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sharkenleo
03-26-2012, 04:46 PM
Does it bother you when people say there should be an asterisk next to the 99 championship?
Last time I checked the playoffs were still the same length. The fact that the regular season was shortened is irrelevant, the playoffs still did what they were supposed to do. They narrowed the field to the best team in the league.
But you know if the spurs get #5 this year, there will still be idiots that insist the spurs really only have 3.8 titles or something stupid like that.
Mel_13
03-26-2012, 04:49 PM
All look the same to me.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljt09s9ReI1qfkop6o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1332884909&Signature=Ch6DWqyP2XVWexJqSibcc4MgN8g%3D
ChumpDumper
03-26-2012, 04:53 PM
Does it bother you when people say there should be an asterisk next to the 99 championship?Nope. Whatever it was, their team didn't win.
What is interesting is that by process of elimination, you are a loser if you are handing out *s to NBA championship teams... Winners just don't do that.
Also - I think we have two different types of sports fans in this world. Those that believe that the best team actually goes out and proves it, and those that believe the best team is the one that looks best on paper (regardless of the outcome on the playing field/court)
Anonymous Cowherd
03-26-2012, 05:06 PM
All look the same to me.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljt09s9ReI1qfkop6o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1332884909&Signature=Ch6DWqyP2XVWexJqSibcc4MgN8g%3D
while I agree with and support the sentiment, it did amuse me to notice that there is in that photo, in fact, a massive asterisk-shaped light above the 1999 banner...... :lol
T Park
03-26-2012, 05:22 PM
There's only an asterisk to Phil Jackson and I couldn't give two shits what he thinks....
sharkenleo
03-26-2012, 05:32 PM
There's only an asterisk to Phil Jackson and I couldn't give two shits what he thinks....
Fuck Phil Jackson. Guy is full of himself. Sure he has 11 championships, but any half decent NBA coach would've won those championships with the Bulls teams of the 90's.
Phil has never built a championship team from the ground up.
Sean Cagney
03-26-2012, 05:35 PM
Nope. Whatever it was, their team didn't win.
:lobt2:
Seems to me that all the other teams had the same chance to win the 1999 title as the Spurs did, and they didn't get it done. So I just chalk it up to "haters gonna hate".
I'd be perfectly happy to see the Spurs pull in a 2012* as well. And so would 29 other teams.
BadOne
03-26-2012, 05:50 PM
Nope. Whatever it was, their team didn't win.
This...
Had L.A. or anyone else won for that matter...you know damn well they wouldn't claim an asterisk over their title. It's always been hater-ade at it's best.
Obstructed_View
03-26-2012, 06:16 PM
Nope.
timvp
03-26-2012, 06:19 PM
2003 killed the asterisk. 2005 buried it.
LoneStarState'sPride
03-26-2012, 06:20 PM
That shit quit bothering me over a decade ago tbh
TDMVPDPOY
03-26-2012, 06:20 PM
phil jackson wouldnt be saying that shit if the lakers wons that year
Obstructed_View
03-26-2012, 06:25 PM
phil jackson wouldnt be saying that shit if the lakers wons that year
He wouldn't have been named coach if the Lakers had won that year. I think he took the job the day the Finals started or the day of the championship parade. He always thought it was cute to do and say shit like that. Just made him come off as classless, though he probably isn't.
Cry Havoc
03-26-2012, 06:26 PM
2003 killed the asterisk. 2005 buried it.
2007 threw dirt on the grave.
Splits
03-26-2012, 06:29 PM
2007 threw dirt on the grave.
2012 is going to piss on the dirt.
therealtruth
03-26-2012, 06:35 PM
phil jackson wouldnt be saying that shit if the lakers wons that year
He wasn't coaching the Lakers in '99. Under PJ the Lakers went from a team the Spurs swept to one they couldn't beat for two straight years.
therealtruth
03-26-2012, 06:41 PM
He wouldn't have been named coach if the Lakers had won that year. I think he took the job the day the Finals started or the day of the championship parade. He always thought it was cute to do and say shit like that. Just made him come off as classless, though he probably isn't.
Phil plays mind games and says stuff to get into people's heads. It's worked against alot of coaches.
ThaBigFundamental21
03-26-2012, 06:55 PM
It doesn't bother me, no. Every team in the NBA is out there playing their asses off to win the title. And every fan wants the NBA title for their team, be it a strike shortened year or not. And they will gladly claim it. However, any team who wins the title will be under scrutiny from opposing jealous fans. It's just the way it goes. TBH, the champion of this years NBA has as tough a road as any team in recent memory, based on the condensed schedule alone. This season is no cake walk, and 66 games is still a long season.
Obstructed_View
03-26-2012, 07:03 PM
He wasn't coaching the Lakers in '99. Under PJ the Lakers went from a team the Spurs swept to one they couldn't beat for two straight years.
If we're talking about asterisks, then I'd say that Duncan's injury in 2000 and Anderson's injury in 2001 were bigger reasons the Spurs couldn't beat the Lakers than Phil Jackson's arrival. Maybe I have the years wrong but I'm too tired to look it up. :)
Spursfan092120
03-26-2012, 07:25 PM
Asterisks in this case are bullshit. Everybody played the same amount of games..everybody had the opportunity to practice together the same, some more than others. One reason people argue the asterisk is because with a shorter season, you don't see as many injuries. I'd argue that this year, there's MORE injuries than most full seasons, because of having to shove all those games together.
Agloco
03-26-2012, 07:27 PM
All look the same to me.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljt09s9ReI1qfkop6o1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId =AKIAJ6IHWSU3BX3X7X3Q&Expires=1332884909&Signature=Ch6DWqyP2XVWexJqSibcc4MgN8g%3D
Honestly, the 1999 banner appears to be more wrinkled than the others. :stirpot:
There's also a bluish hue surrounding it. :lol
galvatron3000
03-26-2012, 07:27 PM
If we're talking about asterisks, then I'd say that Duncan's injury in 2000 and Anderson's injury in 2001 were bigger reasons the Spurs couldn't beat the Lakers than Phil Jackson's arrival. Maybe I have the years wrong but I'm too tired to look it up. :)
yep:toast
Vic Petro
03-26-2012, 07:31 PM
The trophy is still the same size. The ring still has diamonds in it.
Agloco
03-26-2012, 07:39 PM
The trophy is still the same size. The ring still has diamonds in it.
The league could hand out trophies that were proportional to the number of games played that season, with 82 being a full sized trophy......
Obstructed_View
03-26-2012, 08:10 PM
while I agree with and support the sentiment, it did amuse me to notice that there is in that photo, in fact, a massive asterisk-shaped light above the 1999 banner...... :lol
:lol I noticed the same thing and hoped nobody else did.
pgardn
03-26-2012, 08:21 PM
We were much better than any other team. It was not even close. Play 50, Play 100, we had a crushing D that just wore teams down. Gosh I think we lost 2 whole playoff games.
End of story.
Blake
03-26-2012, 09:05 PM
Does it bother you when people say there should be an asterisk next to the 99 championship?
Yes *
* not really no
DeadlyDynasty
03-26-2012, 09:08 PM
Phil Jackson: trolling Spurfans for 13 years now.
CitizenDwayne
03-26-2012, 09:10 PM
It was a great playoff run, the start of the Duncan era (not to mention, the Memorial Day Miracle).
Let Phil have his small victory.
Sharkenleo do you post on TexAgs?
LoneStarState'sPride
03-26-2012, 11:51 PM
Sharkenleo do you post on TexAgs?
Nice avatar :toast
JRHernandez88
03-27-2012, 12:09 AM
while I agree with and support the sentiment, it did amuse me to notice that there is in that photo, in fact, a massive asterisk-shaped light above the 1999 banner...... :lol
LMAO I noticed that shit too. :lmao
sharkenleo
03-27-2012, 12:34 AM
Sharkenleo do you post on TexAgs?
What gave me away? ;)
What's your texags handle?
spurs1990
03-27-2012, 12:37 AM
If we're talking about asterisks, then I'd say that Duncan's injury in 2000 and Anderson's injury in 2001 were bigger reasons the Spurs couldn't beat the Lakers than Phil Jackson's arrival. Maybe I have the years wrong but I'm too tired to look it up. :)
Exactly my take back then. Even 2002 DRob was injured during the Lakers series.
So its goes like this:
NBA Champions
95-96 Chicago Bulls
96-97 Chicago Bulls
97-98 Chicago Bulls
1999 San Antonio Spurs
99-00 LA Lakers*
00-01 LA Lakers**
01-02 LA Lakers***
*Tim Duncan DNP playoffs
**Derek Anderson DNP 1st two games against LA
***David Robinson DNP 1st two games against LA
Obstructed_View
03-27-2012, 01:06 AM
I have to give '02 and '04 to the Lakers. The Spurs really didn't have any excuse not to win those series, and they got whupped. Those fourth quarter bitch slappings were embarrassing to watch.
therealtruth
03-27-2012, 02:16 AM
It's interesting that Phil Jackson not only had good players but he was extremely lucky. He never had to deal with injuries during the playoffs.
ViceCity84
03-27-2012, 10:36 AM
I remember Mike Bibby comparing last year's Heat team's defense to the 1999 Spurs
ROTFLMAO :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:l ol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
will_spurs
03-27-2012, 10:56 AM
2003 killed the asterisk. 2005 buried it.
Was going to say the same.
The asterisk came up quite often at first, and it's true that it would have been better to win the first championship in a normal season. But 3 more rings after that and I haven't heard the asterisk being mentioned in years.
G-Dawgg
03-27-2012, 11:09 AM
Doesn't bother me at all, in fact I can't wait until we get our 2012*
Horse
03-27-2012, 12:13 PM
Anyone who says or believes that is a fucking moron. And phil did more for his teams over the years by bitching about the refs than any coaching he ever did. How many times did we see Tony score at will the first couple games, then all the sudden get raped everytime he drove the lane and the whistles disappeared.
Nice avatar :toast
:toast
What gave me away? ;)
What's your texags handle?
Your user name... haha
I'll PM you
sharkenleo
03-27-2012, 06:59 PM
:toast
Your user name... haha
I'll PM you
I figured. Sarcasm. :P
I don't have a star so I don't get PMs.
dunkman
03-27-2012, 07:42 PM
The * was Phil's strategy to make Duncan, Pop and the Spurs nervous. It worked well in 01 and 02, but Pop figured Phil out in 03, Duncan was also in his prime. From there on, Phil has success against Pop in 04 and 08, however those Lakers teams had more talent that the Spurs teams.
Pop is a genius, but Phil is the best ever.
I don't have a star so I don't get PMs.
On this site
TampaDude
03-28-2012, 10:55 AM
Doesn't bother me at all, in fact I can't wait until we get our 2012*
:toast
YoMamaIsCallin
03-28-2012, 11:08 AM
I guess the * might at least be an argument if the playoffs were tightly contested and it was possible that the shortened season provided some factor that somehow was a positive for the Spurs, just enough to get them over the hump.
But... dudes... the Spurs lost TWO GAMES in the ENTIRE PLAYOFFS. They steamrolled the league.
QED. The asterisk is dead. The Spurs were just better that year.
Phenomanul
03-28-2012, 03:13 PM
Phil Jackson initially coined the phrase "there should be an asterisk placed by the 1999 Championship" while making his case that he believed a Jordan-led Bulls team could have again reached the NBA Finals if only the Bull's owner had settled with Jordan (contract extension negotiations) and not forced his exit from the league... That phrase was not necessarily meant to belittle the Spurs' organization at all...
Only later, and coincidently so, did Jackson himself end up with the team that would become our archrival for the majority of the next decade (the hated Los Angeles Lakers)... It was at that point that he propagated the phrase as a 'troll' tactic to get under Spursfandom's collective skin...
therealtruth
03-28-2012, 04:20 PM
Phil Jackson initially coined the phrase "there should be an asterisk placed by the 1999 Championship" while making his case that he believed a Jordan-led Bulls team could have again reached the NBA Finals if only the Bull's owner had settled with Jordan (contract extension negotiations) and not forced his exit from the league... That phrase was not necessarily meant to belittle the Spurs' organization at all...
Only later, and coincidently so, did Jackson himself end up with the team that would become our archrival for the majority of the next decade (the hated Los Angeles Lakers)... It was at that point that he propagated the phrase as a 'troll' tactic to get under Spursfandom's collective skin...
The Bulls definitely could have won it again if the team had been kept together. That would have been a good finals. Bulls vs Spurs.
Yes it bothers me. I cry every time I see it or hear it. It's not fair.
Phil Jackson initially coined the phrase "there should be an asterisk placed by the 1999 Championship" while making his case that he believed a Jordan-led Bulls team could have again reached the NBA Finals if only the Bull's owner had settled with Jordan (contract extension negotiations) and not forced his exit from the league... That phrase was not necessarily meant to belittle the Spurs' organization at all...
Only later, and coincidently so, did Jackson himself end up with the team that would become our archrival for the majority of the next decade (the hated Los Angeles Lakers)... It was at that point that he propagated the phrase as a 'troll' tactic to get under Spursfandom's collective skin...
So then whomever wins this year gets the same asterisk, since Cuban didn't resign TC, JJ, Caron and Peja up and quit.
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