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SA210
03-02-2012, 11:32 AM
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DarrinS
03-02-2012, 11:38 AM
Not this shit again.

boutons_deux
03-02-2012, 11:41 AM
Crazy-assed bitch Taitz and America's Ugliest, Corruptest Sheriff, great work.

America loves and thanks you.

ChumpDumper
03-02-2012, 12:00 PM
Layers!

Experts!

coyotes_geek
03-02-2012, 12:04 PM
Perry or Sherriff Joe? Who's the bigger embarrassment to their constituents?

boutons_deux
03-02-2012, 12:22 PM
Sheriff Joe’s Birther Squad Concludes Obama’s Birth Certificate Is A ‘Forgery And Fraud’

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/JoePinkUnderwear-e1330635896934.jpg

Joe Arpaio, the Arizona Sheriff who has drawn the interest of Republican presidential candidates and federal criminal prosecutors alike, revealed the results of his months-long investigation into President Obama’s birth certificate today and concluded that the document is mostly likely forged. The Maricopa County Sheriff even has a “person of interest,” though he refused to reveal the name. “A fraud has been committed,” Arpaio’s volunteer chief investigator warned. “The document is fake.”

In a lengthy and delirious press conference that relied on a mix of pseudo-science and innuendo, Arpaio and his dower band of volunteer investigators rolled out a series of films that depict documents being Xeroxed and scanned into Adobe software to supposedly show that someone forged Obama’s birth certificate. “This is serious. This is very serious,” the investigator said. The probe was apparently also aided by serial fabulist Jerome Corsi, of the birther-obsessed website WorldNetDaily.

At the close of the event, Arpaio acknowledged that many would see his investigation as “silly, pointless, trite,” but said, “I hope that maybe you’ll have a change of opinion.”

However, Arpaio and his “posse” not only expect Americans to believe that the president forged his birth certificate, but that he did a really terrible job of it. Apraio’s posse uncovered so many apparent errors hiding in plain sight that it seems impossible no one would have found them before.

Arpaio was careful to say he is not accusing the president of breaking the law, but said there is “enough evidence to support probable cause.” He’s considering calling for a Congressional investigation or other law enforcement probe. A Republican state lawmaker was even on hand the lend his credibility, and said several of his colleagues were also interested in perusing the matter.

Perhaps this is not surprising from a man embroiled in so many scandals that there’s a 6,000 word Wikipedia article dedicated to “Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office controversies.” Some will say that Arpaio should probably be using his office’s taxpayer-funded resources to investigate the hundreds of child sex-crimes that he and his deputies neglected, but that’s a matter for Maricopa County voters.

What’s more troubling is that so many mainstream Republicans, especially those running president, have been so eager to associate themselves with Arpaio.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/01/435878/sheriff-joe-birther-investigation/

desflood
03-02-2012, 12:30 PM
Jesus, people, let it go already. :rolleyes

Winehole23
03-02-2012, 12:33 PM
??http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178270&highlight=birth+certificate+obama&page=2

Winehole23
03-02-2012, 12:49 PM
Stupid should be painful.never goes out of style, tbh

ElNono
03-02-2012, 01:23 PM
smh

vy65
03-02-2012, 01:29 PM
Phoenix might have the best looking female news anchors I e'er seen

Winehole23
03-02-2012, 01:43 PM
I e'er seenIn verse, dropping consonants is all about saving the meter, but here it does seem to convey the intended sense of smittenness. No blame.

boutons_deux
03-02-2012, 02:26 PM
other perps: Jerome Corsi, WND, all of them bottom-dwelling scumbags. Of course, they are all highly valued and believed by red-state bubbas and other fucktards.

Wild Cobra
03-02-2012, 03:53 PM
Not this shit again.

Of course it is fabricated. He may have or had had a real one. However, the one posted online was absolutely suspect.

Winehole23
03-02-2012, 03:55 PM
how so, sensei?

ChumpDumper
03-02-2012, 03:56 PM
Of course it is fabricated. He may have or had had a real one. However, the one posted online was absolutely suspect.Have you ever changed the parts of a scanner?

Wild Cobra
03-02-2012, 03:57 PM
Jesus, people, let it go already. :rolleyes
If he is not a native born citizen, he is a fake president. There is now probable cause to go after this issue.

ChumpDumper
03-02-2012, 04:00 PM
If he is not a native born citizen, he is a fake president. There is now probable cause to go after this issue.Show us the legal probable cause here, counselor.

TeyshaBlue
03-02-2012, 04:08 PM
lol probable cause

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03-02-2012, 04:13 PM
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MannyIsGod
03-02-2012, 04:13 PM
:lmao

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03-02-2012, 04:14 PM
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Winehole23
03-02-2012, 04:25 PM
lol probable cause Arpaio's echo.

"Probable cause" only means in this case that some colorable pretext for yet another investigation into the veracity of Obama's birth records has been furnished. A county official in Arizona thinks it's worth looking into a little deeper.

At his point I'm guessing the investigations will not stop anytime before the appellants get the desired result, or Obama leaves office, whichever comes first.

Wild Cobra Kai
03-02-2012, 09:22 PM
Arapaio running scared from his own investigation, trying to deflect attention. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Stringer_Bell
03-02-2012, 10:14 PM
Well, at least WC and I are logical enough to accept that Obama being a fake President is a much bigger deal than the local sex crimes that went without follow-up. Shit, I almost wished I lived in AZ so I could vote for him - thankfully he won't need the extra vote since this investigation shows how much Sheriff Joe cares about justice. I mean, we finally got the answers we've been looking for! :)

To the haters, don't be mad that the sex crime victims didn't mobilize to ask for an investigation like the 250 Tea Party activists did on this issue. Want something done?...prove you got numbers to show up to the polls!

Goran Dragic
03-02-2012, 10:22 PM
:lmao believing anything that nut Joe Arpaio says

spursncowboys
03-02-2012, 10:30 PM
prove them wrong... BHO responded by not responding.

Goran Dragic
03-03-2012, 12:09 AM
prove them wrong... BHO responded by not responding.
By this logic W. responded by not responding to the 9/11 truthers

Winehole23
03-03-2012, 02:33 AM
http://www.bestofbucerias.com/upload/image/istockphoto/ist2_5226328-landing-the-big-one.jpg

ChumpDumper
03-03-2012, 03:23 AM
prove them wrong... BHO responded by not responding.Prove them right....

Show us the layers!

Wild Cobra
03-03-2012, 10:01 AM
Hopefully this will be the last time I or anyone will have to write this:

The President has to be a "natural born citizen" - not a "native born citizen" as Wild Cobra so eloquently babbled.

"Natural born citizen" means either one of his parents was a US citizen, OR ELSE he was born in the US.

Thus -- Obama could have been conceived by Muhammad himself, and born inside a madrassa on Mars with Osama bin Laden and the Ayatollah acting as midwives -- AND HE WOULD STILL BE A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN BECAUSE HIS MOTHER ANN DUNHAM WAS BORN IN KANSAS AND IS A US CITIZEN.


Fuck. Shit. Damn. Fuck.
So I used the wrong phrase. However:

Black's Law Dictionary

Black's Law Dictionary (9th Edition) defines "Natural Born Citizen" as "A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government."

spursncowboys
03-03-2012, 05:35 PM
The op was about his birth certificate and not about his legitimacy for being president. I don't have a dog in this fight but the man in the video made some valid arguments.

boutons_deux
03-03-2012, 06:21 PM
oh, such a fine discriminator you are.

the only objective of trashing his birth cert is to render his presidency illegitimate.

ChumpDumper
03-03-2012, 08:44 PM
The op was about his birth certificate and not about his legitimacy for being president. I don't have a dog in this fight but the man in the video made some valid arguments.Like what?

List what is valid to you.

spursncowboys
03-03-2012, 10:30 PM
the valid argument that the birth certificate was created on a computer and never was an actual piece of paper. That the seal of approval was not on the actual paper and was overlayed ontop of the created program.

Jacob1983
03-04-2012, 01:21 AM
If this was true, who the fuck would be president since Obama would not be eligible to be president? McCain, Biden, Stephen Colbert?

ChumpDumper
03-04-2012, 02:13 AM
the valid argument that the birth certificate was created on a computer and never was an actual piece of paper. That the seal of approval was not on the actual paper and was overlayed ontop of the created program.:lmao

You're a gullible idiot.

You'll believe anything you are told.

Blake
03-04-2012, 02:21 AM
posted 8 hours ago

PHOENIX — The lead investigator in an Arizona sheriff’s investigation into President Obama’s birth certificate is selling his report as a book.

Retired detective and volunteer Maricopa County sheriff’s posse member Mike Zullo is listed as the co-author of “A Question of Eligibility,” an e-book for sale through Amazon and Barnes and Noble.

The book is a copy of the investigation findings presented to the press Thursday.

Zullo’s co-author is Jerome Corsi, a well-known political conspiracy writer........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/lead-investigator-in-arizona-sheriffs-obama-birth-certificate-probe-selling-report-as-book/2012/03/03/gIQA9AyIpR_story.html

Nbadan
03-04-2012, 02:21 AM
Big surprise, Corsi is behind this whole thing...


PHOENIX — The lead investigator in an Arizona sheriff's investigation into President Obama's birth certificate is selling his report as a book.

Retired detective and volunteer Maricopa County sheriff's posse member Mike Zullo is listed as the co-author of "A Question of Eligibility," an e-book for sale through Amazon and Barnes and Noble.

The book is a copy of the investigation findings presented to the press Thursday.

Zullo's co-author is Jerome Corsi, a well-known political conspiracy writer.


Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57390095/ariz-sheriffs-obama-investigator-selling-book/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cbsnews%2Ffeed+%28CBSNews.com %29

Blake
03-04-2012, 02:23 AM
Jerome Robert Corsi (born August 31, 1946) is an American author, political commentator and conspiracy theorist[1][2] best known for his two New York Times bestselling books: The Obama Nation and Unfit for Command (with co-author John O'Neill). Both books, the former written in 2008 and the latter in 2004, attacked Democratic presidential candidates and were criticized for including numerous inaccuracies.[3][4][5]

In other books and columns for conservative websites such as WorldNetDaily and Human Events, Corsi has discussed topics that are considered conspiracy theories in some circles, such as the alleged plans for a North American Government, the theory that President Barack Obama is not an American citizen;[6] criticism of the United States government for allegedly covering up information about the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001,[7] promoting the Abiogenic hypothesis of the origin of oil (arguing that oil is produced from chemical reactions in the Earth, in contrast to the general consensus of the scientific community that oil is produced from organic materials, such as zooplankton and algae), and alleged United States support of Iran in its attempts to develop nuclear weapons.[8][9][10]

.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome_Corsi

rofl

DMC
03-04-2012, 03:04 AM
:lmao

You're a gullible idiot.

You'll believe anything you are told.
Ergo he now believes he's a gullible idiot.

ChumpDumper
03-04-2012, 03:05 AM
Ergo he now believes he's a gullible idiot.:lol

I should have added "that confirms your bias" -- but I was lazy.

Wild Cobra
03-04-2012, 03:18 AM
If this was true, who the fuck would be president since Obama would not be eligible to be president? McCain, Biden, Stephen Colbert?
Well, Biden would step in, but I wonder if it would invalidate all legislation he signed into law...

ChumpDumper
03-04-2012, 03:20 AM
Well, Biden would step in, but I wonder if it would invalidate all legislation he signed into law...You should really read some of your stuff sometime.

boutons_deux
03-04-2012, 10:56 AM
In Positive Economic Sign, Republicans Starting to Say Obama Wasn’t Born in US Again

http://www.borowitzreport.com/wp-content/uploads/Birther-Index.jpg

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – In what some experts are calling a strong indicator of improvement in the economy, Republicans in recent weeks have begun renewing their claims that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

While most economists agree that any significant improvement in the US economy is generally accompanied by an uptick in GOP questions about Mr. Obama’s place of birth, there is now an econometric tool for measuring the increase in those claims: the so-called S & P Birther Index.

The Birther Index, established in 2008, measures the occurrences of such words as “birth certificate,” “Kenya,” and “wasn’t born here” in Republican statements about the President, and has proven to be a surprisingly reliable tool for tracking improvements in the economy.

Harland Dorinson, the economist who devised the S & P Birther Index, said that as the economy recovers the index also shows a strong surge in statements questioning the President’s Christianity.

“As unemployment started going down, we saw an increase in references to Mr. Obama being a Muslim,” he said. “This is generally a very bullish sign for the economy.”

But Mr. Dorinson was quick to add that while the surge in references to Mr. Obama being “an Islamic socialist born in a mud-hut in Nairobi” is encouraging, the economy is not out of the woods yet.

“We won’t be fully in a recovery until the Republicans start calling him a Wiccan,” he said. “And if they start saying he’s a Satanist who practices human sacrifice and drinks the blood of children, then it’ll be time to pop open the champagne.”

http://www.borowitzreport.com/

fraga
03-04-2012, 11:12 AM
I just love how these amateur expert dumb fucks think they actually know what they're talking about...

spursncowboys
03-04-2012, 02:12 PM
Prove them wrong

spursncowboys
03-04-2012, 02:15 PM
:lmao

You're a gullible idiot.

You'll believe anything you are told.

:lol coming from the worst poster on here.
You are the one blindly rejecting it. You didn't even watch the video. Like always dumping on yourself.

ChumpDumper
03-04-2012, 02:21 PM
:lol coming from the worst poster on here.
You are the one blindly rejecting it. You didn't even watch the video. Like always dumping on yourself.I've seen the argument before, months ago.

These people don't know how scanners work. Neither do you.

lol experts

spursncowboys
03-04-2012, 02:22 PM
Well then explain scanner expert...

ChumpDumper
03-04-2012, 02:35 PM
Well then explain scanner expert...It has been explained.

You are ignorant of the fact this has all been done before and you fell for this bumpkin and his attempt to divert attention from his scandal plagued regime.

ChumpDumper
03-04-2012, 02:44 PM
Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

“When you open it in Illustrator it looks like layers, but it doesn’t look like someone built it from scratch. If someone made a fake it wouldn’t look like this,” he said.“Some scanning software is trying to separate the background and the text and splitting element into layers and parts of layers.”

Tremblay also said that during the scanning process, instances where the software was unable to separate text fully from background led to the creation of a separate layer within the document. This could be places where a signature runs over the line of background, or typed characters touch the internal border of the document.

“I know that you can scan a document from a scanner most of the time it will appear as one piece, but that doesn’t mean that there’s no software that’s doing this kind of stuff,” he said, adding that it’s really quite common.

“I’d be more afraid it’d be fake if it was one in piece. It would be harder to check if it’s a good one if it’s a fake,” Tremblay said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/#ixzz1oB9eeRAi

Prove him wrong!

ChumpDumper
03-04-2012, 07:07 PM
Did you have trouble understanding this, SnC?

Borat Sagyidev
03-05-2012, 01:21 AM
Obama could be the miracle of science son of Abe Lincoln and Robert E Lee and a certain portion of the population will still make an issue of his citizenship because of his skin color.

Some people realize that this is an easy meal ticket, so hence we have this nice volunteer investigation for sale. Racists love to spend money on stupid shit, so who can blame them for charging? I wish I thought of it myself for this, I'd be on my way to be a millionaire. David Duke and Ann Coulter figured this out long ago. You don't have to have anything worthwhile in your publication, just an audience stupid enough to part with their hard earned but worthless dollars.

That Said.
My army unit was more than half composed of minority groups, including a few muslims, The fact that these guys put their life on the light for a country that tolerates this racist in the closet shit is ridiculous.

When China become the worlds largest economy this decade and starts exerting that influence taking claim to oil, water and air, I doubt they will give a damn about anyones white supremacist aspirations, Sheriff Joe or Joe six pack. So have fun while it lasts folks, the rest of Americans not in make-believe land are already working to make the transition easier for you.

Obama should send troops into this guys jurisdiction and remove his power by force. His policies and practices are unconstitutional, but more importantly racist and detrimental to society which includes American citizens. 400 sex-crimes cases in his jurisdiction over a three-year period ending in 2007 were either inadequately investigated or weren’t investigated at all by the sheriff’s office after the crimes were reported.

Guy deserves to be out a job quick. I predict you'll see exactly this on term #2.


Last Word, Jeb Bush
wtcLWrt9NeI

MaNuMaNiAc
03-05-2012, 07:29 AM
You know, for someone that is always claiming to want more facts before jumping to conclusions, you sure took no time concluding what these nutjobs are saying is true, considering the only proof that video offered was them saying they had it...

You're such a fucking hack Cobra, its ludicrous

Wild Cobra
03-05-2012, 10:05 AM
You know, for someone that is always claiming to want more facts before jumping to conclusions, you sure took no time concluding what these nutjobs are saying is true, considering the only proof that video offered was them saying they had it...

You're such a fucking hack Cobra, its ludicrous
I never said he wasn't a natural citizen now did I. Please find any time I said such a thing. I do wonder what would happen if somehow he wasn't.

ChumpDumper
03-05-2012, 01:01 PM
I would like for you to comment on the article in post 54 as well, WC.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5679378&postcount=54

Wild Cobra
03-05-2012, 04:41 PM
I would like for you to comment on the article in post 54 as well, WC.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5679378&postcount=54
You can always find someone willing to say what you want. How many others take his position?

Keep in mind. I am only saying it isn't a real birth certificate scanned. Hawaii may regenerate all requests for copies digitally. My copy of my Oregon birth certificate is not a copy of the original. I have the original too. What matters is the state seal.

Remember again, my original remarks when this came out. Releasing this only added merit to saying he isn't a citizen. It doesn't mean he isn't natural born.

ChumpDumper
03-05-2012, 04:44 PM
You can always find someone willing to say what you want. How many others take his position?You're saying that's what Fox News wanted him to say. That's a very stupid thing to say.

I would say everyone who knows how scanners and OCD software work take his position.

That, of course, does not include you nor the conspiracy nuts you idolize.

LnGrrrR
03-06-2012, 12:36 AM
If he is not a native born citizen, he is a fake president. There is now probable cause to go after this issue.

:lmao

What makes this "probable cause"? This should be good for a laugh.