Dirk or Duncan?

[BUMP]

Who would you take in their primes?

Both have very similar careers while possessing to different types of styles. Dirk was immensely better at shooting from outside, while Duncan slightly gets the edge inside.

In terms of defense and rebounding it's just about a push but i give a slight edge to Duncan due to him being marginally better at off ball help defense. Leadership definitely goes to Dirk since teammates have said they just like playing around him more and you don't hear that with Duncan's teammates.

After all this considered I'd probably take Dirk and rate him as the best PF ever with Duncan at #2. What do you guys think?

[timvp]

Duncan slightly gets the edge inside


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Seriously though, in his prime, I might take Dirk over any power forward not named Duncan. Chuckwagon is close but I'd take Dirk, tbh.

[Drachen]

Please no one take the bait.

[Spurfect21]

Please no one take the bait.

Thank u...this post cannot be serious with the "slightly give him the edge inside"...

[Arcadian]

Duncan had/has a way better post game. I do give Dirk credit for improving on his, but still. Duncan just has more moves than any other player in history. And it's not like Dirk is incapable of it; he just has a different style. He prefers to shoot jumpers, therefore he has more practice with jumpers, therefore he is better at jumpers. The post game is secondary for him. A similar statement can be made about Duncan. He has the potential to be a great outside shooter if he cared to be, but he prefers to play in the post (a wise decision). He chooses to spend 90% of his practice time in the post, therefore he is better in the post than anyone else. Skills are simply the embodiment of sensory-motor experience. One's body type also plays a role in determining skills too, though.

Anyway, my rankings are:

1. Duncan
2. Malone
3. Garnett
4. Nowitzki
5. Pettit

[Stalin]

with the new influx of gnsf, success is most assured

[Texas_Ranger]

Dirk is great, but Dunca is greater. Dirk vs Garnett is a debate but this is really not that close.

[TDMVPDPOY]

duncan>dirk

but i take dirk over any other pf not name duncan

[Spursfan092120]

http://images.wikia.com/potcoplayers/images/5/56/Please-dont-feed-the-trolls.jpg

[baseline bum]

I would take Manu.

[rasho8]

Dirk has 1500 more points all time
Duncan has 4000 more rebounds
Duncan has 700 more assists
Duncan has 1400 more blocks
Duncan has 3 more championships
Duncan has 2 more finals mvps
Duncan has 1 more MVP
Duncan has 1 more allstar appearance
Duncan has an allstar MVP
Duncan has a higher win percentage

Where is the argument?

[benefactor]

Any non-Mavericks fan is taking Duncan pretty easily...but I agree with timvp...Dirk would be hard to pass up behind him. Dirk was just unfortunate to land in Dallas where they didn't have a clue how to build a team around him until recently.

I take Dirk over Malone, Garnett or any other PF.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Both great players, but Dirk's game was/is a lot more exciting than Duncan's.

[Proxy]

Both great players, but Dirk's game was/is a lot more exciting than Duncan's.

That's why the Spurs drafted Manu

[JRHernandez88]

dirk has 1500 more points all time
duncan has 4000 more rebounds
duncan has 700 more assists
duncan has 1400 more blocks
duncan has 3 more championships
duncan has 2 more finals mvps
duncan has 1 more mvp
duncan has 1 more allstar appearance
duncan has an allstar mvp
duncan has a higher win percentage

where is the argument?
for the win.

[Juggity]

a transparent effort, tbh

[Gibbz]

Really?

Dirk's prime lasted for like one postseason.

[SamoanTD]

Me?

[housious]

Who would you take in their primes?

Both have very similar careers while possessing to different types of styles. Dirk was immensely better at shooting from outside, while Duncan slightly gets the edge inside.

In terms of defense and rebounding it's just about a push but i give a slight edge to Duncan due to him being marginally better at off ball help defense. Leadership definitely goes to Dirk since teammates have said they just like playing around him more and you don't hear that with Duncan's teammates.

After all this considered I'd probably take Dirk and rate him as the best PF ever with Duncan at #2. What do you guys think?

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w438/house0909/tumblr_m1617xvg0t1qc0pus.gif

http://i1075.photobucket.com/albums/w438/house0909/faggot.jpg

[Cant_Be_Faded]

The problem is, dirk didn't overcome his choke factor til last year. Duncan had always lacked Ruth

[100%duncan]

I'd prefer Bonner over those two any day,tbh.

[Brazil]

good season to fish

[bklynspursfan]

Dirk has 1500 more points all time
Duncan has 4000 more rebounds
Duncan has 700 more assists
Duncan has 1400 more blocks
Duncan has 3 more championships
Duncan has 2 more finals mvps
Duncan has 1 more MVP
Duncan has 1 more allstar appearance
Duncan has an allstar MVP
Duncan has a higher win percentage

Where is the argument?

:chestbump

[bklynspursfan]

Who would you take in their primes?

Both have very similar careers while possessing to different types of styles. Dirk was immensely better at shooting from outside, while Duncan slightly gets the edge inside.

In terms of defense and rebounding it's just about a push but i give a slight edge to Duncan due to him being marginally better at off ball help defense. Leadership definitely goes to Dirk since teammates have said they just like playing around him more and you don't hear that with Duncan's teammates.

After all this considered I'd probably take Dirk and rate him as the best PF ever with Duncan at #2. What do you guys think?

:idiot:pimpslap

[100%duncan]

I can't believe most of you are taking this thread seriously, seriously?

[Stalin]

^ :lol

[jhuan16]

Is this a trick question?

[007nites]

Lets see Dirk put up 21 points, 15 rebounds, and 4 assists in 24 minutes of PT

[xellos88330]

:corn:

[Spursfanfromafar]

Will take both, thank you.

[DAF86]

Hard question but in the end Duncan's taste in women gives him the edge, imho.

P/S: Manu > Dirk

[jestersmash]

Hard question but in the end Duncan's taste in women gives him the edge, imho.

P/S: Manu > Dirk

Career Win Shares per 48 minutes for all active NBA players: (http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_per_48_career.html)

1. Chris Paul (.2353) (overall rank = 5)
2. Lebron James (.2322) (overall rank = 6)
3. Manu Ginobili (.2145) (overall rank = 10) <----
4. Tim Duncan (.2143) (overall rank = 11)
5. Dirk Nowitzki (.2126) (overall rank = 14) <----
6. Dwayne Wade (.1956) (overall rank = 22)
7. Kevin Garnett (.1905) (overall rank = 25)
8. Dwight Howard (.1887) (overall rank = 26)
9. Kobe Bryant (.1852) (overall rank = 29)
10. Pau Gasol (.1791) (overall rank = 35)

Michael Jordan ranks 1 in WS/48 with a blistering .2505

David Robinson and Wilt Chamberlain round out the top 3 all time.

Man I love advanced statistics :lol

[housious]

Dirk fucked a tranny prison inmate.

[ElNono]

Still fishing for OV gems?

[mkurts]

I'd choose Kevin Love in his prime than Dirk in his prime, and what's even worse is that even JET is a much better clutch shooter than he is, and the clutch ability is what I consider as one of the key attributes of a great player - even for power forwards.

And Duncan in his prime stands far above those two.

And remember guys like Julius Erving and Larry Bird ?

I think Dirk isn't Hall of Fame yet ....

[Sean Cagney]

dirk has 1500 more points all time
duncan has 4000 more rebounds
duncan has 700 more assists
duncan has 1400 more blocks
duncan has 3 more championships
duncan has 2 more finals mvps
duncan has 1 more mvp
duncan has 1 more allstar appearance
duncan has an allstar mvp
duncan has a higher win percentage

where is the argument?

shut em down..............

[slick'81]

:lol

[FkLA]

Seriously though, in his prime, I might take Dirk over any power forward not named Duncan. Chuckwagon is close but I'd take Dirk, tbh.

If were strictly talking about the offensive end I might agree, but otherwise why in the world would you do that ?

[bballaz19]

Dumbest thread of all time. Duncan is the greatest power forward to ever play the game you dumb fuck!

[Horse]

Any non-Mavericks fan is taking Duncan pretty easily...but I agree with timvp...Dirk would be hard to pass up behind him. Dirk was just unfortunate to land in Dallas where they didn't have a clue how to build a team around him until recently.

I take Dirk over Malone, Garnett or any other PF.
Fucking retarded dirk was a one-way player NO D NO D NO D! and an underachieving rebounder at his size.

[Fireball]

the second I read "in their prime" I thought this thread is really ridiculous ...

[Slutter McGee]

Dumbest thread of all time. Duncan is the greatest power forward to ever play the game you dumb fuck!

hook, line and sinker

Nice job OP

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[cheguevara]

any mav fan that thinks a 32 year old KG would not win a ship next to Chandler, Kidd and Bare is kidding themselves.

KG vs. Dirk is very debatable.

[100%duncan]

any mav fan that thinks a 32 year old KG would not win a ship next to Chandler, Kidd and Bare is kidding themselves.

KG vs. Dirk is very debatable.

seriously old dirk>old kg

[sonic21]

Dirk is better.

Easier to win with the best PG in the game tbh.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

While Timmy and Dirk are both good players, I would rather have a better, more underrated PF that everyone forgets. Antawn Jamison. In the grand scheme of things I have Antawn Jamison as the 2nd best PF ever behind only Karl Malone.

1. Malone
2. Jamison
3. Barkley
4. Pettit
5. Garnett
6. Duncan
7. Dirk

[ZB 512]

they play different positions so it's a difficult comparison

[ZB 512]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

everyone knows that Duncan is a center :)

[FkLA]

True. Its really hard to compare a center to a 7 ft SF/SG tbh.

[8FOR!3]

LOL @ this thread.

[maverick1948]

One question for all of you. What if? What if Garnett had spent 2 years in college instead of going straight to the NBA? You realize that he would have been in the same draft class as Duncan. Would that have changed the draft on the Spurs pick? How would it have effected the rest of the draft? Would Duncan have become a Spur, 76er or Celtic? Who would have gone 1st, Duncan Garnett or Van Horn?

Had he waited and the Spurs picked him to play with DRob and company, would we have 4 rings? Would he have gotten more or less? Garnett is one of my least favorite players but I respect his game over the years.

Dirk does not belong in this same conversation with Duncan, Malone, Garnett and a few others. He is maybe a top 15 PF but NOT close to the 3 listed above.

[BUMP]

Chuckwagon is close but I'd take Dirk, tbh.

Malone>Barkley imho

[timvp]

Grey nazis apparently aren't too perceptive, tbh.


Malone>Barkley imho

You must be speaking of the hregular season i saaaaiiid

[FkLA]

Grey spurfan intelligence, it never ceases to amaze :rollin

So I guess we can strip Tim of being the greatest PF of all time :lmao

Sure. We can strip Dirk of being the 5th greatest PF of all time as well tbh. :)

[ZB 512]

So I guess we can strip Tim of being the greatest PF of all time :lmao

yes indeed since he's not a PF :)

[ZB 512]

He is maybe a top 15 PF

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