Worst Spur during the Duncan era?

[Blake]

.....having averaged at least 15 mpg in a season, minimum 50 games (45 for the * season)

[HarlemHeat37]

Off the top of my head..

2001 or so Avery Johnson
2001 or so Samaki Walker
2008 Ime Udoka
2007 Francisco Elson
2003 Steve Smith

Bogans and Mason are up there..

[Chris]

Cherokee Parks

[Cane]

Matt Bonner

[Chris]

Beno Udrih

[Chris]

Nick Van Exel

[timvp]

1999 Steve Kerr
2000 Jaren Jackson
2003 Steve Smith

Off the top of my head. I would say Finley's last year but he broke Pop's heart by asking to be waived sooner than 50 games in.

[ElNono]

Ron Mercer comes to mind, but he only averaged 13 mpg and 39 games.

[ElNono]

Off those listed, Nick Van Exel was really bad.

[slick'81]

thats easy richard jefferson

[ElNono]

Hedo in the playoffs is another one...

[ElNono]

His midrange shot was money the first half of that season, but when it fell off it fell pretty hard. We decided we didn't need him with Manu and Turkoglu already playing that position...

He was lazy and had an attitude... we couldn't get rid of him quick enough

[ElNono]

2002 Danny Ferry

[Chris]

Danny Ferry qualifies

[Chris]

fucker :lol

[Chris]

2004-2005 Devin Brown

[DesignatedT]

Vaughn, Bonner don't deserve to be on that. Udoka actually played well his first year and at times. Overall all 3 of them shouldn't be on there. If you want to talk about individual years or stints then that is different but overall in their time here no.

[ElNono]

2000 Jerome Kersey

[Chris]

2009-2010 Keith "The Centerpiece" Bogans

[Chris]

2009-2010 Roger Mason Jr.

[Leetonidas]

Bogans
Mason
Elson
Udoka
Van Exel

absolutely awful players

[baseline bum]

I have to go with Udoka, as I seriously cannot remember a single good memory of his time on the Spurs. Kersey and Vaughn belong nowhere near this list, as Kersey gave the Spurs some really nice minutes (including a 40 foot shot at the buzzer) against LA in the 99 title run. Then Vaughn hit a couple of really big shots late in the 3rd to put Phoenix away in game 6 in 2007. Udoka on the other hand was brought in to be a defensive player, but ended up looking as bad as Steve Smith, Antonio Daniels, and Derek Anderson guarding the swing positions.

[silverblk mystix]

Bonner...

But Finley actually started this garbage that Pop is infatuated with...

[baseline bum]

1999 Steve Kerr
2000 Jaren Jackson
2003 Steve Smith

Off the top of my head. I would say Finley's last year but he broke Pop's heart by asking to be waived sooner than 50 games in.

Thankfully Kerr made up for it by giving the team some really good minutes backing up the point in 03 when Claxton got hurt. Post-contract JJ was bad; I don't know if he was Udoka bad, but what a falloff.

[Leetonidas]

I still can't believe the Spurs brought Udoka back a second time for a little while

[timvp]

I have to go with Udoka, as I seriously cannot remember a single good memory of his time on the Spurs. Kersey and Vaughn belong nowhere near this list, as Kersey gave the Spurs some really nice minutes (including a 40 foot shot at the buzzer) against LA in the 99 title run. Then Vaughn hit a couple of really big shots late in the 3rd to put Phoenix away in game 6 in 2007. Udoka on the other hand was brought in to be a defensive player, but ended up looking as bad as Steve Smith, Antonio Daniels, and Derek Anderson guarding the swing positions.

2009 Udoka was so ridiculously slow it was hard to watch. I forgive 2008 Udoka because the Spurs probably don't win the Hornets series without his surprisingly hot shooting. Looking back at it, he was 11-for-17 on threes in the final four games of that series. Not sure what the hell got into him, tbh.


Unfortunately, Pop decided to put him on Kobe in Game 1 of the WCF for no good reason in what I consider to be his worst coaching move ever.

:pctoss

[timvp]

I still can't believe the Spurs brought Udoka back a second time for a little while

Yeah, if we are talking about worst player with no restrictions, 2011 Udoka has a damn good case. :lol

[Thompson]

Udoka and Mason don't belong in there. They may have disappointed compared to some of the expectations set for them, but they had good moments. As for Udoka I have only a couple vague positive memories, plus the reverse dunk against the Hornets in a tight series; Roger won games for us against the Suns on Christmas, the Lakers, the Celtics, and a few other games. Plus that first year he was great ('Money Mason').

Pop playing Nick Van Exel alone (though other things contributed also) might have cost us a championship (and a back-to-back championship at that).

[Capt Bringdown]

It's RJ by a country mile. Everyone else cited is pretty much a scrub, and there's nothing noteworthy about a turd playing like a turd.

RJ went from being a fairly decent scorer to being an astonishingly awful player the moment he put on a Spurs uniform.
From 19.6 ppg to 12.3 ppg in his first year as a Spur doesn't adequately capture how far he fell off when he came to San Antonio imo. He hasn't fit in in any way, shape or form.
Look at him now - he looks like he doesn't even belong in the league. Pretty amazing for a guy who hasn't suffered any major injuries and averaged nearly 23pts a game not that long ago.

[JR3]

I voted Nick. He was worthless. The other guys provided some kind of value at some point or at least contributed in a game that mattered at some point.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

1999 Steve Kerr
2000 Jaren Jackson
2003 Steve Smith

Off the top of my head. I would say Finley's last year but he broke Pop's heart by asking to be waived sooner than 50 games in.

Crofl, I remember mookie joking in 03 how it wasn't possible for someone to stay that cold for so long

[Libri]

A lot of good candidates.

[baseline bum]

2009 Udoka was so ridiculously slow it was hard to watch. I forgive 2008 Udoka because the Spurs probably don't win the Hornets series without his surprisingly hot shooting. Looking back at it, he was 11-for-17 on threes in the final four games of that series. Not sure what the hell got into him, tbh.


Unfortunately, Pop decided to put him on Kobe in Game 1 of the WCF for no good reason in what I consider to be his worst coaching move ever.

:pctoss

Wow, I never knew Udoka hit a three in a Spurs uniform. I must have been drunk those 4 games tbh.

[Capt Bringdown]

Hmm, on second thought when you consider how much undeserved trust Pop invests in Bonner, and how bad Bonner actually is...

[Leetonidas]

Matt Bonner is nowhere near the worst Spur in the Duncan era

[Capt Bringdown]

Matt Bonner is nowhere near the worst Spur in the Duncan era
There have certainly been less talented players, but:

Bonner's a turd who on rare occasions looks decent in meaningless, regular season games. He's also a big factor in the Spurs turning away from sound, fundamental defense-oriented basketball and embracing spread-the-floor nonsense.

Pop continues to invest in this turd. Bonner has damaged our championship ambitions immensely.

[Leetonidas]

Really it started with Horry. You can blame Pop's idiocy for thinking Bonner could ever be Robert Horry

[Arcadian]

Mengke Bateer

[TJastal]

1. Richard Jefferson
2. "The centerpiece" Keith Bogan
3. Matt Bonner (he's on this list because of his complete lack of playoff success, which is astonishing given how many games he's been in)
4. Dejuan Blair
5. Nick Van Exel / Damon Stoudemire (both we're equally bad)

[DMC]

Devin Brown?

[DMC]

There have certainly been less talented players, but:

Bonner's a turd who on rare occasions looks decent in meaningless, regular season games. He's also a big factor in the Spurs turning away from sound, fundamental defense-oriented basketball and embracing spread-the-floor nonsense.

Pop continues to invest in this turd. Bonner has damaged our championship ambitions immensely.
I have to disagree with Bonner being a factor in the Spurs' decision to become more offensive at the cost of defense. Bonner is a player, he has nothing to do with that decision. He was a shitty defender before management decided to go offensive, it just happened that was his strength in meaningless games.

[spurbyheart]

Richard Jefferson, because so much expected from him!

[therealtruth]

There have certainly been less talented players, but:

Bonner's a turd who on rare occasions looks decent in meaningless, regular season games. He's also a big factor in the Spurs turning away from sound, fundamental defense-oriented basketball and embracing spread-the-floor nonsense.

Pop continues to invest in this turd. Bonner has damaged our championship ambitions immensely.

I agree. Horry might be more responsible though. He got Pop infatuated with the idea of a stretch 4. But Horry was a good power forward that could hit 3's, not a power forward that could only hit 3's.

[baseline bum]

1. Richard Jefferson
2. "The centerpiece" Keith Bogan
3. Matt Bonner (he's on this list because of his complete lack of playoff success, which is astonishing given how many games he's been in)
4. Dejuan Blair
5. Nick Van Exel / Damon Stoudemire (both we're equally bad)

Stoudamire was pretty good running the point until Pop told him to be a scorer instead of a distributor.

[TJastal]

Stoudamire was pretty good running the point until Pop told him to be a scorer instead of a distributor.

That was what, all of 1 or 2 games maybe before he fell off the ledge?

:lol

[Proxy]

Hedo in the playoffs is another one...

I support this statement

[100%duncan]

Dick

[Cow Eye]

I agree. Horry might be more responsible though. He got Pop infatuated with the idea of a stretch 4. But Horry was a good power forward that could hit 3's, not a power forward that could only hit 3's.

You know, I never thought about that before, but you're right. Pop is jonesing for some Horry action-satisfaction™.

Just let it go, Pop. Let it go... :bang

[gospursgojas]

Jackie butler

[blkroadrunners]

I's go w/ Elson. I still remember flashbacks of the Spurs/Suns series of him blowing easy layups and dunks.

[will_spurs]

Keith "The Centerpiece" Bogans.

Not only was he a negative factor on the court, but he took the spot of younger players and/or halted their development, just because he was a "veteran". Bogans never had its moment, he was useless from start to finish. A complete black hole.

NVE is a close second.

[Texas_Ranger]

Dick, I didnt expect a lot from those other guys, but from a 20 pt. guy I sure dis expect more.

[cheguevara]

As much as Dick Jefferson sucks and what an asshole he is, I cannot forget the way DickVanExel hurt us in the playoffs vs. the Mavs. he singlehandedly lost us that game 2.

[bus driver]

2009-2010 roger mason jr.

winner !!!!

[Capt Bringdown]

I agree. Horry might be more responsible though. He got Pop infatuated with the idea of a stretch 4. But Horry was a good power forward that could hit 3's, not a power forward that could only hit 3's.

Hard if not impossible to conceive that Pop would look at Bonner and think "I've got another Horry on my hands," but you're probably right.
Everyone makes mistakes, but to keep pressing that button when there's no evidence, NONE that it'll work is beyond delusional.
Call it what it is: incompetent

[timtonymanu]

Oh man Van Exel was terrible.

I agree with Capt Bringdown. Considering what RJ was brought in for, he gets my vote. You can't expect much out of scrubs, but RJ wasn't one before he got here.

:lol Udoka. I actually remember some posters wanted him back following the 08 season.

[Spurs Brazil]

2003 Smith, Udoka and Jefferson

[xellos88330]

Van Exel for me.

[z0sa]

I have to go with Udoka, as I seriously cannot remember a single good memory of his time on the Spurs.

That one reverse dunk off a bounce pass from Manu (?) in the final game of the regular season is all I can remember. Dude bricked a bunch of three pointers and never played nearly as well on D as he was "billed" to.

[bbarry]

anyone who says RJ or Bonner is retarded.

[dbestpro]

Where's Blair?

[bigbendbruisebrother]

He-don't Turkoglu. Dude couldn't hit the broad side of a barn in 2003-2004.

[Brazil]

Bogans for me

[BRs.Ganso]

2004-2005 Devin Brown

Devin Brown LOOOOOOST IT!!! here comes McGrady no timeouts remaining... :lol

[bonesinaz]

Hita anyone?:lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

jackie butler, dblairs older brother...