Buy out candidates: Diaw or Kaman?

[MaNu4Tres]

If/when both are bought out, who should Spurs pursue the hardest?


IMO: Kaman obv.

[ajballer4]

For sure Kaman. Taller and more talented

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Kaman. He's Boston bound, though IMO.

[Leetonidas]

Both

[Duncan2177]

Kaman

[biziofromdowntown]

Kaman, but he's just a dream

[timvp]

Neither a perfect fit but I'd take either one. I guess Kaman first but they're just about equal.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Kaman for sure but Diaw is the realistic option

[MaNu4Tres]

Kaman. He's Boston bound, though IMO.

Money talks and Spurs have more to offer.

[MaNu4Tres]

Kaman. He's Boston bound, though IMO.

Money talks and Spurs have more to offer if he's bought out.

[TDMVPDPOY]

need a real big man,

either one would do and relegate blair to the end of the bench

[ffadicted]

Spurs have the most money to offer Caman, and a great 'chip opportunity once he comes. We're definitly in the conversation, and he's the obvious choice over diaw

[will_spurs]

I'd go with Kaman first, but a) I don't think the NBA Hornets are going to buy him out because that would be a gift to big market teams and b) would he come to SA? Always the same problem.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

need a real big man,

either one would do and relegate blair to the end of the bench
you really think Kaman & pops love for bonner wouldnt push blair to the end of the bench?

Edit. sorry. thought is said neither. lol

[lefty]

Caveman



Diaw is fat

[Drewlius]

Shit, I know he has a lot of haters, but I'd like to pickup D. Fish as our backup if/when he is bought out.

[sehui]

Are we the number one option for Kaman? We can offer him the most money! However, if he goes to the Heat...oh god. He definitely wouldnt get as much playing time with Bosh though in my opinion, as compared to with Tim Duncan.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Shit, I know he has a lot of haters, but I'd like to pickup D. Fish as our backup if/when he is bought out.

Not a bad idea, actually. We need somebody to replace Ford.

[cheguevara]

Parker
Manu
Jax
Duncan
Kaman

best starting 5 in the league

[cheguevara]

Parker
Manu
Jax
Duncan
Kaman

best starting 5 in the league

[Paranoid Pop]

Kaman to Miami would be scary but I'd rather get Diaw.

[Bruno]

If Pop is ready to play Splitter alongside Duncan for extended minutes, Kaman is the better option. However, if he isn't, Kaman will just take away Splitter's minutes.

Diaw would be a nice addition.

[venitian navigator]

Frankly I'd love to have them both...we just are two big men short...
And Fisher like a pg back up wouldn't be bad either.

[Spurs da champs]

I'd go with Kaman first, but a) I don't think the NBA Hornets are going to buy him out because that would be a gift to big market teams and b) would he come to SA? Always the same problem.

I see him going to the spurs or celtics, but I can't see him going to Miami the dude is a fucking monster literally so I don't see why he'd go to Miami.

[Kuestmaster]

kaman and it's not even close. Boston ain't winning shit this year and we can offer more money, hope he sees that.

[wildbill2u]

For sure Kaman. Taller and more talented

Watched Kaman play a whole game last night. Boy is he stupid and sloppy. Bad passes, bad shot selection, bad defense helped Lakers get back in the game.

In the overtime, NO lost it mostly because Kaman made some key stupid sloppy turnovers.

I know he's coming back from an injury, but it wasn't to his brain so that is no excuse.

I bet his teammates are pissed this morning since they had a good chance to beat the Lakers and that would be a morale booster & feather in the hat for those guys.

[cheguevara]

Watched Kaman play a whole game last night. Boy is he stupid and sloppy. Bad passes, bad shot selection, bad defense helped Lakers get back in the game.

In the overtime, NO lost it mostly because Kaman made some key stupid sloppy turnovers.

I know he's coming back from an injury, but it wasn't to his brain so that is no excuse.

I bet his teammates are pissed this morning since they had a good chance to beat the Lakers and that would be a morale booster & feather in the hat for those guys.

yeah but the other option is this faggot

http://medias2.lesdessousdusport.fr/image/article/insolite/baskett/nba/1_c08ff5ed5bf7794e3d22e9b3c4ad41c4_475.jpg

[dougp]

I wonder if Camby could be bought out by the Rockets. The trade was obviously for cap space, so they don't really lose anything other than a non-lottery draft pick.

[GSH]

Tony, Manu, SJax, Tim, and Kaman. (What would that lineup have done to Memphis last year?) The Spurs would have to be a big favorite to win the West, and would be a legitimate threat to win it all.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

I wonder if Camby could be bought out by the Rockets. The trade was obviously for cap space, so they don't really lose anything other than a non-lottery draft pick.
if he is bought out he would just sign with Heat, Knicks, or Clippers.

[baseline bum]

Fuck both of them; I want Fisher.

[anonoftheinternets]

ugh ... please keep fisher away from SA, Diaw would be good, i have my doubts about Kaman, not the sharpest tool in the kit, plus he would be competition for splitter we dont need that.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Is it economically feasible to get both, if they wanted to?

[Paranoid Pop]

yeah but the other option is this pimp

http://static8.businessinsider.com/image/4d2f7baa4bd7c8587d160000/boris-diaw-charlotte-bobcats-nba.jpg

fixed

[HarlemHeat37]

Splitter is easily better than Kaman, one of the most overrated players of the past 5 years..

Diaw is fat, but he would give us a better shot at seeing a Duncan-Splitter frontcourt..

[dougp]

if he is bought out he would just sign with Heat, Knicks, or Clippers.

I didn't say I wanted him on the Spurs - but he would be a "bigger" name than Kaman or Diaw, so Boston and Miami would probably try for him over the other two. Just sayin'

[baseline bum]

Fisher is an all-time clutch player. It would be great to have him in the 02-03 Steve Kerr role.

[timtonymanu]

Fisher is an all-time clutch player. It would be great to have him in the 02-03 Steve Kerr role.

That would the biggest "FU" to the Lakers. That being said, he probably goes to the East and plays with Miami.

[timtonymanu]

And I would rather have Diaw. Kaman's a Center. We need a power forward.

[MaNu4Tres]

Fisher is an all-time clutch player. It would be great to have him in the 02-03 Steve Kerr role.

Fisher is done and can't guard a lick, tbh.

See 2006 Nick Van Exel.

That being said, I rather Spurs start Jackson and Leonard and have Manu/Neal off the bench sharing the PnR PG duties.

I wouldn't want Fisher eating some of Neal/Leonard's minutes come playoff time.

[DJB]

I've always wanted Camby in a Spurs jersey. Would be a great compliment to Timmy.

[baseline bum]

Fisher is done and can't guard a lick, tbh.

See 2006 Nick Van Exel.

That being said, I rather Spurs start Jackson and Leonard and have Manu/Neal off the bench sharing the PnR PG duties.

I wouldn't want Fisher eating some of Neal/Leonard's minutes come playoff time.

The 02-03 Kerr role was to come in and hit shots if your other guards are having an awful game or in foul trouble. Fisher would be killer in this role of 5-10 minutes here and there.

[baseline bum]

The Spurs were really close to signing Fisher in the summer of 99, so maybe they can convince him now once Houston buys him out.

[MaNu4Tres]

The 02-03 Kerr role was to come in and hit shots if your other guards are having an awful game or in foul trouble. Fisher would be killer in this role of 5-10 minutes here and there.

I wouldn't be opposed to it if it's for the minimum.

The mini-MLE should be used to reel in another big man though.

[will_spurs]

The Spurs were really close to signing Fisher in the summer of 99, so maybe they can convince him now once Houston buys him out.

I'd be too worried about him shooting toward the wrong basket when we meet the Fakers, tbh. He's a Faker at heart, there's just no way around it.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Kaman by a mile!

this is not difficult.

[Spurs Brazil]

This is starting to look great

Jax is here and Jefferson is gone.

Now I hope we can add Kaman or Diaw to take Bonner and Blair minutes

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

I didn't say I wanted him on the Spurs - but he would be a "bigger" name than Kaman or Diaw, so Boston and Miami would probably try for him over the other two. Just sayin'
still it would be an automatic signing with the heat. Boston is in horrible shape and TBH i dont see why they are #1 on Kamans list. they wouldnt even make it to the 2nd round.

[Paranoid Pop]

This is starting to look great

Jax is here and Jefferson is gone.

Now I hope we can add Kaman or Diaw to take Bonner and Blair minutes

How would a center take minutes away from our two PF :wakeup?

[Anonymous Cowherd]

I've heard Tim Duncan can play a bit at the 4.

[sehui]

I've heard Tim Duncan can play a bit at the 4.

Wher'd you hear that from?

[Steve-O-Matic]

Bobcats GM Rod Higgins said a Boris Diaw buyout will be discussed in the next few days.
The Bobcats were predictably unable to find a trade partner, but that doesn't change the fact that coach Paul Silas has seen enough of Diaw. If a buyout can be reached, the Spurs and Knicks are rumored to be interested. Diaw would land as a backup in both spots.
Source: Rick Bonnell on Twitter Mar 15 - 4:49 PM

[Leetonidas]

I think Diaw would be starting pretty quick if he came to SA. Blair is awful

[Mugen]

Diaw.

We already have two above average centers. We should have at least one average PF.

[Steve-O-Matic]

The Cavs have no plans to buy out Antawn Jamison, a source tells the Plain Dealer.
The Cavs are just two games out of the final playoff spot in the East and Jamison continues to play at an extremely high level. A buyout wouldn't make much sense. They'll simply let his $15 million contract expire at the end of the season and move on. Jamison is averaging 23.5 points and playing 34.4 minutes per night over his last eight games.
Source: Plain Dealer on Twitter Mar 15 - 5:12 PM

[tmtcsc]

Kaman. Easily.

[DAF86]

I hope we get one of these two, if not I would have rather traded our first round pick to get Jordan Hill instead of S-Jax

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

something wrong with you if want a fat Diaw over a legit 7 footer who can score in the post, shoot the J, rebound, & defend but again diaw is the realistic signing and i welcome him with open arms.

[lmbebo]

wanna start the Oden talk? (Playing days are likely over unfortunately, but I can see Miami or Boston taking a hard look at him)


ESPN Stein
Source w/knowledge of Blazers' thinking says team has informed Greg Oden's camp that Oden is being waived for needed roster room after deals

[Leetonidas]

Miami will go after him and hopefully that will free Kaman for the Spurs' taking. Too bad we couldn't have dumped Blair to nab both Diaw/Kaman

[Mugen]

Antawn Jamison sucks.



No, we have an above average center and an above average power forward who's playing center so we don't have the turd tower frontcourt out there at any time.

I'd take Chris Kaman any day of the month. Tim can start next to him and we'll have a damn awesome rotation.

Parker/Neal/Manu
Manu/Neal/Green/Anderson
Jackson/Leonard/Green/Anderson
Duncan/Bonner
Kaman/Splitter

Title contender for sure...

Timmy hasn't been a power forward for almost 10 years now.

[Mugen]

I hope we get one of these two, if not I would have rather traded our first round pick to get Jordan Hill instead of S-Jax

that's just silly.

[Leetonidas]

Timmy hasn't been a power forward for almost 10 years now.

So Oberto/Elson were the PFs on the 2007 title team despite not being able to hit a shot outside of 8 feet? DeJuan Blair is also a powerforward with his inability to defend the perimeter whatsoever and shoot anywhere except for right in front of the rim? C'mon dude, Duncan with his midrange game can still play the PF

[DAF86]

that's just silly.

Why? I would have rather gamble on the bigman position than on the wing.

[Mugen]

So Oberto/Elson were the PFs on the 2007 title team despite not being able to hit a shot outside of 8 feet? DeJuan Blair is also a powerforward with his inability to defend the perimeter whatsoever and shoot anywhere except for right in front of the rim? C'mon dude, Duncan with his midrange game can still play the PF

what about defensively?

[timvp]

I hope we get one of these two, if not I would have rather traded our first round pick to get Jordan Hill instead of S-Jax

S-Jax + $11 million savings - RJ >>>>>>>> a player who would most likely serve as the fifth bigman

[Mugen]

Why? I would have rather gamble on the bigman position than on the wing.

Granted, but you'd really rather gamble on Jordan Hill, a proven bust, over Jax, a proven clutch player?

[DAF86]

I don't believe in clutch.

[Ditty]

Give Kaman the MLE, and Diaw the minimum

Fuck the luxury tax now

Kaman/Splitter
Duncan/Diaw
Jackson/Leonard
Manu/Green
Parker/Neal

we stackeddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[HarlemHeat37]

Pop wouldn't have given Jordan Hill minutes over Blair..

Kaman and Duncan wouldn't be able to start together..they would be too slow..I also don't know where the perception of Kaman's defense was created, he's actually a poor defender..

I would still take him over Blair, easily, but he hasn't been a positive impact player in years..

[DAF86]

Probably. I just like his skill-set: shotblocker with a jumpshot.

[Mugen]

I don't believe in clutch.

Do you believe in choking?

[DAF86]

Yes. But I wasn't sold on RJ beign a choker yet.

[DJB]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/#%21/WojYahooNBA) Follow

Miami, Boston, San Antonio will be aggressive suitors for Chris Kaman should he inevitably be bought out of Hornets deal, sources tell Y!


https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/180363487384584192




Guarantee he goes to Miami, if bought out. Duh.

[Spurs da champs]

Damn Diaw is overrated on here, I doubt he'd be any better then Blair given his current shape/condition.

[Mugen]

Yes. But I wasn't sold on RJ beign a choker yet.

Got it. Two straight years was enough for me.

[Steve-O-Matic]

Not that he'd be of interest to the Spurs, but just on the subject of buyout talk....


Raja Bell will not try to negotiate a buyout with the Jazz, a source tells beat writer Brian Smith.

Source: Brian Smith on Twitter Mar 15 - 5:59 PM

[DJB]

Give Kaman the MLE

Pipe dream, sir. :tu

[DJB]

Not that he'd be of interest to the Spurs, but just on the subject of buyout talk....


Raja Bell will not try to negotiate a buyout with the Jazz, a source tells beat writer Brian Smith.

Source: Brian Smith on Twitter Mar 15 - 5:59 PM

That's big. I would much like Raja behind Manu instead of Danny fucking Green.

[sehui]

Pipe dream, sir. :tu

Why is that a pipe dream? Didnt Woj or Spears say the Spurs could offer Kaman like a min-MLE compared to the vet mins from Heat and Celts?



Regarding Raja Bell, he's a good defender, but I really don't think we need him. With Neal and Green, we are fine in the 2 backup spot. Let's not waste our money getting another guard - we need size!

[DJB]

Why is that a pipe dream? Didnt Woj or Spears say the Spurs could offer Kaman like a min-MLE compared to the vet mins from Heat and Celts?

Link?

[watertorture]

Is there a buyout deadline?
If not, when would a buyout likely happen?

[Barfunk]

I don't believe in clutch.

I do. :toast

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Is there a buyout deadline?
If not, when would a buyout likely happen?

a week today isn't it?

[Spurs da champs]

You sound like Pop now. Imagine the defense around the rim...and didn't we start two seven-footers for all of our championship runs?

Who would guard the Dirk? Or other quick power forwards?

[Anonymous Cowherd]

Kawhi Leonard :)

[Trimble87]

Who would guard the Dirk? Or other quick power forwards?

Possible playoff match ups that would kill us with Duncan/Kaman:

Dirk
Boozer
Bosh
Z-BO
Gasol

That said. I want the Spurs to try and get him if possible

[Spurs da champs]

Kawhi Leonard :)
What about Marion or Carter?

[DAF86]

Who would guard the Dirk? Or other quick power forwards?


http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Stephen+Jackson+Dirk+Nowitzki+Golden+State+Vk1VBz8 xXhdl.jpg

[pookenstein]

Who would guard the Dirk? Or other quick power forwards?

Yes, but who's guarding them now? Blair/Bonner. Doesn't matter which one of Duncan/Splitter/Kaman or even Diaw you put on Dirk, the outcome won't be worse than with Blair or Bonner.

Also you have the possibility to let Kawhi try to defend them.

[DJB]

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Stephen+Jackson+Dirk+Nowitzki+Golden+State+Vk1VBz8 xXhdl.jpg



:tu

[HarlemHeat37]

My point is that Kaman is not a good defender..his WP/48 has been in the negatives, the past 3 seasons, which is pathetic..he's an asset as a bench player, he would be a great 3rd big..as a starter, he would not work out, especially with an equally slow Duncan, next to him..

Obviously he's a massive upgrade over Blair, but that's not the point..Splitter is better than Kaman, but Pop may end up limiting Splitter's minutes for Kaman, since they play the same position..

Kaman is good as a 3rd big, but that wouldn't be his role with the Spurs..they already have 2 Cs, they can't add a 3rd..

[Texas_Ranger]

Yea, even if Kaman sucks in defense I'd rather watch him play than Dejuan or Bonner. Duncan, Splitter, Kaman would look pretty damn good.

[HarlemHeat37]

I agree, but I'd rather have Diaw..he would be a better fit and he wouldn't touch Splitter's minutes..

[Texas_Ranger]

Also would be a great pickup... Watched him yesterday and he looks like a zombie there in Charlotte, I'm sure he wants to go to another team... First one who gets free, we need to make an offer.

[benefactor]

I agree, but I'd rather have Diaw..he would be a better fit and he wouldn't touch Splitter's minutes..
Agreed. I was on the Kaman bandwagon in years past but now that they have Splitter he's not really needed as Splitter plays the role the Spurs would have wanted Kaman to play. Diaw fits the Spurs needs more at this point.

[Cane]

Kaman. Spurs don't match up well with the Gasols of the league and could use another big . Duncan would help mask Kaman's weaknesses or at least it wouldn't be as exploited as easily as Blair/Bonner. Kaman also has a jumper so he could be paired with the more mobile Splitter.

Kaman also seems to be a huge fan of Duncan's so the chemistry on and off the court could be outstanding even if Duncan doesn't hunt bobcats. Diaw is a more versatile shooter and would have great chemistry with Parker but the Spurs would still be tiring Duncan/Splitter when they have to take on legit centers like Bynum/Gasol. Kaman's also in better shape fwiw

But being financially ignorant I'd say go greedy and try and land both

[Bruno]

Kaman is starting for the Hornets and has 12 points after 10 minutes played.
Diaw has been put on Bobcats inactive list.

It's possible that's the Diaw and/or Kaman question is in fact moot because only Diaw will be bought out.

[angelbelow]

Seeing that our primary need upfront is a 4 rather than a 5, I would prefer Diaw.

[timtonymanu]

It definitely will be much easier to convince Diaw to sign since he knows Tony. I don't see Kaman wanting to play here tbh. Hopefully Diaw is the main target.

[Uriel]

We don't have to choose between the two! We're the favorite to and capabe of signing BOTH.

Favorite for Kaman, because we can offer him the full mini-MLE ($3M) while the Heat and Celtics can only offer the veteran minimum.

Favorite for Diaw, because Parker is here, because we're a contender, and because we're competing against an organization as dysfunctional as the New York Knicks.



Give Kaman the MLE, and Diaw the minimum

Fuck the luxury tax now

Kaman/Splitter
Duncan/Diaw
Jackson/Leonard
Manu/Green
Parker/Neal

we stackeddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[T Park]

not thrilled with the possibility of either one, DIaw's ability to stretch the floor will make Pop's heart pitter patter to the point of an arrhythmia...

[Mel_13]

New Orleans Hornets GM Dell Demps says buyout of Chris Kaman likely not option

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2012/03/new_orleans_hornets_gm_dell_de_5.html




Now, with Diaw playing little for coach Paul Silas, it might make sense to negotiate a buyout that would allow Diaw to sign with a playoff team. Spurs guard Tony Parker has said Diaw would be welcome in San Antonio.

Higgins indicated any buyout discussions would happen in the next few days, if at all. Diaw would have to be waived by March 23 to be eligible for a playoff roster.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2012/03/charotte-bobcats-rod-higgins-on-trade-deadline.html

[Mel_13]

Masai Ujiri said Turiaf will be waived to make room for Wilson Chandler, who Masai thinks could be signed in nxt 2 days.

http://twitter.com/#!/nuggetsnews

[angelbelow]

not thrilled with the possibility of either one, DIaw's ability to stretch the floor will make Pop's heart pitter patter to the point of an arrhythmia...

EricB sighting??

[Russ]

Kaman started tonight: 9 of 15 shooting for 20 points and 7 rebounds.

Buy out?

[DPG21920]

Diaw was deactivated again...

[yavozerb]

I cannot imagine NOH buying out Kaman at this point. I also read somewhere that new owners would likely prefer to re-sign Kaman over cutting him strictly for cap room.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

I cannot imagine NOH buying out Kaman at this point. I also read somewhere that new owners would likely prefer to re-sign Kaman over cutting him strictly for cap room.

The NBA management committee also doesn't want to appear to hand Miami exactly what they need: a true center.

[Seventyniner]

It appears almost certain that Diaw will be bought out. Kaman is another story.

Turiaf is less desirable than either of those two, but would probably be better than nothing.

[Bruno]

Masai Ujiri said Turiaf will be waived to make room for Wilson Chandler, who Masai thinks could be signed in nxt 2 days.

http://twitter.com/#!/nuggetsnews

If Spurs want Turiaf, they can too use Parker. Diaw, Turiaf and Parker are best buddies. A couple of days ago, I read an article written by a reliable french journalist saying that Parker sold Spurs into trading for Turiaf last year. The deal failed because Knicks wanted Bonner.

If Spurs want it, they have a good shot at getting both Turiaf and Diaw. Parker, Diaw and Turiaf would be thrilled to play for the same NBA team. I think it would be mistake to do so because it will create playing time issue. Spurs should focus on Diaw who is more interesting than Turiaf.

Turiaf could also be claimed from waivers by Indiana. They have the cap space and need a backup C.

[Redshadows]

If Spurs want Turiaf, they can too use Parker. Diaw, Turiaf and Parker are best buddies. A couple of days ago, I read an article written by a reliable french journalist saying that Parker sold Spurs into trading for Turiaf last year. The deal failed because Knicks wanted Bonner.

If Spurs want it, they have a good shot at getting both Turiaf and Diaw. Parker, Diaw and Turiaf would be thrilled to play for the same NBA team. I think it would be mistake to do so because it will create playing time issue. Spurs should focus on Diaw who is more interesting than Turiaf.

Turiaf could also be claimed from waivers by Indiana. They have the cap space and need a backup C.
The spurs could sit blair on the bench.:lol

[T Park]

Turiaf would be great off the bench next to Splitter.

Diaw would work perfect with Duncan...

[therealtruth]

If Spurs want Turiaf, they can too use Parker. Diaw, Turiaf and Parker are best buddies. A couple of days ago, I read an article written by a reliable french journalist saying that Parker sold Spurs into trading for Turiaf last year. The deal failed because Knicks wanted Bonner.

If Spurs want it, they have a good shot at getting both Turiaf and Diaw. Parker, Diaw and Turiaf would be thrilled to play for the same NBA team. I think it would be mistake to do so because it will create playing time issue. Spurs should focus on Diaw who is more interesting than Turiaf.

Turiaf could also be claimed from waivers by Indiana. They have the cap space and need a backup C.

You can't be serious the Spurs had a chance to get rid of Bonner and didn't use it?

[Mel_13]

According to a source, the Sixers bought out the contract of Andres Nocioni Friday night.

One day earlier, they had acquired 6-foot-6 wing player Sam Young in a trade with Memphis that virtually made Nocioni a spectator from here on out, which had been his role for most of this season leading up to buyout.

The move gives Nocioni the freedom to pursue finding a team that might want him for the home stretch of this condensed season or allow him to return to his beloved home country of Argentina.

http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/sixers-talk/post/Source-Sixers-buyout-Nocionis-contract?%20blockID=671594&feedID=704&awid=6625139408709983980-711

Another longtime object of ST speculation is available.

[Sense]

According to a source, the Sixers bought out the contract of Andres Nocioni Friday night.

One day earlier, they had acquired 6-foot-6 wing player Sam Young in a trade with Memphis that virtually made Nocioni a spectator from here on out, which had been his role for most of this season leading up to buyout.

The move gives Nocioni the freedom to pursue finding a team that might want him for the home stretch of this condensed season or allow him to return to his beloved home country of Argentina.

http://www.csnphilly.com/blog/sixers-talk/post/Source-Sixers-buyout-Nocionis-contract?%20blockID=671594&feedID=704&awid=6625139408709983980-711

Another longtime object of ST speculation is available.



Well we do have 3 roster spots available right?
We need another Big, a back up PG, and yes we need a back up SF.. after Kawhi everyone else is a SG, if the numbers somehow work.. Wow.

[loveforthegame]

If he's healthy I think you have to take a look at Nocioni. Good size, used to be a tough defender, and versatile all around.

I sorta lost track of him. Thought he was plagued by injuries??

[Hoops Czar]

Well we do have 3 roster spots available right?
We need another Big, a back up PG, and yes we need a back up SF.. after Kawhi everyone else is a SG, if the numbers somehow work.. Wow.

And what position would S-Jax play?

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Well we do have 3 roster spots available right?
We need another Big, a back up PG, and yes we need a back up SF.. after Kawhi everyone else is a SG, if the numbers somehow work.. Wow.

This team just shipped out TJ Ford's vet min contract so they wouldn't have to pay tax on it, and you think they might sign two or even three players?

[Wild Cobra Kai]

If he's healthy I think you have to take a look at Nocioni. Good size, used to be a tough defender, and versatile all around.

I sorta lost track of him. Thought he was plagued by injuries??

He's done.

[TJastal]

If Spurs want Turiaf, they can too use Parker. Diaw, Turiaf and Parker are best buddies. A couple of days ago, I read an article written by a reliable french journalist saying that Parker sold Spurs into trading for Turiaf last year. The deal failed because Knicks wanted Bonner.

If Spurs want it, they have a good shot at getting both Turiaf and Diaw. Parker, Diaw and Turiaf would be thrilled to play for the same NBA team. I think it would be mistake to do so because it will create playing time issue. Spurs should focus on Diaw who is more interesting than Turiaf.

Turiaf could also be claimed from waivers by Indiana. They have the cap space and need a backup C.

I'll take whichever one is in better shape tbh.

[Brazil]

If Spurs want Turiaf, they can too use Parker. Diaw, Turiaf and Parker are best buddies. A couple of days ago, I read an article written by a reliable french journalist saying that Parker sold Spurs into trading for Turiaf last year. The deal failed because Knicks wanted Bonner.

If Spurs want it, they have a good shot at getting both Turiaf and Diaw. Parker, Diaw and Turiaf would be thrilled to play for the same NBA team. I think it would be mistake to do so because it will create playing time issue. Spurs should focus on Diaw who is more interesting than Turiaf.

Turiaf could also be claimed from waivers by Indiana. They have the cap space and need a backup C.

The spurs need is imo an energy defensive big rather than a big who can spread the floor. I'd prefer Turiaf right now than Diaw.

[Bruno]

I've always liked Nocioni but he seems to be done.

I don't think Nocioni will sign with a NBA team. He will either go to Europe or in Argentina. His priority should be to be in shape for the Olympics games. He won't be really able to do so if he is at the end of the bench of a NBA team.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

The spurs need is imo an energy defensive big rather than a big who can spread the floor. I'd prefer Turiaf right now than Diaw.
this. Spurs already have an undersized chubby PF. plus we get to watch Turiaf do the robot when they are winning.

[Bruno]

The spurs need is imo an energy defensive big rather than a big who can spread the floor. I'd prefer Turiaf right now than Diaw.

Disagree.

Unless you're fine with Blair starting, Spurs need a starting PF. Diaw is that guy. In addition of being a good fit, Diaw is just a way better player than Turiaf. I go with Diaw over Turiaf and it's not even close.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

Disagree.

Unless you're fine with Blair starting, Spurs need a starting PF. Diaw is that guy. In addition of being a good fit, Diaw is just a way better player than Turiaf. I go with Diaw over Turiaf and it's not even close.
true but they really need to improve on defense.

[Brazil]

Disagree.

Unless you're fine with Blair starting, Spurs need a starting PF. Diaw is that guy. In addition of being a good fit, Diaw is just a way better player than Turiaf. I go with Diaw over Turiaf and it's not even close.

Diaw will bring softness, he is not a great defensive player. He is the better player no doubt about that but I don't think we need his playmaking abilities but we definitely need a hustle big blocking shots and defending the paint.

[venitian navigator]

We have three spots now...if the FO think that we can go on with what we already have at point guard the idea of signing all three of Diaw, Turiaf and Nocioni for a run at a title is more than intriguing...argentine and franch connection shuld work well!

Actually I also think that Diaw is the best of the three but Nocioni and Turiaf both have the skills of the perfect sodiers to go to war with.
And Diaw and Nocioni could be temped about the idea of a real run for a championship (I think only Turiaf has already won a title...and of the three he' the only one that's pure front line man) and decide to take just the minimum.

[acoelho1]

Disagree.

Unless you're fine with Blair starting, Spurs need a starting PF. Diaw is that guy. In addition of being a good fit, Diaw is just a way better player than Turiaf. I go with Diaw over Turiaf and it's not even close.

Nobody is fine with Blair starting but I seriously doubt Pop would start Diaw. Also, Diaw is not better in one important area, physicality and toughness. If Turiaf is healthy, I would take him over Diaw. We need some of that "spirit" in the frontline that Buford used to described Sjax.

[Bruno]

Diaw will bring softness, he is not a great defensive player. He is the better player no doubt about that but I don't think we need his playmaking abilities but we definitely need a hustle big blocking shots and defending the paint.

I think you overrate a lot Turiaf's defense. He hustle and play hard but results aren't that great. Diaw passing and shooting will also help a lot Spurs offense. There is a reason why Pop goes so much with Bonner in crunch time: Spurs are a way better offensive team with Bonner over Blair at the PF slot.

[Gino2882]

Diaw would definitely bring something that Blair/Splitter doesn't and that is spacing the floor. I think he would bring what Bonner brings but with better passing.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Diaw will bring softness, he is not a great defensive player. He is the better player no doubt about that but I don't think we need his playmaking abilities but we definitely need a hustle big blocking shots and defending the paint.

None of those are available.

Right now it looks like Diaw, Turiaf, and maybe AC.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

We have three spots now...if the FO think that we can go on with what we already have at point guard the idea of signing all three of Diaw, Turiaf and Nocioni for a run at a title is more than intriguing...argentine and franch connection shuld work well!

Actually I also think that Diaw is the best of the three but Nocioni and Turiaf both have the skills of the perfect sodiers to go to war with.
And Diaw and Nocioni could be temped about the idea of a real run for a championship (I think only Turiaf has already won a title...and of the three he' the only one that's pure front line man) and decide to take just the minimum.

They're not going to sign three players. Best case is AC as a back up PG, and one position player. Most likely case is one player, period. They just dumped one vet min contract so they didn't have to pay tax on it. They are not taking on three more for fringe rotational players.

[ace3g]

Diaw is basically a mix of Bonner (jumpshot, although not as accurated from 3) and Blair (plays in the post). Depending on what the offense needs at a certain time; Diaw is a very versatile player.

Plus Diaw is more durable than Turiaf and more in control when on the court.

[Sense]

Turiaf is like having Rose starting, or Mark Madsen ffs :lol


Get Diaw and forget Turiaf..

[acoelho1]

I don't get this love affair with Diaw. The west is stacked with quality bigs and another PF that plays like a SF is not what we need. Our problem is not scoring and we need to find the best available physical big available. We are not looking for a starter but someone who can come in with energy and be PHYSICAL (Diaw doesn't apply).

[Texas_Ranger]

any news when will Boris be bought out??

[venitian navigator]

They're not going to sign three players. Best case is AC as a back up PG, and one position player. Most likely case is one player, period. They just dumped one vet min contract so they didn't have to pay tax on it. They are not taking on three more for fringe rotational players.

The only way we have to sign players are the "little" mle and minimum contacts.
ok that Spurs are already above the lux tax and have to pay the double...but nobody, probably, thought that we could have a little chance, this year, to win it all.
So a little sacrifice could be made.
The three above are all of them legitimate nba players with play off experience...that has a great value, meaning the luxury of going in the play offs with 15 men (well, maybe 14 considering Joseph...but the guy has some balls) all with the potential to play at play off level.
Till now we've gone to play with just four players in the entire front line...and all three of the above mentioned players we can sign can take minutes in the front line.
Imho it's time to give our starters some more minutes of resting, expecially considering that Blair is probably not going to play in the decisive minutes and that Splitter is not a player you can count on (depending of his phisical conditioning) for a 40 minutes play.
Both Diaw and Turiaf can play a bit like centers and Diaw has some of the skills of Tim in the post, so he's the main guy that could give him some needed rest in reg season games and play offs games.
Nocioni is, still, a little more cold blooded than the red rocket for the stretching 4 role and can still hustle like a bull dog.
Little mle end minimum contracts money are a affoirdable price to pay for more than 20 reg season games and a play off run insurance....

[Marcus Bryant]

If Pop is ready to play Splitter alongside Duncan for extended minutes, Kaman is the better option. However, if he isn't, Kaman will just take away Splitter's minutes.

Diaw would be a nice addition.

:tu

[Bruno]

:tu

Welcome back , MB.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

The only way we have to sign players are the "little" mle and minimum contacts.
ok that Spurs are already above the lux tax and have to pay the double...but nobody, probably, thought that we could have a little chance, this year, to win it all.
So a little sacrifice could be made.
The three above are all of them legitimate nba players with play off experience...that has a great value, meaning the luxury of going in the play offs with 15 men (well, maybe 14 considering Joseph...but the guy has some balls) all with the potential to play at play off level.
Till now we've gone to play with just four players in the entire front line...and all three of the above mentioned players we can sign can take minutes in the front line.
Imho it's time to give our starters some more minutes of resting, expecially considering that Blair is probably not going to play in the decisive minutes and that Splitter is not a player you can count on (depending of his phisical conditioning) for a 40 minutes play.
Both Diaw and Turiaf can play a bit like centers and Diaw has some of the skills of Tim in the post, so he's the main guy that could give him some needed rest in reg season games and play offs games.
Nocioni is, still, a little more cold blooded than the red rocket for the stretching 4 role and can still hustle like a bull dog.
Little mle end minimum contracts money are a affoirdable price to pay for more than 20 reg season games and a play off run insurance....

Easy to say. It's not your money.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

I don't get this love affair with Diaw. The west is stacked with quality bigs and another PF that plays like a SF is not what we need. Our problem is not scoring and we need to find the best available physical big available. We are not looking for a starter but someone who can come in with energy and be PHYSICAL (Diaw doesn't apply).

There aren't any. Please try to stay on track.

I'm not in love with Diaw, but he's A big that we can plug in, and he's skilled on O. He's versatile enough to play with most of our bigs, and we'll need that when we hit those two B2B2Bs

[Wild Cobra Kai]

If Pop is ready to play Splitter alongside Duncan for extended minutes, Kaman is the better option. However, if he isn't, Kaman will just take away Splitter's minutes.

Diaw would be a nice addition.

The consensus seems to be that Kaman will NOT be bought out. The league does not want to appear to be favoring MIA by throwing them the center they need so badly.

[venitian navigator]

Easy to say. It's not your money.

Well, the point is always the same.
The more chance we have to go on a deep play off run, the more chance we have to make more money.
For a deep play off run is a lot better to have a deep roster.
Two minimum contracts and a mle are what...ten millions more (lux tax included)?
Probably, passing just one more round (means at least three more home games) already makes more than the above said money...
And, after all, ten millions is less than what we have already spared with the RJ/SJ +TJ trade.
Looks more like a good investment to me...

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Well, the point is always the same.
The more chance we have to go on a deep play off run, the more chance we have to make more money.
For a deep play off run is a lot better to have a deep roster.
Two minimum contracts and a mle are what...ten millions more (lux tax included)?
Probably, passing just one more round (means at least three more home games) already makes more than the above said money...
And, after all, ten millions is less than what we have already spared with the RJ/SJ +TJ trade.
Looks more like a good investment to me...

No. Ten Million is more than they would make on a Finals run. Like I said, it's real easy for you to spend other people's money.

Best case is AC and another player, but probably just one player will be signed.

[Russ]

Diaw or Kaman?

The problem I have with Kaman is that he's never been part of a winning program.

That is a damning factor for a big (most good bigs can at least make a team respectable even with a minimal supporting cast).

Although the Spurs need a big more than a Diaw-type, I've always liked Diaw. Never thought he was soft.

[venitian navigator]

No. Ten Million is more than they would make on a Finals run. Like I said, it's real easy for you to spend other people's money.

Best case is AC and another player, but probably just one player will be signed.

Well, I'm probably not that good in knowing the money a team make for any sell out game (like should be in the play off run).
I find it hard to think that three home play off games makes for the team less than ten millions...all things included.
And I'm not considering a finals run, that you mentioned.
I would be shocked if a run to the finals means for an nba team less than ten millions in revenues...if that's the way it works, then there should be something real wrong in the system.
In that case, and only in that case, you could be absolutely right.
However, I prefer to always have the wiew of the person that's looking at the best possible chanches for his team to succeed...and, imho, the best chances are with a deep roster full of people hungry for winning with the right skills and not scared to play.
So I don't think I have to apologize for that.
Nor I think that I'm playing (nor, by the way, spending like you are saying) with anyone's money...
Probably the FO knows better than you and me what they can afford.
And I prefer to hope they can afford some more players...

[Nathan89]

Diaw would be a nice addition to the team. A little bit of shooting and the ability to take it to the rim(at least against a shifting defense), sounds nice to me. He might be able to do some of the things that Carl Landry did against Pau last year.

Also if we make it to the finals against the Heat he might be a better option against Bosh. Bonner and Blair were terrible against Bosh. I suspect Turiaf wouldn't be much better.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Well, I'm probably not that good in knowing the money a team make for any sell out game (like should be in the play off run).
I find it hard to think that three home play off games makes for the team less than ten millions...all things included.
And I'm not considering a finals run, that you mentioned.
I would be shocked if a run to the finals means for an nba team less than ten millions in revenues...if that's the way it works, then there should be something real wrong in the system.
In that case, and only in that case, you could be absolutely right.
However, I prefer to always have the wiew of the person that's looking at the best possible chanches for his team to succeed...and, imho, the best chances are with a deep roster full of people hungry for winning with the right skills and not scared to play.
So I don't think I have to apologize for that.
Nor I think that I'm playing (nor, by the way, spending like you are saying) with anyone's money...
Probably the FO knows better than you and me what they can afford.
And I prefer to hope they can afford some more players...

The only money a team makes in the post season is seats, parking and concessions. There is no additional TV money, which is the bulk of the money that teams make.

The players have it worse. The only additional money they get is from the bonus pool as you advance round to round. I think I remember one of the ring years that the Spurs players got $250K for going all the way. For a player making $20M for 82 games, pulling $250K for like 20 something extra games isn't much money at all.

[venitian navigator]

The only money a team makes in the post season is seats, parking and concessions. There is no additional TV money, which is the bulk of the money that teams make.

The players have it worse. The only additional money they get is from the bonus pool as you advance round to round. I think I remember one of the ring years that the Spurs players got $250K for going all the way. For a player making $20M for 82 games, pulling $250K for like 20 something extra games isn't much money at all.

Thanks for the explanations.
Weird that the revenues are limited to the thinghs you mentioned.
Arten't the tv revenues shared between the teams ?
I thought that the percentage a team makes of the tv revenues depends of the quality and number of games they play.

If that's not the way it works...imho ther's something wrong.

There must be some money reward for the teams that are playing more games than the others...and doing so are the main actors of the nba show.

[Mel_13]

Bartelstein also represents forward Ronny Turiaf, who will not play in Denver. Turiaf is also expected to receive a buyout from the Nuggets and would draw interest in the free agent market. Turiaf was activated for the Wizards’ 107-98 loss in Dallas but didn’t play. Bartelstein said Turiaf is healthy and ready to go after being out since Jan. 1 because of a broken left hand.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/post/nene-physical-likely-saturday-cook-might-discuss-%20buyout/2012/03/17/gIQAvkHkIS_blog.html

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

i prefer Turiaf just a little more than Diaw but i hope they can sign one soon so they are familiar with the system by the playoffs.

[acoelho1]

There aren't any. Please try to stay on track.

I'm not in love with Diaw, but he's A big that we can plug in, and he's skilled on O. He's versatile enough to play with most of our bigs, and we'll need that when we hit those two B2B2Bs

I'm not arguing that Diaw is not versatile but he is soft and not what we need. As stated, Turiaf brings two important elements that Diaw does not, which is high energy and physicality. If he can stay healthy, I rather have Turiaf's big body going against teams like the Lakers, Grizzlies and Clippers which we may face in the playoffs.

[sinok]

Turiaf is made of glass. Pass.

[callo1]

Out of Turiaf and Diaw, I would take Diaw...he is a much better passer, which makes him fit the Spurs system better.

[ace3g]

Rick Bonnell ‏ @rick_bonnell

#Bobcats coach Paul Silas will likely activate Boris Diaw tonight, since Raptors play so much zone defense.

30 min later
#Bobcats coach Paul Silas deactivated Boris Diaw after all (along with Gana Diop).

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Not sure how this effect them buying him out if they still consider playing him in a game, maybe they plan to keep him up until the buy out deadline.

[Bruno]

^ I suspect it's a bargaining move.

Diaw has about $2M left on his contract. Bobcats will try that Diaw gave up the biggest part of it. We have seen during the lockout that Jordan isn't afraid to take bargain hard to defend his interests. Diaw buyout negotiation could quickly get ugly while it should have gone smoothy given that both sides want a buyout.

[ace3g]

Spurs better sign one soon, can't stand extended minutes from Bonner on B2Bs like tonight

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA

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JJ Hickson has completed a buyout with the Kings, league source tells Y!

[Spursfanfromafar]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏ @WojYahooNBA

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JJ Hickson has completed a buyout with the Kings, league source tells Y!

The Celtics get this one, IMO.

[Gagnrath]

What? If hickson is available we have to make a tender to him. He even knows cav's under bown offense which is similar to spurs so that will be handy

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

JJ Hickson can be a really high-reward pickup. I'm all for it.

[swaggerjackson]

Hickson certainly has more upside and I could see the Spurs going after him but Diaw is ready to help now. His outside shot enables him to stretch the floor, he is a gifted passer, and he is a decent post defender. Hickson could turn into a great player but I really don't see him coming here and being the missing piece of the puzzle this season. BTW there has been no talk of a Diaw buyout lately, anybody heard anything?