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ThaBigFundamental21
03-08-2012, 12:07 AM
I dunno if you guys spent anytime on the after game conversation over at ESPN, but Parker is getting some major love from fans. A lot of them are starting to mention he should be considered for MVP.

SpursRock20
03-08-2012, 12:12 AM
What is sad is that it takes a game against a big market before any one throws any love love his way. They are just doing it to try to keep the balance in check.

Even if he finished the year scoring 25 ppg and 10 apg, I don't see him winning the MVP. Not enough hype.

timvp
03-08-2012, 12:14 AM
ESPN not hearing those whispers:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/7602916/your-nba-mvp-pick

SpursRock20
03-08-2012, 12:19 AM
ESPN not hearing those whispers:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/7602916/your-nba-mvp-pick

:lmao Can't even vote for Parker, thank God you can vote for Lin, Griffin, Aldridge, or Jefferson, though :downspin:

gospursgojas
03-08-2012, 12:27 AM
He was already getting mentioned and the shit game he had against DRose quieted those talks.

Hopefully he'll kill Westbrook again and they'll start back up

ChumpDumper
03-08-2012, 12:29 AM
Never gonna happen.

ThaBigFundamental21
03-08-2012, 12:29 AM
What is sad is that it takes a game against a big market before any one throws any love love his way. They are just doing it to try to keep the balance in check.

Even if he finished the year scoring 25 ppg and 10 apg, I don't see him winning the MVP. Not enough hype.

Exactly what I was thinking. It takes him throttling Linsanity for everyone to open their eyes. And to TIMVP, that's messed up. Not sure why ESPN has no love for the guy, I admit I'm not a Parker fan. But the dude has been balling. The one hiccup was against the Bulls, granted that was a great stage for him to showcase the high level he has been playing at.

Spursfan092120
03-08-2012, 12:30 AM
ESPN not hearing those whispers:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/7602916/your-nba-mvp-pick
Wow...Westbrook? Nash? Lin? FUCKING AL JEFFERSON?!

gospursgojas
03-08-2012, 12:33 AM
Lin is the silliest one of them all.

Dude had some good games against poor teams. Took them by surprise more than anything.

I love the Lin story...Great story...not an MVP :lol

ThaBigFundamental21
03-08-2012, 12:34 AM
Al Jefferson, Nash, and Lin? I just ripped ESPN a new one. It really, honestly doesn't make any sense. How could you not put Parker on that list??? I'm not saying he is going to win it, or needs to be at the top of that fan vote, but he should be on the list for how well he has played this year.

ThaBigFundamental21
03-08-2012, 12:36 AM
BTW, I can see us Spurstalk members have rounded out the last few comments in that forum. Get em!!!

Beanzamillion21
03-08-2012, 01:21 AM
Called it.

manufan10
03-08-2012, 09:27 AM
ESPN not hearing those whispers:

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/7602916/your-nba-mvp-pick

Some of those names don't even deserve to be in the discussion. I don't think that Tony necessarily deserves the MVP, but he should at least be in the discussion.

hater
03-08-2012, 09:38 AM
yeah, he's top 5 candidate. but he's far, far back from the top 3 IMO

Brazil
03-08-2012, 12:54 PM
yeah, he's top 5 candidate. but he's far, far back from the top 3 IMO

for me there is a clear top 2: lbj and durant with lbj being ahead imo then you can have arguments for the rest of the candidates

DPG21920
03-08-2012, 01:25 PM
Never gonna happen.

Win it? No, but he should be considered for top 5 IMO which is a big accomplishment.

Budkin
03-08-2012, 01:57 PM
Pssh yeah right. Won't ever happen.

TJastal
03-08-2012, 01:58 PM
Parker would have to average 30/15 the rest of the season to even have a shot.

Cow Eye
03-08-2012, 02:00 PM
LoLin? :nope

Bruno
03-08-2012, 02:27 PM
Parker doesn't deserve to be in MVP talks. Less than five players are MVP candidates.

The award Parker could get after his great season is being on a all NBA team. If he continues like that, he should get on the 3rd one with a not that long-shot of making the 2nd one.

timvp
03-08-2012, 02:45 PM
Parker doesn't deserve to be in MVP talks. Less than five players are MVP candidates.

The award Parker could get after his great season is being on a all NBA team. If he continues like that, he should get on the 3rd one with a not that long-shot of making the 2nd one.

An All-NBA team and a top ten finish in MVP voting would clinch Parker's Hall of Fame bid, IMO. He'd basically be the next Joe Dumas.

Joe Dumars
2 championships
3 All-NBA teams
6 All-Star teams
1 top ten MVP season
1 Finals MVP

If Tony Parker accomplishes what I laid out above, his resume would improve to:

Tony Parker
3 championships
2 All-NBA teams
4 All-Star teams
3 top ten MVP seasons
1 Finals MVP

The ADMIRAL 50
03-08-2012, 02:54 PM
I had to throw in my two cents as well:


unfuckingbelievable Parker isn't on a list that Nash, Jefferson, and Lin make. What an absolute joke. The lack of respect the Spurs get is just such a shame. I dont understand it. We have this perception of being boring but in reality we are a damn fun team to watch. Parker is the best one man fast break in the league for the past 5+ years, an incredibly fun guy to watch go to work, and nobody in the nation recognizes. I just hope true basketball fans respect what he has done, because he will begin to decline in the coming years without ever having gotten the respect he deserved.

I dont think Parker deserves to be a legit candidate, especially when stacked up against the favorites, but he deserves consideration more so than half that list. What a joke. What I said in the last sentence of that comment is what really bums me out the most. I know we get no love as a team, but it ends of damaging the legacies of our guys and thats what is most unfair.

eric365
03-08-2012, 02:54 PM
Joe Dumars has also 4 all defensive 1st team and 1 2nd team
And one of his all nba selection was 2nd team. It will be really hard to be 2nd team for Parker with Rose, Wade, Bryant, Westbrook, Paul etc...

Joe Dumars resumé would still be better IMO but not by far

Darkwaters
03-08-2012, 02:55 PM
Parker doesn't deserve to be in MVP talks. Less than five players are MVP candidates.

The award Parker could get after his great season is being on a all NBA team. If he continues like that, he should get on the 3rd one with a not that long-shot of making the 2nd one.

Agreed. But the issue is ESPN just throwing colorful shit on a chalkboard and calling it news. Tony Parker is much more of an MVP candidate that Jeremy Lin, Steve Nash or Al Jefferson.

The ADMIRAL 50
03-08-2012, 02:57 PM
An All-NBA team and a top ten finish in MVP voting would clinch Parker's Hall of Fame bid, IMO. He'd basically be the next Joe Dumas.

Joe Dumars
2 championships
3 All-NBA teams
6 All-Star teams
1 top ten MVP season
1 Finals MVP

If Tony Parker accomplishes what I laid out above, his resume would improve to:

Tony Parker
3 championships
2 All-NBA teams
4 All-Star teams
3 top ten MVP seasons
1 Finals MVP

I agree, TIMVP: that should seal it. But with guys like Dennis Johnson already in there (no hate just saying) thanks to the heavy emphasis on being a winner, I honestly dont think there is a chance he doesnt get in as it stands now. He may have to wait for a bit, but he should absolutely be a lock already.

timvp
03-08-2012, 03:16 PM
Joe Dumars has also 4 all defensive 1st team and 1 2nd team
And one of his all nba selection was 2nd team. It will be really hard to be 2nd team for Parker with Rose, Wade, Bryant, Westbrook, Paul etc...

Joe Dumars resumé would still be better IMO but not by far

Can't argue that too much but I think Dumars' defense was offset a bit by his offense. According to PER, Dumars was basically an average offensive players (15.3 PER in the regular season, 14.4 PER in the playoffs). Parker's PERs are much better and are still on the way up it seems.

Bruno
03-08-2012, 03:31 PM
An All-NBA team and a top ten finish in MVP voting would clinch Parker's Hall of Fame bid, IMO.

I don't know if finishing top ten in MVP voting will have an impact for the HOF but it clearly shouldn't.

Just look at the MVP voting results:
http://www.nba.com/news/nash_mvp_05-06.html
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

5 of 125 journalists and then 7 of 121 journalists have voted for Parker. I don't think you can give some kind of relevance of a top10 MVP results when it's because of about 5% of the journalist panel.

All-NBA teams should weight way more for making the HOF.

romain.star
03-08-2012, 03:57 PM
i don't know if finishing top ten in mvp voting will have an impact for the hof but it clearly shouldn't.

Just look at the mvp voting results:
http://www.nba.com/news/nash_mvp_05-06.html
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/05/04/mvp.release.20090504/index.html

5 of 125 journalists and then 7 of 121 journalists have voted for parker. I don't think you can give some kind of relevance of a top10 mvp results when it's because of about 5% of the journalist panel.

All-nba teams should weight way more for making the hof.

+1

timvp
03-08-2012, 04:07 PM
I don't know if finishing top ten in MVP voting will have an impact for the HOF but it clearly shouldn't.Eh, I don't know. While I agree the order in importance should probably go All-NBA team --> All-Star team --> top ten in MVP voting ... I think top ten in MVP voting has some value. AFIAK, the same people who vote on on the All-NBA team vote on the MVP. And if you are in the top ten in MVP voting, that probably means you are at least a top 15-20 player in the NBA even after adjusting for sample size.

Top ten MVP voting is also useful for situations in which the league may be unevenly stacked at one position and thus it may be impossible for a player to make an All-NBA team even though they are a top ten player in the NBA. For example, this year's All-NBA third team center is going to end up being a worse player than Parker due to that very circumstance.

Brazil
03-14-2012, 10:02 PM
TP is not an MVP candidate but dude is ballin'... loved the mvp chants... I'm sure he will be sensible to this fans attention.

ElNono
03-14-2012, 10:03 PM
I thought those were for Manu...

DMC
03-14-2012, 10:08 PM
More GNSF like bitching about lack of proper media coverage.

DMC
03-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Honestly, in the end who really gives a fuck about the HOF? It's all about now, winning now, winning rings.
Wow.

I think everyone on both sides of the court cares about the HOF. Getting there means you did some pretty cool shit.

DMC
03-14-2012, 10:10 PM
TP is not an MVP candidate but dude is ballin'... loved the mvp chants... I'm sure he will be sensible to this fans attention.
Without Tony we would probably not be .500

Brazil
03-14-2012, 10:12 PM
I thought those were for Manu...

Manu had a very solid game tonight. His JS seems to be better.

DPG21920
03-14-2012, 10:13 PM
TP is not an MVP candidate but dude is ballin'... loved the mvp chants... I'm sure he will be sensible to this fans attention.

You really don't think he's a candidate? He won't win over Lebron/Durant, but he's a top 5 candidate at this point IMO.

Ice009
03-14-2012, 10:13 PM
TP is not an MVP candidate but dude is ballin'... loved the mvp chants... I'm sure he will be sensible to this fans attention.

I think TP is an MVP candidate. Top 5 IMO candidate.

Texas_Ranger
03-14-2012, 10:13 PM
He also's got Silver and Bronze medal from Euro Basket.

Brazil
03-14-2012, 10:14 PM
Without Tony we would probably not be .500

I agree.

Nevertheless Lebron and Durant who are playing great basketball are the clear candidates but after these two he is right there with some few others. I'd say he is a solid top 5

Brazil
03-14-2012, 10:16 PM
You really don't think he's a candidate? He won't win over Lebron/Durant, but he's a top 5 candidate at this point IMO.

This is what I meant he has no room to be in the conversation with Lebron and Durant but he is clear top 5

DPG21920
03-14-2012, 10:16 PM
Ahh, ok, I see.

ElNono
03-14-2012, 10:23 PM
Manu had a very solid game tonight. His JS seems to be better.

Tony's team this season

gilmor
03-14-2012, 10:24 PM
I thought those were for Manu...

er.. they are for Parker.. From ESPN site..

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=320314024

Magic, declaring before a 122-111 loss to the San Antonio Spurs on Wednesday night that he won't surrender his right to become a free agent this summer.

Howard had 22 points and 12 rebounds on the eve of the NBA trade deadline, and his refusal to give the Magic the ultimate assurance he'll be back may weaken Orlando's hesitation to trade their superstar.

The trade deadline is 3 p.m. Thursday.

Tony Parker had 31 points and 12 assists, and Tim Duncan had 21 points and 13 rebounds as the Spurs closed a seven-game homestand by hosting the NBA's biggest drama.

Parker, averaging 29.8 points in his last four games, was serenaded by chants of "M-V-P! M-V-P!" in the closing minutes.

ElNono
03-14-2012, 10:24 PM
:lol

ElNono
03-14-2012, 10:24 PM
blue = sarcasm

DPG21920
03-14-2012, 10:24 PM
Gilmor, when someone posts something in "blue", it means they are being sarcastic.

jaffies
03-14-2012, 10:29 PM
You idiots. Blue doesn't mean sarcasm, it means it's your true feelings. Like 'true blue'

DPG21920
03-14-2012, 10:30 PM
This post is actually yellow & green. That means something different entirely.

Brazil
03-14-2012, 10:33 PM
Tony's team this season

thats a sure thing but like tp said the spurs aren't winning anything without manu

DPG21920
03-14-2012, 10:35 PM
Get a room you two ^

ElNono
03-14-2012, 10:36 PM
haters gonna hate, tbh...

xellos88330
03-14-2012, 10:42 PM
This year he definitely has been the Spurs MVP. League, I still think he is a long shot. He deserves to be mentioned in the race though.

Beanzamillion21
03-14-2012, 10:48 PM
Heard em loud and clear at the AT&T Center tonight.

lefty
03-14-2012, 11:10 PM
Mvp

tbh

ducks
03-14-2012, 11:12 PM
finals mvp again

DAF86
03-14-2012, 11:15 PM
That would be sweet.

JRHernandez88
03-14-2012, 11:45 PM
Heard em loud and clear at the AT&T Center tonight.
Yup that was awesome to hear the fans finnaly give em a chant. That's the first time i've ever heard MVP chants for Parker. :whine

LoneStarState'sPride
03-14-2012, 11:47 PM
Glad to see TP finally getting some love--been too long coming.

TampaDude
03-14-2012, 11:52 PM
Heard em loud and clear at the AT&T Center tonight.

Yup...they weren't whispering it tonight! :toast

slick'81
03-14-2012, 11:56 PM
dude is amazing he is on another planet right now