SICK of Manu being labeled as the "Worst Flopper in the NBA" FISHER IS THE WORST.

[timtonymanurich]

Article from True Hoop:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/39266/derek-fisher-flopper-emeritus

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[Mel_13]

You'll get over it.

[$pursDynasty]

I have always felt that Vlade Divac was the worst flopper of all time. One of the funniest memories is one year Phil "the Zen Master" Jackson was complaining about how Vlade's flopping was disrespectful to the game. Then the next year when Phil acquired Vlade, Phil is crying because he is constantly being murdered out there. :lmao

[timtonymanurich]

You'll get over it.

Likely...

Thanks. :rolleyes

[PBEEZY]

You'll get over it.

[urunobili]

CP3 says hi...

[MmP]

Im sick of Fisher being called 'classy' tbh
the guy is the dirtiest player around

[z0sa]

timtonymanurich :lol

[endrity]

In a couple of years James Harden will be everyone's number one

[letmk]

Im sick of Fisher being called 'classy' tbh
the guy is the dirtiest player around

Totally agree with this.

Although I'm a Spurs homer, but I do believe both DR & TD are classy. Or somebody like Joe Dumars.

But Fisher? Nah!!!!

[freetiago]

manu isnt even a big flopper
the part that damages his reputation the most is the reach ins
when a defender tries to swipe the ball he pretends like he was going to shoot it, jumps and flails his arms
now technically the defender did foul ginobili and the refs should call it, which they do most of the time
but we all now he wasnt going to shoot it, hes just abusing the rules and the defender for reaching in

id really love to see these people calling ginobili a flopper stand in the paint and brace their body for contact by a guy whos 6'6+ 230+ lbs driving in the lane at full speed
theyd either get in the fetal position or urinate themselves
and ginobili does it fearless like two times a night

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Im sick of Fisher being called 'classy' tbh
the guy is the dirtiest player around

Its a result of people taking PR at face value.

[DAF86]

In a couple of years James Harden will be everyone's number one

That dude must have watched a lot of Manu back in the day.

[TheSkeptic]

In a couple of years James Harden will be everyone's number one


That dude must have watched a lot of Manu back in the day.

He hasn't seemed that bad in the games I've seen but I've heard stuff like this from fans who watch them more often.

[GSH]

Yeah, but who is the best flopper in the league? I nominate Varejao. I haven't checked the last couple of seasons, but when he came into the league he was always at or near the top for drawing charges. Some of it was getting good position. A lot of it was flopping. And he was damned good at it.

[Solid D]

Andrew Bogut is the most frequent flopper at 5 Megaflops.

[Old School 44]

"The more hair you have, the better," Battier said with a laugh. "My boy Luis Scola, he’s got that long hair and when it gets sweaty and he starts flopping and flailing, it looks like he’s getting murdered out there.

"I love Luis Scola, but he’s the most egregious flopper on the offensive end."

- Shane Battier on former teammate Luis Scola

I think Shane is on to something. Scola, Varejao, and long-haired Manu were/are some of the best floppers, and less hair CP3 is the worst flopper. I think he over compensates with the flailing arms since he lacks the floppy hair. :lol

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[jestersmash]

Speaking of Harden, I always found his draftexpress "player comparison" to be humorous -

Player comparison -
Best Case: Manu Ginobili
Worst Case: Jason Terry :lol

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Harden-1241/

[DAF86]

Speaking of Harden, I always found his draftexpress "player comparison" to be humorous -

Player comparison -
Best Case: Manu Ginobili
Worst Case: Jason Terry :lol

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Harden-1241/

That's awesome at so many levels :lol

[DAF86]

"The more hair you have, the better," Battier said with a laugh. "My boy Luis Scola, he’s got that long hair and when it gets sweaty and he starts flopping and flailing, it looks like he’s getting murdered out there.

"I love Luis Scola, but he’s the most egregious flopper on the offensive end."

- Shane Battier on former teammate Luis Scola

I think Shane is on to something. Scola, Varejao, and long-haired Manu were/are some of the best floppers, and less hair CP3 is the worst flopper. I think he over compensates with the flailing arms since he lacks the floppy hair. :lol

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3_5zoayBI1U

Don't forget Nowitzki, imo the best flopper on the offensive end.

[100%duncan]

cp3

[bobby4germany]

Here is the worst flopper EVER!
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/video-philippine-player-challeneges-omer-asik-basketball-best-193605733.html

[Spurtacus]

Manu hasn't had an obviously bad flop in years. CP3 does that shit nightly.

[Spursfan092120]

CP3 says hi...

see the bottom of my sig

[BadOne]

Yep. CP3 hands down.

[siraulo23]

Who cares

theyre both floppers

[siraulo23]

Yep. CP3 hands down.

:lol

that sig is awesome :lol

[DMC]

I agree with the OP. Manu is one of the best floppers in NBA history.

[rudwick]

cp3

+1
CP3 is the only one I've seen flop BETWEEN plays during a dead ball.
Pathetic.

[LoneStarState'sPride]

One of my favorite moments was a few years ago when CP3 was trying to flop and Tim Duncan caught him. CP was still wriggling around like a fish out of water, but Duncan just raised him off the ground every time he spasmed. Hilarious!

[Yuixafun]

LOL found this...

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[irishock]

ESPN started the Manu flopping BS because USA basketball got destroyed by him.

Manu isn't a James Harden/Kevin Durant flopper, Manu simply plays the game in such a smart way he's able to draw fouls easily without blatantly flopping.

[jestersmash]

I've always thought of Manu as more of a "flail-er" than a flopper. He embellishes foul calls as to draw attention to himself, thereby increasing the probability that refs will give him the call (flails).

Flopping to me is more of an extreme. Flopping is trying to sell a call that isn't a foul in the first place.

This is a flop:

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Flailing is trying to embellish a foul that is rightly a foul call. Flailing simply increases the probability that the refs will actually call it (because it's not humanly possible for refs to correctly identify and call 100% of fouls committed in a game).

I think Manu's "flopping" reputation is overrated. He's 70% flail/30% flop.

1:21 is a perfect example of "flailing" (by Chris Paul):

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Oberto is clearly moving into that screen. It's definitely a foul. Chris Paul merely embellishes it. It was George Hill's fault for not waiting for Oberto to set the screen before he made his move. Rookie mistake.

[pgardn]

Chris Paul would have made a great soccer player as well. Manu has an excuse for the flop having acquired the Argentinian soccer gene. Manu does not appear to excel at flailing/spasms though. He needs to move his arms more. Also a flop vs. flopping are two different things.

Sponge Bob defines "drop to the floor and flop like a fish" as flopping. Manu does not continue with the flopping like a fish after the intial flop. There is usually just one drop flop, he does not excessively spasm after the initial flop. Need more video evidence. All are important basketball tactics and deserve more than just this thread.

[JR3]

CP3 by far.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

The point I always raise here is "just because you flopped doesn't mean it wasn't a foul." The refs are not stupid. Flopping is a non-issue IMO, because it all depends on the refs and what they call or don't call. Think back to how many times you've seen a defender flop in the paint allowing an easy layup and it wasn't called a charge.

People seem to think flopping is "unmanly" and "disrespectful" for some reason. I really don't get that attitude. It's like people who value dunks over a nice up-and-under move and an easy layup, because dunks are more "manly". It's part of the game, that's why they have charging rules.

By the way one name I never see come up in the discussion is JJ Barea. That dude acts like he's shot every time you touch him, or even when you don't touch him.