Oh great...another %$^#@* law that costs me money...

[CosmicCowboy]

Just found out that they are outlawing the T12 fluorescents and I'm going to have to replace all the fixtures in my office and shop because I won't be able to buy the bulbs anymore...fuck

[TeyshaBlue]

Lemme see if I can morph this into another coffee thread.:lol

[TeyshaBlue]

Ahh read up on it a little...it's the magnetic ballast that these use that is driving the ban.
Fixtures should be fine. Just new electronic ballasts and the energy saving flourescents, like the 34W F40T12 that work with them. Doesn't sound like you'll have to replace them all at the same time.

[CosmicCowboy]

By the time you buy ballasts and bulbs individually it's usually just cheaper to buy the fixture.

[clambake]

real men don't need light.

[clambake]

real men rip the roof above them.

[clambake]

at night, real men lasso the moon.

[clambake]

had to work it out for day and night.

[I.R.S.]

Stop whining and write it off as an office expense.

[DarrinS]

By the time you buy ballasts and bulbs individually it's usually just cheaper to buy the fixture.

Replace the ballast and you should get your return on investment in about 7 years.

Cheers.

[Wild Cobra]

at night, real men lasso the moon.
That would be a hate crime using a noose. Just ask those in Jena.

[Wild Cobra]

The never endless regulations...

When will the government stop fucking with people trying to make an honest living?

[ElNono]

The never endless regulations...

When will the government stop fucking with people trying to make an honest living?

That's what Pablo Escobar was wondering too, tbh

[CosmicCowboy]

That's what Pablo Escobar was wondering too, tbh

I get the humor but in this case they just outlawed my light fixtures to force me to buy new ones that are more "energy efficient". It's not that big a deal if it's a couple but make that X20 and it's a shitload of money.

Hardly a crime to equate with an international drug dealer and murderer.

[spursncowboys]

That's what Pablo Escobar was wondering too, tbh

And Tony Rezko

[Wild Cobra]

I get the humor but in this case they just outlawed my light fixtures to force me to buy new ones that are more "energy efficient". It's not that big a deal if it's a couple but make that X20 and it's a shitload of money.

Hardly a crime to equate with an international drug dealer and murderer.

Isn't there some type of a grandfather clause? I could see not having the option to buy the same type of fixtures, but to force you to replace them isn't right.

I know... Lets tear down all houses built by 1970 code or earlier, unless the owners will pay to bring them to to the most recent code, and retrofit every time there is a code change.

Isn't that a similar thing?

[Winehole23]

in other words, the law should gently encourage people to swap out ballasts, or whatever? all current possessors being grandfathered out, as you suggest...

[George Gervin's Afro]

The never endless regulations...

When will the government stop fucking with people trying to make an honest living?

since when have people been stopped trying to make an honest living?

[Das Texan]

Just found out that they are outlawing the T12 fluorescents and I'm going to have to replace all the fixtures in my office and shop because I won't be able to buy the bulbs anymore...fuck


Federales using you to help stimulate the economy.

[Wild Cobra]

Federales using you to help stimulate the economy.
Really?

Which countries are these made in again?

[Das Texan]

Really?

Which countries are these made in again?


which are they sold in?

[Wild Cobra]

which are they sold in?
If you think retail is so great, then strive to be a sales clerk.

[JoeChalupa]

All I know is that those bulbs that are supposed to last for thousands of hours are BS. They still burn out just like the others.

[CosmicCowboy]

All I know is that those bulbs that are supposed to last for thousands of hours are BS. They still burn out just like the others.

Those curly q fluorescents are fine if you leave them on all the time. It's turning them off and on (like most people do with lights) that kill them.

[JoeChalupa]

Those curly q fluorescents are fine if you leave them on all the time. It's turning them off and on (like most people do with lights) that kill them.

Ah, I did not know that.

[TDMVPDPOY]

welcome to communist america

[Wild Cobra]

Those curly q fluorescents are fine if you leave them on all the time. It's turning them off and on (like most people do with lights) that kill them.
This is true with some. Probably cheaper to leave them on.