The Real Delegate Score: Mitt Romney 93, Ron Paul 82

[Galileo]

The Real Delegate Score: Mitt Romney 93, Ron Paul 82

Romney: 93
Paul: 82
Gingrich: 29
Santorum: 25
Unpledged: 14

http://www.dailypaul.com/214504/the-real-delegate-score-romney-93-paul-82

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UPDATE:

Possible Delegate Counts So Far

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content.php?1436-Reality-Check-The-Truth-Behind-The-Republican-Delegate-Numbers-the-youtube

WATCH VIDEO:

UDATE 2:

Reality Check: The real Republican delegate numbers (VIDEO)

WATCH VIDEO:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content.php?1436-Reality-Check-The-Truth-Behind-The-Republican-Delegate-Numbers-the-youtube

UPDATE 3:

Ron Paul on Delegate Math

"In fact, while I didn't win any state's straw polls, my team expects me to win a plurality of delegates in at least three states, as well as outright majorities in two more of the states that have already started their process."

http://blogs.ajc.com/jamie-dupree-washington-insider/2012/03/09/ron-paul-on-delegate-math/

:lol

[SA210]

::crickets::

[Galileo]

Here is another estimate of delegates, this person estimates Paul has 143 delegates: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?364870-Possible-Delegate-Counts-So-Far

B-) cool

[Winehole23]

a sunny forecast is quickly dispelled by the actual weather

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So i suppose that every media outlet in the country is lying with their delegate counts as well as being a part of some nationwide conspiracy involving thousands of people directly reporting knowingly false information.

The post is bad he starts going state by state and then proceeds to to guess on each states assessment.

[Wild Cobra]

We really don't know the delegate count until they all actually place their vote. It's too soon.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well seeing that the delegates are either winner take all or district based; its not all that hard to figure out. This is like hoping that the electors in the electoral college are going to go rogue. Its wishful thinking unfounded nonsense: something, WC, you should be more than familiar with. If you believe it enough maybe it will be true, huh?

[SA210]

So i suppose that every media outlet in the country is lying with their delegate counts as well as being a part of some nationwide conspiracy involving thousands of people directly reporting knowingly false information.



Yes

[Wild Cobra]

Fuzzy, I don't recall the terminology, but some delegates are suppose to vote by the voters will. there are still many in most states that are uncommitted, and can vote differently than the elections show.

[ChumpDumper]

Yes:lmao

[SA210]

cadUBq85ecY

:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy, I don't recall the terminology, but some delegates are suppose to vote by the voters will. there are still many in most states that are uncommitted, and can vote differently than the elections show.

No shit wtf do you think caucuses are for? And the members of the electoral college can vote whatever they want as well. only problem is that in the entire history of presidential elections the number that have done it can be counted on a single hand.

In some states delegates are determined at the county level but the delegates are chosen from supporters of a particular candidate within that district or county. hoping that all those districts that voted for the Romney support network had people only masquerading as Romney supporters is stupid ass wishful thinking.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes

So the Des Moines Register when they have people at the caucuses was lying as was the New Hampshire press and then Arizona and Detroit Free Press. They are all in on it as are all of the various national media outlets ranging from the National Review to MSNBC. All the radio folks too?

All of the individual people reporting from the districts and newsrooms? None of them have come forward?

[Wild Cobra]

Better read this:

Wiki: Republican Party presidential primaries, 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_primaries)

Insiders from Paul's campaign have claimed securing most of the delegates who are under a "nonbinding" status.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Better read this:

Wiki: Republican Party presidential primaries, 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_primaries)

Insiders from Paul's campaign have claimed securing most of the delegates who are under a "nonbinding" status.

There is no law prohibiting the delegates themselves from speaking. Quite the contrary as they are the GOP leaders of their area. You go ahead and believe the 'insiders' referenced on a wiki page that everyone else is lying.

[Wild Cobra]

There is no law prohibiting the delegates themselves from speaking. Quite the contrary as they are the GOP leaders of their area. You go ahead and believe the 'insiders' referenced on a wiki page that everyone else is lying.

Did I say I believe them? I think not. I said, that said he had more delatates, and provided a reference to why they could be right.

Why do you always twist what people say?

Are you really that twisted? maybe you just have serious bias and lack of comprehension.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Did I say I believe them? I think not. I said, that said he had more delatates, and provided a reference to why they could be right.

Why do you always twist what people say?

Are you really that twisted? maybe you just have serious bias and lack of comprehension.

You cited a wiki page and agreed with what they were saying. Now you are saying you do not believe them followed by "I said, that said he had more delatates" which is exactly what they would have you believe.

You suck at dissembling.

[Wild Cobra]

You cited a wiki page and agreed with what they were saying. Now you are saying you do not believe them followed by "I said, that said he had more delatates" which is exactly what they would have you believe.

You suck at dissembling.
Look.

I did misstate in this last post. My point is that the Paul camp claims they have more delegates. I simply do not know if that is a factual assessment. The wiki page shows there is room for the Paul camp to be correct.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Look.

I did misstate in this last post. My point is that the Paul camp claims they have more delegates. I simply do not know if that is a factual assessment. The wiki page shows there is room for the Paul camp to be correct.

The wiki page says they indeed do claim that and nothing more. And for fucks sake I have some friends that changed the numbers on Teddy Roosevelt's wiki page saying that he killed 10s of thousands of lions, elephants etc on his hunting trips and they didn't catch it for years.

At the bottom of the page they have citations. If a comment on a current event like that is not cited you are a fool to just take it at face value. So anonymous 'insiders' from Paul's camp are right but every other outlet in the country is in om some hoax and you give the notion credence because you read it on a wiki page?

gmfb

[JohnnyMarzetti]

So the state count so far, per NBC: Romney 3 wins (VA, VT, MA); Gingrich 1 (GA); and Santorum 1 (TN)

[Galileo]

Reality Check: The real Republican delegate numbers (VIDEO)

WATCH VIDEO:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/content.php?1436-Reality-Check-The-Truth-Behind-The-Republican-Delegate-Numbers-the-youtube

B-) cool

[Galileo]

Ron Paul on Delegate Math

"In fact, while I didn't win any state's straw polls, my team expects me to win a plurality of delegates in at least three states, as well as outright majorities in two more of the states that have already started their process."

http://blogs.ajc.com/jamie-dupree-washington-insider/2012/03/09/ron-paul-on-delegate-math/

[ChumpDumper]

So Paul's still going to lose the nomination.

:tu

[CubanMustGo]

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/grasping-at-straws.jpg

[Galileo]

Will Ron Paul Invite Mitt Romney To Be His Vice President?

"But why," you might ask, "would Ron Paul want Mitt Romney, a soon-to-be washed up politician, as his running mate?" Well, because Ron Paul, a fan of the wisdom of the founding fathers, might appreciate the pre-1804 thinking of having a man who is his biggest opponent as his vice president. The idea was encouraged in the U.S. Constitution Article 1, section 2 before it was altered by the 12th Amendment. Jefferson, for example, was the vice president to Adams. Boy did those two not get along. They had some fundamental differences of opinion.

http://lewrockwell.com/stevo/stevo12.1.html

[Blake]

Will Ron Paul Invite Mitt Romney To Be His Vice President?

"But why," you might ask, "would Ron Paul want Mitt Romney, a soon-to-be washed up politician, as his running mate?" Well, because Ron Paul, a fan of the wisdom of the founding fathers, might appreciate the pre-1804 thinking of having a man who is his biggest opponent as his vice president. The idea was encouraged in the U.S. Constitution Article 1, section 2 before it was altered by the 12th Amendment. Jefferson, for example, was the vice president to Adams. Boy did those two not get along. They had some fundamental differences of opinion.

http://lewrockwell.com/stevo/stevo12.1.html

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You are reminding me of scientologists with the smarmy 'we know the real secret' routine.

Take off the tin hat.

[Galileo]

Ron Paul's In-It-To-Win-It Strategy Is 'Not Far-Fetched,' Campaign Manager Says

It's not far-fetched at all. Most of the delegate projection is simply that, speculation based on how people think delegates will be allotted based on performance in nonbinding straw polls. They're going to be elected through the state convention process. It's our strategy to attack those state conventions, move through that convention process and capture delegates that way. The reporting of delegate attainment is largely skewed by the media right now.

http://wamu.org/news/12/03/07/ron_pauls_in_it_to_win_it_strategy_is_not_far_fetc hed_campaign_manager_says

[ChumpDumper]

So Paul's campaign manager thinks Paul's campaign is well managed.

Riveting.

[Galileo]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Rick Santorum’s delegate woes: Trying hard in some states; in others, not so much

The Santorum campaign’s organizational missteps mean that it is already at a deficit of at least 30 delegates in the races playing out over the next month – even before voters in those contests have cast their ballots.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/rick-santorums-delegate-woes-trying-hard-in-some-states-in-others-not-so-much/2012/03/08/gIQAM3IgzR_blog.html

:lmao

[Galileo]

So Paul's campaign manager thinks Paul's campaign is well managed.

Riveting.

Rick Santorum’s delegate woes: Trying hard in some states; in others, not so much

The Santorum campaign’s organizational missteps mean that it is already at a deficit of at least 30 delegates in the races playing out over the next month – even before voters in those contests have cast their ballots.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/rick-santorums-delegate-woes-trying-hard-in-some-states-in-others-not-so-much/2012/03/08/gIQAM3IgzR_blog.html

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Yep, Paul's not going to win the nomination.

:lmao

[SA210]

Ron Paul, gotta love that guy. Nice to see an honest person with a spine in this race.

:hat

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Rick Santorum’s delegate woes: Trying hard in some states; in others, not so much

The Santorum campaign’s organizational missteps mean that it is already at a deficit of at least 30 delegates in the races playing out over the next month – even before voters in those contests have cast their ballots.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/rick-santorums-delegate-woes-trying-hard-in-some-states-in-others-not-so-much/2012/03/08/gIQAM3IgzR_blog.html

:lmao

In the districts where Santorum failed to meet the requirements to assign his own delegate, that does not mean the delegate slot will go to just whomever. Those districts or counties or however the state does it still vote or hold a caucus. The people attending decide whoever gets it and those outcomes have been tabulated.

There is no surprise super secret delegate defection.

[Galileo]

Maine caucuses provide a window into Ron Paul delegate strategy (IMPORTANT)

Estimates by CNN and other national news organizations Saturday night projected that Romney, who placed first with 39 percent in the Maine GOP straw poll, would wind up taking at least nine of Maine’s 24 national convention delegates, compared with seven for Paul, who placed second with 36 percent. But due to Paul supporters’ superior organization in the low-turnout caucuses, those projections could be way off, and the libertarian-leaning Texas congressman could well sweep Maine’s 24 delegates at the August Republican National Convention.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/maine-caucuses-provide-a-window-into-ron-paul-delegate-strategy/2012/02/12/gIQARNbC9Q_blog.html

:> smug

[Galileo]

In the districts where Santorum failed to meet the requirements to assign his own delegate, that does not mean the delegate slot will go to just whomever. Those districts or counties or however the state does it still vote or hold a caucus. The people attending decide whoever gets it and those outcomes have been tabulated.

There is no surprise super secret delegate defection.

It means the delegates are up for grabs and most of them are being grabbed by Ron Paul. What Paul is not getting, Romney is.

[SA210]

Maine caucuses provide a window into Ron Paul delegate strategy (IMPORTANT)

Estimates by CNN and other national news organizations Saturday night projected that Romney, who placed first with 39 percent in the Maine GOP straw poll, would wind up taking at least nine of Maine’s 24 national convention delegates, compared with seven for Paul, who placed second with 36 percent. But due to Paul supporters’ superior organization in the low-turnout caucuses, those projections could be way off, and the libertarian-leaning Texas congressman could well sweep Maine’s 24 delegates at the August Republican National Convention.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/maine-caucuses-provide-a-window-into-ron-paul-delegate-strategy/2012/02/12/gIQARNbC9Q_blog.html

:> smug


Here's what Obama thinks of Maine. :lol

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[Winehole23]

what does Obama think of Maine?

[SA210]

what does Obama think of Maine?

That fraud happened in their recent elections, and he doesn't blame them.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Maine caucuses provide a window into Ron Paul delegate strategy (IMPORTANT)

Estimates by CNN and other national news organizations Saturday night projected that Romney, who placed first with 39 percent in the Maine GOP straw poll, would wind up taking at least nine of Maine’s 24 national convention delegates, compared with seven for Paul, who placed second with 36 percent. But due to Paul supporters’ superior organization in the low-turnout caucuses, those projections could be way off, and the libertarian-leaning Texas congressman could well sweep Maine’s 24 delegates at the August Republican National Convention.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/maine-caucuses-provide-a-window-into-ron-paul-delegate-strategy/2012/02/12/gIQARNbC9Q_blog.html

:> smug

That article agreed with me dumbass. Its also flies in the face of your notion that the media is simply deciding not to report the true outcomes.

Can the people involved with the caucuses until the bitter end still talk about the outcomes?

Do you have any notion of how the AP is organized and how it disseminate news?

If you would remember, in the Demo nominating process as the race went on and the caucuses are completed, the districts and counties that Obama took using the same 'wait it out til the bitter end' strategy reported that he had won the delegates. As the article points out because the GOP is even worse at plurality that the Dems, its harder to pull tht type of stunt off.

You go ahead and keep the tin hat on and read the ronpaul forums. Everyone else is a bunch of dummies right?

Like I said: that is what scientologists act like.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That fraud happened in their recent elections, and he doesn't blame them.

Its not fraud. they just cook the books so to speak with the delegates that are made available. of course they made it so they can control the outcome in the process. how do you think its been that almost no deleagtes have gone rogue in the 40 or so years of the primaries as we know them?

[ChumpDumper]

lol fraud

[Galileo]

That article agreed with me dumbass. Its also flies in the face of your notion that the media is simply deciding not to report the true outcomes.

Can the people involved with the caucuses until the bitter end still talk about the outcomes?

Do you have any notion of how the AP is organized and how it disseminate news?

If you would remember, in the Demo nominating process as the race went on and the caucuses are completed, the districts and counties that Obama took using the same 'wait it out til the bitter end' strategy reported that he had won the delegates. As the article points out because the GOP is even worse at plurality that the Dems, its harder to pull tht type of stunt off.

You go ahead and keep the tin hat on and read the ronpaul forums. Everyone else is a bunch of dummies right?

Like I said: that is what scientologists act like.

CNN catches up with an Upbeat Ron Paul in Kansas-"We're are going to win the majority of the delegates" (VIDEO)

Ron Paul "There's Several States That We Are Going To Win The Majority Of Delegates"

WATCH VIDEO HERE:

http://www.dailypaul.com/219908/cnn-catches-up-with-an-upbeat-ron-paul-in-kansas-were-are-going-to-win-the-majority-of-the-delegates

:lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

CNN catches up with an Upbeat Ron Paul in Kansas-"We're are going to win the majority of the delegates" (VIDEO)

Ron Paul "There's Several States That We Are Going To Win The Majority Of Delegates"

WATCH VIDEO HERE:

http://www.dailypaul.com/219908/cnn-catches-up-with-an-upbeat-ron-paul-in-kansas-were-are-going-to-win-the-majority-of-the-delegates

:lmao

Do you ever get anything thats not from Paul's campaign? Are you really that daft? Its like asking the tobacco companies about the health risks of smoking or Exxon about global warming.

Do you even attempt to get your information from an objective source or do you just go to where they are saying what you want to hear?

[Galileo]

Do you ever get anything thats not from Paul's campaign? Are you really that daft? Its like asking the tobacco companies about the health risks of smoking or Exxon about global warming.

Do you even attempt to get your information from an objective source or do you just go to where they are saying what you want to hear?

Ron Paul is snagging delegates from Newt Gingrich in Georgia!

The Texas congressman’s forces took over the DeKalb County delegate-selection convention in eastern metropolitan Atlanta.

The Paul campaign’s goal is to have its supporters make up a majority at each district convention and thereby help assure Paulites become delegates to the national GOP convention.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/10/pauls-georgia-partisans-grab-gingrich-turf/#.T1wPInE2EEM.email

:rollin

[Galileo]

Do you ever get anything thats not from Paul's campaign? Are you really that daft? Its like asking the tobacco companies about the health risks of smoking or Exxon about global warming.

Do you even attempt to get your information from an objective source or do you just go to where they are saying what you want to hear?

Breaking! Las Vegas, Nevada. Ron Paul Delegates SWEEP The Clark County Convention!

Chairman Gibbs brought the meeting to order by asking for any Santorum supporters to please raise their hands. A handful of people raised their hands. Then he asked for Gingrich. He got 2 handfuls. When he asked for Romney, his people clustered near the front of the main room raised their hands with a great cheer.

When he asked for Ron Paul what looked like about 2/3rds of the crowd of over 2,600 delegates leaped to their feet as one and unleashed a thunderous ovation that lasted for 30 seconds. It was absolutely electrifying.

http://www.dailypaul.com/219926/breaking-las-vegas-nevada-ron-paul-delegates-sweep-the-clark-county-convention

:lobt2:

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Ron Paul is snagging delegates from Newt Gingrich in Georgia!

The Texas congressman’s forces took over the DeKalb County delegate-selection convention in eastern metropolitan Atlanta.

The Paul campaign’s goal is to have its supporters make up a majority at each district convention and thereby help assure Paulites become delegates to the national GOP convention.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/10/pauls-georgia-partisans-grab-gingrich-turf/#.T1wPInE2EEM.email

:rollin

So does this mean you will accept WaPo's delegate counts?

[Galileo]

So does this mean you will accept WaPo's delegate counts?

Ron Paul has won the Virgin Islands Caucus!

Paul 29%
Romney 26%
Santorum 6%
Gingrich 5%

http://vigop.com/2012/03/vi-gop-2012-caucus-results-coming-soon/

:lmao

[SA210]

:lmao

[Galileo]

:lmao

The Ron Paul Winning Strategy: Washington State Precinct 304 Example

I contend that it is far more likely that Ron Paul has almost as many real delegates as Romney nationally, if not more, and if the media ever reported it, this whole fabricated concern of electability becomes an obvious and obnoxious deception and the establishment could be severely squashed this time around. Similar to a Ronald Reagan trounce but far more drastic.

http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2012/03/guest-post-ron-pauls-delegate-strategy.html

:nope

[Galileo]

Ron Paul Just Won A Caucus But The Media Is Telling You Mitt Romney Did

Ron Paul won the GOP caucus in the Virgin Islands, or at least he won the most votes according to the Virgin Islands Republican Party.

Right now the count stands this way:

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-just-won-a-caucus-even-though-the-media-is-telling-you-mitt-romney-did-2012-3#ixzz1op1HgncC

[Galileo]

Ron Paul Just Won A Caucus But The Media Is Telling You Mitt Romney Did

Ron Paul won the GOP caucus in the Virgin Islands, or at least he won the most votes according to the Virgin Islands Republican Party.

Right now the count stands this way:

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ron-paul-just-won-a-caucus-even-though-the-media-is-telling-you-mitt-romney-did-2012-3#ixzz1op1HgncC

Romney's Fuzzy Math for a Fuzzy Campaign By Christopher Ruddy

The Romney team argues that their candidate needs 48 percent of the remaining delegates to win the nomination, while their leading contender Rick Santorum would need 65 percent and Newt Gingrich 70 percent. Sure, it's unlikely that Santorum or Gingrich can pull that off. But it's just as unlikely for Romney to get 48 percent of the remaining delegates. This means that Romney will fall short of the 1,144 delegates to win on the first ballot in Tampa and it will be brokered.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/mitt-romney-santorum-gingrich/2012/03/08/id/431848

:lol

[SA210]

The Ron Paul Winning Strategy: Washington State Precinct 304 Example

I contend that it is far more likely that Ron Paul has almost as many real delegates as Romney nationally, if not more, and if the media ever reported it, this whole fabricated concern of electability becomes an obvious and obnoxious deception and the establishment could be severely squashed this time around. Similar to a Ronald Reagan trounce but far more drastic.

http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2012/03/guest-post-ron-pauls-delegate-strategy.html

:nope

:lol In case you haven't noticed, I'm with you on this.

[Galileo]

:lol In case you haven't noticed, I'm with you on this.

FACT: Bound delegates in Tampa who prefer Ron Paul but are bound to another candidate can ABSTAIN on the first votes until they officially become unbound, in a brokered convention scenario. This is huge because it will cost Romney anywhere from 100 to 400 votes which means the probability he wins on the first vote much lower.

Quote from the DailyPaul per joeinmo:

"Now its true you CANNOT vote for Ron Paul until the second vote at a National Convention if your state legally has the ability to bind you, but you can ABSTAIN. Yes thats right, your vote will not count for Mittens, Frothy, or the Newt."

Please post your questions or comments here and spread the word.

See details here: http://www.dailypaul.com/220124/are-you-a-bound-delegate-for-romney-santorum-or-the-newt-a-way-to-beat-that

[FuzzyLumpkins]

200 years of the electoral college and 50 years of primaries and Paul was the first one to attempt to do this?

its the super secret delegate defections.

You guys are fools but by all means get your news from the Ron Paul forums and keep the tin hats on tight.

[SA210]

200 years of the electoral college and 50 years of primaries and Paul was the first one to attempt to do this?

its the super secret delegate defections.

You guys are fools but by all means get your news from the Ron Paul forums and keep the tin hats on tight.

Don't hate, just don't participate. :tu

[boutons_deux]

My bet is that RP won't even be able to speak at RNC, never mind win the nomination, or broker anything but his old, fantasy-loving ass, that nobody wants (except as a pre-RNC protest vote).

[Jacob1983]

I'd love to see Ron Paul pull off the miracle just to piss off the haters especially the Fox News and MSNBC types. They cannot stand Ron Paul.