***The Official 2012 NFL Draft Thread***

[DeadlyDynasty]

Thoughts, mock drafts, etc are all welcome here.

Who do you think your team will draft? What position is the biggest need?

For my boys, they need help at

OLB
WR
OT (If Bell doesn't re-sign)
CB

The Bills badly need help at OLB and a #2 WR. Maybe Sheppard (our 3rd rounder from last year) will pan out, but we're still weak at the wil and sam. Getting Upshaw from Alabama would give Buffalo potentially one of the nastiest pass-rushes in the league. We're weak at CB, but no more high draft picks wasted on this position please...the pass rush should make them look better.

In the bleacherreport (lol) mock draft, they have the Bills drafting Georgia Tech WR Stephen Hill at the 10th pick. det would be nice

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1123596-2012-nfl-mock-draft-predicting-all-7-rounds/page/11

[JoeTait75]

Since no QB is forthcoming for the Browns, it should be...

- Trent Richardson

- Offensive line

- Defense

- More defense

- Yet more defense

If they spend a premium pick on a WR it'll be a disaster. With McCoy at QB they might as well flush that pick down the toilet.

[Goran Dragic]

I want Michael Brockers. I'd be glad to trade the Saints 1st rounder and the 48th pick to get him. Some other holes they need to fill outside of a D-lineman not named Vince Wilfork the other teams actually pay attention to-

WR
C
S
OLB

Since all the safeties i the draft blow, I'd hope they find some alternative way to address that need (granted it might be their biggest need), and draft a receiver and OLB in the first 2 rounds and a C 3rd or 4th.

[monosylab1k]

I look forward to the Patriots trading out of the first round, getting zero pass rushers, and drafting 2 TE's per the usual.

[JamStone]

Or cornerbacks. Old sweatshirt hoody has started to hoard first and second round DBs in recent years.

For the Lions, have to draft all defense in the first few rounds. I'd be happy if they had a chance at any number of DBs in the first round at that #23 spot. Mark Barron and Dre Kirkpatrick might not last that long, but if they're there, either would be great. I have no problem with taking Janoris Jenkins if he's there, but I'm not sure if the Lions feel the same way.

I'd also like a OLB for depth. Keenan Robinson intrigues me in the 3rd or 4th round. Texas fan, is he has good as his measurables indicate? I've read several times his potential is greater than his production.

This draft doesn't seem as exciting as recent previous ones. QB class lacks quality depth after the top 2. No elite and electrifying RB like an Adrian Peterson. No freakazoid WR like Calvin or Andre. I think this might be one of the least exciting drafts in a while.

[monosylab1k]

Or cornerbacks. Old sweatshirt hoody has started to hoard first and second round DBs in recent years.

True, he has been prone to mass drafting shitty DB's who can't cover lately.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Or cornerbacks. Old sweatshirt hoody has started to hoard first and second round DBs in recent years.

For the Lions, have to draft all defense in the first few rounds. I'd be happy if they had a chance at any number of DBs in the first round at that #23 spot. Mark Barron and Dre Kirkpatrick might not last that long, but if they're there, either would be great. I have no problem with taking Janoris Jenkins if he's there, but I'm not sure if the Lions feel the same way.

I'd also like a OLB for depth. Keenan Robinson intrigues me in the 3rd or 4th round. Texas fan, is he has good as his measurables indicate? I've read several times his potential is greater than his production.

This draft doesn't seem as exciting as recent previous ones. QB class lacks quality depth after the top 2. No elite and electrifying RB like an Adrian Peterson. No freakazoid WR like Calvin or Andre. I think this might be one of the least exciting drafts in a while.

Justin Blackmon is a freakish WR, imo.

Floyd also has a ton of potential and could be a star. As for RB's, Richardson is obviously atop the board, but Lamar Miller will be a beast for who ever drafts him.

[Andrew Luck]

I wonder who gets drafted first.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Drafting shit in the secondary is an art Buffalo has mastered too:

2011:
Aaron Williams (2nd)
Da'Norris Searcy (4th)
Justin Rogers (7th)

2009:
Jairus Byrd (2nd--and he's actually good)
Cary Harris (6th)
Ellis Lankster (7th)

2008 (worst Bills draft if not for the 7th round):
Leodis McKelvin (1st)...please die
Reggie Corner (4th)
Kennard Cox (7th)

2007:
John Wendling (6th)

2006:
Donte Whitner (1st)
Ashton Youboty (3rd)
Ko Simpson (4th)

2005:
Eric King (5th)

[DeadlyDynasty]

Of all the mock drafts I've read so far (besides the ESPN insider shit), these are the players they've had the Bills listed as taking at #10:

Stephen Hill (WR)
Michael Floyd (WR)--I would cum
Riley Reiff (OT)
Luke Kuechly (ILB)
Quinton Coples (DE)
Melvin Ingram (DE)
Courtney Upshaw (OLB)

Unfortunately, most drafts I've read have the Bills signing Riley Reiff. It looks like Bell will leave us and go to PHI, GB, or PIT...but he only played 6 games last year anyways. Fitz was sacked the least among starting QBs iirc.

Coples and Ingram are good DE prospects, but drafting for depth in the 1st round is stupid. I'm not crazy about Kuechly either, but it looks like the Bills are moving Barnett to OLB (why?).

Order of preference:

1. Floyd
2. Upshaw
3. Hill
4. Kuechly
5. Reiff (although I like Adams better)...if Bell doesn't re-sign
6. Coples
7. Ingram

[Goran Dragic]

Drafting shit in the secondary is an art Buffalo has mastered too:

2011:
Aaron Williams (2nd)
Da'Norris Searcy (4th)
Justin Rogers (7th)

2009:
Jairus Byrd (2nd--and he's actually good)
Cary Harris (6th)
Ellis Lankster (7th)

2008 (worst Bills draft if not for the 7th round):
Leodis McKelvin (1st)...please die
Reggie Corner (4th)
Kennard Cox (7th)

2007:
John Wendling (6th)

2006:
Donte Whitner (1st)
Ashton Youboty (3rd)
Ko Simpson (4th)

2005:
Eric King (5th)
Sorry senor, but the last few years Belichick has taken the crown for "Most wasted 1st and 2nd round picks in the secondary."

The thing is they're all good talents, they just can never get settled in with constant position and scheme changes,

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yeah, but the Bills aren't even drafting talent...just straight-up duds:lol

Bills could also use a TE, but I'm afraid they'll avoid this till the later rounds cause they just re-signed Chandler. I could live with them avoiding LB in the first couple rounds if they drafted Floyd and Allen in the first two, but that's a wet dream:lol

Outside of the 1st round. whoever gets Lamar Miller and Dwayne Allen are getting instant stars, imho.

[Goran Dragic]

If New England is gonna keep using the 4-3 I'd want them getting Sean Spence since they don't have any natural 4-3 OLBs on their roster

[DeadlyDynasty]

The majority of the mocks I've seen have SS going to the G-men...not fair:lol

[Goran Dragic]

If the Giants got a better MLB than that fat honkie Blackburn they'd be on their own level defensively

[jjktkk]

Because Ware needs pash rush help, I would be happy if the Boys pick up any of the following players with their 1st rounder: Ingram, Hightower, Poe, or Cox.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Bills Current starters--those positions/players in red need to be addressed or moved down the depth chart to make room for new draft picks.

I'm three sheets to the moon so bear with me...

Offense:

QB - Ryan Fitzpatrick
TE - Scott Chandler
WR - Stevie Johnson
WR - Donald Jones
RBS - Fred Jackson/CJ Spiller
FB - Corey McIntyre
C - Eric Wood
LG - Andy Levitre
RG - Kraig Urbik
RT - Erik Pears
LT - Chris Hairston??????

The line is solid, but Bell leaving for Philly hurts the left side--but maybe not as bad as people think--Hairston (our 4th rounder last year) played in 11 games last year and looked very strong filling in and learning on the fly. Fitz was sacked the least of all starting QBs last year iirc (well, of those who played a bunch of games), so the line isn't that bad already. I say keep the line intact and only draft depth here in th later rounds of needed.

As far as WR...we need Michael Floyd to fall to us at #10. In the 2nd round, I also hope Clemson TE Dwayne Allen is waiting for the pick---those 2 guys would make Buffalo frightening on offense. If there is a god he will give both these scros to us

On defense, 7 of our 11 starters I'd be ready to go to war with, but the other 4 are either iffy or fucking blow.

LDE - Mario Williams
DT - Marcell Dareus
DT - Kyle Williams
RDE - Mark Anderson

OLB - Nick Barnett
ILB - Kelvin Sheppard????
OLB - Kirk Morrison

CB - Terrence McGee
SS - George Wilson
FS - Jairus Byrd
CB - Drayton Florence

Not gonna lie, our CB's SUCK. Even McKelvin is trash in the nickel. Hopeful that Aaron Williams out of Texas will shake off injuries and play into a starter cause we badly need help there. The jury is still out on Sheppard, especially since he's out of position, but we'll see. Morrison needs to be replaced there but they resigned him.

Please draft Sean Spence in the 3rd or 4th for this need.

Floyd
Allen
Spence

After that only corners and OL depth..and possibly a young QB too...


my apologies for the drunken rant

[LnGrrrR]

Projected Patriots first 3 rounds:
1a: TE
1b: CB
2a: WR
2b: WR
3: RB


smh

[LnGrrrR]

Sorry senor, but the last few years Belichick has taken the crown for "Most wasted 1st and 2nd round picks in the secondary."

The thing is they're all good talents, they just can never get settled in with constant position and scheme changes,

Thank goodness he at least has hit with some of the offense. When did BB morph from a defensive coach to an offensive one? Well, offensive except for the Super Bowls. Har-har-har. (Fighting urge to shoot myself...)

[Goran Dragic]

Thank goodness he at least has hit with some of the offense. When did BB morph from a defensive coach to an offensive one? Well, offensive except for the Super Bowls. Har-har-har. (Fighting urge to shoot myself...)
:lol yeah, offensive line seems to be the only position he's consistently drafted well at. Tight end too.

The rest of the offense is a different story. He drafts horrible receivers.

[vander]

Chargers need some stud linebackers

[LnGrrrR]

:lol yeah, offensive line seems to be the only position he's consistently drafted well at. Tight end too.

The rest of the offense is a different story. He drafts horrible receivers.

If I drafted 10 TEs in 10 years, I would hope I could pick a few decent ones too finally. :lol

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Most of the MD's I've seen have New England going D-Line in the 1st round. Some have them going OLB. Sounds about right.

[Edward]

Most of the MD's I've seen have New England going D-Line in the 1st round. Some have them going OLB. Sounds about right.
Every mock draft every year has them going D-line or OLB in the first round, it's been a big need for some time now. Belichick just doesn't wanna address it.

[Phillip]

Every mock draft every year has them going D-line or OLB in the first round, it's been a big need for some time now. Belichick just doesn't wanna address it.

Quit talking shit about football like you know shit about football when you don't know shit about football you piece of shit.

[BUMP]

Quit talking shit about football like you know shit about football when you don't know shit about football you piece of shit.

Come On Pat Burke Give Tim The Queer Duncan A Irish Carb Bomb Elbow Right In His Ear!

[monosylab1k]

Pats looking to trade up? (http://www.spasepeople.com/)

[Goran Dragic]

Pats looking to trade up? (http://www.spasepeople.com/)
I heard the same rumor that article is referring to tbh.

[LnGrrrR]

Pats looking to trade up? (http://www.spasepeople.com/)

:lol

[Spurtacus]

Vikings rumored to be eyeing Blackmon at #3.

[manufan10]

@ProFootballTalk: Sporting News' @RussLande says Tannehill has the strongest arm in the 2012 quarterback class http://t.co/KibwKqJZ

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Vikings rumored to be eyeing Blackmon at #3.

That would suck for the Bills (would ensure either the Rams or Jags take Floyd)...but I can't see Minny passing on Kalil

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

@ProFootballTalk: Sporting News' @RussLande says Tannehill has the strongest arm in the 2012 quarterback class http://t.co/KibwKqJZ

lol Tannehill. Some sucker team is going to buy his hype.

[Goran Dragic]

The team that wastes a top pick on Trent Richardson is gonna be the real sucker.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

The team that wastes a top pick on Trent Richardson is gonna be the real sucker.

Cleveland.

[manufan10]

lol Tannehill. Some sucker team is going to buy his hype.

I watched him play every game last season, I don't think he should be a first round pick, tbh.. I don't get the hype.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

I watched him play every game last season, I don't think he should be a first round pick, tbh.. I don't get the hype.
The guy is a mid-2nd rounder at best, but the power of overrated combine results coupled with media whoring have put this guy as high as the 3rd pick overall:lol

Also, Schefter just said the Vikings won't take Kalil with the 3rd pick--if that's indeed true, then I think it's safe to say Minny's trading out of that spot...hopefully with the Phins so they can reach for Tannehill:rollin

Passing up on Kalil--the best LT prospect in years--isn't wise though, imo.

[Bill_Brasky]

@ProFootballTalk: Sporting News' @RussLande says Tannehill has the strongest arm in the 2012 quarterback class http://t.co/KibwKqJZ

lol if Kiper starts blowing this guy some idiot team might draft him

[Goran Dragic]

Cardinals should trade up to get Kalil imo. Vikings obviously don't want to stay at #3 and the Cardinals need a real left tackle in the worst way so Levi Brown can move back to right tackle and the offensive line won't be an abortion. I'm not sure why teams aren't lining up to take the next Jake Long/Joe Thomas.

[RaZon]

I'd never take any running back as my first choice. There just isn't that much difference talent wise at that position. Great back will avg 4.5, an average to poor 3.8.

Curious about where Robert "Hulk" Turbin ends up. A monster with speed.

[Goran Dragic]

I'd never take any running back as my first choice. There just isn't that much difference talent wise at that position. Great back will avg 4.5, an average to poor 3.8.
On top of all that, a great back behind a shit line will average less than a shit back behind a great line. They also have a really short shelf life and are completely useless by the time they're 30. Idk why teams still use 1st round picks on RBs. Only way I could ever see it is a team that's already really good and is looking to add a dimension to their offense.

[RaZon]

On top of all that, a great back behind a shit line will average less than a shit back behind a great line. They also have a really short shelf life and are completely useless by the time they're 30. Idk why teams still use 1st round picks on RBs. Only way I could ever see it is a team that's already really good and is looking to add a dimension to their offense.

Yes, yes and yes.

Look at what Detroit did when they had Barry Sanders....nothing!!!

I do have to add, yes this guy was special, but still even he couldn't make a difference.

[Trill Clinton]

I really like Fletcher Cox but I don't see him making it to the 14th pick. If they can't get him I'd be content with Poe or Brockers.

[manufan10]

The guy is a mid-2nd rounder at best, but the power of overrated combine results coupled with media whoring have put this guy as high as the 3rd pick overall:lol

Also, Schefter just said the Vikings won't take Kalil with the 3rd pick--if that's indeed true, then I think it's safe to say Minny's trading out of that spot...hopefully with the Phins so they can reach for Tannehill:rollin

Passing up on Kalil--the best LT prospect in years--isn't wise though, imo.


Another day, another team in the top half of round one shows interest in quarterback Ryan Tannehill.

With the Browns at No. 4 and the Dolphins at No. 8 and the Chiefs at No. 11 and the Seahawks at No. 12 and the Eagles at No. 15 interested (supposedly) in Tannehill, the Bills at No. 10 are now in the mix.

Read More (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/14/bills-bring-in-tannehill/)


:lmao

[IronMexican]

On top of all that, a great back behind a shit line will average less than a shit back behind a great line. They also have a really short shelf life and are completely useless by the time they're 30. Idk why teams still use 1st round picks on RBs. Only way I could ever see it is a team that's already really good and is looking to add a dimension to their offense.

Agreed on all counts.

[TIMMYtoZO]

I would like to see the Giants add a TE or OL in the first round if anything. They are set on D/WR/QB. They can worry about a RB in the 3rd or 4th round. That being said, I can't see what Jerry Reese will do. He usually goes for the best player available.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Read More (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/14/bills-bring-in-tannehill/)


:lmao

They're just driving his price up for the Fins:lol

The Bills first 3 draft visits last year were QB but they never seriously considered any of them. It's just gamesmanship.

Word on the street is that Buffalo will draft Russell Wilson in the 3rd or 4th. I hope not (for obvious reasons), but that seems to be the popular opinion on OBD.

[vander]

Yes, yes and yes.

Look at what Detroit did when they had Barry Sanders....nothing!!!

I do have to add, yes this guy was special, but still even he couldn't make a difference.

Sanders is the exception, Detroit relied on him more than the Colts relied on Manning, that was a 1 to 4 win team without Sanders almost every year. I still feel bad for Sanders, on a competently run team, he would have gone to multiple super bowls

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Sanders is the exception, Detroit relied on him more than the Colts relied on Manning

lolwut?

[RaZon]

Sanders is the exception, Detroit relied on him more than the Colts relied on Manning, that was a 1 to 4 win team without Sanders almost every year. I still feel bad for Sanders, on a competently run team, he would have gone to multiple super bowls

Not just Sanders, as far as a great back on a sucky team goes. Gale Sayers-Bears, John Henry Johnson-Steelers, Ottis Anderson-Cards, Corey Dillon-Bengals come to mind.

[vander]

Not just Sanders, as far as a great back on a sucky team goes. Gale Sayers-Bears, John Henry Johnson-Steelers, Ottis Anderson-Cards, Corey Dillon-Bengals come to mind.

you are insulting Barry Sanders

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

:lol looks like Miami is really serious about wasting their 1st round pick.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/04/08/v-fullstory/2736801/miami-dolphins-might-want-to-overpay.html



So not only does Miami trade their best player away, they'll now sell the farm to get a converted WR with 17 career starts who comes from a conference that's the Mecca of shitty pro QBs.

:lmaoJeff Ireland

Couple that with the Jets' disaster of an offseason and next year's division schedule suddenly looks a little more friendly

[manufan10]

So not only does Miami trade their best player away, they'll now sell the farm to get a converted WR with 17 career starts who comes from a conference that's the Mecca of shitty pro QBs.

:lmaoJeff Ireland

Couple that with the Jets' disaster of an offseason and next year's division schedule suddenly looks a little more friendly

I think Miami would be a good fit, especially since Mike Sherman is the offensive coordinator there. I think that's why they're pushing for it, because it should be a rather smooth transition for Tannehill. Still don't think he's worth a high first round pick though.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Great so Sherman and Tannehill can underachieve together AGAIN.

This guy is about as NFL-ready as Jamarcus Russell

[TIMMYtoZO]

:lol@ the fins. Things keep getting worse for them.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I still like Tannehill over Henne or whoever his replacement's name is.

The Tannehill Russell comparisons are dumb. White > Black, not fat > fat

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Ok, Tannehill is white. He's still comes from a conference that breeds absolute dogshit at the QB position in the pros. To quote Cubby, they're 0 and forever in winning playoff games.

That's bad. REALLY bad...and he's projected go as high as 3rd overall. I'd rather have Matt Moore--that's how much Tannehill sucks.

[BUMP]

I'd rather have Matt Moore--that's how much Tannehill sucks.

This, and I'm not sure why the Fins are so quick to replace Moore. He had a pretty good season (?)

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Moore actually did pretty decent his last year in Carolina too, all things considered.

The fanbase down there just wants the FO to take a QB in the 1st round, because they havent done that since Marino iirc. The problem is they're making a 2nd or 3rd rd guy into a first rounder.

[manufan10]

Bill Jones ‏ @cbsdollarbill
NE reportedly wants to trade up to 13 to take Mark Barron? So, Cowboys fans, would u trade 1st (14) & 3rd (81) to NE for two 1sts (27 &31)?

https://twitter.com/#!/cbsdollarbill/status/193095066338852864

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cowboys need Barron just as much, though...

[Goran Dragic]

Another hard hitting strong safety who's mediocre in coverage and needs a free safety next to him who's a beast in coverage?

Just what the Patriots need!

[monosylab1k]

NE reportedly wants to trade up

:lmao i.e. this reportedly is a bunch of bullshit.

[monosylab1k]

btw I'd also be wary of wanting a player that the Cowboys also really want. If Jerry Jones thinks he's a good player, he probably sucks.

[monosylab1k]

Another hard hitting strong safety who's mediocre in coverage and needs a free safety next to him who's a beast in coverage?

Just what the Patriots need!

And Barron's injury prone to boot! Not like they don't have an exact replica of that at SS already.

tbh maybe Belichick's planning on Chung missing 8 games every season, so he'll get another guy who plays exactly the same and who can only stay healthy for the other half of the year.

[DeadlyDynasty]

If NE trades up it should be for Ingram or Coples...maybe even Upshaw.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Word out of Bills camp is that they're high on OT Chris Hairston (our 4th rounder last year) to take over for Bell at LT. Great news if true, so we won't draft Riley Reiff too high.

Now, I think Luke Kuechly is the only other option Buffalo might go with if they don't draft WR first.

Please draft Michael Floyd. If it's anybody other than Floyd or Jeffery I'm going to be pissed...

[Goran Dragic]

No way they take Jeffery with their 1st pick.

[Goran Dragic]

btw I'd also be wary of wanting a player that the Cowboys also really want. If Jerry Jones thinks he's a good player, he probably sucks.
:lol true

I'm still expecting them to draft Dontari Poe. I think Poe would be good in the right situation, but he'll be a bust if he goes to a team expecting immediate contributions from him just because he's pretty fast for someone who weighs 350 pounds.

[manufan10]

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports that Andrew Luck scored a 37 on his Wonderlic Test, while Robert Griffin III scored a 24.
24 is considered the league average by Wonderlic score historians. Luck's Wonderlic result was nine points higher than his predecessor, Peyton Manning's. Blaine Gabbert scored a 31 on the Wonderlic last year, and there has never been any indication that the test is an indicator of future NFL performance.

Link (http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=6439&line=231715&spln=1)

[jjktkk]

:lol true

I'm still expecting them to draft Dontari Poe. I think Poe would be good in the right situation, but he'll be a bust if he goes to a team expecting immediate contributions from him just because he's pretty fast for someone who weighs 350 pounds.

This is the problem. Say the Boys draft Poe at 14, everybody expects someone drafted that high, to instantly contribute. I like Poe, great physical talent, but definitely a boom or bust prospect.

[sa_butta]

Moore actually did pretty decent his last year in Carolina too, all things considered.

The fanbase down there just wants the FO to take a QB in the 1st round, because they havent done that since Marino iirc. The problem is they're making a 2nd or 3rd rd guy into a first rounder.
I have to agree that the fanbase wants a QB in the first. So rather than take a chance at a QB who will likely not beat out Moore for the starting job this year anyway I say go for a WR or pass rusher with the first pick like Floyd or Coples. Then maybe in the 2nd or 3rd you could get a QB like Weeden or Foles. Moore is fine, but the Dolphins have much bigger issues than QB right now. If we draft another OL in the first though I am going to be pissed.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I have to agree that the fanbase wants a QB in the first. So rather than take a chance at a QB who will likely not beat out Moore for the starting job this year anyway I say go for a WR or pass rusher with the first pick like Floyd or Coples. Then maybe in the 2nd or 3rd you could get a QB like Weeden or Foles. Moore is fine, but the Dolphins have much bigger issues than QB right now. If we draft another OL in the first though I am going to be pissed.

Drafting a WR in the first round would be comedy gold in Miami, though--especially after trading a Pro-Bowler away for two 3rd-rounders. Coples would make sense, but does Miami run the 3-4 or 4-3? The 4-3 would be better suited to him (and Wake, imo) and give you guys 2 nasty edge rushers.

If they draft Floyd I'll be PISSED.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Latest scoop is that Buffalo is no longer big on Reiff, but there's a strong push for Luke Kuechly or Mark Barron. Floyd is still in the mix too, and hopefully he hasn't been taken by #10--but drafting either of the former two is obviously their way of trying to counter Gronkowski and Hernandez.

Would be such a stupid move, imho...just grab a goddamn WR please.

[manufan10]

Calvin Watkins ‏ @calvinwatkins
Rumors of Cowboys trying to move up in draft with KC is not true according to someone i spoke with. #smokescreen?

https://twitter.com/#!/calvinwatkins/status/193902596732358656

[DeadlyDynasty]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/22/talk-heats-up-that-matt-kalil-could-slide/

Kalil could slide in the draft, so says PFT

[Kai]

Kalil is going #3. just posturing before the draft on Minny's end.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Kalil is going #3. just postulating before the draft on Minny's end.

Possibly, but there's been speculation that Minny would trade out of the #3 spot for awhile now. Besides, they could definitely use Claiborne or Blackmon too if they were to stay put.


tbh I know most will disagree with this, but I think this draft could be one of the most interesting in recent years. It definitely looks like one of the deepest draft classes as well, contrary to popular opinion. There's a ton of legitimate talent to be had on Day 2, instead of the usual Dipshit McGees you get in the later rounds.

[Kai]

I'll be happy if the Texans get a good WR and pass rusher, which this draft seems to have plenty of both.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Deepest draft of WRs that I can remember.

[djohn2oo8]

I'll be happy if the Texans get a good WR and pass rusher, which this draft seems to have plenty of both.

If Jacoby Jones is off the roster by training camp I'll be happy. That piece of shit was talkin about taking whoever they draft at WR under his wing.

[Kai]

If Jacoby Jones is off the roster by training camp I'll be happy. That piece of shit was talkin about taking whoever they draft at WR under his wing.

lol I hope so, but you know how Kubes can be loyal to his guys :bang

[manufan10]

Report: Bills “extremely interested” in Mark Barron:


A Tuesday report from Joe Buscaglia of WGR 550, however, indicates that Barron may indeed crack the first ten selections. Per Buscaglia, the Bills are “extremely interested” in Barron, and he could “even be thought of as a favorite” to be Buffalo’s pick at No. 10 overall. The Bills reportedly view Barron as a “playmaker” and “day-one starter” who could solidify their secondary.

Read More (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/24/report-bills-extremely-interested-in-mark-barron/)

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

They're not going to draft Barron...he cant cover and that's what our secondary's main problem was...its just posturing to try and fleece the cowboys in a trade since they covet him

[manufan10]

They're not going to draft Barron...he cant cover and that's what our secondary's main problem was...its just posturing to try and fleece the cowboys in a trade since they covet him

A lot of smokescreen will be going up between now and the draft tomorrow night.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

A lot of smokescreen will be going up between now and the draft tomorrow night.

yup...just looked at Mayock's mock...he's been surprisingly accurate the last few years (at least with the Top 10), and he has the Bills drafting Luke Kuechly...det would suck, but it would be such the Buffalo thing to do.

Another rumor I heard--which would be fucking sweet--is Buffalo trading out of the 10th pick for 2 mid-to-late 1st rounders, picking up Cordy Glenn and Stephen Hill with them. I would cum.

[Spurtacus]

Kiper's 5.0 mock (4/25)

Luck
RG3
Claiborne
Richardson
Kalil
Blackmon
Cox
Tannehill
Kuechly
Floyd
Decastro
Jones, Chandler
Ingram
Barron
Gilmore
Coples
Glenn, Cordy
Reiff
Mercilus
Kirkpatrick
Hill, Stephen
Weeden
Martin, Doug
Poe
Brockers
Fleener
Upshaw
McClellin
Hightower
Zeitler
Smith, Harrison
Massie

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

I like Kiper's better:D

I'm going to say this 1000 more times before the draft...PLEASE DRAFT FLOYD, unless you get trade back and can get both a franchise LT and Hill.

[Spurtacus]

McShay's newest mock also has the Bills drafting Floyd.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Let's hope those 2 tools are right

[manufan10]

Citing a league source, Florio reported on Sunday night that owner Stephen Ross is “pushing hardest” in the Dolphins’ building for the team to draft Texas A&M quarterback Ryan Tannehill with the No. 8 overall pick.

Read More (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/more-evidence-that-stephen-ross-wants-ryan-tannehill/)

Grantland compared Ryan Tannehill to Akili Smith:


We've really forgotten as a culture just how bad Akili Smith was. He's basically the Ryan Tannehill nightmare; after just two years of action in college, Smith's ideal size and arm strength pushed him up draft boards during the spring of 1999. He eventually settled in as the third franchise quarterback in a three-man group, and the Bengals made him the third overall pick behind fellow signal-callers Tim Couch and Donovan McNabb. McNabb was good, and Couch was middling, but Smith was abysmal. He completed 46.6 percent of his passes as a pro, threw 13 interceptions against just five touchdowns, and was out of football after 17 starts in four years. In his one year as the regular starter in Cincinnati, the Bengals offense averaged 11.6 points per game. Tannehill can't possibly be that bad, right?

Link (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7849206/how-tell-which-draft-picks-truly-valuable)

[Spurtacus]

Dolphins management sucks so bad that it wouldn't surprise me if the took Tannehill at #8. Tannehill would fit better on the Dolphins with Mike Sherman then any other team but he's not worth that high of a pick. Their next pick at #42 is more reasonable but some other team will likely draft him before then.

[Kai]

:lol @ a box safety going top 10

[Spurtacus]

Schefter is adamant that Mark Barron won't make it to the Cowboys at #14.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol @ a box safety going top 10
Who do you see us taking in the 1st? I haven't followed the prospects.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Schefter is adamant that Mark Barron won't make it to the Cowboys at #14.

Schefty thinks Buffalo will grab him...if so im going to murder someone

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

whoever drafts Barron is gonna be wasting a pick tbh

[DPG21920]

I'd rather have Red Baron i siadddddddddd

[Kai]

Who do you see us taking in the 1st? I haven't followed the prospects.

tbh i'm not so sure. I don't see a receiver worth the 26th pick, so I'd guess a pass rusher like Courtney Upshaw if he's there or an OL. I honestly think Rick is gonna work the phones hard to move up or down in the draft. We have finally have a solid enough squad to wiggle around and make some moves, be it up or down.

[manufan10]

whoever drafts Barron is gonna be wasting a pick tbh

Damn it! That means the Cowboys are going to draft him. :depressed

[manufan10]

There sure is a lot of buzz around the Bills.. possibly just more smokescreen, but reports are saying Bills are interested in moving up so they can draft Matt Kalil.


Charley Casserly of CBS Sports and NFL Network is reporting that the left tackle-needy Buffalo Bills “would like to trade up” to draft USC’s Matt Kalil, and are willing to surrender a second-round pick to close the deal.

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/report-bills-want-to-trade-up-for-matt-kalil/)

[manufan10]

Report: “Many teams” rank Barron as No. 6 player in draft:


Since late Tuesday night, seemingly no player eligible for the 2012 draft has had hotter draft stock than Alabama safety Mark Barron. A report surfaced out of Buffalo that the Bills are “extremely interested” in Barron, and it’s now believed he could end up going earlier than the tenth pick.

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/report-many-teams-rank-barron-as-no-6-player-in-draft/)

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

There sure is a lot of buzz around the Bills.. possibly just more smokescreen, but reports are saying Bills are interested in moving up so they can draft Matt Kalil.



Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/report-bills-want-to-trade-up-for-matt-kalil/)

I don't want them drafting an OT with the first pick--but he's the lone exception.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I'd rather have Red Baron i siadddddddddd
Oh! A phong is ringin!

Who's gonna draft Red Taron!

[rkell87]

just wanted to share this with you guys, it is probably the most complete and up to date draft rankings and tracker available, this is the link to download the excel sheet

http://www.mediafire.com/?rwwuzll0h17ve99


you can enter were a guy was taken and it will give you a value to see if he was a reach or great value, it also has all combine numbers with metrics and draft resources, if you are a draft nut you will love this

[mojorizen7]

Rams need ALOT....but i want Blackmon at #6.

At #33 i'll take RB Doug Martin.
At #39 i'll take OG Cordy Glenn

[Kai]

I don't think Blackmon goes #6 tbh. Not worth it, especially with a plethora of WRs sitting there at #33

[DeadlyDynasty]

Mark Barron = Roy Williams

[manufan10]

Lions are looking to move up to for a starter in the secondary:


Detroit’s secondary struggled in a season-ending loss to the Packers and a postseason-ending loss to the Saints, and if the Lions want to take the next step and beat good passing teams like the Packers and Saints next season, secondary is a position they’d like to upgrade tonight in the first round of the NFL draft. And the Lions might just be desperate enough for secondary help that they’ll trade up to get a player they’re confident can start from Day One.

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/lions-may-look-to-move-up-for-a-starter-in-the-secondary/)

[manufan10]

Patriots have talked to the Seahawks about trading their No. 12 pick.


Patriots coach Bill Belichick may be thinking about packaging his own first-round draft pick (No. 31) and the Saints’ pick (No. 27) to trade to the Seahawks to move up to No. 12.

Albert Breer of NFL Network reports that the Patriots have inquired with the Seahawks to see what it would take to move up to 12.

Link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/patriots-talk-to-seahawks-about-trading-up-to-12/)

[manufan10]

Cowboys are considering taking the following with the No. 14 pick:


With the 14th pick in the NFL draft, the Cowboys seem to have settled on four players they may select: Alabama safety Mark Barron, LSU defensive tackle Michael Brockers, Stanford guard David DeCastro and Georgia tackle Cordy Glenn.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/26/cowboys-consider-barron-brockers-decastro-glenn/

[DeadlyDynasty]

All would be good picks for Dallas

[manufan10]

Todd Archer is reporting that more than likely the Cowboys will take Michael Brockers. Adam Schefter believes that Barron will be long gone before the Cowboys pick at #14.

Link (http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4692109/is-michael-brockers-just-a-bigger-marcus-spears?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

[manufan10]

Anyone have an idea where Cyrus Gray or Jeff Fuller end up?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Chargers and Cowboys are calling the Bills about moving up...

[DeadlyDynasty]

I heard the Browns moved to #3

[Darth_Pelican]

Browns just moved up to draft Trent Richardson, making trade with Vikings

[Dr. Gonzo]

Smart move by Vikings.

[Spurtacus]

:lol Browns

Gave up three picks to move up one spot

:lmao

[DeadlyDynasty]

Vikings get 4th overall, 4th, 5th, and 7th rd pick...for a player that Minny wasn't going to draft anyways:lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

I think this cements Claiborne to Minny now

[Dr. Gonzo]

Vikings get 4th overall, 4th, 5th, and 7th rd pick...for a player that Minny wasn't going to draft anyways:lol

That doesn't make any sense. Unless they thought the Bucs were going to try to move up to get him.

[DeadlyDynasty]

My guess is that the Vikes told Cleveland they had a ton of suitors for the 3rd pick, and Cleveland panicked

[Darth_Pelican]

That doesn't make any sense. Unless they thought the Bucs were going to try to move up to get him.

It's the Cleveland Browns. They rarely make sense.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Who takes Kalil now? Don't think Minny does anymore, we know TB won't. Rams want Blackmon. Miami has Jake Long. If he's not a Vike, he'll be a Bill...maybe a Jag, but doubtful

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lol trading all those picks to draft a running back in the 1st round

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bad move by a bad franchise. I'm gonna have a cold one for JoeTait.:lol

[Darth_Pelican]

Goodell getting boo'ed out of the building lol

[benefactor]

Commish getting booed, per his usual.

[Deion Sanders]

Hahaha........oh, whatta day!

[DeadlyDynasty]

t-minus 10 minutes scros

[djohn2oo8]

Bad move by a bad franchise. I'm gonna have a cold one for JoeTait.:lol
:lol

[benefactor]

I don't have good words for the suck that is ESPN's intro.

[Trimble87]

lets take 10 minutes even though we all know who the pick is. trololololololl

[Darth_Pelican]

I hate the whole cell phone call right before being picked trend. Get off the fucking phone.

[Darth_Pelican]

Ok let's see if the RG3 troll signs in now lol

[Spursfan092120]

I hate the whole cell phone call right before being picked trend. Get off the fucking phone.

You do know that they're showing the call from the team to the player, right? Letting him know he's being drafted. They're supposedly not going to show that this year, though..to add to the suspense.

[Spursfan092120]

Sup Gonzo

[Spurtacus]

lol Luck is so nerdy looking

[benefactor]

RGIII chants...wonder how long it will be before they are ready to nail their messiah on the cross.

[Spurtacus]

1 pick and a commercial break. WTF ESPN?

[Darth_Pelican]

You do know that they're showing the call from the team to the player, right? Letting him know he's being drafted. They're supposedly not going to show that this year, though..to add to the suspense.

Yeah I know, I just don't like it. Like you said, it destroys the suspense.

[Robert Griffin III]

Tank u Massa Snyda! mama'd b so proud:cry

[Andrew Luck]

See you in preseason Bryan Leaf

[DeadlyDynasty]

Richardson already has 2 kids (that he knows about)?

[Spurtacus]

Richardson already has 2 kids (that he knows about)?

Aint shit to do in Bama but fuck your sister.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Here's the draft for the Bills...if the Vikes don't take Kalil, he'll be a Bill

[DeadlyDynasty]

Oh shit, Jags get Blackmon!

[DeadlyDynasty]

Ok, time for Floyd now!

[Spurtacus]

Gabbert to Blackmon :lmao

[Trill Clinton]

I hope this nigga blackmon brought some chapstick and a hankercheif. No homo.

[benefactor]

Oh shit, Jags get Blackmon!
lol Jags. Who is going to throw to him? :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Dallas traded up

[benefactor]

Dallas going after Barron.

[DeadlyDynasty]

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[DeadlyDynasty]

Dallas traded up

with who?

[djohn2oo8]

with who?
Idk who had the #6 pick,

[DeadlyDynasty]

Idk who had the #6 pick,

stl

[benefactor]

Oh and lol Cowboys. Barron is solid but not top 6 solid.

[manufan10]

Glazer says its for Claiborne.

[shyne]

Jerry jones still dumb ass fuck.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Great news if true...Cowboys get Mo, Bucs get Barron, Fins get Tannehill (lol), Panthers get Cox...leaving it open for Floyd.

[benefactor]

Glazer says its for Claiborne.
Yeah...just heard that.

[Spurtacus]

damn sons nice pick by the Cowboys

[benefactor]

Worth the 14th and a second though?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Worth the 14th and a second though?

That's a lot, for sure. Homeboy better be like Revis.

[manufan10]

Shored up one of their biggest needs, imo.

[slick'81]

damn what a move ryan needs cbs now carr/claiborne what a move

http://www.bleepingidiots.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Morris-Claiborne-e1335234492780.jpg

[Spurtacus]

Worth the 14th and a second though?

Fuck I didn't know we gave up a 2nd. Maybe Jerry has a deal in place for Mike Jenkins or Orlando Scandrick.

[Kai]

St Louis sure got a lot of picks this year, but they were picking #2 for a reason. trading down to 14 doesn't leave any elite prospects to pick from.

[DeadlyDynasty]

lol Gruden taking potshots at the Bucs

[benefactor]

That's a lot, for sure. Homeboy better be like Revis.
No shit. If he turns out like Kareem Jackson it will be lol Jerrah yet again.

[T Park]

Claiborne will be a top five corner next year, hes that good.

Dallas signing Carr and getting Claiborne, uh damn, if theyre healthy, their defense just improved five fold.

[T Park]

No shit. If he turns out like Kareem Jackson it will be lol Jerrah yet again.

Kareem Jackson would've been a giant step up from what they had last year.

[slick'81]

Claiborne will be a top five corner next year, hes that good.

Dallas signing Carr and getting Claiborne, uh damn, if theyre healthy, their defense just improved five fold.


hope so they traded up for this guy if he isnt a legit #1 shut down corner well fck

[DeadlyDynasty]

Get ready for lulz, people...methinks the next Dolphin catastrophe is on the horizon, in the form of Aggie

[benefactor]

Pretty big reach for Barron at 7 tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

LOL Miami

[manufan10]

Cyrus Gray says MIA is taking Ryan Tannehill.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Hey, did you guys know Sherman coached Tannehill last year? Thanks Mel and Jon

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lmao:lmao:lmaoMiami

[slick'81]

gig em

[benefactor]

crofl fins

[Spurtacus]

The blonde by Tannehill was smokin hot.

[benefactor]

Where is Sisk to defend this pick when you need him?

[Warlord23]

Another wasted season coming up for the Dolphins :lol

[manufan10]

The blonde by Tannehill was smokin hot.

His wife. :lol

[J.T.]

It's fitting that the dumbest guy in NFL history becomes a Dallas Cowboy and is instantly the second smartest guy on the team.

[Spurtacus]

His wife. :lol

He's a lucky man. Millions, hot blonde, living in Miami. Too bad the Fins are going to suck.

[benefactor]

:lolphins

[DeadlyDynasty]

Only one more to go!...please don't take Floyd, Carolina

[DeadlyDynasty]

So an Aggie is Miami's savior?:lol

[T Park]

Pretty big reach for Barron at 7 tbh.

Barron is a beast.

Been watching every Alabama game for the last three years thanks to the wife, and he is an absolute beast.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Barron is a beast.

Been watching every Alabama game for the last three years thanks to the wife, and he is an absolute beast.

suspect in coverage...big time reach at #7

[clambake]

too bad about this LSU kid flushing his career down jerry's toilet.

[manufan10]

Stephen Gilmore sounds headed to Buffalo at 10. via Adam Schefter

[DeadlyDynasty]

yes....Kuechly off the board!

[DeadlyDynasty]

Stephen Gilmore sounds headed to Buffalo at 10. via Adam Schefter

Please god no

[DeadlyDynasty]

I will go to church if they draft Floyd

[djohn2oo8]

Please god no
:lol

[manufan10]

I will go to church if they draft Floyd

Better start praying! :lmao

[T Park]

suspect in coverage...big time reach at #7

He'll be fine.

This guy shut down west coast offenses. If he stays healthy hell be a double digit pro bowler.

[Will Hunting]

Barron is a beast.

Been watching every Alabama game for the last three years thanks to the wife, and he is an absolute beast.
Oh! Well if you've watching Alabama play and you say Mark Barron is good, then he must be! He must also be on the same conditioning program you're on.

[benefactor]

suspect in coverage...big time reach at #7
Yup...could wind up the next Bernard Pollard.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yup...could wind up the next Bernard Pollard.

next Roy Williams imo

[Will Hunting]

He'll be fine.

This guy shut down west coast offenses. If he stays healthy hell be a double digit pro bowler.
:lmao:lmao:lmao Alabama had a shit schedule last year, he didn't shut anything down. Robert Lester is the better safety of the two and is the reason Baron was never exposed in coverage. Playing against Jiggaboo Jefferson probably didn't make Baron have to play much coverage either.

[DeadlyDynasty]

fuck life

[T Park]

I will go to church if they draft Floyd

No church for you.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Go Giants, fuck these bums

[manufan10]

fuck life

:rollin

[benefactor]

next Roy Williams imo
Agreed...better comparison

[Technique]

That guy gives great hugs

[Warlord23]

fuck life

Shoulda prayed about this one at Godvine, scro :lol

[slick'81]

damn barron the next roy lee glad boys didnt grab him

[DeadlyDynasty]

Shoulda prayed about this one at Godvine, scro :lol

I did. Nietzsche was right.

[Mugen]

I wish Al Davis was alive so he could move up to #10 and draft a guy he could have picked in the 2nd Round.

[Spurtacus]

KC-Decastro is my prediction

[DeadlyDynasty]

God this franchise is pathetic. I want drugs.

[manufan10]

Rumor mill says that the Cowboys might be looking to trade Jenkins. I'd rather try and trade Scandrick, tbh.

[Spurtacus]

rofl Chiefs

Reach much.

[slick'81]

big bad poe

[Mugen]

LMAO chiefs

[DPG21920]

:rolling DD

[Mugen]

Poe using up all his anytime minutes

[benefactor]

Poe's hair wtf

[T Park]

Nosetackle? Seriously?

[slick'81]

god damn 6'3 340 4.8 dt fck

[T Park]

WTF is up with this dude's hair?!?!

[benefactor]

Some good players falling. Do the right thing Texans.

[djohn2oo8]

I want Floyd!!!

[benefactor]

Eagles moving up

[DPG21920]

DD I'll do something crazy with you scro

[manufan10]

Seattle trades 12th pick to Philly. via Chris Mortensen.

[Mugen]

Cox to Philly?

[benefactor]

Eagles taking Cox here?

[slick'81]

Rumor mill says that the Cowboys might be looking to trade Jenkins. I'd rather try and trade Scandrick, tbh.
\\no doubt but jenkins will cost more to keep especially after bringing in carr

[T Park]

Some good players falling. Do the right thing Texans.


Floyd opposite Johnson just made me smile.

If it could only happen. He wont last past St Louis though..

[djohn2oo8]

I think Arizona is taking Floyd.

[benefactor]

Dammit Houston trade up. Everyone else is doing it.

[benefactor]

Cox it is.

[djohn2oo8]

Wow. Philly gave up THREE picks?

[slick'81]

good compliment in the middle

[shyne]

Ya cards get Floyd.

[manufan10]

Now let's see if Tannehill gets Mike Sherman fired twice.

:lmao

[benefactor]

:lol Eagles. They basically gave away their draft for one player.

[djohn2oo8]

Our FO has ZERO balls.

[shyne]

Rick smith ain't worth the fuck.

[T Park]

Our FO has ZERO balls.

Thier track record the last year or two is good, can't harp on em too bad.

Hell look at all the players they drafted last year that were damn good and STARTED. Meyers, Watt.

unreal.

[Mugen]

Man, imagine if Peyton signed with the Cards. Fitz/Floyd in that division.....

[benefactor]

Not sure why you are saying that. They have drafted pretty damn good over the past couple of seasons.