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Spur|n|Austin
04-18-2012, 10:15 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime
The Spurs should no longer be bound by our old perceptions of them.
The only reason the Spurs don't get more billing as title contenders is because of our own biases, our tendency to think of them as the same aging team that hasn't won a title since 2007, back when we envisioned a bright future for LeBron James (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1966/lebron-james) and the Cleveland Cavaliers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/cle/cleveland-cavaliers).
These 2012 Spurs are younger, faster and deeper. Which means they'll be up against the conventional playoff wisdom that speed and depth aren't the ways to win in the playoffs.
It's still hard to adjust to the Spurs as a different team. But their young, fast guys play almost as many minutes as the slow dudes. And how do we classify Tony Parker (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker)? Because he's been in the league 11 years we think of him as older, but he's still only 29.
We should be thinking of him as a serious MVP candidate. Parker is the heart of the Spurs the way Rajon Rondo (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3026/rajon-rondo) is the most vital organ of the Celtics. It's not that Parker is scoring more (his 18.4 points per game don't even crack his top four seasons), but he's doing a better job than ever of running a team the way a point guard is supposed to.
We can definitely put Parker in the fast category. Ask Steve Blake (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/1994/steve-blake), whom Parker statued on his way to a layup. (I know statued isn't a word, but there's no other way to describe the way Parker made Blake look like Lady Liberty with a full-speed change of direction.)
Collectively the Spurs put 112 points on the Lakers. Thirty-six of their points came in the second quarter, when the pace picked up and the reserves got extended playing time. Both are decided advantages for the Spurs against the Lakers.
"We did not look like we had -- nor tried to get -- control of the tempo," Lakers coach Mike Brown said. "It kind of reminded me of when we played Phoenix at Phoenix."
And that statement reminded me of how it used to be for teams going against Mike D'Antoni's Suns, when they'd get caught up in the pace and the Suns delighted in that, knowing if both teams put up a lot of shots the Suns would make more of theirs. This season the Spurs are fourth in the league in field goal percentage and second in 3-point shooting, so if anyone wants to challenge them to target practice they welcome it.
"We are playing with a much faster pace," said Tim Duncan (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/215/tim-duncan), who finished with 19 points and eight rebounds. "That's the way of the NBA. That's how it's going. You need to get the ball up the floor. Teams are too big and guys are too good defensively. You need to get the ball up the floor and make things happen early."
After all of those years of tormenting the Suns, how messed up would it be if the Spurs played the Suns in the first round and beat them by jacking their old style?
The longer-term questions begin with whether speed-ball can turn into a championship. It never did for those Suns.
And can the depth advantage come into play as much in the postseason, when their reserves will play more minutes against the other team's starters? And in the playoffs the Spurs can count on spending about 38 minutes playing against Kobe Bryant (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/110/kobe-bryant), who missed his sixth consecutive game because of a shin injury.
The Spurs secretly want Bryant to play in San Antonio Friday night so they can get an idea of what it would be like to play against this Lakers team with him on the court. They're still getting a feel for this possible playoff opponent after playing them for the first time this season last week.
That one didn't go so well for them. Andrew Bynum dominated with 30 rebounds and 16 points, and Pau Gasol (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/996/pau-gasol) had 21 points.
Spurs coach Gregg Popovich tinkered with the lineup this time, using Tiago Splitter (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3233/tiago-splitter) instead of DeJuan Blair (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3965/dejuan-blair) to counter the Lakers' height. Splitter couldn't stop Bynum in the first quarter, when he scored 13 points, but after the pace picked up in the second quarter the Lakers were never able to establish Bynum again.
If the Spurs hadn't won this, or at least made it closer than the pounding the Lakers gave them in San Antonio last week, the Spurs might as well have sent their main players home for the summer, because there'd be no reason to believe they could beat the Lakers in the playoffs with Bryant back.
At the moment, it's nothing for them to worry about. They have the No. 1 seed in the Western Conference and the Lakers are third, which means they could let the Thunder take the Lakers out in the second round. The Spurs match up better with the Thunder. Strange how a regular season that Popovich treated as a mere precursor to the playoffs by strategically sitting out his players could actually set up the Spurs for an optimal postseason run based on seeding.
As long as the Spurs show their style can work in the playoffs. If we're not going to consider them as the same old Spurs, it means we can't consider them proven.

Mel_13
04-18-2012, 10:22 AM
Gotta love ESPN. They've been pounding the "boring, old Spurs" mantra to death as their rationale for the annual Spurs obituaries. They really haven't noticed the younger players, their significant roles, and the Spurs changed style.

Now all that is on display in a nationalized televised beat down of the Lakers and they have no choice but to take notice and invent a new mantra.

Hilarious.

crc21209
04-18-2012, 10:35 AM
It's about damn time BSPN notices that the "boring, old Spurs" arent boring or old at all. Other than Timmy, Manu, and Jax, the Spurs are pretty damn young. TP is still only 29. Splitter, Green, Leonard, Neal, Bonner, Blair, and Diaw are all pretty young compared to alot of teams in the NBA....

NRHector
04-18-2012, 10:37 AM
actually that's the formula to beat the Lakers, fast pace,Bynum doesn't run back in transition defense he walks back giving a chance to the guards to do fast breaks. The Lakers guards are not very good on defense and they are slow

cheguevara
04-18-2012, 10:44 AM
run grey haired big breasted freak to the ground

spurs_fan_in_exile
04-18-2012, 10:50 AM
I don't understand how you can talk about the Spurs depth and then compare them to the SSOL Suns. Their biggest Achilles' heel (beyond the whole no defense thing) was that D'Antoni could never develop a worthwhile bench and that killed them more than once in the playoffs. Nash would end up having to play 35+ minutes for them to stay competitive during the year and by May all those minutes would catch up to him at the worst time.

If you have to compare their pace and depth to anyone it'd more like the Webber era Kings or the Nellyball Mavs, with the big difference being that this team has a veteran core of proven winners. Obviously that depth carries a lot of question marks in younger guys like Green and Leonard but hey, shit happens. Nobody knew who Manu and Jack were ten years ago.

Fireball
04-18-2012, 10:52 AM
good read ... but I still doubt we will be lucky enough to get the perfect seeding ... we might end up playing Dallas, L.A. and OKC

TD 21
04-18-2012, 07:25 PM
Gotta love ESPN. They've been pounding the "boring, old Spurs" mantra to death as their rationale for the annual Spurs obituaries. They really haven't noticed the younger players, their significant roles, and the Spurs changed style.

Now all that is on display in a nationalized televised beat down of the Lakers and they have no choice but to take notice and invent a new mantra.

Hilarious.

Yep, they can't win.

They're now pretty much everything they weren't four years ago when these idiots had them left for dead, so now when they become what they said they needed to become (but didn't think they could while Duncan and Ginobili remained stars), it's time to question that too. Always got to make them seem vulnerable, no matter what they do.

Man In Black
04-18-2012, 07:33 PM
Merge me. SAME ARTICLE, different thread title. Mine was earlier.

roycrikside
04-18-2012, 07:46 PM
Adande and Bucher hate the Spurs. They're both Lakers honks. Really the only ESPN analyst who wouldn't mind the Spurs in the finals is Hollinger.

jestersmash
04-18-2012, 07:51 PM
Pushing the pace in transition is a bonus for the Spurs. We don't rely on having to score in transition to put up points.

The Spurs still have one of the best half court offenses in the league.

DMC
04-18-2012, 07:52 PM
Why did Cheryl Miller ask Tony about flying beneath the radar? Isn't the media responsible for that? The Spurs cannot control it.