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crc21209
03-13-2012, 03:38 PM
Dwight Howard: He’s determined to leave the Magic for the Nets, either now or later

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports

For everything Dwight Howard has told the Orlando Magic management about bringing him a stronger supporting cast, about the possibility that he could still sign an extension, it has turned into a complete ruse – a misdirection play on his eventual signing with the Brooklyn-bound New Jersey Nets, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

With the combination of Howard’s disdain for confrontation, desire to be liked and a pragmatic belief that a trade is no longer in his best long-term interests, Howard has created an illusion with the Magic that there are factors that could cause him to sign an extension with the team.

“Dwight’s gone, and [Magic CEO] Alex Martins is the only person who doesn’t believe that,” a league source with knowledge of Howard’s intentions told Yahoo! Sports.

Howard is privately telling people the acquisition of an All-Star player and more complementary players could sway him to stay, league sources told Y! Sports’ Marc Spears, but that scenario is far-fetched given the limited appeal of Orlando’s trade assets. A proposed three-way trade between the Magic, Golden State Warriors and Milwaukee Bucks, which would send Andrew Bogut to Golden State and Monta Ellis to Orlando won’t happen unless Milwaukee also finds a team to take Stephen Jackson. And the Magic are hesitant about accepting Jackson’s contract, which has one remaining year worth $10 million, unless they’ve been assured Howard will re-sign.

Martins has been talking directly with Howard and is going along with ownership’s desire to keep the franchise center for the remainder of the season, sources said. From a business perspective, it made sense for Martins to hold onto Howard until the last possible moment. He still sells tickets, sponsorships and, yes, banks victories that will get the Magic into the playoffs even if Howard is traded by Thursday. Nevertheless, there’s no misunderstanding from Howard’s camp that they will eventually sign with the Nets at the July 1 start of free agency, sources said.

Magic general manager Otis Smith and coach Stan Van Gundy have known Howard the longest. They know he will leave them and they want a deal done prior to Thursday’s 3 p.m. ET trade deadline. The gulf between Martins and his basketball operations staff has become vast, full of mistrust and animosity. “Otis and Stan want the circus to end,” one source close to them said. “They want a deal.”

Martins has improved the franchise’s relationship with Howard, multiple sources told Yahoo! Sports. But as one source talking to Martins and Howard said: “That’s great, but [Dwight’s] still going to leave.”

Said another official, who has been involved in deal talks with Orlando, New Jersey and the agents in the process: “Dwight is going to [expletive] them, and that will be especially true if he doesn’t even ask for the sign-and-trade on July 1, because he wants Brooklyn to keep assets.”

Why would Howard push for a trade now? So the Nets have to give up Brook Lopez and draft picks? For Howard, he can finish the season with the Magic, make the playoffs and leave on July 1 for a contract with the Nets, who can offer him a four-year, $81 million deal – about $28 million less than what the Magic can give him in a fifth year. Adidas wants him in a major market – New York or Los Angeles – and this scenario promises him the highest possible value on his upcoming renegotiation on his shoe deal.

Orlando has few assets that teams want but is still the team that can escalate payroll and absorb talent. After taking on millions of dollars more in future money on the salary cap in the Gilbert Arenas trade a season ago, Martins is threatening to do it again at the deadline. For all the talk of a potential Monta Ellis trade to the Magic, the Golden State Warriors have been adamant they won’t make any deal with Orlando that doesn’t bring Howard back as a rental for the rest of the season.

For the first time on Tuesday, Van Gundy seemed to publicly push back on upper management’s undermining of his GM and himself. “Sometimes, I feel like our coaching staff are the only people in Orlando who care about the results of games,” Van Gundy told reporters.

If Orlando goes to New Jersey before the trade deadline searching for a multi-team deal, the Nets are confident enough they’ll sign Howard on July 1 that they could reject any proposal that forces them to give up too many assets.

The New Jersey Nets are setting into a motion a plan to sign Howard, re-sign Deron Williams and keep restricted free agent Brook Lopez on an approximate $10 million annual salary, sources said. The Nets are working on several ways to shed several more million dollars of future payroll that will give them the flexibility to re-sign Lopez. The Nets and Charlotte Bobcats have had extensive talks on a deal that would send Boris Diaw’s expiring contract to New Jersey for several players and a first-round pick, sources said. The Nets could clear about $6.5 million in cap room with the trade.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_dwight_howard_magic_nets_trade_031312

crc21209
03-13-2012, 03:42 PM
This guy doesnt wanna win, he just wants to make big bucks in a big market. Even Adidas is pushing him to go to a bigger market. Looks like it's going to be Brooklyn.....

Reck
03-13-2012, 03:57 PM
Big Market like where? Los Angeles playing second to Kobe or OKC to be the third men?

Where would you have him go crc?

lefty
03-13-2012, 03:58 PM
Deron Williams + Dwight


Fuck yeah

DeadlyDynasty
03-13-2012, 04:00 PM
Deron Williams + Dwight


Fuck yeah

They'll never win shit. If he doesnt go to LA then he's content with being a loser

lefty
03-13-2012, 04:00 PM
They'll never win shit. If he doesnt go to LA then he's content with being a loser
Then he wont win shit

baseline bum
03-13-2012, 04:03 PM
They'll never win shit. If he doesnt go to LA then he's content with being a loser

Or maybe he doesn't want to be viewed as piggybacking Bryant and Gasol and instead wants to get in on the ground floor. The media crucified LeBron for going to a stacked team.

mavsfan1000
03-13-2012, 04:20 PM
Fuck. Cuban screwed up.

#41 Shoot Em Up
03-13-2012, 04:26 PM
They coming to Dallas

DeadlyDynasty
03-13-2012, 04:26 PM
Or maybe he doesn't want to be viewed as piggybacking Bryant and Gasol and instead wants to get in on the ground floor. The media crucified LeBron for going to a stacked team.

Cool, he can be a loser for life then.

Reck
03-13-2012, 04:27 PM
They'll never win shit. If he doesnt go to LA then he's content with being a loser

Listen at you thinking LA has all the answers. :lol

DMC
03-13-2012, 04:28 PM
This guy doesnt wanna win, he just wants to make big bucks in a big market. Even Adidas is pushing him to go to a bigger market. Looks like it's going to be Brooklyn.....
That is winning.

From a business perspective, and he's his own corporation, it's about profits. Corporations brag about milestones and achievements, but it all comes down to making money.

DeadlyDynasty
03-13-2012, 04:34 PM
Listen at you thinking LA has all the answers. :lol

They invented winning....the nets are born losers, kinda like you:lol

baseline bum
03-13-2012, 04:36 PM
Cool, he can be a loser for life then.

Looks like it, but dude seems to care about image above all.

Killakobe81
03-13-2012, 04:38 PM
I never hated the guy, but wish him luck. Dwight seems like a great guy but wants to be liked too much ...sorta like Lebron. It's amazing how the two best 2 way guys in the NBA can be such wusses. Say what you will about Melo, but he made it clear where he wanted to be and got there. Dwight needs to walk in to the office tell them he is leaving but he doesnt want them to get screwed ...so make a deal. LOL at keeping Lopez. if they do bag Howard Lopez should be trade fodder to get back a decent SF and they need to hold on to Brooks.

Oh and PART of the reason Cavs fans hate Lebron is they lost him and got pretty much nothing ...except worthless cap space no matter what Magic fans will be pissed but if they got back: SOMETHING ...it would help.

A core of:

PG Dwill
SG Brooks
SF (open for what they get in Lopez trade)
PF Humphries
C Dwight

Not sure that wins a title the next 2 seasons, but if Marshon develops as promised he should be pretty good just as Dwill and Howard are hitting the apex of their primes.

DeadlyDynasty
03-13-2012, 04:38 PM
Looks like it, but dude seems to care about image above all.

He can have both in LA

baseline bum
03-13-2012, 04:42 PM
Nah, he goes to LA and lots of fans see him as just another Luck_the_fakers like LeBron who wanted a title the easy way.

Reck
03-13-2012, 04:49 PM
They invented winning....the nets are born losers, kinda like you:lol

Wow very original, I'm hurt. :cry

DeadlyDynasty
03-13-2012, 04:51 PM
Wow very original, I'm hurt. :cry

Best post you've ever made.

Reck
03-13-2012, 04:54 PM
Best post you've ever made.

What happened to your troll name? Oh yeah that.. :lmao

DPG21920
03-13-2012, 05:26 PM
Woj just reporting what I already told Mav fan long ago.

DeadlyDynasty
03-13-2012, 05:32 PM
What happened to your troll name? Oh yeah that.. :lmao

Which troll?

m>s
03-14-2012, 09:39 AM
DH is bored of playing on a scrub team and there'd be no point joining dem nets if that nigga deron ends up walking come summer

Giuseppe
03-14-2012, 11:02 AM
DH is bored

There it is.

Money is a fleeting motivator.

mudyez
03-14-2012, 11:09 AM
I call it a bluff: he wants them to trade him for cheap, with him getting big money, while NJ couldnt even sign him for the max. just like last year with Denver which at least got a good trade out of it.

Orlando is stupid if they do it...either get a better trade or see if D12 will ruin his career like Melo did with stuff like that!

Hooks
03-14-2012, 01:31 PM
If this is true then RIP Lakers, no more buying 'ships or bs trades. It's pretty obvious the Clips are Stern's new baby in LA, the Lakers are the new Clips and won't be contenders for another 10+ years.

pass1st
03-14-2012, 01:37 PM
If this is true then RIP Lakers, no more buying 'ships or bs trades. It's pretty obvious the Clips are Stern's new baby in LA, the Lakers are the new Clips and won't be contenders for another 10+ years.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2012/02/26/new-cable-deal-make-los-angeles-lakers-most-valuable-nba-team/

They will keep buying chips, no worries

Giuseppe
03-14-2012, 01:47 PM
If this is true then RIP Lakers, no more buying 'ships or bs trades. It's pretty obvious the Clips are Stern's new baby in LA, the Lakers are the new Clips and won't be contenders for another 10+ years.

The truth is that the smack down is no longer dollar for dollar. It's imminent at 3 dollars for dollar. It's against every business tenet at 1 to 1. At 3 to 1 think Chernobyl.

baseline bum
03-14-2012, 02:17 PM
I call it a bluff: he wants them to trade him for cheap, with him getting big money, while NJ couldnt even sign him for the max. just like last year with Denver which at least got a good trade out of it.

Orlando is stupid if they do it...either get a better trade or see if D12 will ruin his career like Melo did with stuff like that!

The Nets will have almost $20 million of capspace by renouncing Lopez even if their pick is the #1 and no trade happens. The best the Magic should be able to get is guys Brooklyn will renounce anyways: Lopez+Humphries and no pick.

Hooks
03-14-2012, 02:44 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2012/02/26/new-cable-deal-make-los-angeles-lakers-most-valuable-nba-team/

They will keep buying chips, no worries


Dwight and Deron are really the only two available superstars that would return L.A back to the dominant force they once were for years to come. Kobe is on the decline and will probably retire in around 4 years, his play is already hurting his team badly and it'll only go down from here. Doesn't seem like his ego will allow him to take the back seat to anyone either. He's pretty much untouchable when it comes to trades so L.A is stuck with him.

After a couple more losing seasons for L.A I think it's inevitable that Kobe will ask for a trade, it'll get nasty in L.A.

Without signing Deron or Howard it'll be 5 years or more of just mediocrity (like the Spurs) and then the Lakers will go into rebuilding mode and hope they're able to get a future superstar player in the draft.

pass1st
03-14-2012, 02:50 PM
Dwight and Deron are really the only two available superstars that would return L.A back to the dominant force they once were for years to come. Kobe is on the decline and will probably retire in around 4 years, his play is already hurting his team badly and it'll only go down from here. Doesn't seem like his ego will allow him to take the back seat to anyone either. He's pretty much untouchable when it comes to trades so L.A is stuck with him.

After a couple more losing seasons for L.A I think it's inevitable that Kobe will ask for a trade, it'll get nasty in L.A.

Without signing Deron or Howard it'll be 5 years or more of just mediocrity (like the Spurs) and then the Lakers will go into rebuilding mode and hope they're able to get a future superstar player in the draft.

Kobe won't ask for a trade :lol, he knows he's stuck here with that contract. Money, franchise history, good FO and simply being in LA means they will have the pick of the crop of FAs. Unlike Spurs whom depend solely on draft picks, LAL has a lot of escape routes when they hit rock bottom.

DeadlyDynasty
03-14-2012, 02:53 PM
Hooks is deathly afraid of the Lakers getting Howard:lol

Mugen
03-14-2012, 02:55 PM
as long as Mike Brown is the head coach of the lakers, I'm good.

Kai
03-14-2012, 02:59 PM
lol Dwight trolled NJ/Dal big time. He's staying in Orlando next year :lmao

Hooks
03-14-2012, 03:00 PM
Kobe won't ask for a trade :lol, he knows he's stuck here with that contract. Money, franchise history, good FO and simply being in LA means they will have the pick of the crop of FAs. Unlike Spurs whom depend solely on draft picks, LAL has a lot of escape routes when they hit rock bottom.


L.A is going to need a super star player to help them win that championship, a guy who can turn the whole team around like Nowitzki, Rose, Howard, D-Will, Durant, Wade, Bron, etc. there are just a handful of them.

I really doubt the Lakers will be able to get any of those players via trade or free agency.


What makes you think he won't ask for a trade? He wants to win period, the guy can't stand losing, we've all seen how angry he gets with his own teammates when he loses, or how he wanted a trade when he knew he couldn't win with L.A.


Kobe isn't a superstar anymore, he's a mediocre player that is chucking up shot after shot after shot (which he's done his WHOLE career), hurting his team rather than helping it. His play is going to get really bad, and he's going to have to change his style of play in order for L.A to win. Someone is going to have to have the balls to tell him to stop chucking and it'll create a lot of problems.

ffadicted
03-14-2012, 04:49 PM
NJ isn't gonna win anything with or without Howard this year. Why wouldn't he just pretend that he'll sign with Orlando so the Nets don't have to give up any pieces in a trade?