Spurs interested in Anthony Carter

[Bruno]

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While somebody else could make waiver claim, Anthony Carter told me agent Bill Duffy talking to San Antonio and Minnesota on Carter signing.


Anthony Carter has played with both San Antonio and Minnesota before and said would have no preference: "Both are making playoff pushes.''

[shyne]

Carter sucks and can't shoot.

[DBMethos]

Would rather have Neal continue as backup PG, tbh.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Does Carter even possess any impressive court vision?

[Bruno]

If Minny is interested in him, they should claim him from waivers. They are way below the tax so it has no drawback for them.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Not surprising. He's still a capable defender and that's something the Spurs need badly. Don't think any PG they could get now would be in front of a Neal/Manu reserve backcourt for the initial playoff rotation, however, Carter is someone who could get thrown in there to contain an opposing PG going crazy, so in spot minutes and stretches he could help in the playoffs too.

[T Park]

If Minny is interested in him, they should claim his from waivers. They are way below the tax so it has no drawback for them.

They should've traded Beasley for Jamal Crawford when they had the chance.

[DesignatedT]

Signing another PG with experience would be smart. Especially experience in the Spurs system. Yes, everyone here understands that Carter is old and doesn't have much to offer but rolling into the playoffs with a Manu who can't stay healthy and Neal as the primary backup is asking for trouble. If something happens to either it would be pretty bad.

Don't understand why people don't really understand this. Unless you are one of the 5 people who have been impressed with CJ.

[bklynspursfan]

"Anthony Carter likes chance to win title in San Antonio but also realizes Minnesota could provide solid playing time due to Rubio's injury."

[Texas_Ranger]

We could also just play Jacque Vaughn, they are the same age. :)

[T Park]

Go ahead Minnesota, make that playoff run :)

[stephen jackson]

id rather have some other bum

[Steve-O-Matic]

Anthony Carter might be the most vanilla player in the NBA. Much rather have Derek Fisher.

[venitian navigator]

Currently, Carter, Fisher and Detmon are probably the top three chances to take TJ place. Every one of them has qualities the FO could like...andd some liabilities.
Carter has already played for us, so he knows at least some of our plays, and is good at defense...but he doesn't shoot from distance.
Fisher is the opposite (better offense, bad defense), but never played for us...however, has a lot play off experience and his shoot only could be worth signing him as a back up.
Detmon, I dont't know a lot of him, but he played a lot of games for the Toros (so he should know everything about our siystem and plays), has wonderful stats in the nbdl for offense (points and assists) and defense (steals) an is younger and probably with more energy and enthusiasm than the other two.
The negative points are that he doesn't have nba experience (but that could be good in the sense that nobody has ever faced him, so could be difficult to defend against him) and probably he's not a pure point guard.
Any of them could give a decent contribute...I would prefer to go with the young one, but probably the FO looks for someone more experienced...

[Obstructed_View]

Carter sucks and can't shoot.

Anybody who brings Carter to the Spurs to shoot needs to lose his job immediately. The Spurs need a backup point guard.

[Duncan2177]

Carter sucks and can't shoot.

:tu

[T Park]

Anybody who brings Carter to the Spurs to shoot needs to lose his job immediately. The Spurs need a backup point guard.


As usual the voice of reason in the house of insanity.

[mexicanjunior]

I wouldn't mind Carter, it is better than having Cory Joseph be our emergency point guard if Manu or Neal are injured.

[timvp]

I'd like a Carter signing. He's not a great player or anything but he's a really good fit.

1. He'd be willing to be the third point guard. I honestly think Neal as the backup point guard is the best option. With that in mind, the vet who the Spurs sign should be open to being the third PG.

2. Carter can still really, really defend. This season, maybe only two or three players have defended Parker as well as Carter did in the Raptors game. He's a smart, physical defender who can even defend shooting guards if needed. That's a plus if the Spurs need conserve Manu's energy and allow him to defend a weaker player.

3. Carter is a good passer. He has good vision and is willing to give it up. That vision is what the Spurs will miss most with Ford gone.

4. He has some experience in the system. With the playoffs already right around the corner, the Spurs don't really have time to teach a new point guard from scratch. Carter went through a training camp with the Spurs so he knows a lot of the lingo.

5. Carter doesn't need the ball. A lot of point guard over-dribble or feel they need to be involved in every possession. Carter isn't one of those point guards. He'll gladly pass and let someone else create plays.

6. He's another tough guy. The Spurs added toughness with Jackson. Carter would add even more toughness.

Plus, as far as I know, Carter lives in San Antonio. If he becomes a free agent and isn't claimed off waivers, you'd think he'd consider the Spurs.

Last time it didn't work out because Carter had an injured knee that took a couple years to heal. Right now, he's too good of a fit to pass up if he wants to hop on board.

[MoSpur]

I'd rather have Fisher. He's a better shooter.

[Obstructed_View]

As usual the voice of reason in the house of insanity.

If I've become the voice of reason then you've been gone way way too long. :)

[lefty]

Sukzballz lulz



But srsly, do we have another option for backup PG?

If not, then yeah we have no choice but to sign him

[MaNu4Tres]

I'd like a Carter signing. He's not a great player or anything but he's a really good fit.

1. He'd be willing to be the third point guard. I honestly think Neal as the backup point guard is the best option. With that in mind, the vet who the Spurs sign should be open to being the third PG.



Exactly.

+1

[T Park]

If I've become the voice of reason then you've been gone way way too long. :)


:lol

[T Park]

If Fisher couldn't be had, I'd be for Carter. I still don't feel Neal is nor should be the PG. Its painful to watch when Parker heads to the bench.

[Bruno]

A lot of good points by timvp. Given how weak the PG free agent market is, Spurs can't be picky.

[timvp]

Fisher is interesting but I don't like the fit as much. While he's probably a better shooter, neither player is that much of a shooter nowadays. Fisher is clutch but how often would he take clutch shots while with the Spurs? If he is in the game late, then something has already gone horribly wrong.

Furthermore, I don't see Fisher signing somewhere that doesn't guarantee him at least a backup role. IMO, Neal is likely better than Fisher at this point. It'd suck to get stuck with Fisher if he's a downgrade from Neal.

Carter is a much better defender than Fisher. Carter also is better at defending shooting guards.

Both don't need the ball and both are tough. Fisher is even tougher than Carter, in fact. Though I'd say Carter is the better passer.

Fisher is a safe choice and has the higher ceiling but the fit just isn't there. The only way he's the better fit is if Pop truly doesn't believe Neal is capable of running backup point guard come playoff time.

[Obstructed_View]

I wouldn't say it's painful. Roger Mason Jr. was painful. It's frustrating watching him miss so many open teammates, but he's not booting the ball off his foot, and he is able to hit shots. I simply don't expect him to be consistenly able to do that against playoff teams where quality of shot becomes much more important.

I really like Neal, and I think he's playing great. I know I've said that, but I wanted to continue to make that clear. He's done as much as anyone could reasonably expect in that fill-in role. It is, however, just a fill-in role. If the Spurs can't get Carter, I'll settle for the starting point guard for the third best team in the western conference as my backup.

[timvp]

I still don't feel Neal is nor should be the PG. Its painful to watch when Parker heads to the bench.

As painful as it is to watch, the Spurs offense has been great with Neal running the point. Splitter specifically has thrived with Neal.

[Leetonidas]

Where is Gilbert Arenas these days? :depressed

[Obstructed_View]

As painful as it is to watch, the Spurs offense has been great with Neal running the point. Splitter specifically has thrived with Neal.

With Neal on the floor or with Neal running the point? Splitter's the one I see him missing the most often.

[timtonymanu]

Eh. Wouldn't mind if he signs here.

[T Park]

I wouldn't say it's painful. Roger Mason Jr. was painful. It's frustrating watching him miss so many open teammates, but he's not booting the ball off his foot, and he is able to hit shots. I simply don't expect him to be consistenly able to do that against playoff teams where quality of shot becomes much more important.

I really like Neal, and I think he's playing great. I know I've said that, but I wanted to continue to make that clear. He's done as much as anyone could reasonably expect in that fill-in role. It is, however, just a fill-in role. If the Spurs can't get Carter, I'll settle for the starting point guard for the third best team in the western conference as my backup.

Amen bravo.

I personally trust Derek Fisher in a playoff game in a tight third quarter more than Anthony Carter. When Tiago has the ball gets doubled and throws it out, who do I want catching and shooting, Anthony Carter? Or Derek Fisher?

Ill take Derek Fisher, IMO, cold beer, :hat

[T Park]

Where is Gilbert Arenas these days? :depressed

At home where he belongs.

[Obstructed_View]

Where is Gilbert Arenas these days? :depressed

If Arenas had ever been a point guard, I'd wonder why you asked.

[DPG21920]

Why would Fisher or Carter be in the game at that point, Park?

[timvp]

With Neal on the floor or with Neal running the point? Splitter's the one I see him missing the most often.

With Neal running the point, Splitter stats are really good. He misses Splitter a lot but he also finds him a lot :lol

Splitter commented recently then when he's in with Neal running point guard, teams tend to ignore him because they are worried about Neal shooting the ball. Probably some truth behind that.

[Muser]

People need to stop saying Fisher is clutch so we should sign him. Late game Parker/Ginobili/Jackson or Leonard/Duncan/Splitter or Bonner depending on situation will be the final lineup.

As for Carter i'd like him as a 3rd string PG.

[T Park]

With Neal on the floor or with Neal running the point? Splitter's the one I see him missing the most often.


Yup. His drives to the basket are just horrible. He belongs camped at the three, shoot a three or fake and stop and pop.

[Obstructed_View]

Clutch this, tough that aside, I don't want either of them shooting. I'm perfectly happy if the Spurs get Fish or Carter and they never score a point. I want them running plays for other people and controlling the pace of the game, something that only a true point guard can do.

Obligatory Gary Neal praise a given, those of you that don't remember how good Mason was before he was made the backup point guard and how terrible he was afterward would be well-served to study up. It's great for all of us that the same thing hasn't happened to Gary Neal, but really, why push your luck?

It basically boils down to this: The Spurs have more than one area of need, and backup point guard is one of those. Unless getting one of those guys impedes the team's ability to pick up a big, why would you NOT want the Spurs to do it?

[baseline bum]

Hahaha... Ghost comes back for a blast from the past with Jack and now he gets another one with Harper, err... Carter.

[Imp23]

He's good for D in limited mins. I heard he still lives here.

[Obstructed_View]

With Neal running the point, Splitter stats are really good. He misses Splitter a lot but he also finds him a lot :lol

Splitter commented recently then when he's in with Neal running point guard, teams tend to ignore him because they are worried about Neal shooting the ball. Probably some truth behind that.

I'm sure there's a lot of truth behind that. Unfortunately, that's the first thing to go when you're playing a team seven times in a row because they watch film and figure out your tendencies. Neal provides too many good things for this team to allow opponents to be able to take any part of it away, which means making a small move to have a second/third string point guard. Hell, if the Spurs do that, it's not like they HAVE to stop giving Neal time at the point, it just means they aren't stuck with it if the league suddenly figures out how to stop it.

[T Park]

People need to stop saying Fisher is clutch so we should sign him. Late game Parker/Ginobili/Jackson or Leonard/Duncan/Splitter or Bonner depending on situation will be the final lineup.

As for Carter i'd like him as a 3rd string PG.

If you sign Fisher, Bonner would never see the end of a game.

It would be Manu, Jackson, Duncan, Fisher, Parker.

I'd be ecstatic with that.

[timvp]

Hahaha... Ghost comes back for a blast from the past with Jack and now he gets another one with Harper, err... Carter.

Anthony Harper. Good Times. :lol

And hey, technically Carter was a Spur only in 2003. He fits with the Jack flashback.

[T Park]

I'm sure there's a lot of truth behind that. Unfortunately, that's the first thing to go when you're playing a team seven times in a row because they watch film and figure out your tendencies. Neal provides too many good things for this team to allow opponents to be able to take any part of it away, which means making a small move to have a second/third string point guard. Hell, if the Spurs do that, it's not like they HAVE to stop giving Neal time at the point, it just means they aren't stuck with it if the league suddenly figures out how to stop it.

I've been gone so long me and you are in 100% agreement on everything today.

Damn Mayans.

[cd98]

The reality is that Ginoboli, when Parker isn't in the game, is really the point guard on offense. Jackson is sorta the same, except with a lot more turnovers.

[timvp]

If you sign Fisher, Bonner would never see the end of a game.

It would be Manu, Jackson, Duncan, Fisher, Parker.

I'd be ecstatic with that.

Two point guard, two shooting guards and a power forward?

That's taking small ball to the ultimate extreme. That lineup would never get a rebound, tbh.

[Obstructed_View]

The reality is that Ginoboli, when Parker isn't in the game, is really the point guard on offense. Jackson is sorta the same, except with a lot more turnovers.

That's fair. The reality is that you're going to have time where one of them isn't on the floor. Signing a point guard is preferable to bringing Manu off the bench, regardless of what recent Spurs history has taught you.

[MaNu4Tres]

If you sign Fisher, Bonner would never see the end of a game.

It would be Manu, Jackson, Duncan, Fisher, Parker.

I'd be ecstatic with that.

Eww.

I'd prefer Splitter, Duncan, Jax, Manu, TP.. tbh.

Fisher would be the 12th best player on the active roster tbh..

[jjktkk]

Signing another PG with experience would be smart. Especially experience in the Spurs system. Yes, everyone here understands that Carter is old and doesn't have much to offer but rolling into the playoffs with a Manu who can't stay healthy and Neal as the primary backup is asking for trouble. If something happens to either it would be pretty bad.

Don't understand why people don't really understand this. Unless you are one of the 5 people who have been impressed with CJ.

Due to limited options, you have to roll the dice on Manu and Neal not getting injured, so if Carter is the best option, I guess you have to go with that.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Wow, this sucks. Don't want him on the team. He can't even contribute. We are getting older by the second. What happened to putting young guys around our aging stars??? No first RD pick. We have pretty much conceded.

[T Park]

Why would Fisher or Carter be in the game at that point, Park?

Third quarter beginning 4th is when parker rests IIRC.

With a guy like Fisher I'd be back to the days of Speedy when I felt zero drop off between PGs in the game and zero fear of the offense grinding to a halt.

IMO Fisher is steely, scares NOT at all, skins are on the wall to the point where you can get Parker a little extra rest if hes hitting that night as well.

Signing Fisher IMO, is nothing but plusses. Neal is a good shooter, clutch what not, but he's a square peg in a round hole and just does not fit the PG mold nor has it passed the eye test.

[T Park]

Two point guard, two shooting guards and a power forward?

That's taking small ball to the ultimate extreme. That lineup would never get a rebound, tbh.

Set play out of a timeout needing a three to tie.

Thats it. Thats what I meant, apologies, don't want that being run out there for minutes at a time.

If Fisher is hitting, wouldn't mind him next to Parker. if Leonard and Spitter and Duncan are out there.

[jjktkk]

wow, this sucks. Don't want him on the team. He can't even contribute. We are getting older by the second. What happened to putting young guys around our aging stars??? No first rd pick. We have pretty much conceded.

wtf?

[T Park]

Wow, this sucks. Don't want him on the team. He can't even contribute. We are getting older by the second. What happened to putting young guys around our aging stars??? No first RD pick. We have pretty much conceded.

Sigh.... Another post 2005 Spurs fan.

[colargol]

Where is Gilbert Arenas these days? :depressed

Jail

[GSH]

As painful as it is to watch, the Spurs offense has been great with Neal running the point. Splitter specifically has thrived with Neal.

I don't have numbers to back it up (and I'm not in the mood to try and collect them) but the feel is that a lot of momentum and leads have evaporated while Neal was at the point. And I know that a lot of teams have him gree-lighted for traps when he's got the ball in his hands. They don't do that, to that extent, unless the scouting reports say that he will cough the ball up. That being said, I have to admit that Neal has improved in his PG role, and he's not the disaster he used to be. He knows his teammates, and where to look for them.

My biggest problem, now, with Neal at the point is that I think it costs the team Neal at the 2. When he comes in to run the offense, I don't think he looks like Gary Neal for the rest of the game. And I would guess that his 3p% bears that out, if nothing else.

As for Carter, I don't think there's any way he clears waivers, so it's probably a moot point.

[Brazil]

I have no problem at all with that kind of solution

[George Gervin's Afro]

Carter sucks and can't shoot.

what he said

[crc21209]

The answer to the "Should the Spurs sign Anthony Carter?" question is simple.....Carter > Joseph. If the Spurs have a chance to get him, they should do it.

[taps]

Last 3-pointer of the game:

_TD

_Manu
_Neal
_Jackson
_Fisher--(Parker)

If any of those 4 guys get a good look at it I'll take my chances on that.