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spursince#99
03-23-2012, 10:16 PM
I've come to the conclusion that we're so stacked Patty Mills could be expendable. What do you guys think? Weigh in.

timvp
03-23-2012, 10:18 PM
Why? Tonight pretty much proved the Spurs desperately need another point guard option.

100%duncan
03-23-2012, 10:18 PM
have you seen our "point guards"? my goodness

benefactor
03-23-2012, 10:18 PM
Your conclusions don't really matter, because the Spurs have signed him. Hope this helps.

Dex
03-23-2012, 10:19 PM
Nay. Manu held down the point okay, but it took him away from his own game, and Gary Neal just looked bad.

NASpurs
03-23-2012, 10:19 PM
GNSF approved thread :tu

Mal
03-23-2012, 10:19 PM
Every pair of legs could help

Solid D
03-23-2012, 10:20 PM
Gary Neal was well below average. So much so, Manu was in the game with under 2 min. to play and a nice lead.

PhingerRoll
03-23-2012, 10:20 PM
Dude, we are stacked, no doubt... But don't kid yourself thinking that we don't need a backup point guard...

spursince#99
03-23-2012, 10:21 PM
yeah Gary was pretty bad lol

100%duncan
03-23-2012, 10:22 PM
This has gotta be a troll thread,tbh.

TMTTRIO
03-23-2012, 10:22 PM
We could use him. As we saw tonight Manu was awful at playing pg. First few seconds he was out there he turned the ball over.

spursince#99
03-23-2012, 10:23 PM
This has gotta be a troll thread,tbh.

Oh.

100%duncan
03-23-2012, 10:24 PM
we could use him. As we saw tonight manu was awful at playing pg. First few seconds he was out there he turned the ball over.

twice

pgardn
03-23-2012, 10:25 PM
Yes.

Being able to get the ball up the court under pressure in the playoffs is critical. I thought we could somehow get a Tony/Neal/Manu rotation in which we would always have two of these 3 in the backcourt. It wont work. I would rather have Ford. Neal is so clearly not a pg. Mills it is.

Solid D
03-23-2012, 10:26 PM
We could use him. As we saw tonight Manu was awful at playing pg. First few seconds he was out there he turned the ball over.

Manu led the team in assists and was +19 with only 11 points himself. Yeah, he stinks.

100%duncan
03-23-2012, 10:26 PM
Let us not make Neal the RM jr. jr.

pgardn
03-23-2012, 10:28 PM
Let us not make Neal the RM jr. jr.

Just thinking that.

Well stated.

spursince#99
03-23-2012, 10:31 PM
with that being said, I feel bad for Neal as he's the most likely to lose minutes.

100%duncan
03-23-2012, 10:34 PM
with that being said, I feel bad for Neal as he's the most likely to lose minutes.

I think Pop's gonna share Green's minutes with him, with Manu leading the 2 and sometimes sjax too

SilverSpur
03-23-2012, 10:36 PM
We need him. I can already hear you guys when Tony or Manu get hurt during the playoffs, why didn't we sign him and give him the remaining 19 games to learn or offense.

Darkwaters
03-23-2012, 10:37 PM
with that being said, I feel bad for Neal as he's the most likely to lose minutes.

With Danny Green's recent re-emergence out of his slump things are a little fuzzy again. The reality is that one of either Green or Neal will probably fall out of the playoff rotation (except for spot minute duty or very specific situations). It'll probably come down to who the Spurs think can run the back-up PG reasonably well for 10 minutes a game.

A few weeks ago I thought it was obviously going to be Gary Neal and Green had played himself out of the playoffs. But the last 4 games have been a re-emergence for Danny, and he might be back in the conversation. It's hard to say. But if tonight was any indication, I think I might favor Danny at this juncture.

spursince#99
03-23-2012, 10:38 PM
I think Pop's gonna share Green's minutes with him, with Manu leading the 2 and sometimes sjax too

so that means J.A is inactive come PO time huh?

K-State Spur
03-23-2012, 10:38 PM
i don't think he becomes a regular in the playoff rotation if that's what you're asking.

but we do need another PG to eat up some minutes to help us finish out the year. Manu's fine in the role, Neal has his ups and downs - but both have to work much harder when they're running point vs. off ball.

spursince#99
03-23-2012, 10:40 PM
With Danny Green's recent re-emergence out of his slump things are a little fuzzy again. The reality is that one of either Green or Neal will probably fall out of the playoff rotation (except for spot minute duty or very specific situations). It'll probably come down to who the Spurs think can run the back-up PG reasonably well for 10 minutes a game.

A few weeks ago I thought it was obviously going to be Gary Neal and Green had played himself out of the playoffs. But the last 4 games have been a re-emergence for Danny, and he might be back in the conversation. It's hard to say. But if tonight was any indication, I think I might favor Danny at this juncture.

you don't think we could at least go 10 deep in the playoffs since we are imo the deepest team?

lefty
03-23-2012, 10:42 PM
You suck at conclusion

spursince#99
03-23-2012, 10:44 PM
You suck at conclusion

fuk what you think I suck at clown

jeebus
03-23-2012, 10:46 PM
You suck at conclusion

benfti
03-23-2012, 11:26 PM
I found this, this was the box score from the last time France played against Australia, it was only from 6 months ago actually.

Yes, TP got the better of Patty that day. But look at that stat line.
http://www.hoopsfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/France-Australia-Box-Score-London-International-Basketball-Invitational1.jpg

the question should not be "do we really need him" but "why wouldn't we want him?" having a guy sitting on your bench who could do that???? a guy with no names helping him going up against TP, Batum, Diaw and Noah????

we are officially the best, deepest team in the NBA when his Visa is cleared.

benfti
03-23-2012, 11:26 PM
sorry for the double

Beaverfuzz
03-23-2012, 11:28 PM
I've come to the conclusion that we're so stacked Patty Mills could be expendable. What do you guys think? Weigh in.

You are a fucking retard.

spursince#99
03-23-2012, 11:30 PM
sorry for the double

ehhh he only had 1 assist and didn't particularly shoot that well from the field either.

spursince#99
03-23-2012, 11:31 PM
You are a fucking retard.

who are you though? Stop trying to fit in you fucking clown

roycrikside
03-23-2012, 11:37 PM
We could use him. As we saw tonight Manu was awful at playing pg. First few seconds he was out there he turned the ball over.

How fortunate for us then that basketball games last 48 minutes and not a few seconds. :lol

Manu finished with 7 assists to 3 turnovers in 28 minutes against one of the best defenses in the NBA in terms of limiting assists and in FG%. That's pretty good, I think, considering it's not his primary position. He was also at his best in the fourth quarter, when it matters most.

crc21209
03-23-2012, 11:41 PM
Why? Tonight pretty much proved the Spurs desperately need another point guard option.

Exactly. Neal and Manu running the point tonight wasnt very pretty.....

benfti
03-24-2012, 12:06 AM
ehhh he only had 1 assist and didn't particularly shoot that well from the field either.

Fiba assist rules are different to the NBA. they are a lot harder to get, TP only had one as well, and he was dishing to a lot better finishers than the Aussies had

Obstructed_View
03-24-2012, 09:07 AM
If last night didn't convince you that the Spurs desperately need point guards, then you aren't watching basketball correctly.

SenorSpur
03-24-2012, 09:49 AM
If Mills does nothing more than allow Pop to rest TP as we head toward the end of the season, the acquisition would've been well worth it. I certainly don't expect Mills to be active for the playoffs, but who knows?

TheCerebral1
03-24-2012, 12:48 PM
Gary Neal is not a facilitator. He works better with the ball not in his hands. Where he can run the lanes and receive the pass and shoot. He really doesn't have good bally handling techniques or court vision. Patty Mills is going to fit in nicely. Regardless of size.

spursfaninla
03-24-2012, 12:57 PM
With Danny Green's recent re-emergence out of his slump things are a little fuzzy again. The reality is that one of either Green or Neal will probably fall out of the playoff rotation (except for spot minute duty or very specific situations). It'll probably come down to who the Spurs think can run the back-up PG reasonably well for 10 minutes a game.

A few weeks ago I thought it was obviously going to be Gary Neal and Green had played himself out of the playoffs. But the last 4 games have been a re-emergence for Danny, and he might be back in the conversation. It's hard to say. But if tonight was any indication, I think I might favor Danny at this juncture.

My thoughts too. I am rooting for Green, because if he is more versatile too.

Darkwaters
03-24-2012, 01:02 PM
ehhh he only had 1 assist and didn't particularly shoot that well from the field either.

Really? How do you figure that?

He shot 2/4 from 2 (50%) and 4/11 from 3 (36%). Thats not bad at all.

And as far as assist numbers - I'd probably chalk that up to the band of no-names he shared the court with.

Darkwaters
03-24-2012, 01:07 PM
If Mills does nothing more than allow Pop to rest TP as we head toward the end of the season, the acquisition would've been well worth it. I certainly don't expect Mills to be active for the playoffs, but who knows?

Oh, I'd imagine he'll be active. He may not play, but he'll be active.

Active
Parker
Mills
Ginobili
Jackson
Leonard
Green
Neal
Duncan
Splitter
Diaw
Bonner
Blair

Inactive
Joseph (assigned in Austin)
Anderson
D-League filler

Spur|n|Austin
03-24-2012, 01:11 PM
I've come to the conclusion that we're so stacked Patty Mills could be expendable. What do you guys think? Weigh in.

Not to beat this dead horse, or even attack your post personally, but your way off on your conclusion there guy.

Proxy
03-24-2012, 02:37 PM
Manu is good enough, but we don't want him playing PG. Neal did good enough in the regular season for the team to get by... showed flashes, but anyone who thinks he wouldn't get exploited in the playoffs is sadly mistaken. We need Manu and Neal to be at their best if the team wants to capitalize, and that's with both playing SG. Mills is necessary, imo.