Cubby on why the lakers are better off without Kirby Brant.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Tell us why it's a ridiculous hypothesis.

[Giuseppe]

Okay, what the fuck, I'm a dead stick anyway:::because the hypothesis is driven by hatred, want & jealousy not by reason & empiricals. Until "you" can overcome {5-4 Kobe over the shit bag Duncan} you'll be consumed & ruled by your hatred & jealousy.

& listen, I don't blame ya. When they was comin' for Daddy late in the last century I was insensed, driven with such hatred as you are now. Consumed with it. They was comin' after him, not Kobe, but, Daddy, and they was comin' to high tech lynch him.

And you know what else? They was gonna have the time of their lives stringin' him up.

Uh, uh.

[DMC]

It's a sound one imo, but not enough data points to prove it out. It's like the Melo/Denver deal.

[Giuseppe]

It's a sound one imo, but not enough data points to prove it out. It's like the Melo/Denver deal.

Sans the 5 NBA World Titles and that pass. That one to Artest that broke your fuckin' asses.

[Goran Dragic]

So Cully's response to the hypothesis is an ad-hominem attack on the author of the hypothesis, not the actual hypothesis itself

Sounds like a typical Cully argument :tu

[DMC]

Dale started off as if he was going to make a stand, then went right to the flag waving and scoreboarding shit.

So then, Derrick Fisher is better than Andrew Bynum and Pau combined for the Lakers, because Fish has 5 rings.

[DMC]

Sans the 5 NBA World Titles and that pass. That one to Artest that broke your fuckin' asses.

Past achievements are unimportant to this discussion. Though you live in the past, the topic is focused on the future, as in what will make the Lakers a better team.

It's not the first time this has happened. A couple years ago Kobe sat out a few games and Pau and the Lakers went undefeated during that stretch.

When your team's offense becomes one person's offense, you're much less effective than when the shots are not predictable.

:lol Kobe trying to get anything he can to be mentioned in the same sentence with Jordan.

:lol Dale Spambot unable to talk basketball, forgot how long ago, too busy waving the Kobe flag and advertising his "trends".

[Giuseppe]

Past achievements are unimportant to this discussion.

My ass. That's what The Hypothesis is all about. And you'll account for it.

Let us proceed...

[Giuseppe]

So Cully's response to the hypothesis is an ad-hominem attack on the author of the hypothesis, not the actual hypothesis itself

You're O & 43!!!

[BlackSwordsMan]

just parrot your way out of another thread

[DMC]

My ass. That's what The Hypothesis is all about. And you'll account for it.

Let us proceed...

It's about how the Lakers are playing now sans Kobe.

It's pretty obvious.

You're mad as hell about it too, not giving a shit about the Lakers, just about Kobe. You've developed some sick fanboi love for that guy that's Springer worthy.

[DMC]

You're O & 43!!!
Katie's like 0 & 80 or something, according to the medical records.

[Giuseppe]

It's about how the Lakers are playing now sans Kobe.

It's pretty obvious.

You're mad as hell about it too, not giving a shit about the Lakers, just about Kobe. You've developed some sick fanboi love for that guy that's Springer worthy.

No. You ain't framin' this, daddy. Uh, uh. It's all about 4-3 Duncan and 4-4 Duncan, and then 5-4 Kobe. You could dish it at 4-3 & 4-4, but, you can't take it at 5-4.

And sweetheart, you've nary other choice. They're still takin' it at O & 43, and you're taking 5-4.

And that's just the way it's gonna be.

[Giuseppe]

Katie's like 0 & 80 or something, according to the medical records.

Fine. You take that. Cuz I got:::

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 4

[Giuseppe]

just parrot your way out of another thread

You don't like it, lump it, go around the corner there, right over there, see it, Swordsy? And dump it.

:lmao

[pass1st]

What was your job, Curly? You know, back in the good ol' days

[Giuseppe]

What was your job, Curly? You know, back in the good ol' days

I don't talk about wo*k, or j*b, Pass.

It's my religion.

[pass1st]

I don't talk about wo*k, or j*b, Pass.

It's my religion.

What did you study in college, then?

[DMC]

Soon Dale is going to have at least 10 minutes per post to think of something interesting to say so he's not rushed to put out material.

I think Dale's former job was a hotdog vendor. Imagine his little quips that he would spew to customers all day, every day.

[Giuseppe]

What did you study in college, then?

Economics & management. I graduated Magna Cum Laude.

[Giuseppe]

Soon Dale is going to have at least 10 minutes per post

Nope. I won't post under a limit.

It's my religion.

[DMC]

Nope. I won't post under a limit.

It's my religion.
You'll do what I fucking tell you to do and you'll like, else you'll get the back of my hand.

[DMC]

Economics & management. I graduated Magna Cum Laude.
It's been a while since you've made anyone cum loud.

[Giuseppe]

You'll do what I fucking tell you to do and you'll like, else you'll get the back of my hand.

I ain't posting under a limit.

It's my religion.

[Giuseppe]

It's been a while since you've made anyone cum loud.

:rolleyes

[dunkman]

:lol

[Spursfan092120]

I ain't posting under a limit.

It's my religion.

Aww..let's cry about it. 5-4, 0 and 43, none of that matters...only number that will matter is 1-10...If that's their ruling, and you don't want to live by it? Don't fucking post.

[dunkman]

Kobe was just lucky to play with Shaq and then with Gasol/Bynum/Odom. He's a top 10 all time guard, but not the reason why the Lakers won those 5 'ships. Kobe can't really compare with Duncan.

[Giuseppe]

Aww..let's cry about it. 5-4, 0 and 43, none of that matters...only number that will matter is 1-10...If that's their ruling, and you don't want to live by it? Don't fucking post.

I ain't fucking posting under a limit.

It's my religion.

P.S., dishing suits ya.

[pass1st]

Economics & management. I graduated Magna Cum Laude.

:tu

Physics & software engineering majors here

[DJB]

Economics & management. I graduated Magna Cum Laude.

And clearly did nothing with your degree. :tu

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe was just lucky to play with Shaq and then with Gasol/Bynum/Odom. He's a top 10 all time guard, but not the reason why the Lakers won those 5 'ships.

http://everyjoe.com/files/2009/06/kobe-bryant-finals-mvp-lakersafplivetwo910692-bkn-nba-final-lake.jpghttp://i.imm.io/lWVK.jpeg

Bynum playoff stats 08-10

08 0.0 ppg 0.0 rpg
09 6.3 ppg 3.7 rpg
10 8.6 ppg 6.9 rpg

[Woo Bum-kon]

Katherine must suffer so that this forum survives.

[Giuseppe]

Katherine must suffer so that this forum survives.

Crawl, motherfucker, crawl!!!

[BlackSwordsMan]

I turned the corner looked back and you're still unloading copy and paste sentences?

[HomerFan092120]

Aww..let's cry about it. 5-4, 0 and 43, none of that matters...only number that will matter is 1-10...If that's their ruling, and you don't want to live by it? Don't fucking post.

Ain't as easy as when you got to take it, '2120.

tee, hee

[Spursfan092120]

Bynum playoff stats 08-10

08 0.0 ppg 0.0 rpg
09 6.3 ppg 3.7 rpg
10 8.6 ppg 6.9 rpg

Gasol playoff stats 08-10

08 18.3 ppg 10.8 rpg
09 19.6 ppg 11.1 rpg
10 13.1 ppg 7.8 rpg

I can do stats too.

[Spursfan092120]

Ain't as easy as when you got to take it, '2120.

tee, hee

After your continued absence, this post was official suicide. Cubby's schtick? And not even pretending to be my troll? Son, you've officially failed.

[Giuseppe]

I turned the corner looked back and you're still unloading copy and paste sentences?

Does Kobe lead the tired old shit bag Duncan, 5-4?

[Giuseppe]

Ain't as easy as when you got to take it, '2120.

tee, hee

tee, hee.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Gasol playoff stats 08-10

08 18.3 ppg 10.8 rpg
09 19.6 ppg 11.1 rpg
10 13.1 ppg 7.8 rpg

I can do stats too.

you got those mixed up a little, but what were Kobe's?
30-6-6 :lol
Jordan type #s tbh

[Spursfan092120]

you got those mixed up a little, but what were Kobe's?
30-6-6 :lol
Jordan type #s tbh

mixed up? Son, I got them straight off the site...if I'm wrong, tell me what they were, and post the link proving it.

[Deuce Bigalow]

mixed up? Son, I got them straight off the site...if I'm wrong, tell me what they were, and post the link proving it.

'08 is '09, '09 is '10, '10 is '11

[Deuce Bigalow]

Jordan's 2nd 3peat, 3 Championships
31/5/4/49efg%
31/8/5/47efg%
32/5/4/47efg%

Kobe's 2nd 3peat Finals, 2 championships
30/6/6/51efg%
30/5/6/49efg%
29/6/6/51efg%

Like Mike

[Latarian Milton]

u guys just be stupid to think the lakers would be better off w/o kobe tbh, if you get kobe off their squad hypothetically then Pau would be their #1 and you know the spaniard never won ZERO playoff game as team's #1. kobe still their flagship imho and even when he shoots piss poor in a game, he's still helping his team more then hurting it tbh

[ElNono]

Jordan's 2nd 3peat, 3 Championships
31/5/4/49efg%
31/8/5/47efg%
32/5/4/47efg%

Kobe's 2nd 3peat Finals, 2 championships
30/6/6/51efg%
30/5/6/49efg%
29/6/6/50efg%

Like Mike

Not Mike

[Deuce Bigalow]

u guys just be stupid to think the lakers would be better off w/o kobe tbh, if you get kobe off their squad hypothetically then Pau would be their #1 and you know the spaniard never won ZERO playoff game as team's #1. kobe still their flagship imho and even when he shoots piss poor in a game, he's still helping his team more then hurting it tbh

'08 Playoffs - .514 eFG%
'09 Playoffs - .492 eFG%
'10 Playoffs - .506 eFG%

'12 Regular Season - .462 eFG% (lowest in his entire career)

He needs to get his efficiency up like before for the Lakers to win playoff games

[pass1st]

statfan always posts about Kobe

[Deuce Bigalow]

Not Mike

Like Mike. Doesn't mean his is. Closest thing we have seen to him though

[ElNono]

I like how 5.5 = 6 for Kobe, but 4.5 = 4 for Jordan... :lmao

[Deuce Bigalow]

I like how 5.5 = 6 for Kobe, but 4.5 = 4 for Jordan... :lmao

No. I rounded up for BOTH guys dumbass. Go ahead and check for yourself.
I gave his 3.5 apg a 4. go ahead check the numbers :lol

[Spursfan092120]

Like Mike. Doesn't mean his is.
So stop comparing...seriously.

[ElNono]

No. I rounded up for BOTH guys dumbass. Go ahead and check for yourself.
I gave his 3.5 apg a 4. go ahead check the numbers :lol

I take that back, I was looking at 94-95

[DMC]

you got those mixed up a little, but what were Kobe's?
30-6-6 :lol
Jordan type #s tbh
To the tune of "Frère Jacques"

Here comes stat fag
Here comes stat fag

There he is
There he is

Statting like a faggot
Like a fucking faggot

Suck a dick
Suck a dick

[ElNono]

So stop comparing...seriously.

Not to mention Kobe was 3 years younger... and yet still couldn't match Mike's PER then...

[Spursfan092120]

Not to mention Kobe was 3 years younger... and yet still couldn't match Mike's PER then...

Also not to mention MJ played in an era where they didn't baby the guards. It used to be a big man's game, and hand checking/roughhousing was allowed by the guards. Now you can't even look at guards the wrong way and refs blow the whistle...especially Westbrook and Kobe.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Not to mention Kobe was 3 years younger... and yet still couldn't match Mike's PER then...

Kobe had more mileage.

And PER is a formula made up by Hollinger

[ElNono]

Also not to mention MJ played in an era where they didn't baby the guards. It used to be a big man's game, and hand checking/roughhousing was allowed by the guards. Now you can't even look at guards the wrong way and refs blow the whistle...especially Westbrook and Kobe.

Sad Lakerfan has to compare 29 y/o Kobe to 32 y/o Jordan to make it respectable...

What's even worse is that those 3 Finals were Kobe's peak, while Jordan had his better years already behind him during the 2nd 3peat.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Also not to mention MJ played in an era where they didn't baby the guards. It used to be a big man's game, and hand checking/roughhousing was allowed by the guards. Now you can't even look at guards the wrong way and refs blow the whistle...especially Westbrook and Kobe.

Kobe got more double and triple teams than Jordan. the '90s and '80s were mostly man to man, meaning one on one. Now the great defenses have great schemes designed to limit great scorers. The defenses are not better back then, nor are they better today.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Sad Lakerfan has to compare 29 y/o Kobe to 32 y/o Jordan to make it respectable...

What's even worse is that those 3 Finals were Kobe's peak, while Jordan had his better years already behind him during the 2nd 3peat.

Kobe had more mileage :lol

More seasons and more minutes = more mileage

Understand now?

[ElNono]

Kobe had more mileage :lol

More seasons and more minutes = more mileage

Understand now?

What does that has to do with anything? Those were absolute peaks for Kobe as the man. You take Jordan's peak and you're looking at:

31/6/8/53efg%
35/6/6/51efg%
35/7/6/50efg%

Which destroys Kobe's peak.

[Giuseppe]

I take that back

Jesus H. Christ. Call Ripley's, ASAP.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Actually their regular season + playoff minutes come to almost the same, Kobe had a couple hundred more. But that's nothing. So even though their ages were different, their mileage was the same.

And who cares anyways? Jordan's first 3peat is untouched by anybody. Combined with his 2nd 3peat, that is why he is the greatest.

[ElNono]

Kobe coattailed Shaq for 6 years... while Jordan was ducking it out as the #1 guy... more mileague my ass...

[ElNono]

Jesus H. Christ. Call Ripley's, ASAP.

Please

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe coattailed Shaq for 6 years... while Jordan was ducking it out as the #1 guy... more mileague my ass...

'85-'86 (2nd year) he only played 16-17 games
Played 0 games in '93-'94
Played under 18 games in '94-'95

That is basically 3 seasons off

[ElNono]

That is basically 3 seasons off

vs 6 years hiding behind Daddy...

[Deuce Bigalow]

vs 6 years hiding behind Daddy...

Give me his numbers in the '01 & '02 Playoffs please

[ElNono]

Give me his numbers in the '01 & '02 Playoffs please

Inflated numbers when Daddy was getting all the attention. And still nowhere near as good as Mike's 1st 3peat.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Inflated numbers when Daddy was getting all the attention. And still nowhere near as good as Mike's 1st 3peat.
Why was his numbers better when he was getting all the attention in '08-'10 then?

[Giuseppe]

Daddy

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

[ElNono]

Why was his numbers better when he was getting all the attention in '08-'10 then?

They're barely better, and he peaked then. It's logical a player improves over the years, and at 30 y/o is normally the time where you have a good mix of experience and athleticism.

[Deuce Bigalow]

They're barely better, and he peaked then. It's logical a player improves over the years, and at 30 y/o is normally the time where you have a good mix of experience and athleticism.

Uh they're much better shooting wise.

eFG%

Playoffs
'01 - .485
'02 - .459

'08 - .514
'09 - .492
'10 - .506

[ElNono]

Uh they're much better shooting wise.
eFG%

Playoffs
'01 - .485
'02 - .459

'08 - .514
'09 - .492
'10 - .506

They're marginally better.... .485 vs .492?

[Deuce Bigalow]

They're marginally better.... .485 vs .492?

.514, .492, .506 is much better % than .485, .459

also:

'01 WCF: 33/7/7/51%

'10 WCF: 34/7/8/52%

?

[Koolaid_Man]

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.


How does it feel to have all these cucks sucking your dick like this? I tell ya Cul...I may be Kool as a fucking cat but you and Luva gotdam I want to be like you guys when I grow up....:toast

[ElNono]

.514, .492, .506 is much better % than .485, .459


49% is much better than 48%? It's better. Much better?



also:
'01 WCF: 33/7/7/51%

'10 WCF: 34/7/8/52%

?

If you're going to start cherry picking splits, per the usual, I can post some really ugly looking series too. ie: '04 Finals.

I'm giving your kid props. He peaked in '09-'10 and being the man. He's still only comparable to a declining Jordan, but that's still better than most players.

[ElNono]

Woah... Kool posting about dick... who would've thought... :lol

[Giuseppe]

How does it feel to have all these cucks sucking your dick like this? I tell ya Cul...I may be Kool as a fucking cat but you and Luva gotdam I want to be like you guys when I grow up....:toast

I know. They bitch about me all the time, but, use my shit incessantly.

:toast

[BlackSwordsMan]

I know. They bitch about me all the time, but, use my shit incessantly.

:toast

:rolleyes

[Spursfan092120]

Kobe got more double and triple teams than Jordan. the '90s and '80s were mostly man to man, meaning one on one. Now the great defenses have great schemes designed to limit great scorers. The defenses are not better back then, nor are they better today.

Good fucking God, you're still comparing the two..just shut the fuck up. There is no comparison. If you have a rebuttal, just shut the hole in your face and watch the video in my signature.

[Spursfan092120]

In case you can't figure out how to find it with that pea sized brain of yours..

kmK1R17QpJU

[Spursfan092120]

And in case you didn't watch the video (which I'm sure you didn't), it basically tells you that Jordan was so much better because he played in the TEAM concept..something Kobe knows nothing, and never will know anything about.

[pass1st]

And in case you didn't watch the video (which I'm sure you didn't), it basically tells you that Jordan was so much better because he played in the TEAM concept..something Kobe knows nothing, and never will know anything about.

Why are you arguing with a guy that just posts convenient stats?

[Giuseppe]

And in case you didn't watch the video (which I'm sure you didn't), it basically tells you that Jordan was so much better because he played in the TEAM concept..something Kobe knows nothing, and never will know anything about.

And he played with Pippen. MJ couldn't do shit without Pippen.

It happened.

[Spursfan092120]

And he played with Pippen. MJ couldn't do shit without Pippen.

It happened.

:rolleyes

[Deuce Bigalow]

I never said he was better clown. And they are comparable.

Phil even called Kobe more skilled. Which doesn't mean better btw

[Spursfan092120]

I never said he was better clown. And they are comparable.

Phil even called Kobe more skilled. Which doesn't mean better btw

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2011-03-14/phil-jackson-says-kobe-bryant-not-in-michael-jordans-company

"Kobe has patterned himself after Michael, and there are a lot of identical things there,” Jackson told the Los Angeles Times, “but it's one thing to hope to be like him, it's another thing to be like him."

"I'm with (ESPN's) Bill Simmons on this," he added.
"We have to take Michael Jordan out of the equation. Stop comparing anyone to Michael Jordan. It's just not fair. He was remarkable. ...

"(Kobe) doesn't shoot the same percentage (.455) as Michael (.497). He has the same characteristics as Michael, but he's not the same player. It takes nothing away from him — he's a great player in his own right."


Listen to the guy who you're bent over for right now, and stop comparing...

aBh3jf4mOOk

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2011-03-14/phil-jackson-says-kobe-bryant-not-in-michael-jordans-company

"Kobe has patterned himself after Michael, and there are a lot of identical things there,” Jackson told the Los Angeles Times, “but it's one thing to hope to be like him, it's another thing to be like him."

"I'm with (ESPN's) Bill Simmons on this," he added.
"We have to take Michael Jordan out of the equation. Stop comparing anyone to Michael Jordan. It's just not fair. He was remarkable. ...

"(Kobe) doesn't shoot the same percentage (.455) as Michael (.497). He has the same characteristics as Michael, but he's not the same player. It takes nothing away from him — he's a great player in his own right."


Listen to the guy who you're bent over for right now, and stop comparing...

aBh3jf4mOOk
Are you retarded?
I know MJ is the goat dombass. I never said Kobe was better

sigh

He is the closest to Jordan. Everyone knows that. Heck, you even have a video of Jordan vs Kobe as your sig lol

[Spursfan092120]

Are you retarded?
I know MJ is the goat dombass. I never said Kobe was better

sigh

He is the closest to Jordan. Everyone knows that. Heck, you even have a video of Jordan vs Kobe as your sig lol

The video in my sig is explaining to idiots like you who keep comparing the two why there is no comparison. Even Kobe says he is not Michael...and doesn't like being compared to him. So why must you insist on continuing to do it. Do what you will, tbh, but I feel sorry for you...you look like such an idiot when you do it..and it's constant. Sad, tbh.

[Deuce Bigalow]

The video in my sig is explaining to idiots like you who keep comparing the two why there is no comparison. Even Kobe says he is not Michael...and doesn't like being compared to him. So why must you insist on continuing to do it. Do what you will, tbh, but I feel sorry for you...you look like such an idiot when you do it..and it's constant. Sad, tbh.

There is a comparison. Lol have you been in a cave the past decade?

[DMC]

Woah... Kool posting about dick... who would've thought... :lol

He's had over 300 posts with the word "dick" in them in the past year.

300 fucking posts about dick. There are overt homosexuals who don't think about dick that much (Atif, for example).

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3391501

He has over 300 about pussy as well, but you have to go back much further to find them, so Koolaid_Man talks about dick more than he talks about pussy.

I know, I know, not news.

[DMC]

Are you retarded?
I know MJ is the goat dombass. I never said Kobe was better

sigh

He is the closest to Jordan. Everyone knows that. Heck, you even have a video of Jordan vs Kobe as your sig lol
Irony

[Deuce Bigalow]

Irony

you got me there

*u

[Spursfan092120]

There is a comparison. Lol have you been in a cave the past decade?

You are such a dumbass. Even Kobe doesn't want to be compared to Jordan..says he doesn't compare to Jordan...yet you compare him to Jordan anyway. Please...go away.

[wanggi]

And he played with Pippen. MJ couldn't do shit without Pippen.

It happened.


Kobe played with Shaq and Pau.
Kobe Bryant not only couldn't do shit without Shaq/Pau, he made the Lakers lottery team before Pau filled the void of Shaq's departure.
Now Thunders, Spurs, Heat, Bulls..are better teams than Lakers.
The Lakers probably can't pass the Clippers In the WC.

[Bill_Brasky]

:lol posting irrelevant Kobe playoff numbers from years ago in a thread about today's Lakers

[Giuseppe]

Kobe played with Shaq and Pau.
Kobe Bryant not only couldn't do shit without Shaq/Pau, he made the Lakers lottery team before Pau filled the void of Shaq's departure.
Now Thunders, Spurs, Heat, Bulls..are better teams than Lakers.
The Lakers probably can't pass the Clippers In the WC.

Kobe: 2

Daddy: 1

+ you're O & 43!!!

[wanggi]

Jordon: 6
Kobe: 5



Just Bendovers and Gigolos claim they are sub-champs.