Really Republican base? Santorum?

[LnGrrrR]

I feel like there's a giant "You got Punk'd" episode going on. Does the base really think Santorum has a chance against Obama? Mitt Romney should just pull out now and leave the election to these nitwits, so they can nominate someone even more to the right next cycle.

[CosmicCowboy]

:depressed

[hater]

why wouldn't he have a chance vs. Obama? Obama already has over 45% of the country that truly dislikes, if not hates him. They won't change their minds.

will Santorum likely beat him? no but he'd give Obama a run for his money.

BTW if Santorum becomes US president I am out of here

[coyotes_geek]

CG's summation of the "logic" behind supporting Santorum: The more people we exclude from "the family", the more people will respect our dedication to "family values" and will vote for us accordingly.

[CosmicCowboy]

Fortunately Romney is still leading by over 250 delegates after yesterday.

[clambake]

is that fortunate?

[coyotes_geek]

It's all relative. But yeah, it is fortunate.

[CosmicCowboy]

is that fortunate?

In my opinion. I really can't stand Santorum. He might be a nice guy but I don't need a President whose #1 issues are socially divisive issues.

[z0sa]

Santorum is the epitome of what's wrong with the Neo-Conservative movement. They aren't conservatives or constitutionalists for the most part, just a bunch of out of touch religite nuts.

[CosmicCowboy]

I will be sick if my choice on November 6 is Obama or Santorum. That might just be the first presidential election I skip since I was old enough to vote.

[EVAY]

I will be sick if my choice on November 6 is Obama or Santorum. That might just be the first presidential election I skip since I was old enough to vote.

Me too.

[cheguevara]

LOL thinking Romney would do any better than Santorum.

the neocons will ride Romney like Kim Kardashian at a BET Awards after party

Romney is gutless. When is the last time he took a stand?

Rove and the rest of the neoscum are salivating at the thought of having this figurehead in power.

[LnGrrrR]

I just went to his "Issues" page... I swear, it's like reading an Onion article.
http://www.ricksantorum.com/issues

Here are the issues in order, and their summary (note, there's about a million of these... I'm not quite sure Santorum knows what an "issues" page is supposed to look like):

First 100 Days Economic Freedom Agenda - More oil!

No More Leading from Behind for America - Muslims bad!

We Hold These Truths - Gays can't produce children so they shouldn't be able to marry!

Unleashing America's Domestic Energy - More (domestic) oil!

Bold Solutions for America’s Families - Magical fantasyland nonsense that I'll never be able to pass! (Oh, and TRIPLE the child deduction for taxes... I bet you Republicans would LOVE that!)

Immigration Reform: Securing And Strengthing America - They derk er jerbs!

ObamaRegs Versus Freedom - Family! More corporate freedom! Together!

Santorum Record on Defending the Dignity of Every Human Life - Abortion = bad!

Appointing Constitutionalist Justices and Judges Who Refuse to Legislate from the Bench - "Activist judges" = Lefty judges = BAD!

Restoring America's Greatness Through Educational Freedom And Opportunity - Dept of Education sucks!

Defending 2nd Amendment Rights - They derk er guns!

Repeal and Replace ObamaCare with Patient-Centered Healthcare - Fantasy nonsense land part II! Now with more ponies!

Spending Cuts and Entitlements Reform - Taxes = bad!

Made in America - Taxes bad! Family good!

Response to Iran - Bomb, bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran

Executive Branch Actions - Family family family something family

Champion of Faith and Families - Duh

Defender of the Taxpayer - Taxes = bad (on a side note... champion? Defender? Who does this guy think he is?)

Believer in American Exceptionalism - Duh

Enforcing Laws against Illegal Pornography - Really? This is an issue you had to take a stand on?

[CosmicCowboy]

LOL thinking Romney would fare any better than Santorum.

the neocons will ride Romney like Kim Kardashian at a BET Awards after party

I think Romney stands a much better chance of defeating Obama. When the primaries are finally over the hard core conservatives will still hate Obama much more than Romney and will unite behind him.

[cheguevara]

I think Romney stands a much better chance of defeating Obama. When the primaries are finally over the hard core conservatives will still hate Obama much more than Romney and will unite behind him.

by fare I meant do a better job as president.

wait, are you actually more worried about Obama winning than a Santorum presidency??

[CosmicCowboy]

by fare I meant do a better job as president.

wait, are you actually more worried about Obama winning than a Santorum presidency??

Well, there's no way Santorum can actually get any of his bullshit social issues enacted into law. Obama on the other hand, with 4 more years and not having to run for re-election can do a LOT of damage.

[EVAY]

I think Romney stands a much better chance of defeating Obama. When the primaries are finally over the hard core conservatives will still hate Obama much more than Romney and will unite behind him.

Well, one thing is for sure: If Romney ends up getting the nomination, he will certainly owe NOTHING to the far-right core.

I think that how he governs will be a function of which congress he ends up with. I think he is more like Clinton than anyone we have seen since Clinton, inasmuch as Clinton never met a principle he wasn't wiling to abandon and neither has Romney. I think he will go along with things that Congress wants.


BUT...if Romney runs on a "We need to lower taxes by a huge amount on the top earners in the country, I predict he will get beat with the Obama slogan.."Didn't we try this several times and it didn't work out so well?

[EVAY]

I don't trust Romney, but I fear that a second term Obama will see him move further to the left because he won't have to run again and he will try to 'leave his legacy'. That is what W. did (except that he governed further to the right)/

I think that second terms are very scary, because there is nothing to rein them in.

[CosmicCowboy]

Republican far right conservatives still like mormons better than uppity blacks...

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[EVAY]

Republican far right conservatives still like mormons better than uppity blacks...

upvZdVK913I

I still LOL at that movie. It has more hysterical politically incorrect laugh lines by far than about ten other movies of similar genres.

[cheguevara]

Well, there's no way Santorum can actually get any of his bullshit social issues enacted into law. Obama on the other hand, with 4 more years and not having to run for re-election can do a LOT of damage.

so that's a yes? :wow

a crazy neocon who wants to push his religious ideology onto people by force if necessary would be 1000x more dangerous than Barry. he might not enact his social laws but don't forget he is the Commander in Chief. He'd probably start WWIII

[CosmicCowboy]

so that's a yes? :wow

a crazy neocon who wants to push his religious ideology onto people by force if necessary would be 1000x more dangerous than Barry

Like I said...there's no way he gets his dumb ass social issues through congress and the supreme court.

[cheguevara]

Like I said...there's no way he gets his dumb ass social issues through congress and the supreme court.


he might not enact his social laws but don't forget he is the Commander in Chief. He'd probably start WWIII

[cheguevara]

"Once Iran Has Nukes You Will Not Be Safe In Missouri ..."

:lmao

[CosmicCowboy]

Yeah, and Obama is such a pacifist...:rolleyes

[Wild Cobra]

Fortunately Romney is still leading by over 250 delegates after yesterday.
Are those numbers actual, or estimated?

[CosmicCowboy]

eh...well I didn't count them myself but that is what CNN is reporting...

http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/primaries/scorecard/statebystate/r

[TheProfessor]

Like I said...there's no way he gets his dumb ass social issues through congress and the supreme court.
Get what you're saying, but the President has broader authority than what he can force through Congress - executive orders, rulemaking authority, recess appointments, and military decisions, to name a few. I'm not exactly inspired by either Obama or Romney, but Santorum's a disaster waiting to happen.

[Creepn]

Santorum is the epitome of what's wrong with the Neo-Conservative movement. They aren't conservatives or constitutionalists for the most part, just a bunch of out of touch religite nuts.

Totally agree.

If Santorum was a female, her name would be Crookshanks.

[CosmicCowboy]

Get what you're saying, but the President has broader authority than what he can force through Congress - executive orders, rulemaking authority, recess appointments, and military decisions, to name a few. I'm not exactly inspired by either Obama or Romney, but Santorum's a disaster waiting to happen.

Obama is the poster boy for executive abuse. Him in a second term scares me much more than Santorum in a first term.

That being said, Santorum still turns my stomach. I am now firmly in the Romney camp as the lesser of evils.

[LnGrrrR]

That being said, Santorum still turns my stomach. I am now firmly in the Romney camp as the lesser of evils.

Romney is pretty much a Republican-flavored Obama. They're not that far apart on a lot of issues.

Santorum is a jackass of all trades.

[ElNono]

Well, there's no way Santorum can actually get any of his bullshit social issues enacted into law. Obama on the other hand, with 4 more years and not having to run for re-election can do a LOT of damage.

Not without controlling Congress, tbh... I expect him to be fairly lame duck, much like Jr's 2nd term...

[Jacob1983]

Santorum claiming to be a conservative is like Stern saying that Donaghy was the only dirty ref. It's a big ass lie.
Ron Paul is the most conservative candidate in the GOP field.

Being a conservative means you want less government and less spending and you actually you try to save money.

People think banning abortion and killing gay people are conservative ideas. A true conservative would want abortion and gay marriage to be decided by either the states or local communities.

[SnakeBoy]

I will be sick if my choice on November 6 is Obama or Santorum. That might just be the first presidential election I skip since I was old enough to vote.

If Santorum gets the nomination I'm not skipping the election, I'll be voting for Obama and trying to get anyone I know to do the same. A President Santorum would pretty much destroy the Republican party if he did manage to win somehow. Fortunately the anti mormon bible thumpers won't be able to carry Santorum across the finish line....I hope.

[Bill_Brasky]

Wow Repubs. Wow.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

I will be sick if my choice on November 6 is Obama or Santorum. That might just be the first presidential election I skip since I was old enough to vote.


I think Romney stands a much better chance of defeating Obama. When the primaries are finally over the hard core conservatives will still hate Obama much more than Romney and will unite behind him.

So, you give yourself three choices in the Santorum scenario(Rick,Barak,stay home), but the "other" conservatives only have two in the Romney scenario? The problem with "true believers" in your camp is that they cannot make that pragmatic decision. There is a HUGE chunk of Santorum's base that believe that Romney is actually a real live apostate of hell, and they are MUCH more likely to stay home on election day than you are if Santorum gets the nod. It won't take that damn many of them, either, to tip the election. GOP margins are always small and well calculated in a non-incumbant election cycle.

[MannyIsGod]

why wouldn't he have a chance vs. Obama? Obama already has over 45% of the country that truly dislikes, if not hates him. They won't change their minds.

will Santorum likely beat him? no but he'd give Obama a run for his money.

BTW if Santorum becomes US president I am out of here


I will be sick if my choice on November 6 is Obama or Santorum. That might just be the first presidential election I skip since I was old enough to vote.


Me too.

[Goran Dragic]

If Santorum was a female, her name would be Crookshanks.
:lmao

[MannyIsGod]

I don't think many people here understand that one of the biggest factors in who's going to win is voter enthusiasm. Its down on both sides of the aisle, but I definitely feel its down more on the GOP side regardless of who gets the ultimate nod. If its Romney, I doubt the south shows up in good numbers to vote. If its Santorum, I think the moderate GOP everywhere just sits it out. Obama is going to have people like me who will not vote for him all over the place, but - and this is just my anecdote although I think polling data will eventually back it up - the numbers are much smaller because people hate to turn their back on their guy.

[MannyIsGod]

Totally agree.

If Santorum was a female, her name would be Crookshanks.

Oh shit. :lol !!!!

[coyotes_geek]

If its Romney, I doubt the south shows up in good numbers to vote. If its Santorum, I think the moderate GOP everywhere just sits it out.

Yep. Romney not being able to motivate southern state evangelicals doesn't hurt the GOP's chances nearly as bad as Santorum not being able to motivate swing state moderates.

[Goran Dragic]

Crookshanks has probably the highest stupidity:post ratio in the political forum.

[Winehole23]

http://www.wparesearch.com/polling/wpa-releases-gop-presidential-ballot-in-texas/