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Rapper
03-03-2012, 08:01 PM
LOS ANGELES -- Lakers guard Kobe Bryant has always been lauded for his self-motivation and drive to be the best. It's a good thing he has that internal ambition, because according to Bryant, he's gone through his 16-year career without a true rival on the exterior to push him to succeed.

"I didn't have one," Bryant said after scoring 38 points in the Lakers' 115-107 win over the Sacramento Kings on Friday.



The Lakers play host to the Miami Heat on Sunday. Bryant called it a "measuring stick" game against Miami, which has the third-best record in the league at 28-8 and is 3-0 against Bryant and the Lakers since "The Decision."


I get up for everybody just the same, to be honest. It's hard for me to turn my meter up any higher than it normally is.

-- Kobe Bryant
Despite Bryant's acknowledging that it's not just another game, he wouldn't characterize his relationship with LeBron James as a rivalry.


"Not for me," Bryant said. "I get up for everybody just the same, to be honest. It's hard for me to turn my meter up any higher than it normally is."

OK, Bryant was asked, how about Dwyane Wade? After all, Wade plays shooting guard just as Bryant does, Wade has one Finals MVP trophy to Bryant's two, and Wade has to be close to as competitive as Bryant or else he wouldn't have given Bryant that hard foul across the face in the All-Star Game.


"He's too young," Bryant said. "He's too young. When I came into the league, he was in elementary school."

Bryant is three years older than Wade, but was already a seven-year veteran when Wade was drafted in 2003.


Bryant said it is "a little late in the game" for him to develop a rivalry with any current NBA player, so instead he is chasing names in the record books rather than in box scores from the 2011-12 season.


"At this point my rivals, in terms of what I have left to accomplish in my career, (left the game) when Magic (Johnson) and Michael (Jordan) retired in '98," Bryant said, referring to the second of Jordan's three retirements that came after he won his sixth and final championship with the Chicago Bulls. "That's it. In terms of what I'm looking to accomplish, that's about it."

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Bryant has five championships, tied with Johnson -- who won all of his with the Lakers -- and is one ring behind Jordan. Earlier in the season, Bryant said he was "obsessed" with adding another championship to his collection.


"What I have left to accomplish, those players retired a long time ago," Bryant said.


The San Antonio Spurs' Tim Duncan won four championships to Bryant's five throughout their shared careers, but Bryant said while the Spurs might have qualified as a team rival to his Lakers, Duncan's individual rivalry came against Shaquille O'Neal as a fellow big man.

"He was never in my position," Bryant said. "He was more Shaq's rival than mine. As a team, the Spurs were always a team that we had to go through. So from that standpoint, yes, but in terms of personally, no. I've outgrown them all, from A.I. (Allen Iverson) when I first came in to (Tracy) McGrady to Vince Carter and so forth and so on."

Bryant said that he developed the desire to win multiple championships from an early age.

"It's always what I want to accomplish," Bryant said. "That's what you set your goals at. Growing up, watching them, they've always won multiple championships and that was always something that I felt like must be done. So, my goal originally when I was a kid and so forth, and when I was a teenager, always started from gauging them."

That gives James and Bryant something in common, of course, even though James was ridiculed for his now-infamous, made-for-TV interview when he declared he wanted to win "not four, not five, not six, not seven ..." championships with the Miami Heat.

James was under the microscope again Friday after putting up 35 points, 10 rebounds, six assists and three blocked shots against the Utah Jazz in helping to overcome an 18-point deficit, but he passed off to Udonis Haslem with the outcome on the line. Haslem missed a potential game-winning shot in the Heat's 99-98 loss.

The NBA All-Star Game ended in similar fashion. Instead of attempting the potential game-winning shot with Bryant guarding him, James' pass to Carmelo Anthony was stolen in the waning seconds of a tight game. Bryant heckled James at the time, imploring him to shoot the ball, but said on Friday he only did that because he wanted the duty of defending the player who was taking the last shot.

"I think everybody kind of took it out of context in terms of his performance last year in the Finals, like I was out there thinking about that or something," Bryant said. "It was moreso the challenge that I wanted. I wanted him to try to score. I wanted that challenge (to guard him). So, I was more upset than anything that I didn't get a chance to face that."

Bryant might not get to face James in a last-second scoring situation Sunday, but he'll certainly see plenty of him for 48 minutes -- whether he thinks of him as a rival or not.

"The big test is Sunday," Bryant said. "I'm very interested to see how we respond to that challenge."

DMC
03-03-2012, 08:06 PM
Kobe: "I get up for everyone"

Dumbass: "what about Wade?'

Kobe: "everyone"

Dumbass: "What about Lebron?"

Kobe: :rolleyes

Rapper
03-03-2012, 08:11 PM
I think kobe is right. in SG position. AI.TMAC and Carter all of them never won a chamionship so they can not be compared with Kobe in this case

DMC
03-03-2012, 08:12 PM
Manu would be the closest in terms of success as a SG. No one has done much outside of SA and LA in the last 13 years.

jermaine
03-03-2012, 08:48 PM
I'm not a Kobe fan but the boy got swagg that he deserves to have. He has done it(with help or however you view it). He has rings an rings. He's being doing it at a high level for a long time now. Ginobili is the closest thing to Kobe an he's far far ahead of nobili. He's durable as hell an always try to play thru injuries. While nobili stays hurt an never plays a full season. Labrick is probably the best NBA player on the planet, but until he wins 6 on 7 championships. He'll never be on Kobes level. That's the measuring stick for Labrick.

pgardn
03-03-2012, 09:01 PM
I really dont like the guy but he has done everything possible to make himself a better player. When he was skinny he lifted and his game got better. If he did not shoot well he worked on it constantly.

He is to be admired for his toughness and his devotion.

But he is still an a-hole. I also despised how he cried when the Lakers were bad and was ready to jump ship. I guess that is possibly cupcake's fault for not informing him that they were working to get Gasol.

slick'81
03-03-2012, 09:03 PM
arrogant prick

Arcadian
03-03-2012, 09:13 PM
Tim Duncan = Player of the Decade (2000-2009)

elemento
03-03-2012, 09:14 PM
Nobody cares about what Robin thinks

eyeh8u
03-03-2012, 09:16 PM
the difference between Kobe and Jordan is that Jordan never had to say anything like this, everyone would say it for him. Kobe is better than all his contemporaries but still has an inferiority complex, he is so obsessed with 6 , as if 6 will get him equality. If Jordan retired with after he won 5 or 4 they would still call him the best, hell the first retirement when he only had 3 most people called him the GOAT.

therealtruth
03-03-2012, 09:32 PM
the difference between Kobe and Jordan is that Jordan never had to say anything like this, everyone would say it for him. Kobe is better than all his contemporaries but still has an inferiority complex, he is so obsessed with 6 , as if 6 will get him equality. If Jordan retired with after he won 5 or 4 they would still call him the best, hell the first retirement when he only had 3 most people called him the GOAT.

The difference is when Jordan learned how to win he never lost.

eyeh8u
03-03-2012, 09:35 PM
The difference is when Jordan learned how to win he never lost.

he lost to penny and the magic the 95 playoffs when he came back

silverblk mystix
03-03-2012, 09:43 PM
this thread sucks....fuck kobe ...lock this shit up...

Ryan Fitzpatrick
03-03-2012, 09:56 PM
this thread sucks

so you keep it at the top?:lol

DMC
03-03-2012, 11:00 PM
so you keep it at the top?:lol

"nuh uh you did"

ambchang
03-03-2012, 11:20 PM
Only idiots would measure individual success with team accomplishments like rings.

lefty
03-03-2012, 11:49 PM
Tmac and VC would have won titles with Shaq

Kobe :lmao

lefty
03-03-2012, 11:53 PM
I'm not a Kobe fan but the boy got swagg that he deserves to have. He has done it(with help or however you view it). He has rings an rings. He's being doing it at a high level for a long time now. Ginobili is the closest thing to Kobe an he's far far ahead of nobili. He's durable as hell an always try to play thru injuries. While nobili stays hurt an never plays a full season. Labrick is probably the best NBA player on the planet, but until he wins 6 on 7 championships. He'll never be on Kobes level. That's the measuring stick for Labrick.

Kobe is more durable because he doesnt play as hard as Manu

Manu dives for lose balls, draws charges against bigger guys, plays D on every posession (unlike Kobe who plays D only when he wants to)

all_heart
03-04-2012, 12:34 AM
Kobe's biggest rival was probably Shaq...

Spurs da champs
03-04-2012, 02:54 AM
Tmac and VC would have won titles with Shaq

Kobe :lmao

TMAC for sure if he stayed healthy.

DMC
03-04-2012, 02:55 AM
Kobe is more durable because he doesnt play as hard as Manu

Manu dives for lose balls, draws charges against bigger guys, plays D on every posession (unlike Kobe who plays D only when he wants to)
This is true. Although Kobe does a good job guarding perimeter players, he just stands around most of the time. Manu is very active, too much so for my comfort.

Anonymous Cowherd
03-04-2012, 07:06 AM
When you're a lottery pick traded into the Lakers, success will probably come a fair bit easier than if you actually stay with the lottery team you're drafted by

#Wade #Duncan #LeBron #MJ #Iverson

Cane
03-04-2012, 08:59 AM
Sucks for Kobe that a non rival like LeBron's going to break just about every accomplishment he's gotten

Anonymous Cowherd
03-04-2012, 09:17 AM
doubt LeBron will get as many rings as Kobe, because he stayed in Cleveland for seven fricking years doing it solo, before joining an already-in-contention team

Killakobe81
03-04-2012, 11:12 AM
Kobe's ego is outta control but he speaks truthfully. I don't get amb they asked him about rivals he said all he cares about is rings. Pretty sure Tim would say. Same about KG or Dirk. No way he talks about outlasting them all by name. Kobe could of said he outscored them all but then u would've said he is a chucker ...

Cane
03-04-2012, 11:47 AM
doubt LeBron will get as many rings as Kobe, because he stayed in Cleveland for seven fricking years doing it solo, before joining an already-in-contention team

True but he'll probably rival Kobe in Finals MVPs and will break just about every other accomplishment that Kobe's done, fwiw

TJastal
03-04-2012, 01:20 PM
I really dont like the guy but he has done everything possible to make himself a better player. When he was skinny he lifted and his game got better. If he did not shoot well he worked on it constantly.

He is to be admired for his toughness and his devotion.

But he is still an a-hole. I also despised how he cried when the Lakers were bad and was ready to jump ship. I guess that is possibly cupcake's fault for not informing him that they were working to get Gasol.

+1

Hard not to admire the talent, dedication, drive, etc.. but he was always a bastard in terms of committing the most heinous dirty plays, sucker punches/kicks/etc of any player I've ever seen play the game. I'm sure part of it was due to the competitive nature, but the fact that he's still doing that shit in his 30's shows just how much of an immature prick he really is. Most players would have grown up by then.

Ryan Fitzpatrick
03-04-2012, 01:27 PM
+1

Hard not to admire the talent, dedication, drive, etc.. but he was always a bastard in terms of committing the most heinous dirty plays, sucker punches/kicks/etc of any player I've ever seen play the game. I'm sure part of it was due to the competitive nature, but the fact that he's still doing that shit in his 30's shows just how much of an immature prick he really is. Most players would have grown up by then.

:lmao:lmao:lmao

If only he could be as classy as a certain player who kicked players in the face, kneed them in the balls, and habitually planted his foot under a shooter's landing.

Ignorant Spurfan:lmao:lmao:lmao

Juggity
03-04-2012, 01:37 PM
Kobe's inflated sense of self-worth far exceeds the several accomplishments of his career.

DMC
03-04-2012, 02:13 PM
:lmao:lmao:lmao

If only he could be as classy as a certain player who kicked players in the face, kneed them in the balls, and habitually planted his foot under a shooter's landing.

Ignorant Spurfan:lmao:lmao:lmao
I was kinda wondering who he was referring to. Thought maybe I was in the bowtie thread by mistake.

TheCerebral1
03-04-2012, 04:20 PM
I think kobe is right. in SG position. AI.TMAC and Carter all of them never won a chamionship so they can not be compared with Kobe in this case

T-Mac is a worthless comparison. The guy has never done anything.

GeorgiaSpursFan
03-04-2012, 06:19 PM
I was kinda wondering who he was referring to. Thought maybe I was in the bowtie thread by mistake.

For a while I thought he was talking about J. Terry, except he left out getting caught punching multiple opponents in the junk.:ihit:nope

JRHernandez88
03-05-2012, 11:21 AM
Kobe's biggest rival was probably Shaq...
That's what I we thinking. And lmao at him saying wade was still in elementary school when he was drafted.:lol

JRHernandez88
03-05-2012, 11:22 AM
The difference is when Jordan learned how to win he never lost.

Nice word play Yo I like that.:toast

lefty
03-05-2012, 11:42 AM
I do like those Kobe system commercials though

TJastal
03-05-2012, 11:48 AM
:lmao:lmao:lmao

If only he could be as classy as a certain player who kicked players in the face, kneed them in the balls, and habitually planted his foot under a shooter's landing.

Ignorant Spurfan:lmao:lmao:lmao

:lmao :lmao :lmao @ kobefan losing $500 betting on the heat last night