View Full Version : How is Obama going to convince people to let him serve Bush's 4th term?
Jacob1983
02-29-2012, 04:20 AM
In 2008, he promised hope and change and it's basically been nope and the same. He is currently serving Bush's 3rd term and wants to serve 4th term for Bush. Whether you love or hate Obama, can't you admit that the enthusiasm and support for Obama has is down from the enthusiasm and support he had in 2008? Are we going to see dozens of celebrities telling us why we must give Obama a chance to serve Bush's 4th term? Is Obama going to tell us that if we vote for Romney that it will be a 3rd term of Bush?
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ChumpDumper
02-29-2012, 04:24 AM
I think he's just going to run against Romney. That might do it.
MannyIsGod
02-29-2012, 04:29 AM
Enthusiasm is down for sure. Amazingly, enthusiasm for the GOP is also down just as much if not more.
Jacob1983
02-29-2012, 05:43 AM
Is the cheerleader on Heroes going to tell us that we can't vote for McCain again?
ChumpDumper
02-29-2012, 05:45 AM
If you whine about it again, I hope so.
MannyIsGod
02-29-2012, 06:35 AM
Is the cheerleader on Heroes going to tell us that we can't vote for McCain again?
Yes.
Next question?
boutons_deux
02-29-2012, 07:01 AM
Is the cheerleader on Heroes going to tell us that we can't vote for McCain again?
McLiar ain't running, except running old-man drool down his chin
johnsmith
02-29-2012, 12:04 PM
McLiar ain't running, except running old-man drool down his chin
Worst.......joke......ever....
WakeboardXo
02-29-2012, 07:26 PM
Its simple... my theory is he will become the President Obama (http://tickertracker.net/obama) of SPACE!:lmao
http://rlv.zcache.com/obama_for_president_of_space_tshirt-d235027761489443925vbkt_325.jpg
But in all honesty... his campaign is doing really well utilizing social media. A spotify playlist, tumblr, G+ ...
I feel like he didn't get to do much in his first term (in regards to hope and change) because of the "always vote against" mentality that the GOP adopted and plus he had to worry about getting re-elected in 2012. But now...
If he were to get re-elected, I am hoping he would kick ass :ihit
Nbadan
03-01-2012, 12:22 AM
Haaa! the worst criticism that wing-nut like the OP have against Obama is that he's too much like Dubya, their savior after Reagan....
Ended two wars, killed Obama...errr....Usama....health care reform, financial reform, kept wing-nuts from loading the Supreme with 'originalists' like Alito and Thomas, and as a bonus stopped a guy with dimensia, McCain, from bombing Iran....
No wonder intrade has Obama at over 60% for re-election
Cry Havoc
03-01-2012, 01:44 AM
Obama has been fairly horrible for civil rights. That said anything that Obama's faring poorly at would be grossly exaggerated by Romney. The fact that he's emerged with RICK SANTORUM as his primary rival is a testament to how much of a wasteland the modern GOP is today.
Jacob1983
03-01-2012, 02:33 AM
Hold on now, the Neo Cons are not saying that Obama is like Bush. The logical sane people are saying that Obama is like Bush. Even liberals that supported Obama in 2008 are starting to see it.
ChumpDumper
03-01-2012, 02:52 AM
Hold on now, the Neo Cons are not saying that Obama is like Bush. The logical sane people are saying that Obama is like Bush. Even liberals that supported Obama in 2008 are starting to see it.So you like Obama then.
Nice.
Winehole23
03-05-2012, 03:43 PM
Obama goes way beyond Bush by now.
Bush blazed a trail for sure; Obama has maintained and extended (http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/holder-speak-targeted-killings-americans/story?id=15851232#.T1UkI_U098E) it.
hitmanyr2k
03-05-2012, 04:31 PM
This again? Why is anyone going to give a fuck if some dumbass "American citizen" is blasted in Yemen for hanging around assholes who are plotting terrorist acts? Do you seriously think the average American is going to give a damn? Most will question why the "American citizen" was over in Yemen in the first place. And when they find out why he was over there they won't give two shits about him.
Jacob1983
03-05-2012, 04:36 PM
Shit taker, I am not a fan of Obama. He is just like Bush. He is probably a bigger liar than Bush too. He told us that if we had voted for old grandpa McCain, that we would have gotten a 3rd term of Bush. Bush sucked and was a terrible president but at least you knew what you were getting. Bush didn't try to get people to like him either. He didn't go on ESPN or yahoo sports and tell you what he thinks about Jeremy Lin. Bush believed in his nation building and policing the world adventures and did not give a shit if people liked him or not.
This again? Why is anyone going to give a fuck if some dumbass "American citizen" is blasted in Yemen for hanging around assholes who are plotting terrorist acts? Do you seriously think the average American is going to give a damn? Most will question why the "American citizen" was over in Yemen in the first place. And when they find out why he was over there they won't give two shits about him.
Initially I thought the same thing and still pretty much do, the major difference being the fear of this being a slippery slope. Citizens being murdered in the name of the state must always be unacceptable.
hitmanyr2k
03-05-2012, 04:42 PM
Shit taker, I am not a fan of Obama. He is just like Bush. He is probably a bigger liar than Bush too. He told us that if we had voted for old grandpa McCain, that we would have gotten a 3rd term of Bush. Bush sucked and was a terrible president but at least you knew what you were getting. Bush didn't try to get people to like him either. He didn't go on ESPN or yahoo sports and tell you what he thinks about Jeremy Lin. Bush believed in his nation building and policing the world adventures and did not give a shit if people liked him or not.
Who cares what you're a fan of? Obama can probably be this or probably be that in your eyes. So what? What is that supposed to mean to me?
Goran Dragic
03-05-2012, 04:43 PM
He told us that if we had voted for old grandpa McCain, that we would have gotten a 3rd term of Bush.
And that was true.
McCain woulda been way more similar to Bush than Obama has been.
coyotes_geek
03-05-2012, 04:47 PM
And that was true.
McCain woulda been way more similar to Bush than Obama has been.
Only in the sense that Obama tacked on a shitty healthcare reform plan to the Bush agenda and McCain wouldn't have. Neither case is something to brag about......
McCain woulda been way more similar to Bush than Obama has been.
i don't think that's possible.
Goran Dragic
03-05-2012, 04:49 PM
Only in the sense that Obama tacked on a shitty healthcare reform plan to the Bush agenda and McCain wouldn't have. Neither case is something to brag about......
Obama ended Bush's war. McCain woulda started another one.
Goran Dragic
03-05-2012, 04:50 PM
i don't think that's possible.
See post above. decreasing the amount of wars America is involved in during his tenure as president is in and of itself something that separates Obama from Bush.
coyotes_geek
03-05-2012, 04:50 PM
Obama ended Bush's war. McCain woulda started another one.
And which war would that have been? Libya?
See post above. decreasing the amount of wars America is involved in during his tenure as president is in and of itself something that separates Obama from Bush.
a bunch of cruise missiles would like a word with you.
Goran Dragic
03-05-2012, 04:53 PM
And which war would that have been? Libya?
No, Iran.
And we'd probably still be in Iraq.
Goran Dragic
03-05-2012, 04:53 PM
a bunch of cruise missiles would like a word with you.
a bunch of dead ground troops wouldn't.
:lol thinking the Libya conflict compares to Iraq's abortion
a bunch of dead ground troops wouldn't.
:lol thinking the Libya conflict compares to Iraq's abortion
strawman.
better luck next time with your rash, emotional generalizations and tired LOL jokes.
coyotes_geek
03-05-2012, 05:01 PM
No, Iran.
And we'd probably still be in Iraq.
Unlikely.
Debateable.
clambake
03-05-2012, 05:02 PM
mccain is trying to go into syria......as we speak.
TeyshaBlue
03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
Obama ended Bush's war. McCain woulda started another one.
You mean Obama presided over Bush's withdrawal timetable, right?
Jacob1983
03-05-2012, 05:06 PM
Put down Barry's koolaid. Bush and his cronies ended the war in Iraq before Barry served one day as president. It was a part of the agreement that was made that the troops would be out by 2011.
jack sommerset
03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
4 more years of bush or 16 years Total as the op suggest. Just another reminder of all the lies this man has told. He was suppose to be nothing like Bush, change and hope. Blame bush for gitmo, war,wire tapping, spending, gas, jobs, etc.....all to get elected for a job, a better pay day, power and greed. He did not do this for the people. He do this for himself.
Dems should have replaced him with a honest guy. No more of the same. True vision Is to understand the history, not to repeat it. God bless.
TeyshaBlue
03-05-2012, 05:08 PM
You mean Obama presided over Bush's withdrawal timetable, right?
Althought, it's difficult to tell with the GOP hypocrites, ie. Cain-Romney-Perry squealing about the withdrawal and blaming Obama when it was Bush that negotiated it:lol.
jack sommerset
03-05-2012, 05:09 PM
4 more years of bush or 16 years Total as the op suggest. Just another reminder of all the lies this man has told. He was suppose to be nothing like Bush, change and hope. Blame bush for gitmo, war,wire tapping, spending, gas, jobs, etc.....all to get elected for a job, a better pay day, power and greed. He did not do this for the people. He do this for himself.
Dems should have replaced him with a honest guy. No more of the same. True vision Is to understand the mistakes in our history, not to repeat it. God bless.
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FuzzyLumpkins
03-05-2012, 05:59 PM
Have GOP advocates use stupid shit like this to try and make a point for starters. Even supporters can barely manage an echo of the actual issues as they transpire and the rest just leave that to spin and a lack of specifics.
The willfully ignorant.
Goran Dragic
03-05-2012, 09:06 PM
strawman.
better luck next time with your rash, emotional generalizations and tired LOL jokes.
better luck next time trying to argue that a brief conflict in Libya that cost no American lives makes Obama like Bush
Goran Dragic
03-05-2012, 09:08 PM
So all these Republicans saying Obama = Bush, are you cheese dicks ready to finally admit George Bush was a horrible president :lmao
You guys constantly defend Bush and his abortion of a presidency, then compare Obama to Bush like it's a bad thing in your eyes.
Winehole23
03-05-2012, 10:23 PM
fwiw, I used to rag on Bush all the time here. Still do sometimes.
Continuity, not change.
Jacob1983
03-06-2012, 01:54 AM
I vote for Bush in 2004 but I can admit and will admit that he was a shitty president and caused massive damage to America and around the world. With that being said, Obama is like Bush because Obama supports the Patriot Act, Gitmo, nation building in the Middle East, not giving due process to American citizens, etc...
How can you not see that?
Obama = Bush
FuzzyLumpkins
03-06-2012, 02:12 AM
I vote for Bush in 2004 but I can admit and will admit that he was a shitty president and caused massive damage to America and around the world. With that being said, Obama is like Bush because Obama supports the Patriot Act, Gitmo, nation building in the Middle East, not giving due process to American citizens, etc...
How can you not see that?
Obama = Bush
National security procedures have not changed and he basically forwent his campaign promises along those lines and now hides behind classified memo's.
As pertains relations with the third world etc, just the rhetoric is light years different. There are no religious overtones and he is conciliatory. The action taken in Libya is a huge deviation from Bush's maverick foregin policy. We let France take the lead there.
Obama is either weak or coopted in terms of banking reregulations however he is not actively proposing further deregulations.
The tax code approach is different. That should be obvious.
Health care was coopted but do you think for a heartbeat that Bush would have proposed anything even similar to that. Wait, he did not.
Drug policy is different. Immigration has seen him do nothing whatsoever.
Really what it comes down to is a lot of people are pissed because Obama has continued with a lot of the totalitarian shit the Bush Administration enacted. So of course there are parallels but equating the two is just dumbing shit down once again.
Jacob1983
03-06-2012, 03:07 AM
When it comes to fighting terrorism and dealing with national security and foreign policy, Bush and Obama are very similar.
People bashed the shit out of Bush 24/7 when he was president but now that he's gone and Barry is the new man in charge, people act like it's a crime to bash Obama. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
FuzzyLumpkins
03-06-2012, 03:09 AM
When it comes to fighting terrorism and dealing with national security and foreign policy, Bush and Obama are very similar.
People bashed the shit out of Bush 24/7 when he was president but now that he's gone and Barry is the new man in charge, people act like it's a crime to bash Obama. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
Sorry but if nothing else the rhetoric is different and if you think that Bush would have let France take the lead on Libya you are deluding yourself. Generalizations are easier to understand but never tell anything but an approximation of what is going on.
Wild Cobra
03-06-2012, 03:28 AM
I wonder if Obamacare has a zero deductible cosmetic surgery benefit like the Buffalo NY teachers have in their healthcare benefits package.
ChumpDumper
03-06-2012, 03:35 AM
I wonder if Obamacare has a zero deductible cosmetic surgery benefit like the Buffalo NY teachers have in their healthcare benefits package.No, you don't wonder.
Wild Cobra
03-06-2012, 03:35 AM
When it comes to fighting terrorism and dealing with national security and foreign policy, Bush and Obama are very similar.
People bashed the shit out of Bush 24/7 when he was president but now that he's gone and Barry is the new man in charge, people act like it's a crime to bash Obama. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
Who do you think is being more hypocritical. The liberals, or conservatives? The democrats, or republicans?
Will Hunting
03-06-2012, 07:44 AM
I vote for Bush in 2004
Yeah, I could tell already. Don't bitch about someone you support. You I bet were a huge Bush fan from 2000-2008, then you heard "Obama is just like Bush!" so now you're pretending to hate Bush cause you found a trendy way to trash Obama.
Will Hunting
03-06-2012, 07:44 AM
No, you don't wonder.
:lmao
coyotes_geek
03-06-2012, 09:28 AM
So all these Republicans saying Obama = Bush, are you cheese dicks ready to finally admit George Bush was a horrible president :lmao
You guys constantly defend Bush and his abortion of a presidency, then compare Obama to Bush like it's a bad thing in your eyes.
Since republicans are convinced that Obama is the devil, it seems like it should be pretty obvious that they're probably not going to be the ones making any Obama = Bush equivalences. Since democrats are convinced that Bush was the devil, they're not going to be making those comparisons either.
Winehole23
03-06-2012, 09:51 AM
With that being said, Obama is like Bush because Obama supports the Patriot Act, Gitmo, nation building in the Middle East, not giving due process to American citizens, etc...
How can you not see that?
Obama = Bushum, you're a little late to the party. people been saying stuff like this for years.
TeyshaBlue
03-06-2012, 09:53 AM
So all these Republicans saying Obama = Bush, are you cheese dicks ready to finally admit George Bush was a horrible president :lmao
You guys constantly defend Bush and his abortion of a presidency, then compare Obama to Bush like it's a bad thing in your eyes.
lol confirmation bias.
lol you guys.
Goran Dragic
03-06-2012, 12:40 PM
Since republicans are convinced that Obama is the devil, it seems like it should be pretty obvious that they're probably not going to be the ones making any Obama = Bush equivalences. Since democrats are convinced that Bush was the devil, they're not going to be making those comparisons either.
Oh great, the "I'm a trendy moderate who's not a Democrat or Republican!" soapbox.
TeyshaBlue
03-06-2012, 12:44 PM
Oh great, the "I'm a trendy moderate who's not a Democrat or Republican!" soapbox.
Oh great, the "I lack critical thinking skills so I'm just gonna sling shit!" soapbox.
Goran Dragic
03-06-2012, 12:47 PM
Oh great, the "I lack critical thinking skills so I'm just gonna sling shit!" soapbox.
I don't really think that would be a soapbox
Maybe your critical thinking needs improvement
TeyshaBlue
03-06-2012, 12:52 PM
You need to spend more time here, tbh.:lol
TeyshaBlue
03-06-2012, 12:53 PM
You'd learn to recognize that particular soapbox fairly quickly. It's usually occupied by DarrinS.
TeyshaBlue
03-06-2012, 12:54 PM
Anyone with a room temperature IQ can grok that coyotes_geek ain't exactly trendy.:rollin
coyotes_geek
03-06-2012, 01:26 PM
Oh great, the "I'm a trendy moderate who's not a Democrat or Republican!" soapbox.
Nothing like a "trendy moderate" with a soapbox to take the fun out of a "your team sucks, my team rules" pom-pom waiving contest. Perhaps darrin, jacob or WC would be willing to accomodate you.
coyotes_geek
03-06-2012, 01:27 PM
Anyone with a room temperature IQ can grok that coyotes_geek ain't exactly trendy.:rollin
:lol This is about the railgun thread, right?
jack sommerset
03-06-2012, 01:40 PM
Giving Barrack another term would be like giving Murdoff another shot at your investments.
"claiming to be wise, they became fools"
Winehole23
03-06-2012, 01:52 PM
Murdoff? You mean Bernie Madoff?
jack sommerset
03-06-2012, 01:57 PM
Totally, thank you.
"May the Lord, the God of Israel, under whose wings you have come to take refuge, reward you fully for what you have done"
ChumpDumper
03-06-2012, 01:58 PM
Is this supposed to be funny or are you all about the Jesus now?
better luck next time trying to argue that a brief conflict in Libya that cost no American lives makes Obama like Bush
strawman #2. poor dudes are getting their ass kicked by you.
Reread your post saying McCain would've been "much more like Bush"; reread mine saying "that's pretty much impossible"; reread yours (uninformed) saying "Obama has gotten into less wars [than McCain would have]" even though both would have followed the Bush timetable; reread mine saying Obama has gotten into or out of the same amount of wars as either McCain or another president would have, PLUS Libya; and then get emotionally charged (IE asshurt), and maybe argue another strawman, finally followed by commit an ad hominem fallacy when you call me a bean3r like usual because that's the best you've got.
I've spelled it out for you; if you don't understand your own emotionally charged, purely speculative 'argument' enough to follow it up and understand mine and others' disagreements with it (which you haven't thus far) then that is not our problem, but yours.
hitmanyr2k
03-06-2012, 08:26 PM
When it comes to fighting terrorism and dealing with national security and foreign policy, Bush and Obama are very similar.
People bashed the shit out of Bush 24/7 when he was president but now that he's gone and Barry is the new man in charge, people act like it's a crime to bash Obama. The hypocrisy is hilarious.
People bashed Bush because he took his eye off the ball. Plain and simple. Bush was just fine and had the support of America after 9/11 but for some reason one war wasn't enough and he decided to turn his attention to Iraq. Brilliant move. That's where everything shifted and the people turned against him. If a president and his administration are dumb enough to go out and make case after case for rushing into war, puts troops in harm's way while telling the enemy to "bring it on" from the comfort of the white house, blows up the country, makes the American taxpayers foot the bill to rebuild the shit, then has no exit strategy while troops are getting killed by the guys he told to "bring it on" you're going to have quite a few angry people bash your stupid ass. If Obama did something that fuckin dumb he would have gotten the same ridicule. Thankfully, Obama isn't THAT stupid.
Jacob1983
03-07-2012, 03:23 AM
Bush was a dumbass and caused massive damage to America and the entire world but at least he was able to get shit done. Obama hasn't accomplished anything as president. Bush started two wars, added a department of the federal government, and may have possibly been behind 9/11.
President Bush = President Obama
Bush 2000 > Obama 2008
If Bush had been like his year 2000 version, he would have been a good president.
ChumpDumper
03-07-2012, 03:45 AM
You just said a president you think could be behind the 9/11 attacks is not the worst president in history.
Twat.
Jacob1983
03-07-2012, 06:06 AM
Dumper, will you give me a dollar every time you call me a twat? I could really use a vacation.
If Bush was behind 9/11, is he really the worst president ever? If he was behind 9/11, that would mean that people underestimated his intelligence. If Bush and Cheney were behind 9/11, wouldn't they make them evil geniuses?
ChumpDumper
03-07-2012, 06:12 AM
Dumper, will you give me a dollar every time you call me a twat? I could really use a vacation.Why? What's wrong with it?
If Bush was behind 9/11, is he really the worst president ever? If he was behind 9/11, that would mean that people underestimated his intelligence. If Bush and Cheney were behind 9/11, wouldn't they make them evil geniuses?:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rolli n:rollin
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