Would acquiring Diaw be a mistake?

[Hooks]

Everything I've read about this guy says that he's soft as hell, I've never really seen him play though so I'm gonna have to take their word for it. The Spurs don't need a guy like that, they just got rid of one.


What really separates him from RJ? The fact that he's listed as a PF and RJ a SF? We saw RJ constantly get raped whenever he played PF, it seems like with Diaw it'd be the same thing. They're practically the same size, same height and weight, RJ is more muscular though.

Diaw even looks like less of a scoring threat than RJ but a much better passer.

Seems like a mistake if the Spurs sign him unless he turns into a solid defender, it'd be like getting RJ back, no?

[TJastal]

Everything I've read about this guy says that he's soft as hell, I've never really seen him play though so I'm gonna have to take their word for it. The Spurs don't need a guy like that, they just got rid of one.


What really separates him from RJ? The fact that he's listed as a PF and RJ a SF? We saw RJ constantly get raped whenever he played PF, it seems like with Diaw it'd be the same thing. They're practically the same size, same height and weight, RJ is more muscular though.

Diaw even looks like less of a scoring threat than RJ but a much better passer.

Seems like a mistake if the Spurs sign him unless he turns into a solid defender, it'd be like getting RJ back, no?

I have a feeling Blair's defense would put Diaw's to shame. I agree, this is NOT the type of player needed. Turiaf otoh is the exact opposite of Diaw and IS the guy for the job.

[timvp]

Diaw is more passive than soft. His post defense is surprisingly good and when he's in shape, his perimeter defense is really good (for a power forward).

The risk is that Pop hates hesitant shooters and Diaw is definitely a hesitant shooter.

[Scrub]

Diaw >>> Turiaf tbh. Even if he is lazy. He has very high basketball IQ imo. If you can't get anyone better for the rest of the season he'd come handy. Signing Lorbek or Teletovic in the offseason long term should be Spurs priority for the 4 spot tho. Very good players that could be had for cheap...big upgrade over BonBon or Blair.

[Alain]

Stange how nobody's figured the main reason why the Spurs should go after Boris... :
Tony Parker

[SenorSpur]

Diaw is more passive than soft. His post defense is surprisingly good and when he's in shape, his perimeter defense is really good (for a power forward).

The risk is that Pop hates hesitant shooters and Diaw is definitely a hesitant shooter.

which supposedly is why he's fallen out with Coach Silas.

Besides the Spurs don't need any more shooters. They need a guy to do some real, physical dirty work on the inside.

[Em-City]

I say go for diaw, only because i don't see pop playing turiaf or splitter together with duncan

[MmP]

You never saw him play? What about 2007 SF agains the Suns?
I think he's a good offensive player, can shoot and tall. Can't tell about his defense, not sure if he's good.

[Beaverfuzz]

Fuck him.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Diaw is more passive than soft. His post defense is surprisingly good and when he's in shape, his perimeter defense is really good (for a power forward).

The risk is that Pop hates hesitant shooters and Diaw is definitely a hesitant shooter.

You actually don't have to shoot in this offense, you just can't stand still and hold the ball. As long as you're willing to quickly swing the ball or take a couple of dribbles and penetrate and kick, Pop is fine. The ball just has to move continuously. I mean, come on, DeJuan/Tim/Kawhi come out to the top of the circle above the three point line, just to make a swing pass and dive back inside. Does anyone in the building think they're going to shoot that? They pop out to draw their man out and then swing a pass, nothing more.

[will_spurs]

I've never really seen him play though

So... you've never seen him play, but he sucks? :lol

He's not soft, first of all. Not sure where you've read that. However, as timvp noted, he can be a bit passive. He usually doesn't like to take shots, but he is a very good passer and is willing to do the extra pass, which should work well in Pop's system. He has good fundamentals in the post, and can play any of the 5 positions on the court. Obviously the Spurs will only play him as a 3 or 4 (probably 4), but he could just play anything if needed.

His main issue is self-motivation. But I think playing on a contender with a good friend will take care of that.

[Bruno]

No it won't.

Replacing Blair by Diaw in Spurs rotation would make them significantly better on both end of the court. Diaw is a good player and a good fit for Spurs. It's as simple as that. If Diaw is bought out, going hard after him is a no brainer for Spurs.

[NASpurs]

No it won't.

Replacing Blair by Diaw in Spurs rotation would make them significantly better on both end of the court. Diaw is a good player and a good fit for Spurs. It's as simple as that. If Diaw is bought out, getting hard after him is a no brainer for Spurs.

I'm getting hard thinking about him joining the Spurs too.

Oh you mean "going hard".

[Bruno]

^ Yep, thanks.

[fotan2]

he guarded Parker well in the last game of that 08 series. that should explain a lot.

[Darkwaters]

No it won't.

Replacing Blair by Diaw in Spurs rotation would make them significantly better on both end of the court. Diaw is a good player and a good fit for Spurs. It's as simple as that. If Diaw is bought out, going hard after him is a no brainer for Spurs.

Bingo. Diaw is a very smart and capable player.

Blair is an absolute frustration.

Swapping one for the other makes us better in one movement - much like swapping RJ for Jax. Neither are lateral moves in the least.

[BackHome]

So what is the time frame of him being bought out?

[Donut]

its not a mistake to sign Diaw. Wouldn't be one signing Turiaf instead either. Neither guy is gonna get much playing time. Its not like they will be asked to do much. Maybe end of quarters/spot duty with an occasional match up possibility but that's it. Thinking that either one of these guys would start for us or makes us that much better is RIDICULOUS. People need to stop thinking that these guys are game changers.

[Ice009]

Does anyone remember Diaw in Phoenix? I guess none of you do. I thought he was a pretty darn good player for them when motivated. He's been in deep playoff runs as an integral piece so he knows what it's like to play under that pressure. He can be very helpful.

[The Truth #6]

I seem to remember Diaw signing a decent contract in Phoenix and then losing motivation...does anyone else recall how things shook out in Phoenix? Or did he pout after Amare came back from injury? Anyway, I do recall him only playing really well for about a year or two, but my memory on this is foggy so I'm curious what others remember.

[Texas_Ranger]

Diaw is better than both Blair and Bonner so no.

[Snow]

Signing Diaw if he gets waived is a no-brainer... just ask Bill Walton:

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[spurs10]

Signing Diaw if he gets waived is a no-brainer... just ask Bill Walton:

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Wow!! That is one over the top endorsement!! :lol

[L.I.T]

Diaw is a talented, multi-skilled two way player who would be coming into a relatively supportive situation (thanks to TP and the Spurs international atmosphere) with likely low actual expectations.

It would be a win for the Spurs and for Diaw to help him get his career back on track.

[Borosai]

Cocaine's a helluva drug.

[Obstructed_View]

He's fat and stupid and he'd still be an upgrade over Turiaf or Bonner. Lasagna as a signing bonus, yo!

[TE]

I think Diaw is really skilled, but I do believe he is pretty soft.

Either way, he's be an upgrade over Blair and Bonner imo.

[Hooks]

You never saw him play? What about 2007 SF agains the Suns?
I think he's a good offensive player, can shoot and tall. Can't tell about his defense, not sure if he's good.


All I can really remember about him was him knocking down a couple mid range jumpers, that was a couple years ago though so my memory is vague.


So... you've never seen him play, but he sucks? :lol

He's not soft, first of all. Not sure where you've read that. However, as timvp noted, he can be a bit passive. He usually doesn't like to take shots, but he is a very good passer and is willing to do the extra pass, which should work well in Pop's system. He has good fundamentals in the post, and can play any of the 5 positions on the court. Obviously the Spurs will only play him as a 3 or 4 (probably 4), but he could just play anything if needed.

His main issue is self-motivation. But I think playing on a contender with a good friend will take care of that.

Nearly everything I read about him says he's soft and his stats aren't very impressive either, that could be due to him playing with some shitty teams that don't play any defense though.


I just don't want the Spurs getting another player like RJ who dragged the Spurs' down significantly with his poor defense and offensive game. It was painful watching RJ play PF and getting a clone of him would terrible for the team.

Hopefully if he does come to the Spurs he gets motivated and does play solid defense while occasionally knocking down an outside jumper ala Dice, I'd be ecstatic.

A passer like Diaw would also make it a lot easier for the Spurs' 2nd unit to score which sometimes has become stagnant due to a lack of ball movement.

[Stump]

For all those worried about Diaw's effort level, remember this. We're most likely only signing him for just this season. If so, he'll have to get off his butt and work hard the next couple months to earn his next multiyear contract.

Of course, once he does that, he will likely just get fat and lazy again.

[benefactor]

Signing Diaw if he gets waived is a no-brainer... just ask Bill Walton:

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I've thought about this clip a couple of times during this whole process. Classic Walton moment.

[Mark in Austin]

low risk, high reward. If things don't work out, the Spurs can waive him without having to swallow $40million, which is what it would have cost the team to waive Jefferson.

Diaw is far from the ideal fit, but he is waived he is also far and away the best option available.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

For all those worried about Diaw's effort level, remember this. We're most likely only signing him for just this season. If so, he'll have to get off his butt and work hard the next couple months to earn his next multiyear contract.

Of course, once he does that, he will likely just get fat and lazy again.

Not to mention the fact that everyone and their brother knew that CHA was tanking this year. How hard would you try if you saw your team trade away Okafor THEN Tyson Chandler, Stephen Jackson, Gerald Wallace, etc, and totally go into the tank?

[Darkwaters]

I just don't want the Spurs getting another player like RJ who dragged the Spurs' down significantly with his poor defense and offensive game. It was painful watching RJ play PF and getting a clone of him would terrible for the team.


Diaw is not RJ.

RJ is strictly a SF. He lacks in versatility. He has a below average BBIQ. He was never a PF throughout his whole career except very occasionally in small ball sets.

Diaw, on the other hand, is arguably the most versatile player in the whole NBA. He was drafted as a 2 guard. Hes played point guard. Hes started whole seasons at center. He can literally play any basketball position at the highest level. Hes the basketball renaissance man. Plus, he has a high BBIQ to boot.

Just because Jefferson, who was playing out of position, failed at something doesn't mean another player, who actually has long-term experience succeeding doing that very thing, will. Your comparisons just don't make sense.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Diaw is not RJ.

RJ is strictly a SF. He lacks in versatility. He has a below average BBIQ. He was never a PF throughout his whole career except very occasionally in small ball sets.

Diaw, on the other hand, is arguably the most versatile player in the whole NBA. He was drafted as a 2 guard. Hes played point guard. Hes started whole seasons at center. He can literally play any basketball position at the highest level. Hes the basketball renaissance man. Plus, he has a high BBIQ to boot.

Just because Jefferson, who was playing out of position, failed at something doesn't mean another player, who actually has long-term experience succeeding doing that very thing, will. Your comparisons just don't make sense.

Dang. Spurstalk has Bill Walton posting in it! What a privilege, sir.

[Darkwaters]

Dang. Spurstalk has Bill Walton posting in it! What a privilege, sir.

Do you know what a renaissance man is? It's someone that does a little of everything. Jack of all trades. A bard.

That has nothing to do with Beethoven.

[Hoops Czar]

It would be a mistake not acquiring Diaw.

[angelbelow]

Admittingly, I haven't watched a full Boris Diaw game since 2008 so my opinion could be misguided but I think bring him on is a no-brainer. His versatility on offense, smarts on defensive, and relationship with Tony Parker are all positives.

The only question for me now is how much does he have left in the tank mentally and physically? Heard that hes been out of shape for the past few season. Does that mean hes content not being the player he could be or did injures happened? I think this is a low risk move too so I would do it regardless of Diaw's motivation level.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Do you know what a renaissance man is? It's someone that does a little of everything. Jack of all trades. A bard.

That has nothing to do with Beethoven.

I know.

Bill Walton used a similar hagiography when he invoked the Renaissance and the Enlightenment to showcase his (b)Romance for Diaw.

He is just a basketball player. Has nothing to do with Da Vinci.

[Darkwaters]

I feel so strongly about this signing that I'd not only sign him but also give him a second year - assuming the price is reasonable. If we did that it would be a realistic thought that our bigman roster next season is:

Duncan
Splitter
Diaw
Bonner
Blair
Lorbek

Much better than now.

[Darkwaters]

I know.

Bill Walton used a similar hagiography when he invoked the Renaissance and the Enlightenment to showcase his (b)Romance for Diaw.

He is just a basketball player. Has nothing to do with Da Vinci.

"Renaissance man" doesn't have to refer to painters. Or inventors for that matter.

I mean, it can refer to a schmuck like Danny DeVito.



































http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/82/RenaissanceMan.jpg

[Hoops Czar]

I feel so strongly about this signing that I'd not only sign him but also give him a second year - assuming the price is reasonable. If we did that it would be a realistic thought that our bigman roster next season is:

Duncan
Splitter
Diaw
Bonner
Blair
Lorbek

Much better than now.

How can they afford both Lorbek and Diaw? I think you have to choose one or the other.

[Darkwaters]

How can they afford both Lorbek and Diaw? I think you have to choose one or the other.

Might be a total pipe dream, but I assume if you use the Mini MLE on Diaw this year, and the Mini MLE on Lorbek next year then it'd work.

Am I wrong?

[Spursfanfromafar]

I feel so strongly about this signing that I'd not only sign him but also give him a second year - assuming the price is reasonable. If we did that it would be a realistic thought that our bigman roster next season is:

Duncan
Splitter
Diaw
Bonner
Blair
Lorbek

Much better than now.

Would be as enthusiastic as you are, if today was three years ago.

The version that turned out for the miserable Bobcats was neither Renaissance nor Jack of all trades unfortunately (atleast this season). Diaw was more work of fart than work of art, a French glutton rather than a gourmet, and a passive piece of unmotivation than an expression of Walton's excitement.

Having said that, beggars can't be choosers. With our 3 and a half front line, Diaw will be addition by just addition.

[Hoops Czar]

Might be a total pipe dream, but I assume if you use the Mini MLE on Diaw this year, and the Mini MLE on Lorbek next year then it'd work.

Am I wrong?

Your assuming both would accept the mini MLE and then of course you have the playing aspect. The Spurs should just bench Blair permanently or trade his ass because his motivation wil be at an all-time low if he sinks to 5th big and behind lowly Bonner on the depth chart. And personally, I was under the impression that using the mini MLE on Diaw would only apply to this year and not next year.

[Darkwaters]

Your assuming both would accept the mini MLE and then of course you have the playing aspect. The Spurs should just bench Blair permanently or trade his ass because his motivation wil be at an all-time low if he sinks to 5th big and behind lowly Bonner on the depth chart. And personally, I was under the impression that using the mini MLE on Diaw would only apply to this year and not next year.

The going rate for Lorbek will probably be similar to Splitter's contract. We'll be able to field that one.

The big question is Diaw. I did preface my previous contract statement with something to the effect of "if it's reasonable". I have no idea what his going rate will be. I have no idea if he'll want to cash in or come to play with Tony and a winning organization again. It's an unknown.

Regarding Blair - if we were somehow able to get both Lorbek and Diaw then I'm pretty sure he'd be moved.

[Texas_Ranger]

If we could have both Lorbek and Diaw then Blair and Bonner would never need to play again. But I'm sure Pop will screw Lorbek with little minutes as last year with Tiago and I'm also sure that Bonner is way better than both Diaw and Lorbek in Pop's eyes.

[Hoops Czar]

The going rate for Lorbek will probably be similar to Splitter's contract. We'll be able to field that one.

The big question is Diaw. I did preface my previous contract statement with something to the effect of "if it's reasonable". I have no idea what his going rate will be. I have no idea if he'll want to cash in or come to play with Tony and a winning organization again. It's an unknown.

Regarding Blair - if we were somehow able to get both Lorbek and Diaw then I'm pretty sure he'd be moved.

Yeah, I see Diaw as a catch 22. If he plays well, he'll probably get some decent offer next year which is probably bad news for the Spurs. If he plays like shit, the Spurs would probably have the option to keep him but would they want him?

[Bruno]

The only question for me now is how much does he have left in the tank mentally and physically? Heard that hes been out of shape for the past few season. Does that mean hes content not being the player he could be or did injures happened? I think this is a low risk move too so I would do it regardless of Diaw's motivation level.

Diaw is fine both physically and mentally. He has been fat for years but is able to play through it so it's not a big deal. He has started this season in poor shape but he is now in his usual shape after having lost 12kg (26pds).

[alamo50]

Yep.

[TJastal]

Might be worth mentioning here...

Zach Randolph. Heeeeee's baaaaaaaack, folks. 25 points off the bench in his return.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=320316029

So against teams like the lakers and grizzlies, does Boris Diaw have enough size and toughness to guard guys like Randolph and Andrew Bynum? Or would he be just another turd that can't hold his own? I think the existing turd towers don't need yet a 3rd addition. Thoughts?

[sonic21]

With the right team, he will be effective. His first (and last good) year with Charlotte he was putting pretty good numbers, Larry Brown was always praising him. Then, charlotte lost all their good players (felton, wallace, okafor, jackson) and he wasn't really motivated.

[TJastal]

With the right team, he will be effective. His first (and last good) year with Charlotte he was putting pretty good numbers, Larry Brown was always praising him. Then, charlotte lost all their good players (felton, wallace, okafor, jackson) and he wasn't really motivated.

If you take any kind of pride in yourself and your game then motivation really should never be an issue, IMO. That kind of scares me about this guy, tbh.

[sonic21]

[/b]

If you take any kind of pride in yourself and your game then motivation really should never be an issue, IMO. That kind of scares me about this guy, tbh.

i don't like his mentality but the risk of this happening with the spurs is low. If he's playing like with the NT this summer, i'm not worried about his motivation.

[angelbelow]

Diaw is fine both physically and mentally. He has been fat for years but is able to play through it so it's not a big deal. He has started this season in poor shape but he is now in his usual shape after having lost 12kg (26pds).

Great to hear. Would really love to see him here now. What do you think the price tag is going to be for Diaw? Hopefully if hes not greedy, the difference in his buy out. But more likely, hes going take the mini MLE.

[ace3g]

Rick Bonnell ‏ @rick_bonnell


Interesting that Paul Silas chose to activate Gana Diop over Boris Diaw tonight. And before you ask, nothing new yet on a buyout.

--

Maybe the Bobcats were making a decision on who to buyout; Diaw or Diop (both have been inactive for about the same time) and finally made a decision to go with Diaw.

[slick'81]

come on diaw get over here

[Latarian Milton]

diaw can also play C when the team goes small & plays run-and-gun

[DontStopBelieving]

I have a feeling Blair's defense would put Diaw's to shame. I agree, this is NOT the type of player needed. Turiaf otoh is the exact opposite of Diaw and IS the guy for the job.

agreed

[anakha]

I have a feeling Blair's defense would put Diaw's to shame. I agree, this is NOT the type of player needed.

What, another take proven wrong again? You don't say...

[Mal]

:lmao

[NickiRasgo]

7-7 tonight.

[TampaDude]

7-7 tonight.

Yup...including 2-2 from 3.

He BALLLLLLLLLLIN'!!!!! :hat

[Mal]

on the other hand, timvp's first post in this thread was spot on

As for the Spurs this guy is way better than 2/3 espn analyst.

[Brazil]

second best spurs big

[Buddy Holly]

TJastal looking like a dumbass yet again.

[Old School 44]

I'm sure all the down time between series, the coaching staff really talked to Boris about being more agreesive offensively, but I think the biggest thing, something that no other team could have offered if he had signed elsewhere, is his best friend echoing that sentiment in his ear. I liked the signing when it happened. I love it now!

I have to admit, I thought the Jackson acquisition was far and away the best pickup of the season, but now I'd have to say the Diaw signing is proving to be much, much better.

[SpursIndonesia]

I'm sure all the down time between series, the coaching staff really talked to Boris about being more agreesive offensively, but I think the biggest thing, something that no other team could have offered if he had signed elsewhere, is his best friend echoing that sentiment in his ear. I liked the signing when it happened. I love it now!

I have to admit, I thought the Jackson acquisition was far and away the best pickup of the season, but now I'd have to say the Diaw signing is proving to be much, much better.

This IS the best moment for Diaw, the right series for him to shine, with dumb frontcourt Clippers bigmen, and Griffin's bad knee allowing Diaw's sound positional defense to be effective, while making his man to man defense becomes advantagious rather than the opposite.

IF the Spurs make it to the final, AND meet the Heat or Celtics, you'll see Capt Jax toughness and length on the perimeter defense shine. Don't sell him short just yet, he still has plenty in the tank -and chasing around Clippers quick, small wings/guards is certainly a very difficult task for him.

[jestersmash]

Diaw is more passive than soft. His post defense is surprisingly good and when he's in shape, his perimeter defense is really good (for a power forward).

The risk is that Pop hates hesitant shooters and Diaw is definitely a hesitant shooter.

"timstradamus"-vp with the spot on take :tu

[Obstructed_View]

He's way better than I thought he'd be. Happy to eat crow on this one.

[Russ]

Aquiring Diaw probably would not be a mistake.

You know what would be?

Blowing up the team because the Spurs can't possibly compete for a title anymore and because the best they can hope for is a high draft pick.

Then getting teary-eyed and reminiscing about how great the Spurs' run was and how it was something we can always remember -- like Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca telling Ingrid Bergman, "We'll always have Paris."

But I'm sure no one around here would ever do that. :)

[Jimcs50]

Diaw is more passive than soft. His post defense is surprisingly good and when he's in shape, his perimeter defense is really good (for a power forward).

The risk is that Pop hates hesitant shooters and Diaw is definitely a hesitant shooter.



:p:

He shoots when he should shoot, but his passing is like watching art.

[Jimcs50]

Aquiring Diaw probably would not be a mistake.

You know what would be?

Blowing up the team because the Spurs can't possibly compete for a title anymore and because the best they can hope for is a high draft pick.

Then getting teary-eyed and reminiscing about how great the Spurs' run was and how it was something we can always remember -- like Humphrey Bogart in Casablanca telling Ingrid Bergman, "We'll always have Paris."

But I'm sure no one around here would ever do that. :)

Are you aware that your post does not make sense? They already acquired Diaw. You post is like someone saying in 1985 that it would be a good idea to buy Microsoft stock.

[Russ]

Are you aware that your post does not make sense? They already acquired Diaw. You post is like someone saying in 1985 that it would be a good idea to buy Microsoft stock.

They got Diaw? Yeahhhh!

[Agloco]

Diaw even looks like less of a scoring threat than RJ but a much better passer.

Seems like a mistake if the Spurs sign him unless he turns into a solid defender, it'd be like getting RJ back, no?


I have a feeling Blair's defense would put Diaw's to shame. I agree, this is NOT the type of player needed. Turiaf otoh is the exact opposite of Diaw and IS the guy for the job.

I can almost guarantee that these opinions were born of watching Diaw guard Duncan in the mid 2000s.

:lol


TJastal looking like a dumbass yet again.

[TVI]

"timstradamus"-vp with the spot on take :tu

Timvp is so good, professional sportswriters plagurize him...

[Hooks]

Everything I heard about him was that he was soft lol, luckily hes been a perfect fit offensively and has been playing some really great defense.

[Fabbs]

No it won't.

Replacing Blair by Diaw in Spurs rotation would make them significantly better on both end of the court. Diaw is a good player and a good fit for Spurs. It's as simple as that. If Diaw is bought out, going hard after him is a no brainer for Spurs.
Bruno, others with the goods.

[8FOR!3]

So in other words, Timvp raped this thread. Couldn't have been more spot on about Diaw.

[hater]

Everything I've read about this guy says that he's soft as hell, I've never really seen him play though so I'm gonna have to take their word for it. The Spurs don't need a guy like that, they just got rid of one.


What really separates him from RJ? The fact that he's listed as a PF and RJ a SF? We saw RJ constantly get raped whenever he played PF, it seems like with Diaw it'd be the same thing. They're practically the same size, same height and weight, RJ is more muscular though.

Diaw even looks like less of a scoring threat than RJ but a much better passer.

Seems like a mistake if the Spurs sign him unless he turns into a solid defender, it'd be like getting RJ back, no?

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/charles-shake-weight.gif

[sehui]

lmao at almost everyone in this thread except a select few like Bruno who thought Boris wouldn't be a good fit.

Let this be a lesson for you wannabe NBA Nostradamuses out there

[Mugen]

Greys being greys, tbh.

:lol TJastal
:lol Only seen a handful of spurs games this year
:lol thinks he knows better than Pop/RC

[NASpurs]

Greys being greys, tbh.

:lol TJastal
:lol Only seen a handful of spurs games this year
:lol thinks he knows better than Pop/RC

TJastal: "I've read every single Timvp grade thread, and I feel that's almost as good as watching a game tbh."

:lmao

Disclaimer: I think timvp does a quality job with his grades but saying "almost as good as watching a game"?

[I. Hustle]

So.... howzit working out?

[Brazil]

"timstradamus"-vp with the spot on take :tu

? everybody who has followed a bit Diaw knows that his main flaw is his passiveness and his constant habit to not shoot wide open shoots.

there is nothing stradamus on expecting that, he is doing that since he is 15 y/o