Ron Artest Suspended Seven Games

[timvp]

It's good to be a Laker, tbh.

[Cry Havoc]

Wow. Less than 10 is unbelievable. He gets to rest for the 2nd round.

[DeadlyDynasty]

God is Good.

[vander]

so he can come back to play against the Thunder

Drama

[dylankerouac]

It is ridiculous that it has taken this long for some feedback from Stern/The League. It is greater than five games, whoopee I guess. I hope there was a fine too,though I guess he loses money by simply not being able to play.

[Brazil]

the Lakers will not make through the first round anyway... his season is over

[MmP]

I guess this is tied to Harden recovering, yet not cleared but still it didn't get serious. If not he would have get more.

[Mel_13]

Stern and the league will now be co-defendants in the lawsuit filed by the person or persons harmed by Artest's next bad act.

[DeadlyDynasty]

so he can come back to play against the Thunder

Drama

yup, first game back will be against Harden.

Harden's PTSD will trigger once he sees MWP:lol

[timvp]

I like how Artest is now available for a pivotal Game 7 in the first round.

Quality troll job, tbh :tu

[Obstructed_View]

:lol

[GSH]

ANY decision that Stern came up with was going to get flamed by a bunch of people. Personally, I would have been disappointed with 5. I would have cringed at 12, but seen the justice in it. And, as Mel pointed out, more than 12 would have left it open to arbitration. (I'm sure any indefinite number of games would have, also.)

I presume they will have MWP, and hopefully the entire Lakers team, on a short leash for the playoffs, even after he comes back. But - the one thing I would REALLY hate to see is for the Lakers to be struggling, and then he returns and gets to play hero. That would be a bit stomach-turning.

I noticed that they said that he was suspended for the next 7 games where he was eligible and fit to play. What's that about? Maybe they will force him to undergo a psych evaluation, and declare him unfit to play for a while. That way they could make sure he doesn't return for this post-season, and still has to sit a defined number of games for the elbow. Could they do that?

[benefactor]

so he can come back to play against the Thunder

Drama
Vander with rare goods.

They have to get him back by the series with OKC. It will be huge for ratings.

[timvp]

From a Spurs perspective, this is good news. Artest available to rough up the Thunder is ideal.

As an NBA fan, this sets a dangerous precedence. Now it's known that even if you throw the world's hardest elbow at the head of another player, the worst that can happen to you is a two week vacation. And probably less than that since no one else has Artest's history.

[Old School 44]

Weak response from the league. It shouldn't matter who it is that got hurt, a person's career is at stake. If Harden misses significant time and OKC loses, then what are you saying to the goons in the league? Just like the law, repeat offenders should have more severe punishment. I say he should have been suspended for the rest of the year, including playoffs, and ten games into next year!

[dunkman]

They could have suspended him for the entire playoffs since its not going to cost him money.

[DeadlyDynasty]

If you're Tina, don't provoke Ike. Fair punishment all things considered.

[Cane]

Ron helped bury some bodies for Stern and the NBA

But tbh this punishment seems about in line with the rest of the incidents this year like Love 'face stomping' Scola

[GSH]

If you're Tina, don't provoke Ike. Fair punishment all things considered.


If you're JFK, don't provoke Oswald? One guy doing his job, and the other a head case.

Stupid fucking thing to say.

[Obstructed_View]

If Harden misses significant time and OKC loses, then what are you saying to the goons in the league?


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[baseline bum]

More than I expected, real talk.

[Mugen]

Sounds about right.

They're not getting past the 2nd round with or without Ron Ron anyways.

Wouldn't be surprised if he ends Game 1 of the WCSF beating up some OKC fans in the stands.

[jestersmash]

Lakersground is going ballistic. They sincerely thought he only deserved 1 or 2 games.

[pgardn]

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omg this is fantastic

[MB3//]

So he's going to be out for the first 2 games of next season?

[DeadlyDynasty]

If you're JFK, don't provoke Oswald? One guy doing his job, and the other a head case.

Stupid fucking thing to say.

Hey, you have a problem with something Stern or the Refs have done...What a shocker!

Would you knowingly get in the face of a psycho when it's not necessary whatsoever?

[Mugen]

Hey, you have a problem with something Stern or the Refs have done...What a shocker!

Would you knowingly get in the face of a psycho when it's not necessary whatsoever?

rascal would.

[Dr. John R. Brinkley]

Stern and the league will now be co-defendants in the lawsuit filed by the person or persons harmed by Artest's next bad act.


Possible, but that sounds a bit over the top.

[Pocket Hippo]

The money per game isn't the same in the playoffs as it is in the regular season, depending on how much Artest makes per game that one regular season game may be worth more than 6 playoff games money wise.
I am going to write Bonner a letter encouraging him to learn how to Frankensteiner people. I will trade seven games without Bonner to see Bynum get Frankensteinerd lol.
too bad we are too classy for that

[SA210]

If you're JFK, don't provoke Oswald? One guy doing his job, and the other a head case.

Stupid fucking thing to say.

Oswald didn't do it lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

rascal would.

:lolI saw his quote

Real talk though, what MWP did was deplorable...but at the same time this guy is a known volatile psychopath. You can bet your ass Harden won't be frontin' in the WCSF.

Dude needs to stick to being a baller. I'm a big fan of his, but don't poke the bear.

[lurker23]

Generally what I expected. After reading everything and what previous punishments were, I was expecting in the 5-10 game range. Seven games is more than any other incident involving elbows or hard hits on the court, which is appropriate considering this was worse than any previous incidents in the last decade or so. I wish they had given him 8 games, so that he was guaranteed to miss the entire first round, but the odds that any given series goes 7 games is relatively slim.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Oswald didn't do it lol

truth

[mingus]

Seven games?

Business wise, it is perfect. It ensures he'll be back for the drama-filled OKC series (should it happen). But there's a chance it may backfire for Stern and the NBA in the long run because it sets the precedent that you can ruthlessly try and seriously injure someone and not be heavily penalized for it, and the fingers will get pointed at Stern and the NBAs image will suffer. Stern taking a risk and also showing (as if he had not before) that he is all about the money.

[Mugen]

:lolI saw his quote

Real talk though, what MWP did was deplorable...but at the same time this guy is a known volatile psychopath. You can bet your ass Harden won't be frontin' in the WCSF.

Dude needs to stick to being a baller. I'm a big fan of his, but don't poke the bear.

It'll definitely be good TV.

I honestly think there's about a 25% chance MWP ends Game 1 of the OKC series in the stands punching inbred honkies.

[easjer]

About what I expected, and fair, in my personal opinion - given other, similar punishments in the league. I'm not sure why anyone is surprised. They were never going to suspend him more than 12 games when the rest of their punishments for similar incidents have been around 2 games up to 5 games for deliberate actions. Given his history, he got more than the last big suspension for intentional harm to another player. This was the likeliest outcome.

[GSH]

Hey, you have a problem with something Stern or the Refs have done...What a shocker!

Would you knowingly get in the face of a psycho when it's not necessary whatsoever?


I don't have a big problem with what Stern did. I have a problem with you blaming the victim. I guess if I was your next door neighbor, I would just fuck with you constantly, and you wouldn't do anything about it because you wouldn't want to provoke me.

There are some Laker fans who come here who are pretty rational. You aren't one. SAC is beating the shit out of OKC, and UTA-PHX is on later. You bore me.

[DeadlyDynasty]

that he is all about the money.

At the end of the day it's a business. More money=league growth.

Everybody wins.

[Mugen]

The neutral fan in me thought 2-5 games. The Spurs fan in me wanted him strapped to the chair. So 7 seems pretty fair.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I don't have a big problem with what Stern did. I have a problem with you blaming the victim. I guess if I was your next door neighbor, I would just fuck with you constantly, and you wouldn't do anything about it because you wouldn't want to provoke me.

There are some Laker fans who come here who are pretty rational. You aren't one. SAC is beating the shit out of OKC, and UTA-PHX is on later. You bore me.

You are a whining idiot, and the other 2 times I called you out for that you ran and hid behind the "you bore me" schtick. You're a whiner. You whine. It's what you're about.

I already denounced MWP's actions, but you're acting like Harden (who some spurfans have rightfully said is a chippy player) played no part.

"Hey, there's a psychopath who's beating his chest like a madman...I got a great idea, let's get in his face!"

[pgardn]

If you're JFK, don't provoke Oswald? One guy doing his job, and the other a head case.

Stupid fucking thing to say.

That head case got shot by another head case. Remember Ruby...

So maybe Perkins is due to swallow Artest head first. Perkins looks like he should be hungry, lost a lot of weight.

[TD 21]

From a Spurs perspective, this is good news. Artest available to rough up the Thunder is ideal.

As an NBA fan, this sets a dangerous precedence. Now it's known that even if you throw the world's hardest elbow at the head of another player, the worst that can happen to you is a two week vacation. And probably less than that since no one else has Artest's history.

Yep. What's to stop a team from intentionally attempting to eliminate a key piece of a team they could meet up with in the playoffs? 7 games is well worth it to potentially eliminate a would be contender's chance at contending. Just send out some scrub who's not in the rotation and have them do the dirty work, then pay their lost wages.

Could you imagine if someone did this to one of the Lakers stars? They probably would have been done for the season, particularly if they thought there was any chance said star would be done for the season.

[T Park]

anything less than a year is a disgrace.

Shouldn't be surprised of this reaction from this shit league.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

It's good to be a Laker, tbh.

So, it carries into next season, then. :lol

[Mugen]

Could you imagine if someone did this to one of the Lakers stars? They probably would have been done for the season, particularly if they thought there was any chance said star would be done for the season.

I've imagined this scenario many times. But in my imagination, they ban Bonner for life for the murder of Andrew Bynum, tbh.

You musn't be afraid to dream a lil bigger, darling.

[Man In Black]

Let's see...not available for 6 games AND the LAL have not 1 or 2 but 3 small forwards with injuries.

They may not make it out if Dallas gets to 6 or if Den can harness their depth the way SA does.

[Fabbs]

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nicely done

[pgardn]

:l
Dude needs to stick to being a baller. I'm a big fan of his, but don't poke the bear.

I saw Ben Wallace "poke the bear". And the bear did pee all over himself.

Artest is a punk. Punks dont go after people who might destroy their face.

[GrandeDavid]

From a Spurs perspective, this is good news. Artest available to rough up the Thunder is ideal.

As an NBA fan, this sets a dangerous precedence. Now it's known that even if you throw the world's hardest elbow at the head of another player, the worst that can happen to you is a two week vacation. And probably less than that since no one else has Artest's history.

Spot on analysis, my friend. You're a talented man, LJ. I get my Spurs news from you instead of the local fishwrap. Keep it up, dawg. I agree that it's a dangerous precedent and it's absolutely disrespectful to the victim, also. What a joke.

[Obstructed_View]

:lolI saw his quote

Real talk though, what MWP did was deplorable...but at the same time this guy is a known volatile psychopath. You can bet your ass Harden won't be frontin' in the WCSF.

Dude needs to stick to being a baller. I'm a big fan of his, but don't poke the bear.

As I mentioned at the time, Harden went up to crowd him thinking he'd get a cheap one or maybe flop or flail and draw a whistle.

Whups.

[Libri]

Wondering what kind of infraction it would be if someone did the same thing outside of the gym.

[ducks]

ducks was right 7 games
damm I am so smart

[DeadlyDynasty]

I saw Ben Wallace "poke the bear". And the bear did pee all over himself.

Artest is a punk. Punks dont go after people who might destroy their face.

Ben Wallace is bigger and stronger than Artest, and just as thug...What did Ben have to fear, dumbass?

James Harden is faux-tough and smaller than Ron.

[pgardn]

Wondering what kind of infraction it would be if someone did the same thing outside of the gym.

Mis. assault.

[DeadlyDynasty]

As I mentioned at the time, Harden went up to crowd him thinking he'd get a cheap one or maybe flop or flail and draw a whistle.

Whups.

yup. He didn't deserve an elbow to the head, but he definitely opened the door for one.

[pgardn]

Ben Wallace is bigger and stronger than Artest, and just as thug...What did Ben have to fear, dumbass?

James Harden is faux-tough and smaller than Ron.

Oh he had to fear a bear dumb fuck.

[buttsR4rebounding]

It's good to be a mentally handicapped sociopath....and a Laker

Redundant...REDRUM! REDRUM!

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

No big deal. Lakers will be lucky to get past the 1st round anyways.

[TE]

:hat Stern just doing the things needed to be done to gain as much money to make up the huge profit loss of a postseason that will consist of a Spurs championship run.



Nothing new to be seen here.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Oh he had to fear a bear dumb fuck.

The analogy went way over your head. Go back to your shitty, unspectacular basketball takes as usual.

[venitian navigator]

Stern and the league will now be co-defendants in the lawsuit filed by the person or persons harmed by Artest's next bad act.

Well, I totally agree.
By the league, this answer to the player's behavior, and expecially to a player with his history is totally unresponsible.
Any lawyer in any state could claim they're totally co-responsible for enabling to play someone that was clearly out of control of his reactions.
But the worst part is that the main thing that they should have avoided is the chance that he could have played in this year's play offs against the Thunders.
At this point I just hope that Lakers or Thunder are not gonna play such series in these play offs.
Otherwise, what kind of behavior should e expect from the players, and particularly Harden, of the Thunder's team any time they face Artest presence on the court ?
They should just avoid contacts with Artest (I refuse to call him agin World Peace) just 'cause they will be scared of any consequence of touching him ?

Imho, considering his history, he deserved to be banned.
But the league had at least the chance to avoid to let him play against the Thunders giving him the max games suspension (12) possible without the chance to be appelled to an arbitration.
The league decided for the exact opposite solution.
This is, I repeat, unexcusable by the league.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Btw, I've made a prayer request for you all on Godvine. Please pray with me, brothers.

[T Park]

Wondering what kind of infraction it would be if someone did the same thing outside of the gym.

assault

[pgardn]

The analogy went way over your head. Go back to your shitty, unspectacular basketball takes as usual.

Dont give me this sociopath BS dickhead when he chooses fights he can win. He is out of control, but he is also a cowardly punk.

[T Park]

yup. He didn't deserve an elbow to the head, but he definitely opened the door for one.

about the same mentally retarded justification for a rapist "Well her skirt was short and she was asking for it"

[Venti Quattro]

Dont give me this sociopath BS dickhead when he chooses fights he can win. He is out of control, but he is also a cowardly punk.

That's not cowardly, that's not being stupid. Why would you fight just to show how tough you are?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Dont give me this sociopath BS dickhead when he chooses fights he can win. He is out of control, but he is also a cowardly punk.

MWP didn't run up to Harden, dumbass. You're having a difficult time with this.

[DeadlyDynasty]

about the same mentally retarded justification for a rapist "Well her skirt was short and she was asking for it"

Thanks, we haven't heard that analogy 500 times already. Stop being such a sensitive, simple pussy. You don't fuck with people who are crazy unless you're strapped or you know you can kick their ass.

and yes, if your daughter wants to dress like a whore in public, she has to know that not all the people she's attracting are mentally stable. It's common sense.


btw, congrats to the Blues.

[honestfool84]

So he's going to be out for the first 2 games of next season?

yes.

[Libri]

Mis. assault.


assault

Thanks

[Mugen]

about the same mentally retarded justification for a rapist "Well her skirt was short and she was asking for it"

How short we talkin?

[pgardn]

That's not cowardly, that's not being stupid. Why would you fight just to show how tough you are?

A psychotic sociopath would not know the difference Einstein.

He is a coward. He avoids altercations when he is frightened. Dont make him out to be some bad ass that has no fear when he chooses his "fights" with prudence.

[GSH]

BTW - Kobe was stupid for provoking Artest in this playoff game. The refs should have just let Ron beat the shit out of him.

“I went over there with the intention of telling Kobe, you’re hitting the wrong person. Don’t you know you’re hitting Ron Artest?”

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2009/05/kobe-gets-tough-artest-gets-angry-and-the-nba-makes-its-decisions-with-morning-hoops-links/

Funny how Lakerfans wanted Artest punished for that incident, but not this one. And that time, it was Kobe throwing the elbow. All Artest did was run toward him.

[Spurs4#5]

well we now know the lakers will win the first round in 6

[DeadlyDynasty]

BTW - Kobe was stupid for provoking Artest in this playoff game. The refs should have just let Ron beat the shit out of him.

“I went over there with the intention of telling Kobe, you’re hitting the wrong person. Don’t you know you’re hitting Ron Artest?”

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2009/05/kobe-gets-tough-artest-gets-angry-and-the-nba-makes-its-decisions-with-morning-hoops-links/

Funny how Lakerfans wanted Artest punished for that incident, but not this one. And that time, it was Kobe throwing the elbow. All Artest did was run toward him.

Why didn't Ron throw an elbow at that point?

[T Park]

Thanks, we haven't heard that analogy 500 times already. Stop being such a sensitive, simple pussy. You don't fuck with people who are crazy unless you're strapped or you know you can kick their ass.

and yes, if your daughter wants to dress like a whore in public, she has to know that not all the people she's attracting are mentally stable. It's common sense.


btw, congrats to the Blues.

justifying violent assault is one of the more disgusting things Ive seen.

and thanks.

[DeadlyDynasty]

justifying violent assault is one of the more disgusting things Ive seen.

and thanks.

Asking for it is one of the more idiotic things I've seen.

your welcome. Go Panthers.

[pgardn]

justifying violent assault is one of the more disgusting things Ive seen.

and thanks.

But he is crazy.

Yet he is smart enough to pick "fights" he can win. Lakerfan wants him to be some tough guy thats nuts when he is an enormously strong coward.

[gilmor]

From a Spurs perspective, this is good news. Artest available to rough up the Thunder is ideal.

As an NBA fan, this sets a dangerous precedence. Now it's known that even if you throw the world's hardest elbow at the head of another player, the worst that can happen to you is a two week vacation. And probably less than that since no one else has Artest's history.

NBA is the only place where you can seriously hurt someone and get away with it.

In my country, you are looking at jail term of at least 6 months.

[DeadlyDynasty]

In my country

no one cares

[Legacy]

If you're Tina, don't provoke Ike. Fair punishment all things considered.



And you're actually a mod on this forum? OUR forum? Another fucken' joke/headcase we have here, folks. Craptastic.

[DeadlyDynasty]

But he is crazy.

Yet he is smart enough to pick "fights" he can win. Lakerfan wants him to be some tough guy thats nuts when he is an enormously strong coward.

You're a very dumb, unobservant human being. James Harden ran up to MWP while he was out of his mind--MWP didn't seek him out to fight with him.

Please, stop posting.

[DeadlyDynasty]

And you're actually a mod on this forum? OUR forum? Another fucken' joke/headcase we have here, folks. Craptastic.

There's only 2 mods on this forum. One's a Spur fan and one's a closet Lakerfan. Hope that helps.

[Spurs4#5]

tomorrow im going to elbow my co-worker in the head so i can get a week vacation

[SA210]

anything less than a year is a disgrace.

Shouldn't be surprised of this reaction from this shit league.

Hell has frozen over, We agree

:wow

[Venti Quattro]

tomorrow im going to elbow my co-worker in the head so i can get a week vacation

I hope your boss isn't David Stern so they can get your stupid ass fired. One more vacant slot for the American workforce vacated by an idiot.

[angelbelow]

I was personally expecting around 10 games. 7 is fair but on the side of lenient.

[Legacy]

There's only 2 mods on this forum. One's a Spur fan and one's a closet Lakerfan. Hope that helps.



Well, someone needs to act like they are a "mod." Fucken' RIDONKULOUS. The End. Now you can continue to cause more drama and continue with the bonehead posts. Makes everyone here happy, I guess.

[Spurs4#5]

I hope your boss isn't David Stern so they can get your stupid ass fired. One more vacant slot for the American workforce vacated by an idiot.
no dumbass...its sarcasm...not only would i get fired for doing that i would probably be arrested

[DeadlyDynasty]

Well, someone needs to act like they are a "mod." Fucken' RIDONKULOUS. The End. Now you can continue to cause more drama and continue with the bonehead posts. Makes everyone here happy, I guess.

Harlem?:lol

[Obstructed_View]

You're a very dumb, unobservant human being. James Harden ran up to MWP while he was out of his mind--MWP didn't seek him out to fight with him.

Please, stop posting.

Harden didn't run up to Metta to fight with him either. He did something NBA players do in virtually every game. There's simply no justification in the world for what Metta did. He could have pushed him and said "oh sorry" and made a case for it. Nobody who watches that in slow motion can possibly justify it.

[pgardn]

You're a very dumb, unobservant human being. James Harden ran up to MWP while he was out of his mind--MWP didn't seek him out to fight with him.

Please, stop posting.

You just got called out with your cluttered reasoning. He is psychotic but he is not.

So call me dumb and be done with it.

I could claim that Harden was trying to draw contact and push off to receive the inbounds. You think Harden was purposely trying to get in Artest's face? How do you know? I certainly dont, but I could argue what I typed above. I could see that happening as well.

If you are actually a mod... Well, I hope the person that put you in that position reads your posts.

[TheSkeptic]

Man. Way too lenient and Artest would also be back against OKC. I just don't understand how they can't appreciate that Harden was lucky and take this as a sign that Artest is a loose cannon. When he causes another serious injury/if Harden suffers any long-term effects from this, the NBA needs to be sued. This is incredibly irresponsible.

[shyne]

The nfl and the nba need to switch commish.

[TE]

:corn:

[DeadlyDynasty]

You just got called out with your cluttered reasoning. He is psychotic but he is not.

So call me dumb and be done with it.

I could claim that Harden was trying to draw contact and push off to receive the inbounds. You think Harden was purposely trying to get in Artest's face? How do you know? I certainly dont, but I could argue what I typed above. I could see that happening as well.

If you are actually a mod... Well, I hope the person that put you in that position reads your posts.

Please explain how my reasoning is cluttered. Be detailed, let's hear it.

James Harden ran up to MWP when he was going out of his mind and tried to pick up a cheap foul on a madman, with some bullshit. Artest gave Ben Wallace a hard foul (was not going crazy at the moment when it happened), and Wallace (who is bigger) went after him.

Are you REALLY comparing those 2 incidents? If you are, you're a mongoloid and should kill yourself with a hammer.

I'm not a mod, b/c if I was I would pink your ass for how stupid you are.

[Mugen]

Not sure if it makes the outraged feel better but you're not gonna have to worry about Ron Ron hurting anybody past the 2nd round.

[rascal]

From a Spurs perspective, this is good news. Artest available to rough up the Thunder is ideal.

As an NBA fan, this sets a dangerous precedence. Now it's known that even if you throw the world's hardest elbow at the head of another player, the worst that can happen to you is a two week vacation. And probably less than that since no one else has Artest's history.

Artest won't be roughing anyone up. He knows he is on a short leash now.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Not sure if it makes the outraged feel better but you're not gonna have to worry about Ron Ron hurting anybody past the 2nd round.

Yup, OKC will work them

[LakerHater]

KoMe is back so it dont matter cuz MWP wont see any touches!

[Venti Quattro]

KoMe is back so it dont matter cuz MWP wont see any touches!

:lmao great insight :lmao

[Budkin]

All Laker fans are saying it's way too many and non Laker fans say it's way too few... who would have guessed that.

[Brazil]

Please explain how my reasoning is cluttered. Be detailed, let's hear it.

James Harden ran up to MWP when he was going out of his mind and tried to pick up a cheap foul on a madman, with some bullshit. Artest gave Ben Wallace a hard foul (was not going crazy at the moment when it happened), and Wallace (who is bigger) went after him.

Are you REALLY comparing those 2 incidents? If you are, you're a mongoloid and should kill yourself with a hammer.

I'm not a mod, b/c if I was I would pink your ass for how stupid you are.

what is your point DD ? Harden deserved it because he ran up to MWP ? even if true, does that make what Artest less despicable ?

[Brazil]

All Laker fans are saying it's way too many and non Laker fans say it's way too few... who would have guessed that.

I dont think only spurs fans think its way too few

What do you think of Metta World Peace's seven-game suspsension?

9%Too long
65%Too short
26%Just right
Total Votes: 4253

[TheSkeptic]

All Laker fans are saying it's way too many and non Laker fans say it's way too few... who would have guessed that.

Fan-based hypocrisy. Simply sickening imo.


what is your point DD ? Harden deserved it because he ran up to MWP ? even if true, does that make what Artest less despicable ?

I don't know. That version of events makes Artest look even more psychotic though.

[DeadlyDynasty]

what is your point DD ? Harden deserved it because he ran up to MWP ? even if true, does that make what Artest less despicable ?

My point is that Harden's not the innocent wittle:cry victim who played no part in it. What MWP did was despicable, AS I ALREADY STATED EARLIER, but Harden is known to be a chippy player who tried ran at Ron and tried to pick up a cheap foul while he was going apeshit. Everybody knows how volatile Ron is, so why would you fuck with him when he's in a frenzied state--especially if your a small guy like Harden?

[pgardn]

A psychotic sociopath would not know the difference Einstein.

He is a coward. He avoids altercations when he is frightened. Dont make him out to be some bad ass that has no fear when he chooses his "fights" with prudence.

So once again. Your claim that he is insane and cannot help himself is not justified. This was after your Ben Wallace "he knows wallace is bigger and stronger" claim .


There are only so many times I can repeat the same thing.

As far as Harden seeking out Artest for an altercation, read my last post. Please note fight is in quotes.

It is not my fault if you cannot understand your own fallacious arguments.
In other words, I cant help your stupidity, blame your sociopathic behavior. Since you know so much about it.

[Mugen]

Looking at the replay from as neutral as perspective as possible:

-I think Harden was trying to draw a tech or something cuz he knew Metta was pumped after that dunk. Harden is known as a talker and a guy that tries to get under people's skin. I think he forgot that Ron Artest is a certifiable crazy person. He has ZERO control over his actions.

-I think if Kendrick does what James did, i still think Metta throws the elbow because like i said, he has zero control when prodded. That said, Kendrick would work Metta. There's not many guys i'd take in a fight over Artest but Kendrick is one of them.

-Those saying that this is setting a dangerous precedent in the NBA...calm down. Nobodys gonna start injuring other guys on purpose. There's been dirty fouls before with lighter penalties. Guys aren't going to all of a sudden turn into Tonya Hardings because Metta only got 7 games. Too much media fallout and not a lot of guys want the rep of being "dirty."

-There's very few people in the league that you want to mess with and Ron is one of them. He's crazy. This is common sense. If you want to really stick it to him, just light him up when he's guarding you because he's not that great of a defensive player anymore. But don't do ticky tack shit and then be surprised when you get a elbow to the head.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I also didn't say his punishment was too much...please find where I did if you have evidence to the contrary.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Looking at the replay from as neutral as perspective as possible:

-I think Harden was trying to draw a tech or something cuz he knew Metta was pumped after that dunk. Harden is known as a talker and a guy that tries to get under people's skin. I think he forgot that Ron Artest is a certifiable crazy person. He has ZERO control over his actions.

-I think if Kendrick does what James did, i still think Metta throws the elbow because like i said, he has zero control when prodded. That said, Kendrick would work Metta. There's not many guys i'd take in a fight over Artest but Kendrick is one of them.

-Those saying that this is setting a dangerous precedent in the NBA...calm down. Nobodys gonna start injuring other guys on purpose. There's been dirty fouls before with lighter penalties. Guys aren't going to all of a sudden turn into Tonya Hardings because Metta only got 7 games. Too much media fallout and not a lot of guys want the rep of being "dirty."

-There's very few people in the league that you want to mess with and Ron is one of them. He's crazy. This is common sense. If you want to really stick it to him, just light him up when he's guarding you because he's not that great of a defensive player anymore. But don't do ticky tack shit and then be surprised when you get a elbow to the head.

EXACTLY...people like pgardn are too fucking stupid to grasp this, and resort to moving the goalposts (Malice at the Palace)...what's sad is he got owned in THAT argument too. Clown doesn't even remember what happened that night yet he's trying to cite it.

[TheSkeptic]

^^ Though it does beg the question of what's a guy with no impulse control doing on the court? If anything that solidifies what some of us are saying which is that Artest puts other players at risk simply because he does snap violently and have moments when he's not fully there. This goes beyond fandom and into the territory of protecting people from injuries. If I were a Laker fan I would want him off my team.

[DeadlyDynasty]

So once again. Your claim that he is insane and cannot help himself is not justified. This was after your Ben Wallace "he knows wallace is bigger and stronger" claim .


There are only so many times I can repeat the same thing.

As far as Harden seeking out Artest for an altercation, read my last post. Please note fight is in quotes.

It is not my fault if you cannot understand your own fallacious arguments.
In other words, I cant help your stupidity, blame your sociopathic behavior. Since you know so much about it.

Do you even know where you're going with this right now? Seriously?

-I said MWP is a psycho (common knowledge) who was in a frenzied state when Harden ran up to him (not the other way around, you stupid pile of fuck).

-You moved the goalposts and said (paraphrased) "well if MWP's such a bad-ass then how come he didn't go at Ben Wallace and kick his ass!"-- despite the fact that Wallace is BIGGER, STRONGER, and was 10x as mad at the time because he's the one who was fouled.

-You continue to spin in circles.

Don't talk about events you clearly have no recollection of.

[DeadlyDynasty]

^^ Though it does beg the question of what's a guy with no impulse control doing on the court? If anything that solidifies what some of us are saying which is that Artest puts other players at risk simply because he does snap violently and have moments when he's not fully there. This goes beyond fandom and into the territory of protecting people from injuries. If I were a Laker fan I would want him off my team.

That's a different story altogether. If you fuck with somebody at any emotional peak bad stuff can happen. If you fuck with a psycho on an emotional high, who knows.

[Mugen]

^^ Though it does beg the question of what's a guy with no impulse control doing on the court? If anything that solidifies what some of us are saying which is that Artest puts other players at risk simply because he does snap violently and have moments when he's not fully there. This goes beyond fandom and into the territory of protecting people from injuries. If I were a Laker fan I would want him off my team.

The league let Karl Malone play for 20 years. And i consider that POS to be 10x dirtier than Ron Artest.

[pgardn]

EXACTLY...people like pgardn are too fucking stupid to grasp this, and resort to moving the goalposts (Malice at the Palace)...what's sad is he got owned in THAT argument too. Clown doesn't even remember what happened that night yet he's trying to cite it.

He got punked by Wallace. He was still upset. Fan threw a beer on him. Fan is not Ben, go after the fan.

Harden... Throw a high elbow. Let Lakerfan claim insanity so its Harden's fault for provoking the incident.

IS IT POSSIBLE HARDEN WAS LOOKING FOR ARTEST TO MOVE OFF HIM FOR THE INBOUNDS PASS?

Who needs to put a pie in his face?

[Brazil]

My point is that Harden's not the innocent wittle:cry victim who played no part in it. What MWP did was despicable, AS I ALREADY STATED EARLIER, but Harden is known to be a chippy player who tried ran at Ron and tried to pick up a cheap foul while he was going apeshit. Everybody knows how volatile Ron is, so why would you fuck with him when he's in a frenzied state--especially if your a small guy like Harden?

not saying that Harden is an angel but he is a nice talent with no bad reputation. I remember him going after kobe last year but I think kobe started talking shit to him and he stood up, good move in my book showing he is not soft.

You are right he is just crazy and dumb so no need to go after him but on the other hand, when he starts doing crazy stuff if the opponent doesn't step up we immediately accuse him to be soft.

At the end of the day, if the dude cannot control himself he has no room playing professional bb.

and be honest if jax does the same to kobe, you will be all over the board saying jax should be banned for life.

[pgardn]

The league let Karl Malone play for 20 years. And i consider that POS to be 10x dirtier than Ron Artest.

That was very bad.

So Stern made clear we would not return to the good old days. Remember why the bench rule was started, that actually might have aided us in beating Phoenix. Too much crap was going on and people were sick of it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

He got punked by Wallace. He was still upset. Fan threw a beer on him. Fan is not Ben, go after the fan.

Harden... Throw a high elbow. Let Lakerfan claim insanity so its Harden's fault for provoking the incident.

IS IT POSSIBLE HARDEN WAS LOOKING FOR ARTEST TO MOVE OFF HIM FOR THE INBOUNDS PASS?

Who needs to put a pie in his face?

Like i said, stop posting. The hole is only getting deeper.

[DeadlyDynasty]

not saying that Harden is an angel but he is a nice talent with no bad reputation. I remember him going after kobe last year but I think kobe started talking shit to him and he stood up, good move in my book showing he is not soft.

You are right he is just crazy and dumb so no need to go after him but on the other hand, when he starts doing crazy stuff if the opponent doesn't step up we immediately accuse him to be soft.

At the end of the day, if the dude cannot control himself he has no room playing professional bb.

and be honest if jax does the same to kobe, you will be all over the board saying jax should be banned for life.


Nobody would call anybody soft for avoiding him. He was in his own world pounding his chest and going apeshit--not playing the inbounds pass or something else. He was out of his mind and in another world--there was absolutely no necessary reason to engage him at that point.

[TheSkeptic]

That's a different story altogether. If you fuck with somebody at any emotional peak bad stuff can happen. If you fuck with a psycho on an emotional high, who knows.

He can plead insanity all he wants. Artest's reaction was over the top and if players can't talk trash or bump into him while he's celebrating for fear of being concussed then he needs to be out of the league. Blaming Harden is a red herring here.

They should've forced him out for the remainder so that he could get another mental evaluation in the offseason. Hopefully the Lakers get knocked out before his suspension is over.


The league let Karl Malone play for 20 years. And i consider that POS to be 10x dirtier than Ron Artest.

They probably should've done more about Karl Malone. That said, Artest is clearly deficient on some level and the NBA had a prime opportunity to avoid making the same mistakes as before.

[pgardn]

Like i said, stop posting. The hole is only getting deeper.

So he is sane in the Ben Wallace incident when he goes after the crowd, and insane for the Harden incident. Lakerfan is in Ron's head, knows when he is crazy and when he is not. I call that convenient.


I got it...

[Mugen]

Anybody who's watched the Spurs during the Bowen years, knows that Bruce or Horry would have done something similar to Harden by trying to draw a tech or pickin on a guy they knew was mentally weak.

I would like to think they'd think twice about picking on Artest because it's common knowledge that you probably shouldn't fuck with him.

I'm not blaming Harden at all for any of this but I'm sure he knows now that there's some guys you pick on and some guys you probably leave alone.

[Brazil]

Nobody would call anybody soft for avoiding him. He was in his own world pounding his chest and going apeshit--not playing the inbounds pass or something else. He was out of his mind and in another world--there was absolutely no necessary reason to engage him at that point.

I can agree with that tbh

as you said not an excuse for doing what he did anyway

once again this weirdo crazy violent dude has no room to be on a bb court if he cannot control himself

[TampaDude]

Fuck Metta World Blumpkin and fuck the Lakers...7 games is good, but it should've been the rest of the season and playoffs.

[Brazil]

Anybody who's watched the Spurs during the Bowen years, knows that Bruce or Horry would have done something similar to Harden by trying to draw a tech or pickin on a guy they knew was mentally weak.

I would like to think they'd think twice about picking on Artest because it's common knowledge that you probably shouldn't fuck with him.

I'm not blaming Harden at all for any of this but I'm sure he knows now that there's some guys you pick on and some guys you probably leave alone.

you can add jax on that list

[picnroll]

My point is that Harden's not the innocent wittle:cry victim who played no part in it. What MWP did was despicable, AS I ALREADY STATED EARLIER, but Harden is known to be a chippy player who tried ran at Ron and tried to pick up a cheap foul while he was going apeshit. Everybody knows how volatile Ron is, so why would you fuck with him when he's in a frenzied state--especially if your a small guy like Harden?

wtf are you talking about. Harden didn't "run up" to Artest he took one small step over into Artest's path, not that uncommon in slowing a guy trying to get back on defense. Then whack job elbowed him to the ground. If whack job is so unstable that in your words "everybody knows how volatile Ron is" he shouldn't be allowed on a basketball court. Try watching the play so you have a clue what you're talking about.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/24/metta-world-peace-suspended-elbow-james-harden_n_1450784.html

[DeadlyDynasty]

So he is sane in the Ben Wallace incident when he goes after the crowd, and insane for the Harden incident. Lakerfan is in Ron's head, knows when he is crazy and when he is not. I call that convenient.


I got it...

How fucking stupid are you?:lmao

Who said Ron was sane when he went into the crowd? Who? Who was going apeshit during the Artest-Wallace immediate aftermath? Do you need video? Hint: It wasn't Artest. Not till some drunk ass through a beer on him did he snap.

Once again, you prove that you don't know what you speak of. Aren't you sorry you made me do this to you?

[DeadlyDynasty]

wtf are you talking about. Harden didn't "run up" to Artest he took one small step over into Artest's path, not that uncommon in slowing a guy trying to get back on defense. Then whack job elbowed him to the ground. If whack job is so unstable that in your words "everybody knows how volatile Ron is" he shouldn't be allowed on a basketball court. Try watching the play so you have a clue what you're talking about.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/24/metta-world-peace-suspended-elbow-james-harden_n_1450784.html

Who approached who, you stupid fuck? Add picnroll to the list of butthurt crybabies.

[Mugen]

He can plead insanity all he wants. Artest's reaction was over the top and if players can't talk trash or bump into him while he's celebrating for fear of being concussed then he needs to be out of the league. Blaming Harden is a red herring here.

They should've forced him out for the remainder so that he could get another mental evaluation in the offseason. Hopefully the Lakers get knocked out before his suspension is over.



They probably should've done more about Karl Malone. That said, Artest is clearly deficient on some level and the NBA had a prime opportunity to avoid making the same mistakes as before.

I get your point. While I wouldn't be surprised if Ron does something like this again. I think the chances of him injuring anybody on purpose is pretty slim or not much greater than with any other NBA player.

It's not like Ron is playing with a bunch of 5th graders or he's packing a knife. These are professional athletes who can handle themselves and don't need the league babying them anymore.

[pgardn]

Anybody who's watched the Spurs during the Bowen years, knows that Bruce or Horry would have done something similar to Harden by trying to draw a tech or pickin on a guy they knew was mentally weak.

I would like to think they'd think twice about picking on Artest because it's common knowledge that you probably shouldn't fuck with him.

I'm not blaming Harden at all for any of this but I'm sure he knows now that there's some guys you pick on and some guys you probably leave alone.

Imo Bowen would jump on that. He would do practically anything to rattle or get the opposition thrown out if he thought it would help the team. Constantly yapping, fingering, elbowing, stepping under shooters. No fear. But no fights because he did not want himself thrown out.
Horry, no imo.

[Mugen]

you can add jax on that list

Yup, Jax would pull the same shit that Bowen or Horry would.

And it'd be a smart move with most guys in the league. But probably not Ron. And i think Jax is smart enough to know that.

[pgardn]

How fucking stupid are you?:lmao

Who said Ron was sane when he went into the crowd? Who? Who was going apeshit during the Artest-Wallace immediate aftermath? Do you need video? Hint: It wasn't Artest. Not till some drunk ass through a beer on him did he snap.

Once again, you prove that you don't know what you speak of. Aren't you sorry you made me do this to you?

You have no understanding of what you are trying to argue Mr. Darrow. You now decide when Ron goes "apeshit" and when he is collected.

Do you charge by the hour and is your sofa soft?

[Brazil]

Yup, Jax would pull the same shit that Bowen or Horry would.

And it'd be a smart move with most guys in the league. But probably not Ron. And i think Jax is smart enough to know that.

probably but out of 3, I can see jax pulling that shit out his hat but he will smart enough to protect himself from a bad surprise

[DeadlyDynasty]

You have no understanding of what you are trying to argue Mr. Darrow. You now decide when Ron goes "apeshit" and when he is collected.

Do you charge by the hour and is your sofa soft?

So are you trying to call me a lawyer (Darrow) or a psychiatrist (couch talk)? You can't even get your burns right.

Do I need to show you both videos to make you look like even more of an ass? Just say the word.

[TheSkeptic]

I get your point. While I wouldn't be surprised if Ron does something like this again. I think the chances of him injuring anybody on purpose is pretty slim or not much greater than with any other NBA player.

It's not like Ron is playing with a bunch of 5th graders or he's packing a knife. These are professional athletes who can handle themselves and don't need the league babying them anymore.

The problem for Artest is that he loses his mind and has moments where he just snaps. That's psychotic behaviour and after all of his suspensions it's clear that just leaving him out a few games every time he hurts somebody isn't getting the message through to him. If Harden had turned just a little more or if the elbow had connected a touch higher, we could've been sitting here talking about a completely different sort of tragedy. That's not something I can just brush aside.

I just don't see how protecting players from serious bodily injury is "babying them". Injuries are a part of the game and I can understand this line of reasoning with respect to playing versus resting players or something like that. Artest is just a psycho and whether they're professional athletes or not, nobody should have to run this type of risk whenever they step on the floor. Basketball is just a game after all.

[pgardn]

So are you trying to call me a lawyer (Darrow) or a psychiatrist (couch talk)? You can't even get your burns right.

Do I need to show you both videos to make you look like even more of an ass? Just say the word.



Yes that is exactly right Mr. Hawking. I called you a lawyer, a bad one, and a psychiatrist, probably intimately acquainted with temporary insanity. Do you get called to trial often? and as which one?

And your modesty and composure are assuring.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm going to use the magic of video to help pgardn out, because he seems to have the brain capacity of Pacman Jones:

Who tries to fight who here?--Also, who is bigger, stronger, and madder:

Cu5bprqdUgY

See how stupid you look now?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Yes that is exactly right Mr. Hawking. I called you a lawyer, a bad one, and a psychiatrist, probably intimately acquainted with temporary insanity. Do you get called to trial often? and as which one?

And your modesty and composure are assuring.

Is this you moving the goalposts again?

Do you always do this when you're frustrated and proven wrong?:lol

[Mugen]

The problem for Artest is that he loses his mind and has moments where he just snaps. That's psychotic behaviour and after all of his suspensions it's clear that just leaving him out a few games every time he hurts somebody isn't getting the message through to him. If Harden had turned just a little more or if the elbow had connected a touch higher, we could've been sitting here talking about a completely different sort of tragedy. That's not something I can just brush aside.

I just don't see how protecting players from serious bodily injury is "babying them". Injuries are a part of the game and I can understand this line of reasoning with respect to playing versus resting players or something like that. Artest is just a psycho and whether they're professional athletes or not, nobody should have to run this type of risk whenever they step on the floor. Basketball is just a game after all.

Honestly, I'd sleep a lot better at night knowing Ron Ron is playing basketball than out on the streets :lol.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Honestly, I'd sleep a lot better at night knowing Ron Ron is playing basketball than out on the streets :lol.

I feel the same way about Cubby posting. Lord knows how many Amber alerts there's been in AZ this past week.

[Mugen]

I feel the same way about Cubby posting. Lord knows how many Amber alerts there's been in AZ this past week.

:lol Co-fucking sign.

[TheSkeptic]

Honestly, I'd sleep a lot better at night knowing Ron Ron is playing basketball than out on the streets :lol.

They could probably give him an out of sight job that doesn't involve him getting into a situation where his emotions can get the best of him to that extent. He clearly can't handle the competitive nature of professional sports and it's in everyone's best interests to remove him from situations where he's been proven to seriously hurt people.

[pgardn]

Thanks for finding the video. I did not watch it as I already had but it was kind of you. There are other as well you can find those also. Diff angles are nice.

Im sorry that I cannot agree that you can tell when Ron is "apeshit" and when he is not. If another man bigger than Ron goes apeshit, he is not apeshit. But when he gets hit with concrete beer, he goes apeshit. Or, when he makes a nice play and someone purposely gets in his face.

BTW.

Is it possible that Harden was finding Artest for an inbounds pass? Players often find a player and push away from them to get an angle on an inbounds?

Since you know the mind of Harden as well... I cant tell...

[Mugen]

They could probably give him an out of sight job that doesn't involve him getting into a situation where his emotions can get the best of him to that extent. He clearly can't handle the competitive nature of professional sports and it's in everyone's best interests to remove him from situations where he's been proven to seriously hurt people.

Don't be offended but you're taking this too seriously.

Harden will be fine and I really don't think Ron will seriously injure anybody for the rest of his career.

[picnroll]

Who approached who, you stupid fuck? Add picnroll to the list of butthurt crybabies.

Well at least we have it down from "run up" to "approach". So if you appproach whack job you should expect that you might get elbowed unconscious. Sounds like whack job should play in a straight jacket. Are you by any chance the crack baby formerly known as Ron Artest?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Thanks for finding the video. I did not watch it as I already had but it was kind of you. There are other as well you can find those also. Diff angles are nice.

Find any video with any angle of that event that will support your logic.

Then come back to me.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Well at least we have it down from "run up" to "approach". So if you whack job you should expect that you might get elbowed unconscious. Sounds like whack job should play in a straight jacket. Are you by any chance the crack baby formerly known as Ron Artest?

Sick, incoherent burn, scro:tu

Tell us more.

[pgardn]

I really wish Artest had not done this.

He was really playing well and was fun to watch. He was getting off the ground, penetrating and making plays, actually hitting some 3's. He was looking like a real basketball player again.

I have always liked his intensity and hand speed on the defensive end. I wonder if the Lakers try and sign him again or if another team tries to pick him up. He has another year I believe, contract up next year...

[TheSkeptic]

Don't be offended but you're taking this too seriously.

Harden will be fine and I really don't think Ron will seriously injure anybody for the rest of his career.

Concussions are tricky. We don't know what will happen to Harden long-term as a result of this hit and at that we can all agree that he got lucky.

I don't doubt that Ron doesn't *intend* to seriously injure anybody but like I said he's not in his right mind when he does things like this. Given his history 7 games simply won't do unless the Lakers get knocked out in the first round.

And I'm saying this as someone who appreciated what Artest could do as a basketball player and the work he put in towards being sane. I feel sorry for him but if even after all of that we still don't know how he'll react to a situation, then new measures have to be taken imo.

[pgardn]

Find any video with any angle of that event that will support your logic.

Then come back to me.

Actually it is you that knows when he cracks its your understanding of human behavior that is so keen. So if the Wallace incident had never occurred, and the beer was thrown anyway, does he still go apeshit Dr. Freud?

[daslicer]

I'm going to use the magic of video to help pgardn out, because he seems to have the brain capacity of Pacman Jones:

Who tries to fight who here?--Also, who is bigger, stronger, and madder:

Cu5bprqdUgY

See how stupid you look now?


:lol you should try out for Fox News you would be great hit over there. You definitely fit in their fair and balanced slogan. Just admit it you have Artest's dick in your mouth and be thankful it was only 7 games when it could have been more. Deadly Retard you didn't disappoint with your poor trolling in this thread.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol you should try out for Fox News you would be great hit over there. You definitely fit in their fair and balanced slogan. Just admit it you have Artest's dick in your mouth and be thankful it was only 7 games when it could have been more. Deadly Retard you didn't disappoint with your poor trolling in this thread.

I'm sorry but I've never heard of you.

[GSH]

-I said MWP is a psycho (common knowledge) who was in a frenzied state when Harden ran up to him


If the guy is such a psycho that he can't be approached, or lightly touched, without throwing an elbow to someone's head, then he really shouldn't be on the court. End of discussion. We generally institutionalize people like that. We don't tell the normal people to be careful about accidentally touching someone, because they might get attacked. Well... unless your state is bankrupt. Then they just have to let the crazies run the streets.




Aren't you sorry you made me do this to you?


You sound more than a little bit unstable yourself, DeeDee. Sounds like something a serial killer says. "I don't want to hurt them... they make me do it." Come to think of it, that's exactly the defense you're trying to create for MWP.

Listen, DeeDee - if your state is bankrupt, and you can't afford your meds, speak up. We'll take up a collection or something.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Actually it is you that knows when he cracks its your understanding of human behavior that is so keen. So if the Wallace incident had never occurred, and the beer was thrown anyway, does he still go apeshit Dr. Freud?

Oh, so no videos or angles to prove your point? That's cool.

He's got a track record of doing weird shit. Also, does someone who says this (true or not) seem like a mentally stable individual to you?

zjlxCyUbpMo

[crc21209]

After hearing a handful of NBA "experts" say they were expecting 10 games or more I was expecting 10 games or more. But 7 sounds good to me, at least it wasnt just a game or 2. The only problem I have with it is that World Piece of Crap can possibly come back for a pivotal Game 7....

[Obstructed_View]

Nobody would call anybody soft for avoiding him. He was in his own world pounding his chest and going apeshit--not playing the inbounds pass or something else. He was out of his mind and in another world--there was absolutely no necessary reason to engage him at that point.

Not an excuse. If you honestly believe that he has no control over himself then he has no business running free in public, let alone on a basketball court.

[pgardn]

Oh, so no videos or angles to prove your point? That's cool.

He's got a track record of doing weird shit. Also, does someone who says this (true or not) seem like a mentally stable individual to you?

zjlxCyUbpMo

I have no doubt he is unstable.

But the apeshit part where he gets violent, I dont know when that happens. Except after it happens.

I also dont know from the replay if Harden is trying to antagonize him, getting and advantage for the inbounds, or possibly both.

I dont know. Thats why I ask the expert.

You.

[TJastal]

Ron helped bury some bodies for Stern and the NBA

But tbh this punishment seems about in line with the rest of the incidents this year like Love 'face stomping' Scola

Leave it to you to compare a guy's flat rubber rubber sole pushing off on a guy's face to a sharp elbow thrown with full force at the back of somebody's head.

[Russ]

Does he get to keep his NBA Citizen of the Year Award?

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[gospursgojas]

I guess I can google it but does anyone know off the top of their head what Karl's punishment was after putting Dave to sleep?

[maverick1948]

Watching the replay a couple of days after it happened, I can objectively say that 7 games is not enough for what he did. Many players celebrate without taking the head off another player with an elbow. He was NOT beating his chest, he was drawing back to hit someone. It is obvious that he was intending to do that. Beating his chest would have put his elbow down about a foot below the head level. Trying beating you chest with you elbow above your head. No I dont agree with anyone who says it was unintentional. He did with intent and nothing you can say will change it. He drew back and raised his elbow up to hit the head of a player. As for Hardin moving into him, from watching I see Kobe in front of Hardin as the play ends. He moves to the right, Hardin moves left to get inbounds pass. The Idiot runs into Hardin and throws elbow. Case closed.

[Mugen]

For the record, Bynum only getting 4 games for the Barea hit is waaaaaaay more ridiculous than Ron only getting 7.

[Obstructed_View]

I guess I can google it but does anyone know off the top of their head what Karl's punishment was after putting Dave to sleep?

1 game and 5k fine.

[gospursgojas]

I guess I can google it but does anyone know off the top of their head what Karl's punishment was after putting Dave to sleep?

Quick google search:

http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2006/03/karl-malones-greatest-hits.html

Malone was fined $5,000 and suspended for one game, but was later forgiven by the concussed Admiral.

^^^weak

[gospursgojas]

1 game and 5k fine.


Quick google search:

http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2006/03/karl-malones-greatest-hits.html

Malone was fined $5,000 and suspended for one game, but was later forgiven by the concussed Admiral.

^^^weak

:tu Thanks

[Obstructed_View]

Fox News had a "10 worst NBA hits of all time". Horry's hip check on Nash was there, and Raja Bell's horse collar of Kobe was there. It even had Jason Smith's hip check of Blake Griffin, but no Karl Malone on the entire list. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

:tu Thanks

Off the top of my head, too. :)

[GSH]

Jan 30, 2003. Ron was in full loon mode in a game against Miami. He had already been called for a flagrant against Caron Butler. He (Artest) got fouled as he was making a basket, and instead of going to the line he went to the Miami bench, flexing his arm. In the process, he brushed against Pat Riley. Riley, already sick of his shit, yelled at him and pushed him away. Note: Artest brushed into Riley, which is the same thing Harden did to Artest. Riley didn't elbow Artest in the head. If he had, he probably would have been suspended as a coach, for at least the rest of the season. That sort of thing is just not done.

The problem is, Lakerfans don't want the rules to be applied equally.

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BTW - Wilbon mentioned that Artest broke two of Michael Jordan's ribs the first time they played each other. And Crazy Ron wasn't even particularly angry that day.

[gospursgojas]

Ron Ron crazy>>>>>Rodman crazy.

Rodman did it for attention. Artest is legit take pills crazy.

[SA210]

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What a disgrace. I haven't watched that in a while.

[Spurminator]

Fucking disgrace.

[Kori Ellis]

"I've never taken medication (to control moods) in my life. Doctors have suggested it and I say, 'OK, give it to me.' But I throw it in the garbage immediately," - Ron Artest

[Spurminator]

And I like Ron as a person. I root for him to get his shit together. But just 7 games, for a guy with his history, leaves me speechless. I really thought the league would err on the side of over-suspending him in order to squash suspicions that they would favor a Laker. Seven games for Artest is nothing short of an under-suspension, which makes me wonder if the NBA even gives a shit about perception at all.

[TE]

"I've never taken medication (to control moods) in my life. Doctors have suggested it and I say, 'OK, give it to me.' But I throw it in the garbage immediately," - Ron Artest

There it is.

[GSH]

I guess Rip Hamilton provoked Ron, too. Looks like everyone needs to just let Ron alone on the court, or he might hit you in the head. Not a bad strategy.
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What really kills me is the Lakerfans who say that an elbow to the head is no big deal. But when someone barely touches Artest, THAT is provocation.

[GSH]

Okay, I never saw this one before. It may be the best one yet. I don't know if there are any meds that would help Ron. But if there are, he needs them force-fed to him. And he really, really should't be in any situation where emotions run high, or there might be any confrontation of any kind. C'mon... is it any wonder that this guy loses control on the court?
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[T Park]

And I like Ron as a person. I root for him to get his shit together. But just 7 games, for a guy with his history, leaves me speechless. I really thought the league would err on the side of over-suspending him in order to squash suspicions that they would favor a Laker. Seven games for Artest is nothing short of an under-suspension, which makes me wonder if the NBA even gives a shit about perception at all.



I am almost certain they're at the point where they don't care, which is baffling...

[Kori Ellis]

There it is.

That quote was long ago (2005 or so). I know that he is regularly under care of a psychiatrist, so he could be taking meds now, but I doubt it. I heard long ago that he refused to take them because he thought that he would lose his edge as player and not be as good.

An interesting note is that I always heard from people in the know that his now ex-wife was even more nuts than he is. When he was in Indiana, they said the things that she pulled were absolutely ridiculous.

[angelbelow]

Okay, I never saw this one before. It may be the best one yet. I don't know if there are any meds that would help Ron. But if there are, he needs them force-fed to him. And he really, really should't be in any situation where emotions run high, or there might be any confrontation of any kind. C'mon... is it any wonder that this guy loses control on the court?
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:rollin



An interesting note is that I always heard from people in the know that his now ex-wife was even more nuts than he is. When he was in Indiana, they said the things that she pulled were absolutely ridiculous.

Misery loves company.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Okay, I never saw this one before. It may be the best one yet. I don't know if there are any meds that would help Ron. But if there are, he needs them force-fed to him. And he really, really should't be in any situation where emotions run high, or there might be any confrontation of any kind. C'mon... is it any wonder that this guy loses control on the court?
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:wow :lol Medication may help his imbalance, but you can't fix stupid.

[Bruno]

7 games sounds fair.

The most important about referring/judging is consistency. 7 games sound consistent with what the league has done lately considering Artest's past and that Harden got injured on that play.

Regarding Artest's past, I don't think he should be viewed at this stage as a more problematic player than a few others in the league who commit sometimes hard/dirty fouls. The whole Pallace's brawl was 7 and a half years ago and Artest was severely punished for it.

And I don't worry about the league becoming dirty because of this relatively light punishment. The NBA has been a clean league for years despite these light punishments. If it changes, it will still be time to toughen up sanctions.

[Capt Bringdown]

Wondering what kind of infraction it would be if someone did the same thing outside of the gym.


Or, if the perp was wearing a different colored uniform.

[ata]

My 0.02$:
he should get 7 games + number of games Harden misses because of the injury. If this would be career ending injury for Harden, Artest shouldn't play in NBA again.

[smaka]

My 0.02$:
he should get 7 games + number of games Harden misses because of the injury. If this would be career ending injury for Harden, Artest shouldn't play in NBA again.

Good point.

[GSH]

Harden was cleared to play tonight, but OKC will sit him anyway. Said they wanted to give him 24 more hours to recover.

[Spurtacus]

Suspend him for 7 games in the 2nd round against the Thunder.

[mytespurs]

Ffigured stern would throw them a bone after c Paul trade fell through...Pol! They are fortunate that mwp's absence won't hurt them in 1st round-still what if nuggets are this year's grizzlies?? Pol!

[Koolaid_Man]

DPG The reviews aren"t glowing:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/hobbit-48-fps-footage-divides-audiences_n_1452391.html

[ace3g]

Did you guys see some of his tweets, which were removed later on:


Sports media , I understand yal articles and respect it.. But the players and players that played in the 80's judging me.More to come later.

Shaq ,How can u comment on elbows.. What about the punch you threw at brad miller. And the elbows at dikembe and the prizbilla concussion?

Can magic johnson,jon barry and steven A compare my accidental elbow to the Luis scola face step and the Blake griff take down..?

[T Park]

Shaq just addressed that on NBA Game time tonight

he ripped the living shit out of Artest too. It was the most entertaining show I've seen out of Shaq all season.

[TheSkeptic]

Shaq just addressed that on NBA Game time tonight

he ripped the living shit out of Artest too. It was the most entertaining show I've seen out of Shaq all season.

What'd he say?

And also, Ron's tweets clearly show that the suspension wasn't long enough. It's as if he doesn't understand that he was completely wrong...:pctoss

[T Park]

Shaq said none of his elbows were meant in a way to hurt someone like Artest did. Also he said when they told me I'd be suspended, I took it like a man and took the suspension.

He also referenced the Brad Miller story, said he told Brad if you keep cheap shotting me I'm coming after you, he did so I came after him, and said they came to me later asked if I said it, I said I did, they said your gone for 5, I took it like a man. Not all "eh, well, ya know, I didnt REALLY mean it"

He ripped the living crap out of him.

If you have NBA TV, turn it on now, the part will come back around again. I mean Shaq went nuclear on him.

[TDMVPDPOY]

you still get pad even ur suspended right? so why his complaining about free money?

[CitizenDwayne]

Words like "why" don't often come up in the mind of Metta World Peace.

Ex: his name is Metta World Peace.

[HarlemHo 37]

you still get pad even ur suspended right? so why his complaining about free money?

He isn't getting paid.

[Legacy]

Shaq said none of his elbows were meant in a way to hurt someone like Artest did. Also he said when they told me I'd be suspended, I took it like a man and took the suspension.

He also referenced the Brad Miller story, said he told Brad if you keep cheap shotting me I'm coming after you, he did so I came after him, and said they came to me later asked if I said it, I said I did, they said your gone for 5, I took it like a man. Not all "eh, well, ya know, I didnt REALLY mean it"

He ripped the living crap out of him.

If you have NBA TV, turn it on now, the part will come back around again. I mean Shaq went nuclear on him.


Man, I really want to see this video, dagnabbit. I've found parts of it on YouTube, but they immediately cut off what Shaq has to say after he only speaks like two sentences. :cuss

[SA210]

So there is no vid on this?

[InK]

You try and kill someone and u get 2 weeks off. Some teams have it good

[Obstructed_View]

Clearly not learning anything. Should have his suspension amended.

[DeadlyDynasty]

You guys are still crying about this?:lol

[Fernando TD21]

I thought 5-7 games would be enough based on the other suspensions the nba has given and based on artest's history.


Okay, I never saw this one before. It may be the best one yet. I don't know if there are any meds that would help Ron. But if there are, he needs them force-fed to him. And he really, really should't be in any situation where emotions run high, or there might be any confrontation of any kind. C'mon... is it any wonder that this guy loses control on the court?
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:lol

[GSH]

Shaq just addressed that on NBA Game time tonight

he ripped the living shit out of Artest too. It was the most entertaining show I've seen out of Shaq all season.


Once I figured out that a lot of Shaq's comments were just showmanship, I actually started to like the guy. He was the P.T. Barnum of basketball, and he made a lot of money off the act. Doesn't mean I agree with him about everything, but he's usually got a pretty good take. And he was right about this one, for sure. He did take his suspensions like a man. It's hard to believe, but it really looks like Artest thinks his punishment was unfair.

[TheSkeptic]

Once I figured out that a lot of Shaq's comments were just showmanship, I actually started to like the guy. He was the P.T. Barnum of basketball, and he made a lot of money off the act. Doesn't mean I agree with him about everything, but he's usually got a pretty good take. And he was right about this one, for sure. He did take his suspensions like a man. It's hard to believe, but it really looks like Artest thinks his punishment was unfair.

Well if this was maybe a one-time thing or whatever 7 games would still be lenient but it'd be more or less within reason. Artest was probably expecting less of a punishment in any case because he likely feels that Harden was either instigating things or that the "unintentional" aspect of his hit makes it somewhat justified (thank you Kobe for not helping matters).

He needs to be out of the league though. Not to punish him but because he's clearly not right in the head. Although tbh I'm not even sure if the NBA can make a player retire due to a mental disability...

[GSH]

Crazy-assed MWP. Not only did he refuse to try and make ameds with Harden (he says he "doesn't shake hands with substitutes"), but he also said that the whole thing was Harden's fault. He claims that Harden sensed the emotions, ran up behind him, and FLOPPED!

That's right - Artest now sees himself as the victim.

[Obstructed_View]

Which is why some of us suggested a lifetime ban...

[TheSkeptic]

Are these guys liable if Artest seriously hurts someone again? If not then they should be.

[gospursgojas]

Are these guys liable if Artest seriously hurts someone again? If not then they should be.

Next player's agent who gets hurt by him should sue

[therealtruth]

Crazy-assed MWP. Not only did he refuse to try and make ameds with Harden (he says he "doesn't shake hands with substitutes"), but he also said that the whole thing was Harden's fault. He claims that Harden sensed the emotions, ran up behind him, and FLOPPED!

That's right - Artest now sees himself as the victim.

All he said is he doesn't shake hand with substitutes which is true for every NBA starter.

[Mr. Body]

All he said is he doesn't shake hand with substitutes which is true for every NBA starter.

:rolleyes :nope

[Legacy]

^^ So him not trying to make any type of "Peace" just flies out the fucken' window because of that?? BAHAHAHAHAHA!! "Mega Piece O' Turd", alright. :lmao

[Obstructed_View]

All he said is he doesn't shake hand with substitutes which is true for every NBA starter.

Actually he said that Harden flopped and suggested that he was the victim of Harden's gamesmanship.