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Solid D
03-28-2012, 01:02 AM
Spurs are now 27-2 when they take a lead into the 4th quarter...according to Ernie Johnson on NBAtv.

:wow :wow :wow

ducks
03-28-2012, 01:03 AM
their d sucks though

egtonecity
03-28-2012, 01:05 AM
What's their record when leading after the 4th?

Spur|n|Austin
03-28-2012, 01:09 AM
What's their record when leading after the 4th?

They've maintained 34-14.

jestersmash
03-28-2012, 01:12 AM
They've maintained 34-14.

Wrong.

According to Synergy, Spurs are 34-0 when leading after the 4th quarter.

Solid D
03-28-2012, 01:15 AM
I had hoped to see some commentary and pontification as to why the Spurs are 27-2 while leading going into the 4th quarter.

100%duncan
03-28-2012, 01:21 AM
Maybe because, they have the confidence going into the 4th?

roycrikside
03-28-2012, 01:22 AM
Wrong.

According to Synergy, Spurs are 34-0 when leading after the 4th quarter.

Also wrong.

roycrikside
03-28-2012, 01:30 AM
I had hoped to see some commentary and pontification as to why the Spurs are 27-2 while leading going into the 4th quarter.


Top 5 guesses, they can all be true, some may be true, or none may be true:

1. I haven't done the research, but I'd guess the Spurs play their best FG% defense in the fourth quarter. They sometimes have a lazy quarter or half, but dial it up a notch in the fourth when they have to, even in losses.

2. Also, gotta admit Parker's been beasting in the 4th quarters. That helps too.

3. Pop plays his stars less minutes than most teams, so theoretically you'd think Tim and Tony would have more juice in the 4th than their counterparts.

4. Benches traditionally play more minutes in the 2nd and 4th quarters, usually the first 4-6 minutes of the period. The Spurs bench has a huge edge on their opposition most nights, so a slim lead after 3 can extend.

5. Just random dumb luck that doesn't mean anything. (Answer Pop would most likely give.)

Darkwaters
03-28-2012, 01:58 AM
Wrong.

According to Synergy, Spurs are 34-0 when leading after the 4th quarter.

Thats quite a stat!

So I guess this team just needs to focus on being in the lead after the 4th. If they can consistently do that going forward they'll probably keep winning games.

jestersmash
03-28-2012, 02:08 AM
Thats quite a stat!

So I guess this team just needs to focus on being in the lead after the 4th. If they can consistently do that going forward they'll probably keep winning games.

Amazing stat ain't it? :lol

Spurs are also 34-0 when [(FGM-3PM)*2+(3PM*3)+(FTM)] > [(FGM-3PM)*2+(3PM*3)+(FTM)] for the opposing team by the end of the game.

With the Spurs dominating this super secret advanced stat, I see a :lobt2: in our near future.

roycrikside
03-28-2012, 02:35 AM
Thats quite a stat!

So I guess this team just needs to focus on being in the lead after the 4th. If they can consistently do that going forward they'll probably keep winning games.

It's quite a wrong stat. Spurs are actually only 31-0 when leading after the 4th.

Fireball
03-28-2012, 02:59 AM
It's quite a wrong stat. Spurs are actually only 31-0 when leading after the 4th.

because of overtime games ... understood

Darkwaters
03-28-2012, 03:07 AM
It's quite a wrong stat. Spurs are actually only 31-0 when leading after the 4th.

roycrikside just dropped a dime on you

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_euWeE45M_f8/SiyE0cND2kI/AAAAAAAAACk/KulHJzzYQMw/s320/Dimes.jpg

jestersmash
03-28-2012, 03:16 AM
roycrikside just dropped a dime on you

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_euWeE45M_f8/SiyE0cND2kI/AAAAAAAAACk/KulHJzzYQMw/s320/Dimes.jpg

Would've looked cooler if he left it at "Also wrong," tbh :lol

Mel_13
03-28-2012, 07:58 AM
The two losses were to Milwaukee (+2 after 3 qtrs) and Chicago (+1 after 3 qtrs).

FromWayDowntown
03-28-2012, 09:35 AM
Curiously, the Spurs are also 27-2 when leading at the half.

cheguevara
03-28-2012, 09:42 AM
more importantly. what is their record when trailing at the 1/2? 4th quarter?

FromWayDowntown
03-28-2012, 09:48 AM
According to this (http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/san-antonio-spurs/team/quarters/12/27/1):

7-11 when trailing at halftime.

5-11 when trailing after 3 quarters.

cheguevara
03-28-2012, 09:52 AM
interesting

urunobili
03-28-2012, 09:55 AM
Reason:

Tony has been playing like an MVP and has been closing teams out :tu

Rummpd
03-28-2012, 11:28 AM
It seems like the Spurs are more effective in the 3rd than in the past and if they can continue to come out and hold leads or catch teams before the 4th that is a good sign. The converse is that they are only something like 7-12 when trailing going into the 4th and some of them have been close going into the 4th. That seems odd as it seems like this resilient Spurs team has fought back a number of times this year?

timvp
03-28-2012, 01:32 PM
Spurs are now 27-2 when they take a lead into the 4th quarter...according to Ernie Johnson on NBAtv.

:wow :wow :wow

Great stat :tu

I agree with roycrikside that the two biggest reasons are probably defense and the closing ability of Tony Parker this season.

Points Allowed Per Quarter
First Quarter: 24.0
Second Quarter: 24.4
Third Quarter: 23.6
Fourth Quarter: 23.4

I guess if you have a sub par defensive team, you at least hope your best defensive quarter is the fourth quarter.

In fourth quarters this season, Parker is averaging 34.4 points per 48 minutes on 50.9% shooting. In the third and fourth quarters, Parker is also shooting 86.6% at the line ... which has to help keep leads and win close games.

Duncan also deserves quite a bit of the credit. His defense improves (in fourth quarters, he's averaging 15.2 rebounds and 3.1 blocks per 48 minutes), he knocks down his free throws (75% in the fourth) and seems to play with much more power on the offensive end.

And the nice thing is that once Ginobili is back at 100%, the Spurs should be even better in fourth quarters.

The Spurs probably can't keep up their 93% winning percentage when leading going into the fourth quarter but for this team to make a run in the playoffs, they're going to have to lean heavily on their fourth quarter execution. Truth be told, they probably don't have the horses to expect to be great defensively for 48 minutes. But if they can at least be elite for the final 12 minutes, that should allow them to make a run.

BG_Spurs_Fan
03-28-2012, 01:35 PM
Points Allowed Per Quarter
First Quarter: 24.0
Second Quarter: 24.4
Third Quarter: 23.6
Fourth Quarter: 23.4

I guess if you have a sub par defensive team, you at least hope your best defensive quarter is the fourth quarter.



I'd say the 3rd quarter is more telling as stats for the 4th are somewhat skewed because of blowouts ( either way ).

T Park
03-28-2012, 01:36 PM
Stats are misleading not taking into affect of Manu jax and Diaw being added.

The stats in a couple weeks post additions will be better...

Old School 44
03-28-2012, 02:04 PM
2. Also, gotta admit Parker's been beasting in the 4th quarters. That helps too.

5. Just random dumb luck that doesn't mean anything. (Answer Pop would most likely give.)

Agree, but it's probably Parker beasting in the 4th is number 1 and the Spurs overall depth number 2.

About 5. It's probably more like "Those 27 games we scored more points than them." - Pop

TampaDude
03-28-2012, 02:39 PM
It's quite a wrong stat. Spurs are actually only 31-0 when leading after the 4th.

Actually, if the Spurs are leading at the end of the 4th, they have won the game...there is no overtime.

Solid D
03-28-2012, 02:41 PM
Some excellent points so far! Totally true about TP's performance this year. I'm sure it's a combination of factors.

I will also add that I believe the Spurs move the ball and the defense so well with their passing that with the crowded game schedule this year, teams get more tired in the 4th quarter. A deep Spurs team that shares the ball so well and makes the extra pass can beat tired legs. The old basketball physics principle that a pass beats feet every time is in play here.