Wrestlemania 28

[Darth_Pelican]

This Sunday.

Predictions in red. LOL Wrestling

John Cena vs. The Rock
Not that I want Cena to win, but the WWE doesn't benefit much by letting Cena lose here. Pulling for the Rock but predicting Cena.

Hell in a Cell Match:
-The Undertaker vs. Triple H. Shawn Michaels will serve as the special guest referee of the match.
20-0... Taker isn't losing here. HBK may screw HHH over and come out of retirement to set up a feud with HHH. Maybe not, but either way, Taker wins.

WWE Championship Match:
-CM Punk (c) vs. Chris Jericho
Jericho wins and the feud continues into the summer, with CM Punk winning the title back at Summerslam

WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match:
-Daniel Bryan (c) vs. Sheamus wins by DQ (Bryan Retains title)
The Royal Rumble winner usually wins at mania. But Bryan will retain title and the feud continues.

WWE Intercontinental Title Match:
-Cody Rhodes (c) vs. Big Show
No reason to put the IC Title around Big Show's waist at this point. Rhodes continues to build as a top heel.

-Randy Orton vs. Kane
Kane continues to be a PPV jobber.

12 Man Tag Team Match For Control of Raw and Smackdown:
-Team Laurinaitis vs Team Long
Team Laurinaitis: David Otunga (Captain), Mark Henry, Dolph Ziggler, Jack Swagger, Drew McIntyre & The Miz
Team Long: Santino Marella (Captain), R-Truth, Zack Ryder, The Great Khali, Kofi Kingston & Booker T
Teddy Long should never be chosen to run Raw

Divas Tag Team Match:
-Kelly Kelly and Maria Menounos vs. Beth Phoenix and Eve Torres
Who gives a fuck...

[mavs>spurs]

who watches this shit anymore

[Rip-Hamilton32]

neither the rock or cena will win someone will come to the ring and the 2 will clean house and then make love afterwards so they don't upset all the grown ass rednecks who watch that shit

[z0sa]

:lol tens of millions still watching this garbage

[Gutter92]

^Darth Hornet

I stopped watching when I was in 6th grade cause my creepy ass teacher kept asking me to record that shit for him cause he didnt have cable :lol

[DesignatedT]

wrestling is fake bro

[RaZon]

who watches this shit anymore

You gotta be kidding:rolleyes You might wanna do a little research.....trust me!

The Rock is too busy in Hollywood to hang around. Cena not as busy in Hollywood, he wins it.

The Undertaker is about done as a rassler, he'll go out a winner. Yes Michaels will fuck over Triple H.

Not sure how long Jericho will be around, Punk appears to be a full time rassler, he wins it.

Why is Randy Orton getting this disrespected? Kane?????? If there is a stone cold lock....there it is!

Fuck the rest.

[Darth_Pelican]

:lol Figured I'd get laughed at for making this thread. Fuck it. ST is good people regardless.

[RaZon]

wrestling is fake bro

So are movies. You have to play along. Who watches a movie and..."those are not real bullets!"

[Chachachango]

Lol, wwe

[mavs>spurs]

You gotta be kidding:rolleyes You might wanna do a little research.....trust me!

The Rock is too busy in Hollywood to hang around. Cena not as busy in Hollywood, he wins it.

The Undertaker is about done as a rassler, he'll go out a winner. Yes Michaels will fuck over Triple H.

Not sure how long Jericho will be around, Punk appears to be a full time rassler, he wins it.

Why is Randy Orton getting this disrespected? Kane?????? If there is a stone cold lock....there it is!

Fuck the rest.

all those guys are no talent hacks except the rock

[RaZon]

all those guys are no talent hacks except the rock

So what constitutes talent in pro rassln' ? Trust me it's not actual wrestling ability. Is all about selling your character. Having a rap is more meaningful than athletic skills. If you have both like a Shawn Michaels...cool! Chris Jericho is actually the most...talented...rassler on the card. He is similiar to Shawn Michaels in that he has that rap and athletic skills.

[mavs>spurs]

none of those guys have an interesting character at all nor can they wrestle. wrestling sucks

[jeebus]

last time I watched any sort of wrestling was when the nwo was doing their schtick.

[RaZon]

none of those guys have an interesting character at all nor can they wrestle. wrestling sucks

Let's see if I'm getting it...

Wrestling sucks.......but you know about the characters/rasslin' skills...hmmmm?

[mavs>spurs]

tuned in a couple times over the years for a couple minutes at a time but its just too painful to watch..wrestling died in about 01 or 02. you got randy orton calling himself a snake and slithering around the ring like a weirdo and some rapper wigger faggot at the face of the company, just awful. i can't see anyone older than 10 liking that shit.

[RaZon]

tuned in a couple times over the years for a couple minutes at a time but its just too painful to watch..wrestling died in about 01 or 02. you got randy orton calling himself a snake and slithering around the ring like a weirdo and some rapper wigger faggot at the face of the company, just awful. i can't see anyone older than 10 liking that shit.

It's the lack of talent in the business right now and the fact that McMahon has lost his fucking mind. I agree it's at an all time low. This will be the worst Wrestlemania ever. A step below last years which was the then.......................

[shyne]

When stone cold retired I was done, he was the goat. Him and the rock were entertaining as fuck. The product and personalities are shit now.

[mavs>spurs]

they need to bring back tv-14 and bring in new talent with entertaining gimmicks..shit might go out of business if not tbh

[DesignatedT]

wwe has never been good.

now the wwf... well that's a different story.

[I. Hustle]

Lol mma

Oh wait

[I. Hustle]

Burp

[BRHornet45]

sons the only thing good to come out of wrestling is the women. see my sig

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol The only 2 matches I care about are HHH/Taker and Rock/Cena, tbh. If they would ever bring back the TV-14 Attitude era, then maybe more older crowds will watch it more consistently.

[TE]

tbh, this "industry" has fallen greatly since 01-02. After the "Alliance" angle that was suppose to be like the apex of wrestling (WWF vs WCW/ECW), the WWE just completely failed to duplicate anything remotely entertaining after those days. I tune in every now and then, but it's total shit. The Rock's appearance over the last couple of weeks have been entertaining and a huge wave of nostalgia hits me hard, but damn, this shows desperately is in need of actual talent that keeps the older crowd entertained (and not as in wrestling talent).

[TheProfessor]

May be some interesting surprises on the show - Batista is rumored to appear and Brock Lesnar has been negotiating with WWE. Won't make it worth the money, regardless.

[benefactor]

I see the commercials for some of this stuff and I just shake my head. In the words of B.B. King..."the thrill is gone."

What others have said is dead on...it's basically been shit since the early 2000's. It will never be able to duplicate the glory of the mid-late 90's when WCW was battling with the NWO/Wolfpack/Outsiders and WWF had Austin and the early years of The Rock.

[ohmwrecker]

This thread is teh ghey.

[jeebus]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1qr6azt6R1qb5gkjo1_500.jpg

[TE]

I'll probably tune in to watch since I'll be craving a buffalo wild wing dinner on a Sunday night. I haven't watched any of the Monday shows for a couple of months now, hopefully it'll be a little entertaining.

[RaZon]

McMahon fucked everything up. Before he totally took over...

AWA..midwest
WCW...south
CWA...Memphis
WCCW...Texas
WWWF...northeast
Mid-South...Texas/Missouri/Oklahoma

Each regions having their champions and stable of rasslers. These guys moving from one territory to another....interesting.

[Landon Donofag]

:lmao fucking rednecks

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Crofl crofl crofl, brazzers

[RaZon]

If we took longevity at the top, titles won and impact on the sport as our criteria this would be the top 10 rasslers of all time in my opinion.

Impact being the most important. Actual wrestling ability means nothing.

1.Lou Thesz
2.Hulk Hogan
3.Gorgeous George
4.Bruno Sammartino
6."Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers
7."Nature Boy" Ric Flair
8.Verne Gagne
9.Fred Blassie
10.Killer Kowalski

Since Hulk Hogan

1.Hulk Hogan
2."Nature Boy" Ric Flair
3.Stonecold Steve Austin
4.Andre the Giant
5.Dusty Rhodes
6.Randy "Macho Man" Savage
7.Jerry "The King" Lawler
8.The Rock
9.Triple H
10.Shawn Michaels

[VBM]

WWE is my Naruto. Not ashamed to admit it.

[Darth_Pelican]

http://3.sescoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/wrestlemania-set.jpg

[slick'81]

allready ordered it on the 55 inch, bunch of homies and thier wifes coming time to get drunk

BOOTS2ASSES

[mavs>spurs]

If we took longevity at the top, titles won and impact on the sport as our criteria this would be the top 10 rasslers of all time in my opinion.

Impact being the most important. Actual wrestling ability means nothing.

1.Lou Thesz
2.Hulk Hogan
3.Gorgeous George
4.Bruno Sammartino
6."Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers
7."Nature Boy" Ric Flair
8.Verne Gagne
9.Fred Blassie
10.Killer Kowalski

Since Hulk Hogan

1.Hulk Hogan
2."Nature Boy" Ric Flair
3.Stonecold Steve Austin
4.Andre the Giant
5.Dusty Rhodes
6.Randy "Macho Man" Savage
7.Jerry "The King" Lawler
8.The Rock
9.Triple H
10.Shawn Michaels

your lists always suck

[TE]

Fuck eating out, I just ordered too. Gonna BBQ, have a shit load of beer, and treat this like a Cowboy game :lol

[Girasuck]

Ordered it and currently watching the pre-show on wwe.com. Tag team championship match coming up soon.

[VBM]

What's the order of matches? Anyone have a TV guide? :lol

Bet it's Orton/Kane or Bryan/Sheamus. HHH/Taker and Cena/Rock will close the show in that order

[VBM]

Ordered it and currently watching the pre-show on wwe.com. Tag team championship match coming up soon.

What time is that match?

[Girasuck]

What time is that match?

They're airing the Cena/Rock documentary right now so it won't be on till after that. Probably in 30-40 minutes.

[8FOR!3]

I mean I'm watching it for nostalgic purposes. It's not like I watch wrestling anymore, but The Rock vs. John Cena is big. Even my mom and grandma are watching this with me and a few friends and this is the first time I've seen any of them watch wrestling.

And I remember Bryan Danielson was the shit 10 years ago.

[Darth_Pelican]

Friends & I just ordered it. I heard that WWE spent over 2 million dollars for fireworks and pyro entrances.

[Woo Bum-kon]

I can't wait for Owen Hart's big comeback. :hungry::hungry::hungry:

[Muser]

:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

wow thats a really bad sign for the show tonight

[Girasuck]

Daniel Bryan must be injured. Otherwise that made no sense at all.

[Muser]

People pay for your product and you give them that? Jesus christ.

[Trainwreck2100]

Daniel Bryan must be injured. Otherwise that made no sense at all.

it probably made sense to vince

[VBM]

So it took a few minutes for my cable box to kick on the ppv...wtf I missed a match already...lol

[Trainwreck2100]

So it took a few minutes for my cable box to kick on the ppv...wtf I missed a match already...lol

bryan got burried in 18 seconds

[Trainwreck2100]

http://i39.tinypic.com/34gkhg4.jpg
heres the match you missed

[VBM]

http://i39.tinypic.com/34gkhg4.jpg
heres the match you missed

WTF :lmao :ihit

[VBM]

Boom

[Muser]

Wow the PPV jobber actually got a win.

[Darth_Pelican]

Good for Kane. Thanks Vince. Orton is so stale.

[Muser]

Ron Simmons makes even the shittiest sketches funny.

[Trainwreck2100]

payback for all the bumps kane had to take against cena in the EC match

[Girasuck]

Kane/Orton match was good.

[VBM]

haha..another daniel bryan chant?

[Darth_Pelican]

My picks are all wrong so far lol

[Muser]

$75 for a chair? Jesus christ.

Women are on, time to go get some food then.

[Muser]

Also am I the only one who thinks Beth Phoenix looks like a more butch Veronica Corningstone from Anchorman?

[VBM]

Praying for a Kharma cameo

[VBM]

Way too early for this match

[Trainwreck2100]

theres only like 4 matches left for three hours

[Trainwreck2100]

if you're wondering why based jr is there its cause its in UTs contract he calls all his WM matches

[VBM]

Taker going skinhead on em

[Muser]

Now this is some good shit :tu

[VBM]

I'll quit watching wrestling when Taker retires

[TDMVPDPOY]

sean michaels with the bad acting lol

[VBM]

These weren't classics like the HBK ones, but solid battles nonetheless

[Muser]

Was that 'takers last match or something?

[VBM]

Was that 'takers last match or something?

Heard rumors it is, also heard rumors he's got a couple more years left. 20-0 is a nice clean number though.

[Muser]

Damn I miss Edge. That guy was one of my idols growing up.

[DesignatedT]

So who won the matches?

[TDMVPDPOY]

that taker match, hhh spent to much time talkin shit with sean michaels, shouldve gone on with the job

[VBM]

that taker match, hhh spent to much time talkin shit with sean michaels, shouldve gone on with the job

Yeah...that was kinda bogus

[Muser]

lol following up that match with fucking flo rida.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i already tune out, cbf watchin rock vs teletubbie

[TDMVPDPOY]

Yeah...that was kinda bogus

takers last 3 wm matches were fkn shit, not up to standard with his previous 17 matches....

[VBM]

takers last 3 wm matches were fkn shit, not up to standard with his previous 17 matches....

I thought HBK - Taker 2 was still solid, but the HHH matches were def. slower

[TE]

Any affiliation that Santino Marella has with the WWE is just purely pathetic. Who the fuck would hire someone like that to try to sell a product? smh

[Spursfan092120]

Heard rumors it is, also heard rumors he's got a couple more years left. 20-0 is a nice clean number though.

Taker's streak will end before he retires. He's going to put over a young guy and then retire. He's got at least one more in him.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Any affiliation that Santino Marella has with the WWE is just purely pathetic. Who the fuck would hire someone like that to try to sell a product? smh

lol@italy is all u need to know about that kent

[Trainwreck2100]

Taker's streak will end before he retires. He's going to put over a young guy and then retire. He's got at least one more in him.

he doesn't have to lose to put a guy over

[Spursfan092120]

he doesn't have to lose to put a guy over

No..he doesn't..but it will be the ultimate put over to end Taker's streak...then he retires...he's all about the business.

[Girasuck]

Taker's streak will end before he retires. He's going to put over a young guy and then retire. He's got at least one more in him.

I agree with you. WWE would be stupid to not have Taker lose to someone. The problem is there's really no one right now that's big enough to use the torch passing. Maybe The Miz.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Taker's streak will end before he retires. He's going to put over a young guy and then retire. He's got at least one more in him.

no one atm is worth being putting over atm, whatever is on the roster...unless its cena...but that clown has been in the comp for 10yrs and whats his record for WM?

unless brock lesnar comes back

[Muser]

wtf this guy sounds like batman.

[Spursfan092120]

I agree with you. WWE would be stupid to not have Taker lose to someone. The problem is there's really no one right now that's big enough to use the torch passing. Maybe The Miz.

Meh..I think the Miz being on top is done. I could see someone like Swagger. Maybe even Ziggler.

[Spursfan092120]

no one atm is worth being putting over atm, whatever is on the roster...unless its cena...but that clown has been in the comp for 10yrs and whats his record for WM?

unless brock lesnar comes back

Rumor is Brock signed a 1 year contract with WWE today. He's at WM right now. May or may not make an appearance. But he won't be at every event...he'll have a more limited schedule than the rest. They won't put the strap on him, unless he agrees to wrestle more....that is, if the rumor is true.

http://rajah.com/base/node/26762

[TDMVPDPOY]

Meh..I think the Miz being on top is done. I could see someone like Swagger. Maybe even Ziggler.

those 3 idiots are not worth to get the push,....

how about cmpunk?

[mavs>spurs]

the problem is...when you only have a handful of talented guys, there is no one to make them better and "put them over" so to speak. where they went wrong was not bringing in new talent back when hbk, undertaker, etc were at their peak and having those guys put the young talent over. it adds legitimacy to a character if they beat an all time great. the overall lack of talent brings down everyone even the decent ones like cm punk for instance who really have no one to feud with.

[VBM]

I'd actually like it to be Kane if anyone did beat him.

[Muser]

Who the fuck are these faggots

[Girasuck]

She's flatter than a board.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the problem is...when you only have a handful of talented guys, there is no one to make them better and "put them over" so to speak. where they went wrong was not bringing in new talent back when hbk, undertaker, etc were at their peak and having those guys put the young talent over. it adds legitimacy to a character if they beat an all time great. the overall lack of talent brings down everyone even the decent ones like cm punk for instance who really have no one to feud with.

they spent so much time building up cena who most of the attitude era fans hate...

orton like cena continues to win stupid matches against scrubs.....

whats disappointing is when they took over WCW, they shouldve milked it with many good wrestlers and storylines instead of burying the hatchet so quick...

[mavs>spurs]

to be honest i really don't even give a shit about undertaker/hhh anymore, it's all gone stale. they need talent and storylines desperately. why was wrestling talent so much more readily available back then? its like everyone was training to be a wrestler and only the best got in, now anyone can do it.

[Trainwreck2100]

they spent so much time building up cena who most of the attitude era fans hate...

orton like cena continues to win stupid matches against scrubs.....

whats disappointing is when they took over WCW, they shouldve milked it with many good wrestlers and storylines instead of burying the hatchet so quick...

they rushed the invasion stroyline all the good wcw wretlers stayed home and earned money from time warner while sitting on their ass

[VBM]

Boom!!!!

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol cena the scrub

[Darth_Pelican]

Fuck you Cena. Haha

[Girasuck]

Poor Cena.

[Girasuck]

Overall WM was just ok for me. CM Punk/Jericho was a great match. Taker/HHH was ok, as well as Kane/Orton.

I'd give it 7 out of 10 overall.

[VBM]

Overall WM was just ok for me. CM Punk/Jericho was a great match. Taker/HHH was ok, as well as Kane/Orton.

I'd give it 7 out of 10 overall.

I think the Taker match stole some of the thunder from Punk/Jericho. I'll give it 8/10 simply for the Kane victory...didn't see that coming at all

[TE]

Yeah I'd give it an 8/10. Really surprised with the results of a lot of the matches. Was really happy with Rock winning although I don't find a reason why him winning would benefit the WWE. With the exception of the big tag team match, diva match, and the first match between sheamus and that little midget, the rest of the show did not disappoint.

I thought Lesnar was going to make an appearance, and that kind of disappointed me.


..................

LOL Cena

[VBM]

http://tribalwrestling.com/wp-content/uploads/John-Cena-vs-The-Rock-2011.jpg

[8FOR!3]

lol at Cena eating shit for trying The People's Elbow. That made the show.

[Spursfan092120]

those 3 idiots are not worth to get the push,....

how about cmpunk?

Punk is already on top. Not sure you understand what a push is. It's a guy who's not on top who has something big happen to him to PUT him on top. Ziggler and Swagger have the abilities..I could see it happening.

[Spursfan092120]

Rock was rusty as hell...and out of shape. He didn't deserve to be put over. Cena owned and ran that whole match and Rock got the win. Guess it proves Cena's all about the business.

[Spursfan092120]

Yeah I'd give it an 8/10. Really surprised with the results of a lot of the matches. Was really happy with Rock winning although I don't find a reason why him winning would benefit the WWE. With the exception of the big tag team match, diva match, and the first match between sheamus and that little midget, the rest of the show did not disappoint.

I thought Lesnar was going to make an appearance, and that kind of disappointed me.


..................

LOL Cena

Lot of talk that he'll be there on Raw tomorrow night. Don't quote me on it..just sayin.

[Spursfan092120]

they spent so much time building up cena who most of the attitude era fans hate...

orton like cena continues to win stupid matches against scrubs.....


Not sure why so many people hate Cena. It's not like he's winning more than anyone else. His record is the same as any regular superstar. Think about it..two straight Main Events at WM...two straight defeats.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Did Maria menounous' titty Pop out?

[BruceBowenFan]

Did Maria menounous' titty Pop out?

Nope but she did have like a skid mark on her ass for the majority of the match.

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol Cena needs to go back to his original ways. This you can't see me bullshit is lame as hell. I was glad he lost. This saluting the soldiers, being a kids type of fan bullshit is sickening to watch. The Cena that first game into wrestling is the one that needs to return.

I actually watched the entire event. It was pretty solid, but not enough to get me watching again. It needs to be tv-14 and have much better overall storylines. Back then (attitude era) the world title would change hands on raw. How about bringing hardcore matches back? You know where they would go all over the arena and use anything they can as a weapon. It is sad how shitty WWE has gotten.

[TIMMYtoZO]

Not sure why so many people hate Cena. It's not like he's winning more than anyone else. His record is the same as any regular superstar. Think about it..two straight Main Events at WM...two straight defeats.

Because his current schtick is awful. The thug version of him was actually pretty good and it had direction. Then they had to make it a shitty kids version.

[Spursfan092120]

:lol Cena needs to go back to his original ways.
He can't...that was TV-14 days, which they won't go back to, because their biggest fans are kids.

It needs to be tv-14 and have much better overall storylines.
See answer 1

How about bringing hardcore matches back?
That was TV-14...they can't even do chairshots to the head anymore.

[Spursfan092120]

Because his current schtick is awful. The thug version of him was actually pretty good and it had direction. Then they had to make it a shitty kids version.

Yeah..really hard to like that whole "I have respect for the military, appreciate the fans, love this business and work my ass off to be the best" schtick...


















:rolleyes

[mavs>spurs]

john cena is the most boring no talent superstar in WWE history

[TIMMYtoZO]

Yeah..really hard to like that whole "I have respect for the military, appreciate the fans, love this business and work my ass off to be the best" schtick...













:rolleyes



:lol Exactly! It is lame and boring.

[TIMMYtoZO]

He can't...that was TV-14 days, which they won't go back to, because their biggest fans are kids.

See answer 1

That was TV-14...they can't even do chairshots to the head anymore.

And that is why the WWE is shit. They didn't give a fuck about the kids in 1998 and ratings were higher than ever.

[Spursfan092120]

And that is why the WWE is shit. They didn't give a fuck about the kids in 1998 and ratings were higher than ever.

Here's a shocker...just like the NBA, NFL, MLB, and everything else, the WWE is all about the money, and they're going to sell more merchandise by selling to the kids.

[TIMMYtoZO]

Here's a shocker...just like the NBA, NFL, MLB, and everything else, the WWE is all about the money, and they're going to sell more merchandise by selling to the kids.

WGAF about the kids in 1998? They were doing all of that in a tv-14 era and it was much much much more profitable than the shit they have going on now. :lol

[Spursfan092120]

john cena is the most boring no talent superstar in WWE history

lol thinking Cena is not talented. Whether they boo or cheer him, they are emotionally attached to him...therefore he's doing his job. He's one of the most over superstars in history, whether they hate or like him. I watched this WM, and in Miami, the Rock's hometown, there were very few, if any, Rocky chants. It was all "Let's go Cena...Cena Sucks." There were plenty of "Cena" chants, and no "Boots to Asses" chants.

[Trainwreck2100]

Not sure why so many people hate Cena. It's not like he's winning more than anyone else. His record is the same as any regular superstar. Think about it..two straight Main Events at WM...two straight defeats.

cause he epitomizes the pg era and the shit this product has become

[mavs>spurs]

yeah..all the little kids love cena, thats the WWE crowd these days. and the ones who actually know shit absolutely hate him because they can plainly see he sucks.

[Spursfan092120]

WGAF about the kids in 1998? They were doing all of that in a tv-14 era and it was much much much more profitable than the shit they have going on now. :lol

WWE is making more money now than they ever have. Also, with Linda constantly running for political offices, their attitude era programming was hurting her chances. Yeah..it sucks..but it's the way it is. If you don't like it, don't watch it. The only reason I even watch it anymore is because my nephew/Godson comes over and wants me to watch it with him.

[mavs>spurs]

dude can't wrestle for shit and his matches do not entertain me nor does his character. when he comes on i turn the channel.

[Spursfan092120]

yeah..all the little kids love cena, thats the WWE crowd these days. and the ones who actually know shit absolutely hate him because they can plainly see he sucks.

Been watching it for a long time..know a lot about it. Know a lot about the business. I don't see how he "sucks" at all. Yeah..he's had the same gimmick for a long time. So has Kane..so has The Undertaker..so has Randy Orton. Who gives a shit. The problem happened when Cena was so popular that nonconformists decided "hey..they all like him, so I'm going to hate him..." and it grew. Nobody works harder...nobody means more to the business than him right now. Ask everybody in the locker room. They all say Cena is the best, and works the hardest. Even HHH, who has a bigger ego than Vince himself.

[TIMMYtoZO]

WWE is making more money now than they ever have. Also, with Linda constantly running for political offices, their attitude era programming was hurting her chances. Yeah..it sucks..but it's the way it is. If you don't like it, don't watch it. The only reason I even watch it anymore is because my nephew/Godson comes over and wants me to watch it with him.

:lmao:lmao Nice coverup. You actually think Cena's schtick is good.

[Spursfan092120]

dude can't wrestle for shit and his matches do not entertain me nor does his character. when he comes on i turn the channel.

So did you hate Stone Cold too? He couldn't wrestle either. Hulk Hogan? No wrestling talent at all. There's a reason it's called Sports Entertainment now. Most people don't even like it when there's actual "wrestling" going on. The brawling and fighting is what's popular now.

[Spursfan092120]

:lmao:lmao Nice coverup. You actually think Cena's schtick is good.

Never said I thought it was good. Said it worked. And it does, obviously. Nobody is more over than him. I prefer the hip hop persona also...but Cena was a midcarder with that persona. With this one, he's a main eventer. If he went back to it, he would still be on top, but they won't go back to that, because they can't.

[Trainwreck2100]

So did you hate Stone Cold too? He couldn't wrestle either. Hulk Hogan? No wrestling talent at all. There's a reason it's called Sports Entertainment now. Most people don't even like it when there's actual "wrestling" going on. The brawling and fighting is what's popular now.

stone cold could wrestle

[lefty]

Lol WWE thread
Lol staged fake shit

[Spursfan092120]

stone cold could wrestle

No...no he couldn't. He was a brawler...and there's nothing wrong with that. Even he said in one of his DVDs that he wasn't a technical wrestler. But few are nowadays. There's very few technically sound wrestlers in the business..and most of them are midcarders. With the exception of Punk and Jericho, technical wrestling just isn't over like it used to be.

[Spursfan092120]

Lol staged fake shit

Congratulations..you figured out the obvious..so proud of you.

[russellgoat]

Cena 1 five stars match

rock "the idol of adults who acts like kids" 0 five stars match

[Spursfan092120]

Cena 1 five stars match

rock "the idol of adults who acts like kids" 0 five stars match

explain? This confuses me.

[russellgoat]

lol @ people thinking that the undertaker will lose at wrestlemania.I would love that, but his fanbase is one of the craziest fanbases I've ever seen. They will do something crazy if that happened.

[Spursfan092120]

lol @ people thinking that the undertaker will lose at wrestlemania.I would love that, but his fanbase is one of the craziest fanbases I've ever seen. They will do something crazy if that happened.

He will not retire undefeated at WM. He will put someone over and let them beat him in his final match. Undertaker has been around and in this business for too long. It's part of the unwritten rules. You put someone over on your way out, unless it's due to injury, and you don't have a choice.

[Spursfan092120]

who won the sheamus/bryan and jericho/punk? I only watched two fights

Sheamus beat Bryan...immediately. Bryan gave AJ his "good luck kiss," turned around, and got a Brogue kick. Match over. Punk beat jericho via an Anaconda Vise. Best match of the night.

[russellgoat]

explain? This confuses me.

Dave Meltzer, the most respected wrestling analyst in the world gave the cena vs punk match 5 stars. There are just 63 five stars matches since 1983. Do you think cena is not at least a decent wrestler if meltzer gave him that honor?

[Spursfan092120]

Dave Meltzer, the most respected wrestling analyst in the world gave the cena vs punk match 5 stars. There are just 63 five stars matches since 1983. Do you think cena is not at least a decent wrestler if meltzer gave him that honor?

Yes..I do think Cena is a decent wrestler..I said that earlier, if you noticed. I just honestly didn't understand what you were saying.

[mavs>spurs]

So did you hate Stone Cold too? He couldn't wrestle either. Hulk Hogan? No wrestling talent at all. There's a reason it's called Sports Entertainment now. Most people don't even like it when there's actual "wrestling" going on. The brawling and fighting is what's popular now.

Um, NO. Stone Cold was a great technical wrestler before the injury. Sorry but all of the all time most entertaining matches were by guys who could actually wrestle, put on a great show, and make it all look REAL and believable. Guys with wrestling talent AND charisma like shawn michaels, razor, stone cold, the rock. Cena sucks in comparison, sorry if your little nephew likes him thats cool he's young.

[Spursfan092120]

Um, NO. Stone Cold was a great technical wrestler before the injury. Sorry but all of the all time most entertaining matches were by guys who could actually wrestle, put on a great show, and make it all look REAL and believable. Guys with wrestling talent AND charisma like shawn michaels, razor, stone cold, the rock. Cena sucks in comparison, sorry if your little nephew likes him thats cool he's young.

:lmao thinking Scott Hall was a good technical wrestler. Stone Cold was a brawler..not a technical wrestler. It is a style, look it up. Just like Cena is. Just like Hogan was. Some of the greatest Sports Entertainers of all time couldn't wrestle worth a shit. It's cool if you like them and all, and tbh, Austin is my favorite of all time. But even I know that he wasn't a technical wrestler. His most known moves were the Lou Thesz press, which led to sitting on top of someone and punching them, along with stomping a mudhole. He also used his back elbow off the ropes, a leapfrog body guillotine, and an elbow drop. The only real wrestling move he used was his spinebuster. The Stunner was a modified version of the Ace Crusher by Johnny Ace (John Laurinitis), and isn't a technical move, either.

[mavs>spurs]

scott hall's ladder matches with shawn michaels were better and more creative than anything cena has ever done, case closed.

[Girasuck]

scott hall's ladder matches with shawn michaels were better and more creative than anything cena has ever done, case closed.

That's because Shawn Michaels carried that match. Scott Hall should never be remembered as a technical wrestler.

[Ditty]

Just got back from the arena had a great time, thank god the Rock won didn't have to hear bullshit from my friends.

[spyder]

Just have to say wow..way more entertaining than last years wrestlemania..wish triple h won but glad Rock won..Cena blows!!!

[spyder]

WWE is making more money now than they ever have. Also, with Linda constantly running for political offices, their attitude era programming was hurting her chances. Yeah..it sucks..but it's the way it is. If you don't like it, don't watch it. The only reason I even watch it anymore is because my nephew/Godson comes over and wants me to watch it with him.

So true..my nephew loves it..I was a big wrestling fan back in the days watching the VonNerics and fabulous free birds..after stone cold and Rock left I stopped watchn it

[mavs>spurs]

That's because Shawn Michaels carried that match. Scott Hall should never be remembered as a technical wrestler.

not really a technical wrestler no but still more diverse with his skillset and entertaining than anything you see in the business today

[Spursfan092120]

not really a technical wrestler no but still more diverse with his skillset and entertaining than anything you see in the business today

Wrong...if you truly think Scott Hall has a better skillset than CM Punk or Daniel Bryan, you're insane. Hall was a brawler too, and did more taunting than actual wrestling. Cena is a brawler as well, but as I said before, you don't have to be a talented "wrestler" to be the best in the business. That's why they call is Sports Entertainment...not wrestling.

[shyne]

Speaking of Scott hall I saw that espn 60 special on him today, he's in pretty bad shape could hardly recognize him. I hope he turns his life around he was one of my all time favs.

[Spursfan092120]

Speaking of Scott hall I saw that espn 60 special on him today, he's in pretty bad shape could hardly recognize him. I hope he turns his life around he was one of my all time favs.

Razor was one of my favorites too..could really get the crowd into it. Even after he left, even up to a year or two ago, Vince paid for all of his alcohol and drug rehab. Him and Matt Hardy. He's said many times he owes his life to Vince. Too bad he can't stay clean. Even if he never wrestles again, it'd be good to see him get his life in order.

[shyne]

Razor was one of my favorites too..could really get the crowd into it. Even after he left, even up to a year or two ago, Vince paid for all of his alcohol and drug rehab. Him and Matt Hardy. He's said many times he owes his life to Vince. Too bad he can't stay clean. Even if he never wrestles again, it'd be good to see him get his life in order.

I never knew he killed some guy in a fight.

[Spursfan092120]

Supposedly some of the guys in the locker room and the legends are upset that The Rock didn't go the the Hall of Fame induction. For someone who says the business and it's history means SO MUCH to him, you'd think he would show up at the HOF ceremony when he was in town.

[Spursfan092120]

I never knew he killed some guy in a fight.

Yup..and he got off easy. Killed a guy with his own gun after he got it away from him. Charges were dropped though from lack of evidence. He admitted to killing him though in the ESPN doc.

[Stringer_Bell]

I never knew he killed some guy in a fight.

ESPN did a great story on him last year, they still show it occassionally...all the sad details including how he was helping his son come up in the ranks only to quit on him and go back to making bad decisions.

I wanted Brock and Batista to make a return during the Cena/Rock fight and set the stage for Summerslam.

[Spursfan092120]

ESPN did a great story on him last year, they still show it occassionally...all the sad details including how he was helping his son come up in the ranks only to quit on him and go back to making bad decisions.

I wanted Brock and Batista to make a return during the Cena/Rock fight and set the stage for Summerslam.

Brock might be there tonight..not sure about Batista...they did pick him up after his event in Miami to talk business, but nothing's come out about it yet.

[Spursfan092120]

Dolph Ziggler and B.A. Billy Gunn
Shit..they could be father and son or twins..

http://i.imgur.com/IlV5F.jpg

[Darth_Pelican]

Anyone else just watch Edge's HOF speech? It sucks that he had to retire so young.

[lefty]

Congratulations..you figured out the obvious..so proud of you.

Lol debating about fake fights

[Spursfan092120]

Anyone else just watch Edge's HOF speech? It sucks that he had to retire so young.

Yeah..he wanted to fight Christian at this year's WM...really sucks. But when a doctor tells you if you do this anymore, you'll be paralyzed, you listen.

[Spursfan092120]

Lol debating about fake fights

lol posting more than once in a thread that you supposedly care nothing about.

[VBM]

http://cdn.stereogum.com/files/2011/12/Brock-Lesnar.jpg

[shyne]

Brock vs. rock?

[VBM]

Brock vs. rock?

Cena's got his new opponent, it seems

[TE]

Brock looks like a fucking gladiator, damn.

[Darth_Pelican]

Brock Lesnar returns and Cena gets shit on again :lmao . That was the hottest Raw crowd in a very long time.

[shyne]

I hate Brock, UFC or wwe he's a bitch.

[Spursfan092120]

Brock didn't jump onto the apron...wonder if he's got some training to do...lol. Seriously though, he's a little smaller than he was when he was in the WWE before, but it was good to have him back. Hopefully he's gotten better on his promos.

[Spursfan092120]

Brock Lesnar returns and Cena gets shit on again :lmao . That was the hottest Raw crowd in a very long time.

Stupid fucking idiots, to be honest. Those are the same fans who have been SCREAMING for Daniel Bryan to lose..and now when he does, they cheer for him and boo Sheamus, who has been one of the most cheered people in the industry as of late. Completely fickle.

[TE]

It's just become a natural instinct for fans to boo the shit out of Cena no matter how real he seems when trying to be a face.

[Spursfan092120]

It's just become a natural instinct for fans to boo the shit out of Cena no matter how real he seems when trying to be a face.

Yeah..and that kind of sucks, but I think it'll get back to 50/50 once they get out of Miami. That very Pro Rock crowd made it a little worse. It just sucks that society has changed to where the hard worker, positive guy is hated. But it is what it is. Maybe Cena needs to go heel just to be face again, like Rock did. Oh well...either way, it's good to see Lesnar back, and hopefully he'll be able to pick up where he left off. I do wish they would have let Rock come out there and see those two show some mutual respect...it would have helped with the fans and Cena. Almost makes me think Vince WANTS the fans to boo him. If he's supposed to be the industry's top babyface, why would they have Brock, who the fans have been SCREAMING for, come out and go after Cena. It's too obvious.

[Trainwreck2100]

Stupid fucking idiots, to be honest. Those are the same fans who have been SCREAMING for Daniel Bryan to lose..and now when he does, they cheer for him and boo Sheamus, who has been one of the most cheered people in the industry as of late. Completely fickle.

its not that he lost, its how he lost, 18 secs when these are two of the best workers in the company. Seamus's push got fucked over cause vince is an idiot. The only thing that would have made this Raw better is if Bryan got a chance to deliver his own promo. He was super over.

[Darth_Pelican]

Stupid fucking idiots, to be honest. Those are the same fans who have been SCREAMING for Daniel Bryan to lose..and now when he does, they cheer for him and boo Sheamus, who has been one of the most cheered people in the industry as of late. Completely fickle.

Live crowds in big cities cheer heels. It's been the trend for the past few years. It's the "cool" thing to do. WWE doesn't know how to adjust to that and take control back of the crowds. I actually think it's good for wrestling. The days of "babyface" vs. "heel" needs to die. It's not what the crowd wants anymore. The WWE has been so clueless about giving the crowd what they want, hence the John Cena character getting boo'ed. When the face of your company is getting boo'ed out of arenas, and the WWE does nothing to adjust to that, then they are obviously doing something wrong. When ratings are half of what they were 10 years ago, then they are obviously doing something wrong. That doesn't mean that they don't do other things right. The company obviously still makes a ton of money in many different ways. I understand why they switched to TV-PG, but they have yet to find a balance to still attract the old school wrestling crowd. Bringing back the Rock and Lesnar were good steps to try and achieve that. And hopefully they have a plan finally to let Cena get squashed for a while. That's the only way the crowd will get back on his side. Five years of "super Cena" has taken a toll on the fans.

[VBM]

PBD6zx7Uzrs

[Trainwreck2100]

lol he kicked the hat
also we'll never have a crowd like that again :(

[Spursfan092120]

Live crowds in big cities cheer heels. It's been the trend for the past few years. It's the "cool" thing to do. WWE doesn't know how to adjust to that and take control back of the crowds. I actually think it's good for wrestling. The days of "babyface" vs. "heel" needs to die. It's not what the crowd wants anymore. The WWE has been so clueless about giving the crowd what they want, hence the John Cena character getting boo'ed. When the face of your company is getting boo'ed out of arenas, and the WWE does nothing to adjust to that, then they are obviously doing something wrong. When ratings are half of what they were 10 years ago, then they are obviously doing something wrong. That doesn't mean that they don't do other things right. The company obviously still makes a ton of money in many different ways. I understand why they switched to TV-PG, but they have yet to find a balance to still attract the old school wrestling crowd. Bringing back the Rock and Lesnar were good steps to try and achieve that. And hopefully they have a plan finally to let Cena get squashed for a while. That's the only way the crowd will get back on his side. Five years of "super Cena" has taken a toll on the fans.
Couldn't have said it better myself. I think the "Super Cena" thing is a little wrong. Dude has lost as many as anyone else. Last two WM...beaten. But I see what you mean. You just can't have the "heel vs. face" thing until you figure out how to keep up with the times. Like the whole Lord Tensai guy. I just know they're going to shove him in everyone's face as some dominant guy...when...come on, it's fucking Prince Albert. Just like Broadus Clay. Funkosaurus, and all of a sudden a headbutt and a splash can beat the world. The crowd is going with Broadus, but I don't think they're going to believe for a second that Albert is dominant...get ready for the "You're still Albert" chants.

[Trainwreck2100]

http://www.twitvid.com/SMNZN

that pop, lol wwe booking`

[Spursfan092120]

he's been beaten a lot but he's ALWAYS there in the main events...makes the shows boring too. now that brock is back i imagine they'll have him job to cena :vomit:

Meh...we'll have to see. Truth is, Cena's in the Main Event because right now, the business doesn't have enough face main eventers. The crowd turns them all into heels. Cena's still the hardest worker and best performer in the business. He's today's version of The Rock, but the PG version.

[Spursfan092120]

http://www.twitvid.com/SMNZN

that pop, lol wwe booking`

Just don't understand it. All those people booed the shit out of Bryan a couple of days before WM..then, all of a sudden, he loses, and they love him.

[Spursfan092120]

PG sucks

yep

[Trainwreck2100]

Just don't understand it. All those people booed the shit out of Bryan a couple of days before WM..then, all of a sudden, he loses, and they love him.

like i told you earlier, its not that he lost, it's how he lost. People booed him cause he was a heel, but he's too much of a worker to get squashed like that. So the fans recognized he got fucked over by vince's bullshit

[Spursfan092120]

like i told you earlier, its not that he lost, it's how he lost. People booed him cause he was a heel, but he's too much of a worker to get squashed like that. So the fans recognized he got fucked over by vince's bullshit

I can see that...guess I didn't read that when you said it earlier.

[RaZon]

I'm trying my best not to find out the results. Can I make it until Wednesday when a buddy turns me on to his disc? Last time I do it like this. It sucks!

[BlackSwordsMan]

couldn't hack it in mma so he goes back to wwe after trashing it
poor guy

[TDMVPDPOY]

the thing i hate about cena is he always t alks about his dues...fck that shit, nobody gives a shit

[Spursfan092120]

the thing i hate about cena is he always t alks about his dues...fck that shit, nobody gives a shit

Yes they do. Everybody cares about "that shit." I fucking hate when someone gets in there who's never been in the business and just starts on top because of the buzz he has. You have to earn your stripes just like any business. Everyone in the locker room cares about paying your dues, and earning respect.

[TDMVPDPOY]

were the kids booing brock last night?

[Spursfan092120]

were the kids booing brock last night?

Wasn't there..but tbh..I saw some people (adults) in the crowd booing what he did as well. But yeah, I'm sure the kids were booing.

[Trainwreck2100]

were the kids booing brock last night?

since it was the raw after wrestlemania it was loaded with leftover smarks from the night before. Fantastic crowd without the 5 year olds

[BlairForceDejuan]

lol Lesnar is back to "wrestling"? How long before he puts 50lbs of mass back on.

[Spursfan092120]

Daniel Bryan is so over with the crowd. 4:50 min mark and lasts for the entire match.

Sad thing is, no one gave a flying fuck about him until he lost.

[Spursfan092120]

lol Lesnar is back to "wrestling"? How long before he puts 50lbs of mass back on.

not wrestling...sports entertainment. Probably quickly though, to be honest. Although their drug policy is the strictest you'll find.

[RaZon]

your lists always suck

That's because you're too dumb to understand them.

[RaZon]

Finally saw it...

You do not put the Undertaker vs Triple H match on ahead of that ridiculous tag match with all the nobodies that nobody cares about.

The Punk vs Jericho battle, way too predictable.

Rock beating Cena made no sense at all. Now Rock heads back to Movieville and Cena has lost some star power. Stoo-peed move.

All the other matches sucked as did the silly shit. The music was terrible and...why??? I'm convinced now more than ever that either Vince McMahon is totally out of the picture or he has lost his fucking mind. So many dead moments, so many stupid matches.

It should have been...

(obviously they started working these fueds months ago)


Sheamus vs Alberto Del Rio
Wade Barrett vs The Giant
C.M.Punk vs Chris Jericho
Randy Orton vs John Cena
Kane vs The Undertaker
The Rock vs Triple H

Still pretty weak but they just don't have the talent right now.

John Cena having to wait in the ring while some nobody rapper stunk up the place....sheesh!

Worst Wrestlemania ever.

How can you not miss...

Brock Lesnar....yes I know.
Batista
Shawn Michaels
Goldberg
Edge
Stonecold
Ravishing Rick Rude
The Ultimate Warrior
The Macho Man
Bret "The Hitman" Hart
Hulk Hogan
Ric Flair
Rowdy Roddy Piper

Bummed.

Randy Orton vs John Cena before the WWE

nVeih_Gqakc (http://nVeih_Gqakc)

[manufan10]

^ Wade Barrett is out with an injury and so is Alberto del Rio.

[Spursfan092120]

Who's The Giant? You talking about Great Khali? Dude does NOT belong in WM..period. He's just big. Cena and Orton would work, but they're both babyfaces. Cena/Rock was how it was supposed to be. Same with H And Taker. I do think Cena should have won, but if you watched Raw Monday night, you'll know that Rock is hanging around a bit. Said he wants to win the WWE Championship. We'll see if he means it.

[manufan10]

Who's The Giant? You talking about Great Khali? Dude does NOT belong in WM..period. He's just big. Cena and Orton would work, but they're both babyfaces. Cena/Rock was how it was supposed to be. Same with H And Taker. I do think Cena should have won, but if you watched Raw Monday night, you'll know that Rock is hanging around a bit. Said he wants to win the WWE Championship. We'll see if he means it.

I believe he's talking about Big Show. In WCW he was known as The Giant.

[Girasuck]

I do think Cena should have won, but if you watched Raw Monday night, you'll know that Rock is hanging around a bit. Said he wants to win the WWE Championship. We'll see if he means it.

Rock said that one day it will happen. Key being one day. I bet we don't see him around for a while. He had to promise something like that to excuse him from the WWE for a bit. I don't think Rock will be back within the next 2 years. I think in a couple years he'll do what Jericho does and come back a couple months before WM. Maybe win the title at the Royal Rumble, then lose it at WM.

[manufan10]

I thought this was a good article about Wrestlemania weekend on Grantland:





Link (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7769020/jake-snake-roberts-rock-more-wrestlemania-xxviii-weekend-diary)

[VBM]

I believe he's talking about Big Show. In WCW he was known as The Giant.

No, the WCW guy was Captain Insano.

[Spursfan092120]

No, the WCW guy was Captain Insano.

:lmao

Nice..Waterboy reference.

[crc21209]

:lol At the "Yes" chant. It's becoming the "What?" chant of today's WWE....:lol

[Spursfan092120]

lol Dolph Ziggler bashing on the Rock

-- Dolph Ziggler took a passive aggressive shot at Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson over The Great One's limited schedule with WWE via Twitter.

A Twitter user wrote to the WWE Superstar this week, "Couldn't decide which flexforce WWE figure to buy between your action figure and @therock 's.. chose the rock in the end!" Ziggler responded, "Typical, just make sure you only play with it 4-5 times a year...."

[VBM]

lol Dolph Ziggler bashing on the Rock

-- Dolph Ziggler took a passive aggressive shot at Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson over The Great One's limited schedule with WWE via Twitter.

A Twitter user wrote to the WWE Superstar this week, "Couldn't decide which flexforce WWE figure to buy between your action figure and @therock 's.. chose the rock in the end!" Ziggler responded, "Typical, just make sure you only play with it 4-5 times a year...."

http://chriswalder26.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/paulhornets120811.jpg

[RicFlair]

Wrestling needs a kick in the ass.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120404081540-kaufman-wrestling-01-custom-1.jpg

Get Borat to take an ass whuppin'.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/120404090818-kaufman-wrestling-02-custom-1.jpg


Unless I make another come back wrestling has seen its better days.

whooooooooooooo!!!!!

[RaZon]

Rasslin's better days

Ric Flair
Hulk Hogan
Lex Luger
Randy Savage
The Roadwarriors
Nikita Koloff
The Four Horsemen
Ricky Steamboat
Golbderg
Stoncold Steve Austin
Dusty Rhodes
Brusier Brody
Big John Stdd
Paul "Mr.Wonderful" Orndorf
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper
Sid Vicious


http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/b/billgoldberg/12.jpg (http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/b/billgoldberg/12.jpg)

[Darth_Pelican]

Speaking of Scott hall I saw that espn 60 special on him today, he's in pretty bad shape could hardly recognize him. I hope he turns his life around he was one of my all time favs.

So much for him turning his life around.... Read below. I saw the espn 360 special on him also. I think he will be dead in 6 months or less. He's so fucked up.


Scott Hall Arrested For Beating Girlfriend

by Justin LaBar (http://www.wrestlezone.com/profiles/238601-justin-labar)

April 10, 2012

One of the top stories on TMZ.com is the recent arrest of former WWE & WCW star Scott Hall.
TMZ reports that Hall's girlfriend, Lisa Howell, called the police on Friday, saying that Hall had been drinking for days and tried choking her when she got into her car.
The police noted that they saw red marks around Howell's neck and Hall appeared heavily intoxicated.

The following is the mug-shot from Scott Hall's arrest earlier today (http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/252933-update-scott-hall-arrested-for-beating-girlfriend):

http://cdn1.wrestlezone.com/images/stories/2012/April/001.jpg

[RaZon]

Back in his AWA days, where he started out.

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/pictures/s/scotthall/45.jpg

It was Big Scott Hall. Played up the nice cowboy bit.