN CARD (pay-per-view)

Champ Junior Dos Santos vs. Frank Mir (for heavyweight title)
I would pick Mir but IMO Dos Santos is in a row and Frank has about 5% chances of taking JDS down where is his only chance to win IMO.

Antonio Silva vs. Cain Velasquez
Cain must dominate Silva. Go Cain go! Again take the throne.

Dave Herman vs. Roy Nelson
Anyones chances but Roys steel chin and ground will make it.

Lavar Johnson vs. Stefan Struve
I was about to pick Lavar. I like guys with heavy hands. But it's possible this fight will go to the ground and the Struve will finish Johnson quick

C.B. Dollaway vs. Jason "Mayhem" Miller
Last chance man - let's go

Dan Hardy vs. Duane "Bang" Ludwig
If Dan gonna last more then 2 minutes, it's gonna be a frickin standup war!

dbreiden83080

05-26-2012, 11:40 AM

If JDS is going to be champ for a few years he will dominate this fight.. He has so much talent and Mir's time to be champ has come and gone IMO...

dbreiden83080

05-26-2012, 05:17 PM

MAIN CARD (Pay-per-view)
•Champ Junior Dos Santos (239) vs. Frank Mir (261)
•Antonio Silva (264) vs. Cain Velasquez (240)
•Dave Herman (233) vs. Roy Nelson (254)
•Shane Del Rosario (246) vs. Stipe Miocic (245)
•Lavar Johnson (248) vs. Stefan Struve (255)

Mir is heavy and will be slow...

ace3g

05-26-2012, 07:13 PM

Didn't expect that from Hardy....

ace3g

05-26-2012, 07:27 PM

Lets go Mayhem!!!

ace3g

05-26-2012, 07:48 PM

oh well, Mayhem couldn't do much with a blown knee, landed some good shots prior, even landed one after the injury as well...

ace3g

05-26-2012, 08:05 PM

wow, so glad I didn't pick any of the prelim fights...Varner with the upset

05-26-2012, 09:20 PM

That's a deadly armbar.

05-26-2012, 09:31 PM

Battle of unbeatens

resistanze

05-26-2012, 09:54 PM

:lmao Big Muthafuckin Country

05-26-2012, 10:12 PM

:lmao Big Muthafuckin Country

:lol

05-26-2012, 10:19 PM

La raaaaaaza

resistanze

05-26-2012, 10:24 PM

Silva bleeding like a stuck pig

05-26-2012, 10:29 PM

That was dominant.

shyne

05-26-2012, 10:31 PM

He's back!

mystargtr34

05-26-2012, 10:38 PM

Lol Bigfoot

resistanze

05-26-2012, 10:52 PM

Wow....thought JDS was gonna finish him, wtf...

resistanze

05-26-2012, 10:54 PM

JDS just toying with Mir

resistanze

05-26-2012, 10:56 PM

:lmao

05-26-2012, 10:59 PM

Lol damn.

shyne

05-26-2012, 11:04 PM

Junior is a badass, his hands are crazy good

dbreiden83080

05-26-2012, 11:21 PM

Didn't see it but sounds like the fight was as ridiculously one sided as i thought it would be.. Oldest saying in the game is styles make fights.. After Mir got destroyed by Brock at UFC 100 he made the decision to bulk up so he could hang in with the giant grapplers in the division. That decision cost him what speed he had along with cardio. Actually the Mir of UFC 100 had a better shot tonight being slimmer and quicker.. This Mir was dead meat from the moment he signed the bout agreement..

dbreiden83080

05-26-2012, 11:50 PM

Sig Bet..

I need some pay-back.. You game??

:hat

Girl, you know it.

ace3g

05-27-2012, 12:23 AM

And Still....

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ace3g

05-27-2012, 12:44 AM

according to Dana, sounds like JDS vs Cain II is happening "he likes that fight"

The TroutBum

05-27-2012, 01:47 AM

Fuck.

That's all I've got to say about that.

/long sigh

ace3g

05-27-2012, 02:02 AM

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dbreiden83080

05-27-2012, 10:33 AM

Dana said Mayhem is done with the UFC not just because of the loss but because of some nonsense that went on backstage..

So long...

tlongII

05-27-2012, 02:10 PM

I think the only guy that can beat JDS is Bones Jones.

mystargtr34

05-27-2012, 07:31 PM

Its about time JBJ fought someone his own size tbh.

angelbelow

05-28-2012, 06:26 AM

Just watched the fight. Dos Santos is a beast. Frank Mir is definitely prone to knock outs, but props to him for taking the fight anyway.

Cain looked awesome tonight too, wasn't expecting such a thorough domination from him.

MannyIsGod

05-28-2012, 11:35 AM

I think the only guy that can beat JDS is Bones Jones.

I doubt that is the case. Best pound for pound but I think a lot of heavyweights would destroy him.

In any case, Cain can definitely beat JDS.

MannyIsGod

05-28-2012, 11:36 AM

tlongII

05-28-2012, 03:42 PM

I doubt that is the case. Best pound for pound but I think a lot of heavyweights would destroy him.

In any case, Cain can definitely beat JDS.

I think Bones will move up to heavyweight in a few years and clean out the division. He's a big dude.

angelbelow

05-28-2012, 04:12 PM

People have forgotten about Cain after a bit of a layoff and being caught with ONE punch. Its amazing how fast people forget about how dominant Cain is.

I love both of those guys. I think they're a step above other heavyweights but I don't think either is much farther than the other guy. However, its impossible not to point out that Cain is by far the more dynamic of the two.

Yeah. You don't forget about a guy like Cain. But I wasn't expecting him to run through Big Foot the way he did either.

I think Junior is arguably more of a one note. I mean how many times have we seen this guy on the floor.