Man Beaten by Mob...

[cantthinkofanything]

one of the attackers allegedly said, "now that's justice for Travon"

So is that going to be the excuse for anytime black people want to beat up on a white person?

Note, the article doesn't mention the race of the attackers. That's only my assumption.

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

[cheguevara]

:lol now the media realizes the repercussions of inciting "race wars". you won't hear this in the national news. the executive order has been issued to silence any of these "incidents" for the foreseable future

[Winehole23]

the executive order has been issued to silence any of these "incidents" for the foreseable future Today 09:08 AMapparently WKRG didn't get the memo

[cheguevara]

apparently WKRG didn't get the memo



national news

[Winehole23]

um, you didn't say national news, you just said "the media." WKRG is a CBS TV affiliate.

How isn't that a "media" source?

[cheguevara]

mobile, pensacola does not = national news

wake me up when this news makes primetime on CNN, FOX, MSNBC

[Winehole23]

presumably you found the link through an internet platform of the news source, so the "new media" arm of broadcast journalism figures in too, doesn't it?

[Winehole23]

the very fact it is posted here is proof positive that such facts are in no way hidden from public scrutiny

[cheguevara]

except the masses don't get their news from the internet news sources

point is the executive order is to prevent the masses from reacting to this :tu

[Winehole23]

there is no executive order

[cheguevara]

there is no executive order

there sure is. And that's a good thing in the end. nobody wants race wars

Except the media and govt should have been responsible in the first place and not make Trayvon case a racial case. they dropped the ball there and are trying to appease the fire they themselves started.

[Winehole23]

lol executive orders that let Pensacola air whatever it wants, against executive orders

[Winehole23]

nm

[cheguevara]

lol executive orders that let Pensacola air whatever it wants, against executive orders

the executive order is issued to the major players. pensacola media ain't no major player.

[Winehole23]

uh huh. still listening.

[BlackSwordsMan]

nvm

[BlackSwordsMan]

I didn't even click the link until now I assumed it was this video.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=627_1335161252

but it wasn't

[TheSkeptic]

Terrible. Simply terrible. :depressed

[cantthinkofanything]

I'm with Che on this one. They fucked up with the treatment of the Travon incident. Cat's out of the bag and going to be hard to put back in. Probably why Zimmerman needs to hang regardless of whether he was within the boundaries of the law in shooting Martin. Of course, if he is found guilty, the over the top celebration by the black community will certainly egg on some racist whites to retaliate.

[GSH]

the very fact it is posted here is proof positive that such facts are in no way hidden from public scrutiny

Nice attempt to deflect - again. But the facts remain: inciting race war is a bad practice, and the mainstream, national media don't touch stories like this.

I guess it's lucky for you that ST exists, or your skills as a fucking idiot might erode.

[clambake]

this guy is a riot. his defensiveness is off the charts!

[Winehole23]

It is lucky for me ST exists. My skills as an idiot might erode.

I am filled with socially appropriate gratitude for avuncular strangers like yourself to administer stern, plain, unvarnished talk from time to time, completely unbidden...

[Winehole23]

to what do I owe the honor, GSH?

[clambake]

to what do I owe the honor, GSH?

dare to question your master?

[Winehole23]

excuse me: a fucking idiot. my skills as a fucking idiot might erode.

[Blake]

Why should the national news run a story on guy that got beat up?

Funny how people seem desperate to find a story to accuse the "national media" of not running.

[Blake]

excuse me: a fucking idiot. my skills as a fucking idiot might erode.

If your skills as an idiot erode, does that mean you are getting worse than an idiot, or does it mean you are getting smarter

[Winehole23]

not sure, not worried

[Winehole23]

Funny how people seem desperate to find a story to accuse the "national media" of not running.minor pastime here

[Blake]

not sure, not worried

I figured as much. Was just curious; thinking out loud

[JudynTX]

one of the attackers allegedly said, "now that's justice for Travon"

So is that going to be the excuse for anytime black people want to beat up on a white person?

Note, the article doesn't mention the race of the attackers. That's only my assumption.

http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/23/man-beaten-mob-critical-condition-ar-3659891/

"allegedly" said.

[Drachen]

not sure, not worried

obviously the reason why your skills as a fucking idiot would erode.

[Winehole23]

I figured as much. Was just curious; thinking out loud"skills as an idiot" may be inherently opaque

[Winehole23]

Why should the national news run a story on guy that got beat up?Status envy, most probably: I am entitled to see my outrage du jour on the network news, too.

[Winehole23]

(I cannot see my own reflection in the media mirror, therefore it is a hypocritical lie)

[resistanze]

Why should the national news run a story on guy that got beat up?

Funny how people seem desperate to find a story to accuse the "national media" of not running.

but but but he said TRAYVON! :cry

[Bill_Brasky]

The reason TM got a lot of attention is because the person that murdered him wasn't being brought to justice.

[Oh, Gee!!]

lemme guess, this is linked on drudge in red.

[DarrinS]

The reason TM got a lot of attention is because the person that murdered him wasn't being brought to justice.

killed

[SnakeBoy]

Of course, if he is found guilty, the over the top celebration by the black community will certainly egg on some racist whites to retaliate.

Over the top celebration in the black community usually involves destroying their own neighborhoods and killing/robbing each other so white retaliation won't be neccessary.

[ChumpDumper]

lol executive order

[rjv]

there sure is. And that's a good thing in the end. nobody wants race wars

Except the media and govt should have been responsible in the first place and not make Trayvon case a racial case. they dropped the ball there and are trying to appease the fire they themselves started.

since i doubt this is a metanarrative, i find this pretty ironic. in fact, it's probably ironic even if intended as a meta 'discourse'.

[Blake]

:lol now the media realizes the repercussions of inciting "race wars". you won't hear this in the national news. the executive order has been issued to silence any of these "incidents" for the foreseable future

lol Fox News disregarding the executive order.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/04/24/police-racially-charged-assault-not-probed-as-hate-crime-despite-witness-claim/

[Trill Clinton]

the plan is slowly coming into fruition....

[FuzzyLumpkins]

excuse me: a fucking idiot. my skills as a fucking idiot might erode.

And you get mad at me for treating him as I do.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm with Che on this one. They fucked up with the treatment of the Travon incident. Cat's out of the bag and going to be hard to put back in. Probably why Zimmerman needs to hang regardless of whether he was within the boundaries of the law in shooting Martin. Of course, if he is found guilty, the over the top celebration by the black community will certainly egg on some racist whites to retaliate.

I really do not know where to begin on this gem.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Mobile police need your help to catch a mob that beat Matthew Owens so badly that he's in critical condition.

According to police, Owens fussed at some kids playing basketball in the middle of Delmar Drive about 8:30 Saturday night. They say the kids left and a group of adults returned, armed with everything but the kitchen sink.

Thats from the local news link above. Does sound pretty ugly but consdiering its Mobile, AL I somehow doubt the 'boys who dun this' are going to get away with it.

[ChumpDumper]

I'm going to assume Owens isn't a saint, but it doesn't look like he did anything to deserve this.

[Blake]

I'm going to assume Owens isn't a saint, but it doesn't look like he did anything to deserve this.

I'm going to bet this really wasn't a mob composed of Black men, women and children looking to avenge Trayvon.

[cantthinkofanything]

I'm going to assume Owens isn't a saint, but it doesn't look like he did anything to deserve this.

maybe you didn't read the story. It's for Travon.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

maybe you didn't read the story. It's for Travon.

i read the story. Apparently Owen said something to a group of kids playing basketball and they went to go get some peeps who came back and beat Owen's half to death.

They weren't watching NBC and just decide to go beat on some whitey.

[Spurminator]

Clearly this was a group of angry MSNBC viewers.

[ChumpDumper]

maybe you didn't read the story. It's for Travon.It's probably not.

[RandomGuy]

um, you didn't say national news, you just said "the media." WKRG is a CBS TV affiliate.

How isn't that a "media" source?

Maybe this media source can tell us if we should be outraged. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194652&page=3)

[Stringer_Bell]

Wow, ya'll people saying this was about Trayvon and part of a race war are wildin' the fuck out. Totally untrue. This shit is about the game of basketball, and how a racist cracker didn't want some boys playing basketball in the neighborood. He didn't want them getting good so they could go to college and make money for their families playing in the NBA.

Don't believe me? See here, he even cut one of the boys on the hand...
http://www2.wkrg.com/news/2012/apr/24/1/attack-on-delmar-drive-neighbors-react-54140-vi-127927/

[Jacob1983]

The point of this story is that if this was incident was a hate crime then it should get attention in the national media. I don't know the colors of the suspects and victims of this incident but if the victim was white and the suspects were black and if one of them said that it was justice for Trayvon then it might be a hate crime.
White people can victims of hate crimes. It would be racist if white people could not be victim of hate crimes. Then again, hate crimes are a joke because they usually trivialize the victim and say that an emotion is a crime. If a person kills someone and it's not self defense, then it's murder. Feelings, emotions, and thoughts don't matter. Why does it matter if the person felt hatred? It's still murder and illegal.

[TheSkeptic]

The point of this story is that if this was incident was a hate crime then it should get attention in the national media. I don't know the colors of the suspects and victims of this incident but if the victim was white and the suspects were black and if one of them said that it was justice for Trayvon then it might be a hate crime.
White people can victims of hate crimes. It would be racist if white people could not be victim of hate crimes. Then again, hate crimes are a joke because they usually trivialize the victim and say that an emotion is a crime. If a person kills someone and it's not self defense, then it's murder. Feelings, emotions, and thoughts don't matter. Why does it matter if the person felt hatred? It's still murder and illegal.

Agreed. I wish there was some way to up the sentencing when the suspect lies though...

That said, being beaten by a mob would be a really frightening way to go imo. The phrase "justice for Trayvon" sounds slightly out of context to me though. Maybe the person who said that was responding to something Owens said? It may not necessarily be a hate crime but there should definitely be jail time involved for everyone who participated.

As much as I applaud your stance I can't fully object to hate laws though because I think they're appropriate for certain groups. Maybe the application just needs to be defined a bit better.

[TheSkeptic]

Over the top celebration in the black community usually involves destroying their own neighborhoods and killing/robbing each other so white retaliation won't be neccessary.

Oh come off it. Does the term "football hooligans" ring a bell with you? :rolleyes

[Wild Cobra]

Even if this had nothing to do with Trayvon...

What would the media reaction be if the white and black of the people involved were reversed? What if it was a large group of white people beating a black man?

[TheSkeptic]

Even if this had nothing to do with Trayvon...

What would the media reaction be if the white and black of the people involved were reversed? What is it was a large group of white people beating a black man?

Why do you care so much about race and the media? Wrong is wrong no matter who's committing the crime. The fact that you can discuss this situation on a message board is proof that someone somewhere did some reporting. Not every story reaches national level. That's not necessarily a conspiracy so much as it is "the breaks".

Depending on where you go, there's a lot of white on black/black on white violence that goes without any mentions. The US is a big country and I'm sure you can dig up all kinds of terrible crimes committed by someone belonging to any demographic you choose on a daily basis. Facts are that most people aren't criminals and are simply trying to get through life the best they can. Using this is an opportunity to take digs at the media and demonize black people as a whole is exactly the kind of one-dimensional thinking that's effectively preventing America from moving forward.

Let's just keep this man in our prayers and hope that the police find and charge whoever did this. It looks like they have some solid leads to work with.

[Wild Cobra]

Why do you care so much about race and the media? Wrong is wrong no matter who's committing the crime. The fact that you can discuss this situation on a message board is proof that someone somewhere did some reporting. Not every story reaches national level. That's not necessarily a conspiracy so much as it is "the breaks".

Depending on where you go, there's a lot of white on black/black on white violence that goes without any mentions. The US is a big country and I'm sure you can dig up all kinds of terrible crimes committed by someone belonging to any demographic you choose on a daily basis. Facts are that most people aren't criminals and are simply trying to get through life the best they can. Using this is an opportunity to take digs at the media and demonize black people as a whole is exactly the kind of one-dimensional thinking that's effectively preventing America from moving forward.

Let's just keep this man in our prayers and hope that the police find and charge whoever did this. It looks like they have some solid leads to work with.
I'm just sick and tired of the way the media does things. I'm pissed because you're right in that wrong is wrong. The media shouldn't pick favorites, especially based on race. They just ad fuel to a fire we all want to see extinguished.

Wouldn't it be nice to live in a colorblind society?

[Blake]

The point of this story is that if this was incident was a hate crime then it should get attention in the national media.

It's not being treated as a hate crime.

[Blake]

Even if this had nothing to do with Trayvon...

What would the media reaction be if the white and black of the people involved were reversed? What is it was a large group of white people beating a black man?

It's your straw, what do you think the media reaction would be?

[Wild Cobra]

It's your straw, what do you think the media reaction would be?
See: Rhetorical Question.

[elbamba]

White guy gets beat up by a bunch of blake people and all we care about is whether the media reports the story.

I get the outrage due to the way the Martin story was presented by some of the media, but seriously, its pretty said when the news becomes if, when and how the news is reported.

[Blake]

See: Rhetorical Question.

It's not a rhetorical question

[Blake]

White guy gets beat up by a bunch of blake people....

Hate crime, tbh.

[Trill Clinton]

Hate crime, tbh.
:lol

[TheSkeptic]

I'm just sick and tired of the way the media does things. I'm pissed because you're right in that wrong is wrong. The media shouldn't pick favorites, especially based on race. They just ad fuel to a fire we all want to see extinguished.

Wouldn't it be nice to live in a colorblind society?

I hear you WC. I really do. From the outside looking in, I find the US media very manipulative when it comes to areas I know something about like Public Policy or Economics. It honestly does not give me a good feeling when I see the way some people will swallow everything they hear from these stations.

The reason why they add fuel to the fire, imo, is partially a reflection of society today. It looks like they're inflaming the emotions and keeping people's attention that way. Not a lot of viewers want to hear substantive discussion on the ins and outs of the government's latest budget proposal for example so they'll operate through emotional appeals. They have to make their money somehow after all.

A colorblind society would be good but I think we're still a few generations away from that tbh. Prejudice and destructive tendencies only fade with time and increased exposure. We're getting there though.

[Trill Clinton]

WC are you this frustrated with the media when everytime a child is missing it's a WHITE FEMALE they show?!!!

[Oh, Gee!!]

no matter how much they bitch about the fairness doctrine, conservatives want their own version of it when it comes to reporting race-related issues (esp. crime)

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm just sick and tired of the way the media does things. I'm pissed because you're right in that wrong is wrong. The media shouldn't pick favorites, especially based on race. They just ad fuel to a fire we all want to see extinguished.

Wouldn't it be nice to live in a colorblind society?

Sure, but you don't trust people that are black and you justify that view because of 'statistics.' I think any newscast that doesn't paint black men as felons would be unfair in WC world.

[Wild Cobra]

WC are you this frustrated with the media when everytime a child is missing it's a WHITE FEMALE they show?!!!
I don't care for any of the bias we see.

[cantthinkofanything]

I don't care for any of the bias we see.

Agreed. That being said, it's worser when a white girl missing.