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Nbadan
04-16-2012, 01:48 AM
here are the juicy details...

http://static7.businessinsider.com/image/4e08dbc8cadcbb8a4b140000-400-300/legs-prostitute-sex.jpg



President Barack Obama's trip to Colombia this weekend has been overshadowed by a prostitution scandal involving at least 11 Secret Service agents assigned to the White House's advance security detail.

Since the Washington Post first broke the story this morning, details have started to leak about the incident, which took place during a wild night of partying at a hotel in Cartagena Wednesday night, two days before Obama's arrival in Colombia.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the staff at the Hotel Caribe were first alerted to the Secret Service agents' cavorting by a dispute between at least one local woman and at least one Secret Service agent over a bill for services rendered. When the agent would not open the door for the hotel manager, the hotel called the local police.

The hotel then checked to see who might have brought the call girls to the party, and initially came up with a list of 22 Americans — 17 Secret Service agents and five members of the U.S. special forces — who may have been involved in the partying.

...

The Daily Mail reports that "close to all" of the agents had prostitutes in their rooms, and that "many" of them are married, according to U.S. Rep. Peter King (R-NY), chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, which oversees the Secret Service.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-secret-service-agents-suspended-military-involved-colombia-prostitute-scandal-2012-4#ixzz1sBQgb8I3


It's all Obama's fault....just look at what he was doing to Shakira!

Wild Cobra
04-16-2012, 02:26 AM
They should have gone to Vegas. After all, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.

Oh wait...

Obama really pissed then off!

cheguevara
04-16-2012, 09:59 AM
Cartajenagate

Blake
04-16-2012, 10:03 AM
Victorias Secret Service

TeyshaBlue
04-16-2012, 10:05 AM
Victorias Secret Service

winner.:lol:toast

EVAY
04-16-2012, 10:58 AM
Victorias Secret Service

Beautiful!!!

Viva Las Espuelas
04-16-2012, 11:02 AM
Im sure this was all a misfornication. Nothing to see here. Move along.

Hope. Change.

cheguevara
04-16-2012, 12:01 PM
tbh in cartajena a hot girl is either a whore or property of a drug dealer. You mess with the latter and you are good as dead.

the SS reallly didn't have any options

Nbadan
04-19-2012, 06:34 PM
Ummmm...yeah..

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1064281!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg

Nbadan
04-19-2012, 06:36 PM
A woman at the centre of the US prostitution scandal in Colombia asked for $800 (£500) to spend the night with a US agent, the New York Times reports.

The woman - who describes herself as an escort, not a prostitute - told the paper the agent reneged on their deal, instead offering only $30.

That sparked a row that blew the lid off a night that saw 20 women taken back to the US hotel in Cartagena.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17773246

Yonivore
04-19-2012, 06:37 PM
Ummmm...yeah..

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1064281!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg
$50, Dan. She's probably had more dicks in her than a urinal.

Nbadan
04-19-2012, 06:45 PM
$50, Dan. She's probably had more dicks in her than a urinal.

spursncowboys
04-19-2012, 06:54 PM
Moral of the story is to pay your bill.

IWantsACuatro
04-19-2012, 07:16 PM
Ummmm...yeah..

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1064281!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image.jpg



Real talk. How much would you pay?


I'd throw down $200 tops if I was single and hadn't been laid in a year. Though I'd strive for a 2 for 1 two night discount if I bought drinks/food.

Yonivore
04-19-2012, 09:04 PM
So has Judge Jessica Recksiedler...(probably)
That's a bit unwarranted, don't you think?

Nbadan
04-19-2012, 11:32 PM
That's a bit unwarranted, don't you think?

Yes, My apologies to the Judge.

Nbadan
04-19-2012, 11:47 PM
Creepy



David Chaney has been identified as the Secret Service supervisor who retired under pressure this week in the wake of the prostitution scandal rocking the agency. Here’s a photo he posted on his Facebook wall back in 2009 of him protecting former GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.

“I was really checking her out, if you know what i mean?” he wrote in response to a friend, joking that he was a Palin “stalker.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/chaney1.jpg

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/photo-agent-in-secret-service-scandal-with-sarah

CavsSuperFan
04-20-2012, 09:06 AM
President Obama talked about the Secret Service prostitution scandal, saying he’s reserving judgment until all the facts are in; or at least until he figures out a way to blame this on George Bush…

DarkReign
04-20-2012, 09:09 AM
Were the SS agents having relations with underage girls? No.

Was the sex consensual? Yes.

Is prostitution legal in Columbia? I dont know, lets assume yes.

Whats the big fucking deal here?

CavsSuperFan
04-20-2012, 09:35 AM
Gosh Dark Reign…If our Secret Service agents have not done anything wrong then why is Obama investigating them? Why have some already been fired…Obama sounds like a tyrannical dictator if the agents have not done anything wrong…In any case we all know that this is the fault of George Bush!:toast

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 09:45 AM
Were the SS agents having relations with underage girls? No.

Was the sex consensual? Yes.

Is prostitution legal in Columbia? I dont know, lets assume yes.

Whats the big fucking deal here?
Were the SS agents in a compromising position with foreign nationals of questionable repute? Yes.

Were the foreign nationals of questionable repute allowed access to facilities that contained sensitive documents (related to the security and schedule of a sitting U. S. President)? Yes.

Any more questions?

CavsSuperFan
04-20-2012, 10:33 AM
"If you did this under Clinton, you were in line for the presidential medal."

Dennis Miller...

TDMVPDPOY
04-20-2012, 10:58 AM
was obama in the act also? wonder what his wife thinks....

CavsSuperFan
04-20-2012, 11:03 AM
was obama in the act also? wonder what his wife thinks....

Please Michelle, don’t send him to the dog house…
http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/ht_bo_obama_dog_jef_111224_wg.jpg

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 11:03 AM
"If you did this under Clinton, you were in line for the presidential medal."

Dennis Miller...
:lmao

Is he back on the radio in this area? They took him off the channel I listen to and replaced him with a local conservative talk show.

BlairForceDejuan
04-20-2012, 11:36 AM
Were the SS agents having relations with underage girls? No.

Was the sex consensual? Yes.

Is prostitution legal in Columbia? I dont know, lets assume yes.

Whats the big fucking deal here?

Professionalism for starters. If what yoni and news is reporting is true, well...that too.

Tell the oral board you like to bang hookers in Columbia for fun and see how far that gets you through the gauntlet for LE recruitment. They're alpha males, of course they do this shit...but if you can't even handle dis bidness correctly you don't deserve to be protecting the President. There's about 14,000 other men who'd be willing to do the job and can keep their secondary holstered.

Viva Las Espuelas
04-20-2012, 11:43 AM
$50, Dan. She's probably had more dicks in her than a urinal.

You put your dick in a urinal??

Viva Las Espuelas
04-20-2012, 11:44 AM
President Obama talked about the Secret Service prostitution scandal, saying he’s reserving judgment until all the facts are in; or at least until he figures out a way to blame this on George Bush…

I guess none of them looked like his son......

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 11:46 AM
You put your dick in a urinal??
And, just like that woman's vagina, the urinals are large enough for me not to contact the porcelain.

CavsSuperFan
04-20-2012, 11:47 AM
O'Reilly Factor…Dennis Miller said this about the Secret Service prostitution scandal:

“Hey, Billy, I don't know what you get for $47 bucks (in Cartagena, Chile) but we're getting' killed by the exchange rate... Now this is what happens… You go in, you offer the girl 50. I don't know what 50 gets you… I wish I worked at Current TV tonight, I could ask Spitzer to pull the price card out of his wallet... He could tell me…” :lol

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 11:53 AM
O'Reilly Factor…Dennis Miller said this about the Secret Service prostitution scandal:

“Hey, Billy, I don't know what you get for $47 bucks (in Cartagena, Chile) but we're getting' killed by the exchange rate... Now this is what happens… You go in, you offer the girl 50. I don't know what 50 gets you… I wish I worked at Current TV tonight, I could ask Spitzer to pull the price card out of his wallet... He could tell me…” :lol
:tu :lmao

ElNono
04-20-2012, 12:08 PM
Were the SS agents in a compromising position with foreign nationals of questionable repute? Yes.

Were the foreign nationals of questionable repute allowed access to facilities that contained sensitive documents (related to the security and schedule of a sitting U. S. President)? Yes.

Any more questions?

Officials said none of the 11 Secret Service agents who allegedly brought prostitutes to their hotel rooms in Colombia before President Obama visited for a summit last weekend had weapons, radios, itineraries or other potentially sensitive documents in their rooms.

link (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/18/news/la-pn-secret-service-investigation-20120418)

lol Yoni reports

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 12:22 PM
Officials said none of the 11 Secret Service agents who allegedly brought prostitutes to their hotel rooms in Colombia before President Obama visited for a summit last weekend had weapons, radios, itineraries or other potentially sensitive documents in their rooms.

link (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/18/news/la-pn-secret-service-investigation-20120418)

lol Yoni reports
It defies credulity to believe the Secret Service Agents did not have their weapons and other items, related to their mission in Cartegena, in their own hotel rooms.

link (The NBC News source noted that agents had copies of the president's schedule in their rooms and the incident may have caused a security breach. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/supervisors_and_elite_agents_involved_ccunjoDOxvXa 4cv7VqOnFI#ixzz1sbOwvlye)


The NBC News source noted that agents had copies of the president's schedule in their rooms and the incident may have caused a security breach.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/supervisors_and_elite_agents_involved_ccunjoDOxvXa 4cv7VqOnFI#ixzz1sbOwvlye

Winehole23
04-20-2012, 12:30 PM
Macho posturing, locker room banter and towel snapping, sanctimonious harangues, gratuitous lewdness, false hilarity...this thread has everything!

:tu

BlairForceDejuan
04-20-2012, 12:32 PM
Because officials would come out and tell the public there were sensitive documents in the room with their whore chasing men in black...

Just like they would have told the public they have whore chasing government employees protecting the Pres had Esmerelda not been short changed....

boutons_deux
04-20-2012, 12:43 PM
Hookers Downgrade US Credit Rating

Shortchanging by Secret Service Draws Strong Rebuke

NEW YORK (The Borowitz Report) – Days after Secret Service agents shortchanged a group of prostitutes in Colombia, the international trade group representing hookers downgraded the United States’ credit rating from AAA to B.

The strong rebuke from the International Alliance of Professional Escorts came after a Secret Service agent reportedly paid one of its members $30 for an $800 service, or only 4% of the stated price.

The statement from the International Alliance of Professional Escorts said that in downgrading the United States’ credit rating it was sending a clear message that its “members should be aware that doing business with the government of the United States carries with it a significant risk.”

“We are urging our members to avoid conducting transactions with the United States and to focus on more reliable customers, like the International Monetary Fund,” the statement added.

Just hours after the announcement from the escorts’ group, the U.S. Congress passed the following resolution blasting the Secret Service for its actions: “We strongly denounce the Secret Service for consorting with prostitutes, which has traditionally been Congress’s role.”

But it was not all bad news this week for the Secret Service, which today reported a 5000% jump in enlistment.

http://www.borowitzreport.com/

ElNono
04-20-2012, 02:51 PM
It defies credulity to believe the Secret Service Agents did not have their weapons and other items, related to their mission in Cartegena, in their own hotel rooms.

Why? Do you think they're on duty 24 hours a day?

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 02:53 PM
Why? Do you think they're on duty 24 hours a day?
Where do you suppose they kept their weapons and other mission-related items?

And, yes, to a certain extent, Secret Service's presidential detail is on duty 24 hours a day.

ElNono
04-20-2012, 02:55 PM
Because officials would come out and tell the public there were sensitive documents in the room with their whore chasing men in black...

Just like they would have told the public they have whore chasing government employees protecting the Pres had Esmerelda not been short changed....

Well, I really doubt this is the very first time SS agents hire prostitutes during their time off...

ElNono
04-20-2012, 02:56 PM
Where do you suppose they kept their weapons and other mission-related items?

The US embassy?


And, yes, to a certain extent, Secret Service's presidential detail is on duty 24 hours a day.

So you think those guys work 24 hours shifts for a full week... link?

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 03:06 PM
The US embassy?
Yeah, I'm sure.


So you think those guys work 24 hours shifts for a full week... link?
No, I think they are subject to call, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Actually, I don't think that, I know that.

And, I can't provide a link; you'll have to develop your own friendships with Secret Service agents and ask them yourself.

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 03:08 PM
Well, I really doubt this is the very first time SS agents hire prostitutes during their time off...
I would be willing to bet it is one of the few times a party of this size was arranged.

I do remember an incident at a hotel in Beeville, back with George H.W. Bush was either President or Vice President, where the Secret Service had a party at the hotel at which they were staying.

Alcohol and underage girls were involved there, too, If memory serves.

Wild Cobra
04-20-2012, 03:10 PM
Were the SS agents having relations with underage girls? No.

Was the sex consensual? Yes.

Is prostitution legal in Columbia? I dont know, lets assume yes.

Yes.


Whats the big fucking deal here?
Because now Obama can't use the services that he arranged his trip to Columbia for. The SS agents were doing product sampling for him, but now the media is all over this.

Wild Cobra
04-20-2012, 03:15 PM
Forget it ElNono.

You didn't fact check, and Yoni proved you wrong. I see you are following the same line of bantering you do with me afterwards to make yourself feel better.

ElNono
04-20-2012, 03:16 PM
No, I think they are subject to call, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

But on-call is not on-duty...


Actually, I don't think that, I know that.

And, I can't provide a link; you'll have to develop your own friendships with Secret Service agents and ask them yourself.

My lawyer (http://www.spoke.com/people/jerome-ballarotto-3e1429c09e597c100374f60a) is former Secret Service...

ElNono
04-20-2012, 03:17 PM
Forget it ElNono.

Uh?

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 03:21 PM
But on-call is not on-duty...
You're right, it means you're subject to being called to duty at any time. Being drunk and in bed with a prostitute, with your weapon and other assets locked up in the U. S. Embassy might make it difficult to respond to a call to duty at 2:00 A.M.


My lawyer (http://www.spoke.com/people/jerome-ballarotto-3e1429c09e597c100374f60a) is former Secret Service...
So, ask him if the President detail agents are required to store their weapons at the U. S. Embassy when they travel out of country on a work assignment.

ElNono
04-20-2012, 03:32 PM
You're right, it means you're subject to being called to duty at any time. Being drunk and in bed with a prostitute, with your weapon and other assets locked up in the U. S. Embassy might make it difficult to respond to a call to duty at 2:00 A.M.

Perhaps, but it doesn't mean they had any sensitive documents with them.


So, ask him if the President detail agents are required to store their weapons at the U. S. Embassy when they travel out of country on a work assignment.

I didn't say they're required to, did I? I'll ask him where they drop off weapons when overseas if they don't want to carry, but I'll doubt he'll say.

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 03:45 PM
Perhaps, but it doesn't mean they had any sensitive documents with them.
And, it doesn't mean they didn't.

I've seen reports -- quoting "officials" -- that say both. But, really, this is all beside the point. The U. S. Secret Service, when in a foreign country to secure a presidential visit, doesn't need to be partying and fucking whores.

Period.

1) Something like what happened, could happen. That only demonstrates what a severe lack of judgment all those bozos have and what President want's people of that character and judgment watching their back?

and;

2) U. S. Secret Service agents possess knowledge of Presidential security that you just don't want compromised. Let's stipulate they didn't have their guns or any schedules. Of the over a dozen agents involved, how hard would it be for a -- oh, I don't know -- drug cartel to compromise just one of them through blackmail or other device, in to relinquishing sensitive information. It's an incredible failure of Presidential security and, I'm sorry, they don't have a private life when they're in a foreign land doing advance work and this is exactly why.


I didn't say they're required to, did I? I'll ask him where they drop off weapons when overseas if they don't want to carry, but I'll doubt he'll say.
Quite honestly, I thought you were saying they store their weapons at the U. S. Embassy when out of country -- the "required," I thought, was implied. If it isn't required, I'd almost guarantee you that horn dog that bragged about checking Palin out when he was on her detail, probably had a back up weapon strapped to his leg while he was humping that hooker.

He's just that type. Frankly, I'm amazed someone with that type of character -- which he was more than willing to display on Facebook -- was even in the service. If that's the case, it's fallen quite a bit since my short association with members of their service.

But, sure, ask him. I'd be interested to know what the rules are...if he'll tell you. That, in itself, would seem to be a breech of security, though.

Wild Cobra
04-20-2012, 03:51 PM
My God ElNono...

Any ideas how unlikely it would be that they didn't have any sensitive information with them?

ElNono
04-20-2012, 04:01 PM
And, it doesn't mean they didn't.

So this:


Were the foreign nationals of questionable repute allowed access to facilities that contained sensitive documents (related to the security and schedule of a sitting U. S. President)? Yes.

is just a guess... Exactly.


Quite honestly, I thought you were saying they store their weapons at the U. S. Embassy when out of country -- the "required," I thought, was implied. If it isn't required, I'd almost guarantee you that horn dog that bragged about checking Palin out when he was on her detail, probably had a back up weapon strapped to his leg while he was humping that hooker.

He's just that type. Frankly, I'm amazed someone with that type of character -- which he was more than willing to display on Facebook -- was even in the service. If that's the case, it's fallen quite a bit since my short association with members of their service.

But, sure, ask him. I'd be interested to know what the rules are...if he'll tell you. That, in itself, would seem to be a breech of security, though.

I'm not defending the guys or their actions, tbh. If they fucked up, they should get the axe. But I also doubt that any gonzo can walk in and serve in the Secret Service. I would expect these people to be thoroughly vetted, and their actions monitored at all times.

I get the impression this wasn't a new revelation to the Service. I think it escalated when it became public and thus it looked bad enough to put a dog and pony show for the cameras.

ElNono
04-20-2012, 04:02 PM
My God ElNono... Any ideas how unlikely it would be that they didn't have any sensitive information with them?

Since your guess is as good as mine, very unlikely. I don't think these guys stop being professional because they fuck a whore.

Wild Cobra
04-20-2012, 04:06 PM
Since your guess is as good as mine, very unlikely. I don't think these guys stop being professional because they fuck a whore.
They have already committed a serious breach of protocol by that action. They are expected to be good examples of us. This is really the biggest problem. They broke standing protocol, and now cannot be trusted.

ElNono
04-20-2012, 04:11 PM
They have already committed a serious breach of protocol by that action. They are expected to be good examples of us. This is really the biggest problem. they broke standing protocol, and now cannot be trusted.

You don't even know what the rules are. Neither do I. That's why it's called the Secret Service. That said, it's not unreasonable to think they do these things and that the Service is aware of it (even if it isn't sanctioned).

To me, it's no different than US soldiers hiring prostitutes in their time off.

I could agree it's an error in judgement, but at the same time, I doubt we're having this conversation if it didn't become the scandal that it was.

SnakeBoy
04-20-2012, 04:17 PM
Is he back on the radio in this area? They took him off the channel I listen to and replaced him with a local conservative talk show.

Yeah that guy they replaced him with sucks, I really can't stand his show. Miller is on the tea party station FM 92.5 along with Ingram, Savage, Boortz. Their signal sucks so I can't pick it up out near Boerne.

Wild Cobra
04-20-2012, 04:18 PM
You don't even know what the rules are. Neither do I. That's why it's called the Secret Service. That said, it's not unreasonable to think they do these things and that the Service is aware of it (even if it isn't sanctioned).

To me, it's no different than US soldiers hiring prostitutes in their time off.

I could agree it's an error in judgement, but at the same time, I doubt we're having this conversation if it didn't become the scandal that it was.
LOL....

You are really something. I can continue to tell you why you are wrong, but I have practiced enough today arguing with a brick wall.

ElNono
04-20-2012, 04:27 PM
LOL....

:blah:blah:blah

Whatever

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 04:31 PM
is just a guess... Exactly.
Actually, no. It was based on the same type of media reports you linked saying the information wasn't in the rooms...

Like this:

Possible security breach: Secret Service agents had president's schedule in rooms (http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/04/16/11233411-possible-security-breach-secret-service-agents-had-presidents-schedule-in-rooms?lite)


The Secret Service agents who brought prostitutes back to their hotel rooms in Colombia last week had copies of the president’s schedule in their rooms, which raises the issue of a potential security breach, a law enforcement official tells NBC News.


I'm not defending the guys or their actions, tbh. If they fucked up, they should get the axe. But I also doubt that any gonzo can walk in and serve in the Secret Service. I would expect these people to be thoroughly vetted, and their actions monitored at all times.
If that's the case, the problems are much worse than I expected. Because Mr. "I-checked-Palin-out-if-you-know-what-I-mean-and-posted-it-on-my-Facebook" was a supervising agent. The Palin detail ended in 2008, after the election.

You're right, you would expect these people to be throroughly vetted, and their actions monitored at all times.

I think we're wrong. Otherwise, this idiot would not still have still been around after his comments about a Vice Presidential candidate. At least, you would hope not.


I get the impression this wasn't a new revelation to the Service. I think it escalated when it became public and thus it looked bad enough to put a dog and pony show for the cameras.
I agree. And, yet another reason for them to clean house from top to bottom.

ElNono
04-20-2012, 04:44 PM
Actually, no. It was based on the same type of media reports you linked saying the information wasn't in the rooms...

Like this:

Which were updated with news such as this:

A source at the agency told Reuters that presidential schedules and other sensitive documents are kept in a separate secured room, but Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee isn't totally reassured.

link (http://dcist.com/2012/04/top_general_embarrassed_by_secret_s.php)


If that's the case, the problems are much worse than I expected. Because Mr. "I-checked-Palin-out-if-you-know-what-I-mean-and-posted-it-on-my-Facebook" was a supervising agent. The Palin detail ended in 2008, after the election.

You're right, you would expect these people to be throroughly vetted, and their actions monitored at all times.

I think we're wrong. Otherwise, this idiot would not still have still been around after his comments about a Vice Presidential candidate. At least, you would hope not.

Not familiar with the whole Palin incident. Wouldn't surprise me some of these guys might be on a power trip. I would think it'd be the minority, or you'll see a lot more incidents like this.

But I also think these guys follow a very strict, supervised set of rules when dealing with sensitive material, etc.


I agree. And, yet another reason for them to clean house from top to bottom.

They black eye is there and somebody is going to have to pay the price, so clean house it is.

Yonivore
04-20-2012, 06:27 PM
I also think these guys follow a very strict, supervised set of rules when dealing with sensitive material, etc.
I'm with Peter King...I'm not so reassured after what we've witnessed this past week.


They black eye is there and somebody is going to have to pay the price, so clean house it is.
Start at the top.

IWantsACuatro
04-20-2012, 08:20 PM
Macho posturing, locker room banter and towel snapping, sanctimonious harangues, gratuitous lewdness, false hilarity...this thread has everything!

:tu


If you don't like it...you can geeeeeeeet out!

Wild Cobra
04-20-2012, 08:50 PM
And now a secret service agents speaks of "checking her out" when referring to Palin.

mavs>spurs
04-20-2012, 09:17 PM
seriously, lets make a big deal out of fucking some bitches whenever much MUCH worse shit goes on in america every single day :lmao

this shouldn't even be news. i guess i'm a bad guy becuase i'd fuck that big titty slut too.

:cry pussy is bad and evil :cry