Flop of the Night: Tony Parker

[SpursRock20]

The Spurs are making news on ESPN....

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/39625/flop-of-the-night-tony-parker

I don't think this was a flop. It's painfully obvious that Dudley stuck his elbow out and fouled him. There is a definite difference of "selling a foul" and "flopping".

[cantthinkofanything]

LOL at Dudley complaining. Who can forget this Nash flop?

"owwww, my head!" ...please.

1pBeCQak588

[will_spurs]

TrueHoop is ESPN version of Yahoo's Balls Don't Lie. Their columnists must be intern on minimum wage whose life interests include everything EXCEPT sports.

[Pocket Hippo]

Uh, if a guy is actually fouled I don't think you can categorize it as a flop...
If this was a Wade or Kobe it would be "a savvy play" but it is a Spur so it is a flop. GTFO

[dbestpro]

Nothing more than tears for fears that the Spurs could be a finals team. Expect more media bashing of the team going forward.

[Dex]

I love how Nash flops over Tony's flop.

And that was totally a chicken wing by Dudley. Tony definitely embellished it to make sure the refs saw the foul, but it's still a foul.

[timvp]

Uh, that was an obvious foul. You can't stick your arm out to slow down a playing coming around a screen. Parker added some theater after getting hit but the ref makes that call either way.

[Chris]

I emailed the columnist a definition of a flop. What happened to Tony was a foul, he just let the referees know it was a foul.

[Fabbs]

How long has BSPN-Lakers been running this column?

Was Derek Swisher or Kobitch ever featured? :lol

[xellos88330]

I only consider it a flop if there wasn't a foul. There was a foul.

*insert Chris Bosh sniper gif*

Is a flop.

[will_spurs]

How long has BSPN-Lakers been running this column?

The worst part is that it is their first "Flop of the Night" column ever, and they chose to pick on a guy who rarely ever flops.

[GSH]

Actually, the Suns caught a break. They could have awarded free throws.

(12) Section 1
a. A player shall not hold, push, charge into, impede the progress of an oppo-nent by extending a hand, forearm, leg or knee or by bending the body into a posi-tion that is not normal. Contact that results in the re-routing of an opponent is a foul which must be called immediately.

Exceptions:
(7) [B]two free throw attempts if the personal foul is for illegal contact with an elbow. The elbow foul may be assessed whether the ball is dead or alive. Free throw attempts are awarded whether the ball is dead, alive, loose or away-from-the-play in the last two minutes of regulation or overtime(s). Contact must occur for an elbow foul to be assessed. It is an unsports-manlike act whether or not there is contact. (See Rule 12A--Section VII-- d(6) for non-contact.) If the deliberate elbow contact is above shoulder level, the player will be ejected. If the elbow contact is shoulder level or below, the player may be ejected at the discretion of the official. In all of these situations, the official has the discretion of assessing a flagrant foul (1) or (2)

[Obstructed_View]

Tony Parker goes to the floor about 30 times a game, and it's not like this particular time wasn't after he got hit. Next time you see someone running full-out, put your arm out and see what happens when they run into it.

[Fabbs]

Actually, the Suns caught a break. They could have awarded free throws.

(12) Section 1
a. A player shall not hold, push, charge into, impede the progress of an oppo-nent by extending a hand, forearm, leg or knee or by bending the body into a posi-tion that is not normal. Contact that results in the re-routing of an opponent is a foul which must be called immediately.

Exceptions:
(7) [B]two free throw attempts if the personal foul is for illegal contact with an elbow. The elbow foul may be assessed whether the ball is dead or alive. Free throw attempts are awarded whether the ball is dead, alive, loose or away-from-the-play in the last two minutes of regulation or overtime(s). Contact must occur for an elbow foul to be assessed. It is an unsports-manlike act whether or not there is contact. (See Rule 12A--Section VII-- d(6) for non-contact.) If the deliberate elbow contact is above shoulder level, the player will be ejected. If the elbow contact is shoulder level or below, the player may be ejected at the discretion of the official. In all of these situations, the official has the discretion of assessing a flagrant foul (1) or (2)
nicely done

[Aztecfan03]

Actually, the Suns caught a break. They could have awarded free throws.

(12) Section 1
a. A player shall not hold, push, charge into, impede the progress of an oppo-nent by extending a hand, forearm, leg or knee or by bending the body into a posi-tion that is not normal. Contact that results in the re-routing of an opponent is a foul which must be called immediately.

Exceptions:
(7) [B]two free throw attempts if the personal foul is for illegal contact with an elbow. The elbow foul may be assessed whether the ball is dead or alive. Free throw attempts are awarded whether the ball is dead, alive, loose or away-from-the-play in the last two minutes of regulation or overtime(s). Contact must occur for an elbow foul to be assessed. It is an unsports-manlike act whether or not there is contact. (See Rule 12A--Section VII-- d(6) for non-contact.) If the deliberate elbow contact is above shoulder level, the player will be ejected. If the elbow contact is shoulder level or below, the player may be ejected at the discretion of the official. In all of these situations, the official has the discretion of assessing a flagrant foul (1) or (2)

the second one is more about jabbing someone with your elbow i think.

[Aztecfan03]

LOL at Dudley complaining. Who can forget this Nash flop?

"owwww, my head!" ...please.

1pBeCQak588

dirty and not a flop.

[TampaDude]

dirty (but smart) and sealed the :lobt2: for the 2007 Spurs.

fify :lol

[Nathan89]

Uh, that was an obvious foul. You can't stick your arm out to slow down a playing coming around a screen. Parker added some theater after getting hit but the ref makes that call either way.

The ref Should make that call either way. There is a reason players throw theater in even when there is a actual foul.

[Splits]

About 95% of the non-troll commenters on that post are in the "no flop" camp.

[Chase_the_Bass]

dirty and not a flop.

Nash admitted that he embellished the contact quite a bit.

[GSH]

the second one is more about jabbing someone with your elbow i think.

You're right. They usually don't call that on a forearm, as long as it's in front of the body. But I've seen it called when it's out to the side. Dudley was pretty close.

Look at the video, around the 4 second mark. Parker is completely out of bounds when Dudley hits him. It's sort of hard to do that without reaching out with the elbow. Not making a bid deal out of it, just that it's stupid to act like it wasn't a foul.

[Cry Havoc]

"Parker sprints around a screen along the left baseline and makes the mildest of contact with Jared Dudley's arm."

What a douchebag. You can tell he's never played basketball a day in his life if he thinks you can go sprinting into a 7'er with an arm extended and have "the mildest of contacts". Regardless of how Parker sold it, that was a pretty obvious foul and probably would have knocked a lot of players off their feet, or close to it. Ever been running full speed and hit a tiny little patch of dirt, or a curb, or a stick? Contact at high speeds is going to look exaggerated, and I would have guessed that someone who's writing for a well-known hoops blog would have the freshmen level physical science education necessary to see that.

What a piece of shit article.

[Cane]

Parker was a runner up on their all-flopping team. Hell, Henry Abbott still bitches about the defensive-minded championship Spurs and how he thinks the NBA rules should change so those teams wouldn't be anywhere near as successful....

:lol @ ESPN...tbh its probably the media's revenge since the Spurs don't care much for sportswriters and talking heads

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