Mccain had Joe the Plumber, Obama has Sandra the Slut

[cheguevara]

:lmao trying to turn an everyday Jane into a political tool

President Obama called Georgetown University Law School student Sandra Fluke to "offer his support to her" Friday, after conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh bashed the student activist as a "slut" and a "prostitute" because she is pushing for employers to pay for contraception.

:cry Obama = class

[boutons_deux]

Barry just making sure, with his phone call, that the greater public knows what a shitbag the Repug thought dictator Viagra Rush is, Rush who has intimidated all of Repug Congressmen into silent, grovelling compliance with his hate and slander.

There is no equivalence between Joe The Loser and Rush's slut/prostitute.

[cheguevara]

"The president called the student, Sandra Fluke, on Friday afternoon to express his disappointment in the "personal attacks" against her, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said"

:cry Rush what a meanie, Obama to the rescue

come on, it's a bad political move. as bad as Joe the Plumber.

[Winehole23]

Rush who has intimidated all of Repug Congressmen into silent, grovelling compliance with his hate and slander.Overblown. Rush is influential, but he isn't the pope...that would be Grover Norquist.

[ChumpDumper]

come on, it's a bad political move. as bad as Joe the Plumber.Not really, but you live in hope.

[DarrinS]

He should invite Rush and the slut to the WH for a beer and a "teachable moment".

[jack sommerset]

He should invite Rush and the slut to the WH for a beer and a "teachable moment".

Amen

[cheguevara]

fox: Limbaugh, on his show Friday, charged that Democrats were only elevating this issue because they're losing the argument on abortion.
"Now what's happening here politically, with the elevation of contraception here to such prominence in the national debate ... to me, it is evidence that the Democrats, the left have encountered utter political and moral failure on their decades-long abortion push," Limbaugh said.
Limbaugh also pointed out that Democrats had not spoken out about over-the-top comments made by other media personalities like Bill Maher, who tweeted that "Jesus just f----- Tim Tebow bad" during the Christmas Eve Broncos-Bills game and reportedly called Sarah Palin a "c---" last year.
"So I ask Jay Carney," Limbaugh said. "Will President Obama now give back the 1-million-dollar donation that Bill Maher gave his Super PAC?"


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/02/dems-urge-republicans-to-condemn-limbaugh-over-remarks-on-georgetown-student/#ixzz1nx80oYPe


oops, backfire

:lol Rush trolling the shit out of Obama now

what a fuckup by Obama's team. Whoever's idea was to call the slut should be fired ASAP

[cheguevara]

He should invite Rush and the slut to the WH for a beer and a "teachable moment".

menage a trois?

[ChumpDumper]

lol reportedly

lol thinking this is a big deal

[ChumpDumper]

"So I ask Jay Carney," Limbaugh said. "Will President Obama now give back the 1-million-dollar donation that Bill Maher gave his Super PAC?"[/B]It's not his to give back.

Rush is as ignorant as you are.

[Joe the plumber]

"The president called the student, Sandra Fluke, on Friday afternoon to express his disappointment in the "personal attacks" against her, White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said"

:cry Rush what a meanie, Obama to the rescue

come on, it's a bad political move. as bad as Joe the Plumber.

:flipoff chewguava

[Wild Cobra Kai]

menage a trois?

Obama and the "slut" both just threw up in their mouths a little bit...

[Goran Dragic]

:lol Limbaugh is saying Dems are losing the argument on abortion?

Until Roe Vs. Wade gets reversed, there is no argument

[Stringer_Bell]

He should invite Rush and the slut to the WH for a beer and a "teachable moment".

Shit, son. I'd invite her for a few beers and a bottle of whiskey with no worries if we get frisky cuz I'm fresh outta prophylactics and she's on the pill. Just raw dog until the election tbh.

[Nbadan]

:lol at the GOP hoping to win this by launching a war on women...

[Winehole23]

lol raw dog

[boutons_deux]

"launching a war on women"

Maybe even the extreme Repugs of PA realizing now that going all out with the misogyny will lose the female vote

Pennsylvania: Ultrasound Bill Is Shelved

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/02/us/pennsylvania-ultrasound-bill-is-shelved.html?_r=1&ref=us&pagewanted=print

[boutons_deux]

Rush caves to national (more like advertiser) pressure

Rush Limbaugh ‘Apologizes’ To Sandra Fluke

For over 20 years, I have illustrated the absurd with absurdity, three hours a day, five days a week. In this instance, I chose the wrong words in my analogy of the situation. I did not mean a personal attack on Ms. Fluke.

I think it is absolutely absurd that during these very serious political times, we are discussing personal sexual recreational activities before members of Congress. I personally do not agree that American citizens should pay for these social activities. What happened to personal responsibility and accountability? Where do we draw the line? If this is accepted as the norm, what will follow? Will we be debating if taxpayers should pay for new sneakers for all students that are interested in running to keep fit? In my monologue, I posited that it is not our business whatsoever to know what is going on in anyone’s bedroom nor do I think it is a topic that should reach a Presidential level.

My choice of words was not the best, and in the attempt to be humorous, I created a national stir. I sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for the insulting word choices.

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/03/03/437166/limbaugh-apologizes-fluke/

ah, so the gifted, eloquent, precise skewer of enemies simply admits to a bad choice of words? he didn't mean the words? for 3 days? :lol

RL, LIAR, shitbag, like the rest of hate radio.

RL, thought dictator to intimidated Repugs everywhere.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Amen

What did you do that makes you feel the need to go all judeo-christian? Did you do something egregious, are you in dire straits or you just trolling?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

fox: Limbaugh, on his show Friday, charged that Democrats were only elevating this issue because they're losing the argument on abortion.
"Now what's happening here politically, with the elevation of contraception here to such prominence in the national debate ... to me, it is evidence that the Democrats, the left have encountered utter political and moral failure on their decades-long abortion push," Limbaugh said.
Limbaugh also pointed out that Democrats had not spoken out about over-the-top comments made by other media personalities like Bill Maher, who tweeted that "Jesus just f----- Tim Tebow bad" during the Christmas Eve Broncos-Bills game and reportedly called Sarah Palin a "c---" last year.
"So I ask Jay Carney," Limbaugh said. "Will President Obama now give back the 1-million-dollar donation that Bill Maher gave his Super PAC?"


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/02/dems-urge-republicans-to-condemn-limbaugh-over-remarks-on-georgetown-student/#ixzz1nx80oYPe


oops, backfire

:lol Rush trolling the shit out of Obama now

what a fuckup by Obama's team. Whoever's idea was to call the slut should be fired ASAP

If Limbaugh is dictating more of the political narrative in an election year than the candidates that speaks to that and not anything to do with Obama. The baby boomer males that make up the preponderance of GOP constituents are going to rally around this type of bullshit regardless.

Maybe Limbaugh should run for president.

[spursncowboys]

:lol
He should invite Rush and the slut to the WH for a beer and a "teachable moment".

[spursncowboys]

:lol at the GOP hoping to win this by launching a war on women...

lol. This is total fail. I put on Morning Joe as I am getting ready for PT in the morning. Then when I get home the MSNBC machine is on. They were saying the same thing. Rush is pretty consistent on not wanting the government with social programs and definitely not taxing people to be able to give birth control out free. His point was that they want to have sex and then get birth control for free (condoms, and pills and morning after pill). I completely agree
This has nothing to do with woman and more to do with intrusive government at the expense of others.

[Jacob1983]

When did slut become a bad word? Why can't we some celebs have some damn balls and stick to their guns? Why can't there be a celeb that says something and sticks to it?

What does it say about Obama and America when the biggest issue is free birth control pills? I mean are you fuckin serious? The economy is still sucking ass and Israel wants to start a war with Iran. Aren't those two things more important than some spoiled uppity bitch getting her feelings hurt?

[ChumpDumper]

When did slut become a bad word?When was it a good word, you twat?

When did twat become a bad word, you twat?

You love being a twat, you twat.

You're bringing being a twat back in style, you twat.

[Spurs da champs]

The democrats didn't make up Joe the Plumber, The Maverick:lol did & the GOP has clearly made this contraception issue a self-inflicted wound this will defiantly cost them big the longer this goes on.

[Jacob1983]

I just think it's funny how America is such an overly sensitive country and how judgmental we are to each other. When shit like this happens, people are lining up to throw stones at the person that said the so-called bad word.

[ChumpDumper]

I just think it's funny how America is such an overly sensitive country and how judgmental we are to each other. When shit like this happens, people are lining up to throw stones at the person that said the so-called bad word.I just think it's funny how you're such a twat.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Rush backs down, the Benjamins win...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Limbaugh-apologizes-to-law-student-for-insult-3379704.php


By Saturday, six advertisers had pulled sponsorship of Limbaugh's show and Republicans distanced themselves from the comments.


If you ever needed proof that Rush is nothing but a blowhard for sale to the highest bidder, without a shred of conviction, this is it. If he had the courage of his convictions, he'd stand by them and ride out the hit of a few advertisers bolting his shit fest.

[Pelicans78]

Sandra may not be a slut, but she projects as one.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Sandra may not be a slut, but she projects as one.

What the fuck does that even mean? Without women willing to use birth control, you'd be using your right hand more than the current 90% of the time. :lol

She's a fucking law student that will be about 500% more rich and successful than your coon ass. "Slut" that, swamp rat.

[Spurminator]

I just think it's funny how America is such an overly sensitive country and how judgmental we are to each other. When shit like this happens, people are lining up to throw stones at the person that said the so-called bad word.

I'm confused, are you talking about throwing stones at Sandra or Rush?

[boutons_deux]

"overly sensitive"

calling a girl you don't know a slut and prostitute for 3 days on nationally syndicated radio without any "overly sensitive" reactions is where inflammatory-for-money hate radio and TV i are taking the country, lowering the bar towards non-stop incivility.

[spursncowboys]

What the fuck does that even mean? Without women willing to use birth control, you'd be using your right hand more than the current 90% of the time. :lol

She's a fucking law student that will be about 500% more rich and successful than your coon ass. "Slut" that, swamp rat.

She's an idiot for thinking someone else should pay for her contraception.

[ChumpDumper]

She's an idiot for thinking someone else should pay for her contraception.You're an idiot for thinking someone else should pay for your medical care.

[boutons_deux]

George Will Blasts GOP Candidates’ Meek Response To Rush: ‘They Want To Bomb Iran, But They’re Afraid Of Limbaugh’

Will mocked Speaker John Boehner for calling Rush’s language “inappropriate ” as comically weak, noting “using a salad fork for your entree, that’s inappropriate.”

http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/03/04/437316/george-will-rush-limbaugh-gop/

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No Repugs are at any risk or expense from starting a war with Iran, but they risk RL trashing them if they cross him.

[spursncowboys]

You're an idiot for thinking someone else should pay for your medical care.

contraception isn't medical care.

You're just an idiot!

[Goran Dragic]

contraception isn't medical care.
Did he say it was?

[ChumpDumper]

Did he say it was?He's too emotional to realize.

[Goran Dragic]

:lol spursncowboys
:lol :crygone but not forgotten:cry
:lol emotional

[boutons_deux]

contraception isn't medical care.

Other Reasons to Take the Pill

http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/features/other-reasons-to-take-the-pill

And since women (esp poor women, and with no medical insurance or pregnancy leave) often get fired or (professional) women get their careers sidetracked/stalled for getting pregnant, avoiding unwanted pregnancy is a fundamental economic reason.

[spursncowboys]

It's good the moron and the coward are together.

[EVAY]

She's an idiot for thinking someone else should pay for her contraception.

You are such a fool.

I don't often say that (to my knowledge I have never said it to anyone else here), but this time the lack of knowledge and the level of misinformation on this issue is astounding!

For example, endometriosis is a very very common problem for young women in America. It can be controlled very often by birth control pills. If it is not controlled, it can result in infertility, or extreme pain and debilitating periods that limit a woman's productivity. If not addressed, the only solution eventually ends up being surgery.

Surgery is a hell of lot more expensive than birth control pills.

Pregnancy and birth are a whole lot more expensive than birth control pills.

There are tons of reasons for birth control pills to be covered by insurance, and contraception is as good a reason as many others. It is not, however, the only one.

Insurance companies cover the cost of Viagra. Why the hell shouldn't they pay for the cost of birth control pills?

[EVAY]

Rush backs down, the Benjamins win...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/article/Limbaugh-apologizes-to-law-student-for-insult-3379704.php



If you ever needed proof that Rush is nothing but a blowhard for sale to the highest bidder, without a shred of conviction, this is it. If he had the courage of his convictions, he'd stand by them and ride out the hit of a few advertisers bolting his shit fest.

Significantly for Rush, it was only the loss of 5 advertisers and the very real threat of the weight of Georgetown Law crashing down on his fat head that finally got him to offer a fake apology. "I sincerely apologize" after three days of slandering a young woman. What an ass.

Personally, I hope Georgetown Law does take him on. I don't know if the apology is enough to prevent the slander finding, but I know that a few of the folks at Georgetown were drawing up the papers to begin the assault. I don't know if this will stop them or not, because I don't know the law. But man, it sure would be nice if he got smashed.

[spursncowboys]

You start off with an insult. Then build the credibility of your insult by stating you don't use that particular insult. Just because I don't agree with your level of government intervention doesn't make me a fool or ignorant of the subject at hand.

1. The subject at hand, 30 year old Sandra Fluke researched the Georgetown healthcare before enrolling, specifically looking for free contraception. Not paying a percentage of it but free. She enrolled with the intent of changing the policy. She has a degree in feminist gender & sexuality studies. She enrolled in a private Jesuit college, knowing before hand that they were against birth control as a contraception.

Endometriosis is not as common as you say. I think as a private citizen then medicine used to alleviate and fix a health problem should have coverage. However that is a strawman. We are talking about a liberal feminist who has spent her last ten years in college, who joined georgetown to specifically change their religious beliefs. She has been in college for ten years and with a handful of degrees, still wants someone else to pay for her pill which lets her have sex and not get pregnant. I guess if that is foolish to you, then I am fine with you thinking I am foolish.

[ChumpDumper]

ZOMG, she was in college!

She has degrees!

That slut!

[spursncowboys]

65800 worthless failed trolling. congrats.

[spursncowboys]

your WOW clan must be proud

[ChumpDumper]

ZOMG! Post count smack!

Have you figured out how scanners work yet?

[ChumpDumper]

WoW smack!

Never played the game!

[spursncowboys]

The fact that you had to state you never played the game lets me know you have played the game.

[ChumpDumper]

The fact that you had to state you never played the game lets me know you have played the game.The fact you tried to use it as smack tells me you are playing it now.

[Jacob1983]

I seriously doubt that this woman can't afford birth control pills. If she wants to be stingy with her money, why doesn't she make her man pay for it?

[AFBlue]

You're an idiot for thinking someone else should pay for your medical care.

I guarantee if you increase his base-pay to accommodate the monthly premium, he'd much rather have the flexibility of not having to see an on-post non-specialist for every issue and then waiting for clearance to see someone who may actually help him.

[AFBlue]

Insurance companies cover the cost of Viagra. Why the hell shouldn't they pay for the cost of birth control pills?

Insurance companies aren't mandated to provide Viagra. That bolded word makes all the difference in the world as it relates to this argument.

[EVAY]

Insurance companies aren't mandated to provide Viagra. That bolded word makes all the difference in the world as it relates to this argument.

So they cover Viagra voluntarily? So why is that any different than providing contraception coverage? Or std coverage? or any other kind of coverage? If you can take care of a problem for the guys, why can't you take care of a problem for the gals? I'm just sayin'

Seems to me that if they voluntarily take care of a guy's inability to keep it up, they could take care of why happens when they are successful in helping him keep it up long enough to impregnate a woman unless she's taking the pill.

[AFBlue]

So they cover Viagra voluntarily? So why is that any different than providing contraception coverage? Or std coverage?

One runs counter to the fundamental religious beliefs of an organization. I'm sure there are plenty of health care providers and employers that offer coverage of both Viagra and BC pills, but it should be their own choosing to do so...not a mandate from the federal government.

[Wild Cobra]

One runs counter to the fundamental religious beliefs of an organization. I'm sure there are plenty of health care providers and employers that offer coverage of both Viagra and BC pills, but it should be their own choosing to do so...not a mandate from the federal government.
Agreed.

With my employer, I have a choice of three insurance providers, and some provide different coverage levels. If insurance companies are told what to provide, what happens to competition? What happens to my choice?

[ploto]

If it truly is a moral issue, then they should not cover Viagra for single males.

[Wild Cobra]

If it truly is a moral issue, then they should not cover Viagra for single males.
I think insurance companies should cover what they think they have a market for. I think we should not dictate to insurance companies what to provide. I think the market will ask insurance for what it is willing to pay for.

Should we have a free market, or a communist dictated market?

[Jacob1983]

Why not just go to Planned Parenthood and bitch to them? Since Planned Parenthood is a champion of women's right, it should be willingly to help women that don't want to foot the bill when it comes to birth control pills and abortions.

[ChumpDumper]

Why not just go to Planned Parenthood and bitch to them? Since Planned Parenthood is a champion of women's right, it should be willingly to help women that don't want to foot the bill when it comes to birth control pills and abortions.Why not bitch to your insurer?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

One runs counter to the fundamental religious beliefs of an organization. I'm sure there are plenty of health care providers and employers that offer coverage of both Viagra and BC pills, but it should be their own choosing to do so...not a mandate from the federal government.

Granting religious organizations LLC status runs contrary to the notion of the separation of church and state..

[Jacob1983]

Dumper, why don't you pay for the birth control pills since you are heart broken over the issue?

[ChumpDumper]

Dumper, why don't you pay for the birth control pills since you are heart broken over the issue?If I was on the insurance plan, it wouldn't be a problem tbh.

[Winehole23]

One runs counter to the fundamental religious beliefs of an organization. I'm sure there are plenty of health care providers and employers that offer coverage of both Viagra and BC pills, but it should be their own choosing to do so...not a mandate from the federal government.Does it strike you as fair to cover boner pills but not birth control? Serious question...

[Wild Cobra]

Does it strike you as fair to cover boner pills but not birth control? Serious question...
Fair or not, it isn't mandated. It is a voluntary choice. Is it fair to mandate this by insurance companies?

[AFBlue]

Granting religious organizations LLC status runs contrary to the notion of the separation of church and state..

Corporations are still private institutions are they not?

[AFBlue]

Does it strike you as fair to cover boner pills but not birth control? Serious question...

No, but it should still be their choice.

I'm just wondering when the availability of contraceptives became so limited and the cost so prohibitive. I'm not anti-women or anti-sex, but we have a strong history of upholding the constitutional right for religious freedoms. I don't see why that has to change now...especially when those resources are so readily available and relatively cheap.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Corporations are still private institutions are they not?

LLC's are not wholly private no.

[boutons_deux]

"constitutional right for religious freedoms"

this fabricated controversy is not about religious freedom.

Employees pay for and OWN the insurance policy, which is between the insurer and the employee.

The contractual benefits cannot be annulled by the employer who is not party to the contract.

This fabricated controversy is more right-wing bullshit to slander Hussein, and govt, as anti-religion, and as anti-Constitutional.

[Bill_Brasky]

No, but it should still be their choice.

I'm just wondering when the availability of contraceptives became so limited and the cost so prohibitive. I'm not anti-women or anti-sex, but we have a strong history of upholding the constitutional right for religious freedoms. I don't see why that has to change now...especially when those resources are so readily available and relatively cheap.

What do religious freedoms have to do with contraception?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What do religious freedoms have to do with contraception?

Catholic preach that sex is only for procreation as ordained by God therefor contraceptives are against the will of God. Big families mean more peeps at church you know.

The issue i have is such companies getting legal protections through the fed and the LLC tag and then expecting to not have to abide by the same rules as everyone else.

I have a solution: make your LLC not be religious and the problem goes away. This si about controlling behavior in the marketplace for consumers and nothing to do with what churches can preach or whatever stupid shit want to believe.

[AFBlue]

The issue i have is such companies getting legal protections through the fed and the LLC tag and then expecting to not have to abide by the same rules as everyone else.

I have a solution: make your LLC not be religious and the problem goes away. This si about controlling behavior in the marketplace for consumers and nothing to do with what churches can preach or whatever stupid shit want to believe.

Not a realistic solution. Those religious organizations incorporate (pun intended) the values and beliefs in the schools and hospitals they run. Asking them to eschew those religious values because they want to incorporate, literally, just doesn't seem plausible.

[AFBlue]

"constitutional right for religious freedoms"

this fabricated controversy is not about religious freedom.

Employees pay for and OWN the insurance policy, which is between the insurer and the employee.

The contractual benefits cannot be annulled by the employer who is not party to the contract.

This fabricated controversy is more right-wing bullshit to slander Hussein, and govt, as anti-religion, and as anti-Constitutional.

Except that the employer sponsors the insurance so the individual can enjoy increased coverage with relatively low premiums. Only an individual health care plan is truly between the individual and the provider.