View Full Version : Would you offer Lin a 3-year.25 million contract?
Rapper
03-09-2012, 03:25 AM
In terms of his bright upcoming future and value in the market. The knicks should offer him a reasonable contract in the summer. to be honest. Linsanity now is not on the same level with those guys like D-Rose ,TP and CP3 . However, Lin is still 23 years old and will surely be an all star from next season on. so if you were the manager of the knicks would you agree to this contract?
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Spur_Fanatic
03-09-2012, 03:30 AM
He is not on that level.
But by market value... Yes.
Rapper
03-09-2012, 03:46 AM
He is not on that level.
But by market value... Yes.
So he does not deserve 5 -6 million per year?
?
Spur_Fanatic
03-09-2012, 04:25 AM
No, I ment I agreed with you on the he not in same level of D-Rose ,TP and CP3.
But by market value, he is worth a nice contract. 25m/3y is ok'ish.
Hoops Czar
03-09-2012, 04:37 AM
So he does not deserve 5 -6 million per year?
?
Based on just 20 or so games, I'm willing to take a chance on 5 mil per. But 3 year 25 mil, which comes out to roughly 8 mil per is too pricey. I'm not even convinced he's a long term starter in ths league.
On the otherhand, if you take into account ticket sales and merchandise sales that he's generating, I could see him signing for 25 mil over three years.
wanggi
03-09-2012, 05:55 AM
Based on just 20 or so games, I'm willing to take a chance on 5 mil per. But 3 year 25 mil, which comes out to roughly 8 mil per is too pricey. I'm not even convinced he's a long term starter in ths league.
On the otherhand, if you take into account ticket sales and merchandise sales that he's generating, I could see him signing for 25 mil over three years.
With Melo injures once again someday, then you will know that Lin worths 8 mil per.
hater
03-09-2012, 11:17 AM
Anything over MLE is overpaying
Rapper
03-09-2012, 11:22 AM
With Melo injures once again someday, then you will know that Lin worths 8 mil per.
That is what I supposed to be reply
thispego
03-09-2012, 12:25 PM
3 years for .25 million? sign me up
I wonder what deal will Lin sign. I totaly have no idea ,how it will look like. 25/3 seems unrealistic tough. Lin would want 5 yrs, and Knicks would like less money annually
InRareForm
03-09-2012, 12:43 PM
hahah compared to other bloated contracts with other lazy, uninspired players in the league.. that looks like a bargain to me.
pass1st
03-09-2012, 12:44 PM
Based on performance: 5mil
Based on potential: 6-7mil
Based on marketing potential: 8 mil
lefty
03-09-2012, 01:23 PM
Yes
Just think about the revenues coming from Lin jersey sales in China
ambchang
03-09-2012, 02:22 PM
Average salary of NBA players is $5.15M, I would imagine that, even based strictly on performance, Lin is above average at this point.
I only have the 2010 data, but of the 146 guards in the league, 48 guards make $5M or more. I am not sure if there are 48 guards who are better than J. Lin at this point, especially when you are mindful of the fact that there are quite a few young guards who didn't make the $5M cutoff because they were on their rookie deals (Conley, Harden, Westbrook, Mayo).
Surprisingly, in 2010, going to $8M a year would only shrink the list down to 30 guards (18 guards make between $5M and $8M, weird), and those that made the $8M club aren't really that great of a group of guards either. Mo Williams, Jason Richardson (an old deal), Jamal Crawford, Devin Harris, Kirk Hinrich, Jose Calderon, Ben Gordon (definitely a mistake).
Of those 18 guards that makes between $5M and $8M, the only one who is clearly better than J. Lin is Derrick Rose, and the only reason he's there is because of the rookie deal. The other players include Beno Udrich (WTF?), Sasha Vujacic (WTFFFFFFFFF???), JJ Redick, John Salmons, J.R. Smith (I believe he is the 2nd best player in this group, behind Rose), and Francisco Garcia.
A player like Kyle Korver and Louis Williams makes $5M. Of the players that are not on rookie deals, here are a list
ambchang
03-09-2012, 02:28 PM
UPDATE: Just found the 2011/12 salary:
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-player-salaries/position/2011/
The $5M group have some promising players, but these players are only here because they are on the rookie deals, they would command a MUCH larger contract once their rookie deals expire. (Westbrook, Irving, Wall).
Those making between $5M and $8M who are NOT on rookie deals:
Hinrich, Miller, Nelson, Felton, Udrih.
Those who are making more than $8M, and I think are worse than J.Lin:
Calderon, Terry, Mo Williams, Stuckey (arguable).
Players like Nate Robinson, Jarrett Jack, Jose Barea, Randy Foye and such makes slightly less than $5M a year. So I would say J Lin is only worth $5M a year based on performance is not entirely accurate.
Chris
03-09-2012, 02:33 PM
Yes
Just think about the revenues coming from Lin jersey sales in China
Pretty much.
Latarian Milton
03-09-2012, 08:03 PM
chink's certainly gettin overpaid as long as he plays in NY tbh
Answer: No
Why? He would take less
wanggi
03-10-2012, 03:35 AM
chink's certainly gettin overpaid as long as he plays in NY tbh
Everybody gets overpaid in NYK.
irishock
03-10-2012, 04:09 AM
No. The guy is not effective when running a half court offense, he's only good on teams like NY that run all over the place. Guys like Kidd and Nash are able to adapt to any style of offense, run and gun or half court grinding game. Not to mention they make scrub team mates look like cash, something only elite PGs can do.
A good center would deserve that contract, but there are so many PGs in the league that can do what Lin does on a run and gun team, that nobody would rush to sign the guy to such a contract.
Everybody gets overpaid in NYK.
:lol but so true!
Longley
03-10-2012, 10:42 AM
Hell no!!!
Spurs9
03-10-2012, 11:54 AM
Yes
Just think about the revenues coming from Lin jersey sales in China
Hes not even chinese, hes taiwanese
pass1st
03-10-2012, 11:57 AM
Hes not even chinese, hes taiwanese
He said in an interview he was Chinese, that's good enough for 99% of the world.
Mr.Bottomtooth
03-10-2012, 02:02 PM
Right now he's not worth >= $8M. $7M sounds about right.
3M tbh
He alternatives are to become a free agent and see who wants to go for the Chinese marketing angle. Houston might take it.
wanggi
03-11-2012, 03:36 AM
He said in an interview he was Chinese, that's good enough for 99% of the world.
I'm Taiwanese, I know Lin is Taiwanese descent.
He isn't Chinese.
He said that for making those mainland Chinese happy or he meant his ancestors were Chinese.
So most of us are African from that standpoint?
Because human ancestors were from Africa.
Or you can say we were monkeys.:nope
Rapper
03-11-2012, 03:56 AM
I'm Taiwanese, I know Lin is Taiwanese descent.
He isn't Chinese.
He said that for making those mainland Chinese happy or he meant his ancestors were Chinese.
So most of us are African from that standpoint?
Because human ancestors were from Africa.
Or you can say we were monkeys.:nope
it is not an issue just think about it actually Taiwan is a part of China.
wanggi
03-11-2012, 05:57 AM
it is not an issue just think about it actually Taiwan is a part of China.
No, Taiwan is not a part of China.
I know that China have claimed that before but Taiwan government didn't give a shit.
China Communism = No freedom
Taiwan Democracy = Freedom
Black&Silver
03-11-2012, 06:00 AM
Notice how the nba hypes up Lin right after yao retired. Gotta milk that Chinese market one way or the other.
Crytek
03-11-2012, 06:06 AM
Tbh, i didn't see the NBA itself hype him up. Moreso the Media landscape. The Hype just outgrew him because he had a winning streak going. It's toned down now (a little) as the Knicks are losing. But the NBA wasn't ready for it, they run out of Lin jersey the 2nd game as a starter for him or so :D
Still, Business is business.
wanggi
03-11-2012, 07:27 AM
Notice how the nba hypes up Lin right after yao retired. Gotta milk that Chinese market one way or the other.
I correct you guys again. Lin is Taiwanese decent, he ain't Chinese.
Lin is American.
Yao is Chinese.
The reason that Lin said he's Chinese was his ancestors were Chinese.
Lin won't hit Chinese market.
Trainwreck2100
03-11-2012, 10:37 AM
I correct you guys again. Lin is Taiwanese decent, he ain't Chinese.
Lin is American.
Yao is Chinese.
The reason that Lin said he's Chinese was his ancestors were Chinese.
Lin won't hit Chinese market.
during his run, china's gov media hunted down his grandma in some village
wanggi
03-11-2012, 11:00 AM
during his run, china's gov media hunted down his grandma in some village
That was Lin's mother's grandmother.
In Chinese/Taiwanese blood relationship laws, the mother side doesn't count.
For an example, you belong to a Chinese family but your grandmother was a Filipino....so you aren't Filipino, right?
I correct you guys again. Lin is Taiwanese decent, he ain't Chinese.
Lin is American.
Yao is Chinese.
The reason that Lin said he's Chinese was his ancestors were Chinese.
Lin won't hit Chinese market.
http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2012/02/14/linsanity-heads-east-linfects-china-and-taiwan/
America can’t get enough of Jeremy Lin — nor can anyone else. Less than a week after leading the Knicks to a five-game winning streak, Taiwanese-American point guard is the most searched item (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/evanosnos/2012/02/china-catches-linfengkuang.html) on Baidu, a leading Chinese search engine, and he already has a quarter million followers on Weibo (http://www.weibo.com/jlin7), a Twitter-like microblog. Everybody, it seems, is talking about the Harvard-educated wunderkind.
In Asia at least, most comments seem pleased to see a high-profile Chinese-American in sports. Wang Lee-hom, a Taiwanese-American celebrity with over 13 million followers on Weibo, tweeted in Chinese Tuesday: “Perhaps you all guessed what today’s Weibo is going to be? It’s about the NBA’s first ABC [American-born Chinese] Jeremy Lin! Representing Chinese right now in the U.S., breaking many long-held stereotypes, opening Americans’ eyes!”
Read more: http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2012/02/14/linsanity-heads-east-linfects-china-and-taiwan/#ixzz1opPfA64a
wanggi
03-11-2012, 11:47 PM
http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2012/02/14/linsanity-heads-east-linfects-china-and-taiwan/
America can’t get enough of Jeremy Lin — nor can anyone else. Less than a week after leading the Knicks to a five-game winning streak, Taiwanese-American point guard is the most searched item (http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/evanosnos/2012/02/china-catches-linfengkuang.html) on Baidu, a leading Chinese search engine, and he already has a quarter million followers on Weibo (http://www.weibo.com/jlin7), a Twitter-like microblog. Everybody, it seems, is talking about the Harvard-educated wunderkind.
In Asia at least, most comments seem pleased to see a high-profile Chinese-American in sports. Wang Lee-hom, a Taiwanese-American celebrity with over 13 million followers on Weibo, tweeted in Chinese Tuesday: “Perhaps you all guessed what today’s Weibo is going to be? It’s about the NBA’s first ABC [American-born Chinese] Jeremy Lin! Representing Chinese right now in the U.S., breaking many long-held stereotypes, opening Americans’ eyes!”
Read more: http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2012/02/14/linsanity-heads-east-linfects-china-and-taiwan/#ixzz1opPfA64a
Sometimes, Chinese could be a general call as you mention about Sigaporean, Taiwannese.....Because their ancestors were from China.
But what I mentioned was nationality + descent. Not ancestry.
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