Speaking of The Hall of Fame,

[RaZon]

...if that idea was just now thought of, like a 2012 brainstorm. Who would be the first six inductees into these various Halls of Fame?

Keep in mind all the greats will get their shot eventually. This is just who has to be there from the beginning, the roots to the tree.

In my opinion...

Pro Wrestling

Ed "Stangler" Lewis
Hulk Hogan
"Nature Boy" Buddy Rogers
Lou Thesz
Bruno Sammartino
Verne Gagne


Boxing

Sugar Ray Robinson
George "Little Chocolate" Dixon
Muhammad Ali
Jack Johnson
Rocky Marciano
"The Brown Bomber" Joe Louis

NBA

Wilt Chamberlain
Magic Johnson
Abdul Kareem Jabar
Michael Jordan
Bill Russell
Oscar "The Big O" Robertson

NFL

Jimmy Brown
Johnny Unitas
Joe Montana
Jerry Rice
Lawrence Taylor
Dick Butkus

Track & Field

Bullet Bob Hayes
Al Oerter
Edwin Moses
Michael Johnson
Carl Lewis
Jesse Owens

Baseball

Babe Ruth
Willie Mays
Ty Cobb
Lou Gehrig
Hank Aaron
Josh Gibson

Rockabilly

Elvis Presley
Jerry Lee Lewis
Carl Perkins
Charlie Feathers
Johnny Cash
Ersel Hickey

Rock & Roll

Bill Haley & The Comets
Bo Diddley
Little Richard
Chuck Berry
The Beatles
The Rolling Stones

Country

Jimmie Rodgers
The Carter Family
Hank Williams
Buck Owens
Patsy Cline
George Jones

Blues

Blind Lemon Jefferson
Robert Johnson
Bessie Smith
Muddy Waters
John Lee Hooker
BB King

Jazz

Jellyroll Morton
Louis Armstrong
Billie Holiday
Miles Davis
John Coltrane
Charlie Parker

Actors

Marlon Brando
James Dean
Betty Davis
Humphrey Bogart
Lon Chaney
John Wayne

R&B/Soul

James Brown
Sam Cooke
Ray Charles
Otis Redding
Aretha Franklin
Al Green

Bobybuilding

Eugene Sandow
Steve Reeves
Sergio Olivia
Lee Haney
Arnold Schwarzenegger
John Grimek

Gangsters/Outlaws

Al Capone
Billy the Kid
Jack Dellinger
John Wesley Hardin
Machine Gun Kelly
Butch Cassidy

Superheros

Superman
Batman
The Hulk
Spiderman
The Fantastic Four
Iron Man

Authors

John Steinbeck
Charles Dickins
Ernest Hemmingway
Edgar Alan Poe
H.G.Wells
Jack London

TV Shows

I Love Lucy
M*A*S*H
Gunsmoke
Cheers
Bonanza
The Ed Sullivan Show

Movies

Casablanca
Citizen Kane
King Kong 1933
The Searchers
The Godfather
Gone With The Wind

Those aren't chiseled in stone, if you have someone more deserving ....cool~~~

[mouse]

I remember my first beer.

[RaZon]

I remember my first beer.

Here's the deal mouse, see those lists above, sure you do. How would you like them pasted on every thread you start? Respect the topic...ok? Yep, just like I do. Don't be a little punk...ok?

[manufan10]

:sleep

[JudynTX]

You have way too much time on your hands. :lol

[clambake]

you screwed up on pro rasslin.

[RaZon]

You have way too much time on your hands. :lol

Yep, that's what happens when you're self employed.

[RaZon]

you screwed up on pro rasslin.

Ok then who do you have and who do they replace?

[RaZon]

:sleep

So for you what old chick is still hot?

[cantthinkofanything]

Yep, that's what happens when you're UN employed.

fify

[cantthinkofanything]

Yep, that's what happens when you're self absorbed.

Or this one

[cantthinkofanything]

Yep, that's what happens when you're UN employABLE.

and this one

[cantthinkofanything]

Yep, that's what happens when you're full of shit.

wow, I guess I kind of have my own list going.

[JudynTX]

Yep, that's what happens when you're self employed.

Self-employed doing what? Selling porn?

[RaZon]

Self-employed doing what? Selling porn?

I have no idea what brought that on. Porn??????????

I'm a gambler.

[RaZon]

wow, I guess I kind of have my own list going.

Keep it simple. Your lack of depth is amazing.

[RaZon]

Tim Duncan :tu

In place of who?

[RaZon]

oops

6q2mFiN7GIc

Not a card player, tried it and lost my ass.

I belong to a group, we bet college and pro basketball and college and pro football. Each of us having a field of expertise. We share the winnings.

[cantthinkofanything]

Not a card player, tried it and lost my ass.

I belong to a group, we bet college and pro basketball and college and pro football. Each of us having a field of expertise. We share the winnings.

:lol

[RaZon]

:lol

Don't get out much do ya little fella. So simple.

[cantthinkofanything]

Don't get out much do ya little fella. So simple.

Oh sorry. Just the thought of you and some other douches forming some kind of sports betting think tank with each having an area of expertise. And trying to figure out why you keep losing money. It's comical.

[RaZon]

Oh sorry. Just the thought of you and some other douches forming some kind of sports betting think tank with each having an area of expertise. And trying to figure out why you keep losing money. It's comical.

Stick to talking about peoples mothers. Trust me you have no clue.

[clambake]

Ok then who do you have and who do they replace?

gary hart
wahoo mcdaniel
fritz von eric

you pick 2 others.

[RaZon]

gary hart
wahoo mcdaniel
fritz von eric

you pick 2 others.




You are kidding right?

Gary Hart was a manager in the World Class region. No way he's anywhere around any best of much less a HOF.

Wahoo McDaneil was the best of the indian wrestlers (played in the AFL with the Jets) but not a HOFer.

Fritz Von Erich was the best of the German rasslers (actually a Texan) while he was great and would eventually make the HOF he wouldn't be in with those I mentioned.

[clambake]

gary hart was a rassler. all those guys made it happen. give props to the founders.

[RaZon]

gary hart was a rassler. all those guys made it happen. give props to the founders.

Yes he was but was far more successsful as a manager....you disagree?

None of those guys were the founders. Rasslin' goes way back long before any of them entered a ring.

[clambake]

Yes he was but was far more successsful as a manager....you disagree?

None of those guys were the founders. Rasslin' goes way back long before any of them entered a ring.

before them, rasslin was the only way for gay guys to make contact in public.

[RaZon]

before them, rasslin was the only way for gay guys to make contact in public.

That's not true at all.

[clambake]

it might be. how do you know?

[RaZon]

it might be. how do you know?

Give me the names of those "known" gay rasslers from back in the 60's.

[clambake]

Give me the names of those "known" gay rasslers from back in the 60's.

i can't do that. they've asked for anonymity.

[manufan10]

tbh, I think The Rock or Stone Cold should be on your list. I'd probably try to get a superstar from every era, imo.

[RaZon]

tbh, I think The Rock or Stone Cold should be on your list. I'd probably try to get a superstar from every era, imo.

There are a handful of guys who made a huge impact on the rasslin' world to the point of shaping it. Taking it to a level where guys like The Rock and Stonecold could become who they were. We have to give them their props/respect first. Yes The Rock and Stonecold are without question HOFers, they will have to wait however.

[manufan10]

There are a handful of guys who made a huge impact on the rasslin' world to the point of shaping it. Taking it to a level where guys like The Rock and Stonecold could become who they were. We have to give them their props/respect first. Yes The Rock and Stonecold are without question HOFers, they will have to wait however.

And The Rock and Stone Cold carried the business when it was at its pinnacle, that is why they deserve to be on that list, tbh imo fwiw.

[RaZon]

And The Rock and Stone Cold carried the business when it was at its pinnacle, that is why they deserve to be on that list, tbh imo fwiw.

So who do they replace and why?

[Woo Bum-kon]

Hey RaZon, what's your favorite band of the last 30 years? I hear that you're knowledgeable about music.

[cantthinkofanything]

Hey RaZon, what's your favorite band of the last 30 years? I hear that you're knowledgeable about music.

step up your game slick. Get serious OK? Get it? It's simple. Respect the thread.

[RaZon]

Hey RaZon, what's your favorite band of the last 30 years? I hear that you're knowledgeable about music.

The White Strips

I like Jack White, he being a big fan of roots music. Actually played with Delta legend Son House who started recording in the 30's.

I also like...

Ray Lamontagne
Steve Earle
Ray Wylie Hubbard
Mark Lemhouse
Johnny "Slim" Campbell
The Black Keys
Harry Manx
Mike Younger
Lucinda Williams
Amos Lee
Ben Harper
Chris Thomas King
Keb Mo

But it is those old prewar blues where my love for music really starts. Something about primitive.

[Woo Bum-kon]

What's your favorite White Stripes album?

[RaZon]

step up your game slick. Get serious OK? Get it? It's simple. Respect the thread.

Not bad.

Me being you...

I saw your mom last night. just the top of her head.

[cantthinkofanything]

What's your favorite White Stripes album?

White Stripes, nice knock off. Why don't you just hop in the car and take a trip to where it all started for some African Blues.

H1XBdf2IshY

[RaZon]

What's your favorite White Stripes album?

Not sure...hmmm? I have 4 CD's a buddy recorded for me. He didn't break it down by albums. He told me I'd love them, he was right.

[RaZon]

White Stripes, nice knock off. Why don't you just hop in the car and take a trip to where it all started for some African Blues.

H1XBdf2IshY

I have a bunch of that African stuff.

You can now drive there?

[Woo Bum-kon]

Not sure...hmmm? I have 4 CD's a buddy recorded for me. He didn't break it down by albums. He told me I'd love them, he was right.

lolwut? Do you even listen to studio albums?

[RaZon]

lolwut? Do you even listen to studio albums?

Let me make something clear...

I have in my possesion well over 5,000 records/tapes/CD's. Tons of stuff! I have a few 100 CD's burned by friends as we exchange music. I discovered The White Strips that way. I dug their sound immediately.

Studio Albums...tons!!!!!!!!!! Actually CD's.

Not that I don't have a shit load of old records.

[Woo Bum-kon]

I was just expecting you to be familiar with your favorite band of the past 30 years' studio albums. I guess that's too much to ask for a music expert.

[RaZon]

I was just expecting you to be familiar with your favorite band of the past 30 years' studio albums. I guess that's too much to ask for a music expert.

They are of no historical significence right now. I just enjoy their sound. If I'd had to have bought their stuff I would have. I didn't have to so I didn't. I don't care what album any of it is off of. Right now.

[Woo Bum-kon]

They are of no historical significence right now. I just enjoy their sound. If I'd had to have bought their stuff I would have. I didn't have to so I didn't. I don't care what album any of it is off of. Right now.

So basically, you're a greatest hits kind of guy. Kinda sad for a music historian.

By the way, please take pics of this massive music collection of yours with a time stamp when you have the time.

[RaZon]

So basically, you're a greatest hits kind of guy. Kinda sad for a music historian.

By the way, please take pics of this massive music collection of yours with a time stamp when you have the time.

Oh no not at all actually just the opposite. I'm more into the obscure. I like to find those hidDen gems. That's what attracts me to those old blues.

Totally wrong on that.

Dude, you really think I'm concerned over proving anything to you? I don't care if you believe me or not. Take a picture...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ok man this is about as obscure as it gets. I own 8-10 books on them old blues. Bo Jones is nowhere to be found. He recorded one record.


M1FzZMqYwQE (http://M1FzZMqYwQE)

The flip side...Leavenworth Blues.

[Woo Bum-kon]

So what makes you a music historian anyway? What are your qualifications?

[RaZon]

So what makes you a music historian anyway? What are your qualifications?

This...


9CfmZ1-CQbo (http://9CfmZ1-CQbo)

..and knowing the complete absolute history of where recorded music got it's origins.

Woo...usually I'll play along because I understand where I'm at. This is where I step out of ..internet bullsht. I'm not going to try and convince you of anything. You're one of those little pests who have some need to discredit everyone. All you have to do is read me and look at the videos I can bring up. You'll figure it out.

I'm moving on you already showed me you aren't here to do anything other than bug.

See that record in the video? That is the only one in existence. Yep..one!

[CitizenDwayne]

People don't namedrop the White Stripes as a sign of credibility anymore, bro.

[RaZon]

People don't namedrop the White Stripes as a sign of credibility anymore, bro.

I agree.

This is credibility....


kOm4hSPLJd4 (http://kOm4hSPLJd4)

How was Tony Allen discovered?

[Woo Bum-kon]

I have read your posts. You can't name the albums of your favorite band of the past 30 years; you don't know anything about King Crimson or the Velvet Underground--both of whom are regarded as extremely influential. What do you know? You spend so much time telling everybody how knowledgeable you are, but I just don't see it.

[RaZon]

I have read your posts. You can't name the albums of your favorite band of the past 30 years; you don't know anything about King Crimson or the Velvet Underground--both of whom are regarded as extremely influential. What do you know? You spend so much time telling everybody how knowledgeable you are, but I just don't see it.

Continue to read me and watch the videos.

I have all his stuff. And the book.

C49H3aWdiK8 (http://C49H3aWdiK8)

[Woo Bum-kon]

You haven't posted anything substantive yet, and those YouTube videos are not proof that you are knowledgeable about music.

[RaZon]

You haven't posted anything substantive yet, and those YouTube videos are not proof that you are knowledgeable about music.

How about this...

Mississippi Bluesmen who recorded prior to 1930

Rube Lacy
William Harris
Bobby Grant
Garfield Akers
Tommy Johnson
Uncle Bud Walker
Ishman Bracey
Charlie McCoy
Jim Thompkins
Freddie Spruell...some dedate
Bo Carter
Charley Patton
Mississippi John Hurt
Cryin' Sam Collins

I have all their prewar recordings.

How about the history of Sun Records? Motown? Chess Records? Hank Williams? Emmett Miller? Dock Boggs? First women to record? Rockabilly?

Trust amigo you don't want none of this.

This is Fredie Spruell the first Mississippi bluesman to record. There is some thought that he was actually from Louisiana...hmm?

xpHOPCN_Znk (http://xpHOPCN_Znk)


That is Kentucky guitar great Slyvester Weaver in that picture. He was the first bluesman to ever record. That was in 1923.

[Woo Bum-kon]

I can Google that shit, too. Doesn't make me an expert.

[RaZon]

I can Google that shit, too. Doesn't make me an expert.

There ya go. I don't need to Google, I have the recordings. I have the liner notes to the CD's. I have 10 or so books on music. What would I gain by lying?

Who goes into that much detail over something they don't know about?

I have about 1000 old blues CD's. You think that's bogus...why?

Here ya go the great Emmett Miller. I have his famous 1928 recordings...why?
Rd9mw4_F02s (http://Rd9mw4_F02s)

[Woo Bum-kon]

Again, post pics of your collection with a time stamp and you'll shut me up. I don't know why you think it's fine to post lists to prove your knowledge, but pics are somehow off limits.

[RaZon]

Again, post pics of your collection with a time stamp and you'll shut me up. I don't know why you think it's fine to post lists to prove your knowledge, but pics are somehow off limits.

Why would I want to shut you up? I'd rather use you as a tool. How else can I do this....

JB2POWSnStU (http://JB2POWSnStU)

His recording from 1930 is considered by many to be the ultimate example of old prewar blues.

[Woo Bum-kon]

Again, why do you think it's okay to post lists to prove your point, but draw the line at posting pics?

Are you goin' to bark all day, little doggy, or are you goin' to bite?

[RaZon]

Again, why do you think it's okay to post lists to prove your point, but draw the line at posting pics?

Are you goin' to bark all day, little doggy, or are you goin' to bite?

I'm also a sprint/NFL freak. Can a produce a list of the fastest players ever to play in league? A list I came up with. Or is that bullshit also?

[Woo Bum-kon]

I'm not asking you about the NFL right now. Post pics of your massive CD collection with a timestamp. I don't get why you wouldn't want to do that.

[RaZon]

I'm not asking you about the NFL right now. Post pics of your massive CD collection with a timestamp. I don't get why you wouldn't want to do that.

I shouldn't have to. Tell me Woo, how many people do you know that have even heard of any of those I talk about? Well? How would I even know about their existence if I wasn't very serious about music?

The thing with the NFL is that if I'd lie about one I'd lie about the other...right?

I don't lie Woo, I'm the real deal.



Here ya go....(this from the football thread)



Let's run the 100m. The 40..nay! This is a fantasy...obviously.

Everyone capable of sub 9.5/10.30

*..one time Raider

heat 1

lane

1.Alvis Whitted..Raiders/NCSt
2.Willie Gault..Bears/Tenn*
3.J.D.Hill..Bills/ASU
4.Homer Jones..Giants/TSU
5.Mel Gray..Cards/Mo
6.Cliff Branch..Raiders/Colorado
7.Deion Sanders...Falcons/FSU
8.Herschel Walker..Cowboys/Ga

heat 2

lane

1.James Jett..Raiders/WV
2.Willie McGee..Chargers/Alcorn
3.John Roderick..Dolphins/SMU
4.Bob Hayes..Cowboys/FAMU
5.Bo Jackson..Raiders/Auburn
6.Phil Epps..Packers/TCU
7.Henry Carr..Giants/ASU
8.Isacc Curtis..Bengals/SDS

heat 3

lane

1.James Trapp..Ravens/Clemson*
2.Jacoby Ford...Raiders/Clemson
3.Michael Bates..Seahawks/Arizona
4.Sam Graddy..Broncos/Tenn*
5.Curtis Dickey...Colts/Tex A&M
6.Cecil Turner..Bears/CPSLO
7.Johnny Jones..Jets/Texas
8.Michael Bennett..Vikings/Wis*

heat 4

lane

1.Larry Burton...Saints/Purdue
2.Darrel Green..Redskins/Tex A&I
3.Trindon Holliday..Texans/LSU
4.Ron Brown..Rams/ASU*
5.Travis Williams..Packers/ASU
6.Pat Johnson..Ravens/Oregon
7.Jamaal Charles..Chiefs/Texas
8.Gerald Tinker..Falcons/Kent St

So who would make that 8 man final?

Special 100m (these guys were signed but did nothing)

lane

1.Stone Johnson...Chiefs/Grambling (died)
2.Ken Thomas...Chiefs/SJS
3.Frank Budd..Eagles/Vill
4.Jimmy Hines..Dolphins/TSU
5.Tommie Smith..Bengals/SJS
6.Ray Norton..Niners/SJS
7.Andrew Hopkins...Oilers/SFA
8.Eugene White...Raiders/FAMU

Non Trackster 100m (these guys weren't really track guys, sure they might have ran indoors but weren't known for track exploits)

lane

1.Rocket Ismail...Raiders/ND
2.Napolean Kaufman..Raiders/Washington
3.Eric Dickerson..Rams/SMU
4.Gale Sayers..Bears/Kansas
5.Chris Johnson...Titans/East Carolina
6.Randy Moss...Vikings/Marshall
7.Deseun Johnson..Eagles/Cal
8.Tony Dorsett...Cowboys/Pitt

Hopefully this is cool here if not I'll delete.:D
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[monosylab1k]

what's wrong with the white stripes? I mean I don't think they're especially great or groundbreaking, but they've put out some quality stuff.

[Woo Bum-kon]

If you are the real deal, you'd have no problem backing up your claims with evidence (e.g. pics). You didn't have to post that list, but you did anyway, so don't act like I'm making unfair requests or something.

If somebody has hard evidence of Bigfoot, and they want others to believe that they have evidence, would it make more sense to provide that evidence or to just claim to have it?

[RaZon]

Ok Woo how in the hell could anyone come up with that list of sprinters/NFLers if they hadn't spent the time and did the work? Try doing that without the interest....good luck. I'm the same with music.

Ok Woo go put somebody else in the dirt...hahahaha!!!!!! I gotta go make some $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[manufan10]

tbh, I'd like to see this collection as well. That's a lot of music right there, and I want to see it. If I had that big of a collection, I would be proud of it, and I would post pictures. Nothing to be ashamed about, imo... that is unless you're fabricating the story. Then of course, I wouldn't want to post a picture either.

[Woo Bum-kon]

:lmao yeah, I thought you were lying and it looks like I was right.

That was a pretty pathetic attempt to change the subject to the NFL though.

[RaZon]

tbh, I'd like to see this collection as well. That's a lot of music right there, and I want to see it. If I had that big of a collection, I would be proud of it, and I would post pictures. Nothing to be ashamed about, imo... that is unless you're fabricating the story. Then of course, I wouldn't want to post a picture either.

If this board was more...ah...mature, I would post pictures of my collection, would love to show off. Here.....hell no!

[Woo Bum-kon]

:lol What a lame excuse. This board isn't immature enough for you to not post here. Our immaturity doesn't stop you from bragging to us about how much you know. It doesn't stop you from posting all those shitty lists. Only now that you are being asked to back up your claims, the immaturity becomes a problem.

Again, post the pics and people will take you more seriously. People might actually start believing you. Until then, all you are doing is making stupid excuses.

[RaZon]

:lol What a lame excuse. This board isn't immature enough for you to not post here. Our immaturity doesn't stop you from bragging to us about how much you know. It doesn't stop you from posting all those shitty lists. Only now that you are being asked to back up your claims, the immaturity becomes a problem.

Again, post the pics and people will take you more seriously. People might actually start believing you. Until then, all you are doing is making stupid excuses.

Not real concerned with any of that. People can believe whatever they want. No big deal!

[Woo Bum-kon]

:rollin more bullshit. You're eager as fuck to post lists to prove how knowledgeable you are, so don't give me that crap.

:lol Pretending that you don't care about what people think when half your posts are about how much of an expert you are in music, football and whatever.

[Woo Bum-kon]

dp

[RaZon]

dp

Dude slow it down, foaming at the mouth?

I have fun with this stuff. The trick is to know more than everyone else then watch them do what you are now doing..."oh yeah, sure!!!"...when in reality I really am what I say I am. It's cool!!!

You have any idea how many people post on these boards with little fanfare? I know what sells tickets, just claim to know something. If you really do....very cool~~~~~~~~~~~

Everybody...."I'll show him"...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Music, football, sprinting....I have no equal on any of these boards. And well aware of it. So I have fun with little shits like you.

It took me about an hour to figure out this board has nothing to do with seriousness. So when in Rome....

[Woo Bum-kon]

Looks like somebody doesn't know what the double post glitch is.

:rollin Watching you try to justify your reluctance to post pics of your collection is hilarious. If you had the evidence, you would have posted it by now. Period.

You do care about what people think of you, so you can just quit lying about that right now. If I asked you to prove your knowledge by posting a list, you would have been more than happy to do that. Hell, you tried to post a list of NFL players when nobody asked you to. But since I'm asking for real evidence for your claims, you suddenly don't care about proving how intelligent you are. What a strange coincidence.

[RaZon]

Looks like somebody doesn't know what the double post glitch is.

:rollin Watching you try to justify your reluctance to post pics of your collection is hilarious. If you had the evidence, you would have posted it by now. Period.

You do care about what people think of you, so you can just quit lying about that right now. If I asked you to prove your knowledge by posting a list, you would have been more than happy to do that. Hell, you tried to post a list of NFL players when nobody asked you to. But since I'm asking for real evidence for your claims, you suddenly don't care about proving how intelligent you are. What a strange coincidence.

That's the fun I'm having. I have 6000 (around there) tapes/records/CD's. And over 10,000 books. I'm not lying. So since I have been truthful your opinion means nothing. I don't lie. Just because I'm not doing things the way you want them done....meaningless.

For you follow me/anyone around like you are tells me you are one fucked up dude. If you can't tell I have a real love for music and know my stuff you aren't really paying attention.

Last post to you Woo on this thread....you are one fucked up waste of my/anyones time. Take pictures so some idiot can...hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!