Racism revisited

[RaZon]

It's always funny to listen/read how people try to talk around the obvious. Very entertaining. All those creative ways of getting away from..."yep, we are different!"

Being a football/track freak all my life I saw those obvious differences early on in life. While I could run I couldn't run with the black guys around here. I'm talking as just a little kid. I could however beat the Asian, Mexican and fellow paleface sprinters. This region of California giving the speed world...

Olympians

Leamon King...Delano
Tommie Smith...Lemoore
Maxie Parks...Fresno

Notable

Bill Cowings...Fowler/state 100 champ
Marquez Holiwell....West Bakersfield/state 100 champ
Alvin Mann...Fresno/state 100 champ
Laurence Jones...Lemoore/state 400 champ
Jerry White...Corcoran/state 400 champ

All Afro Americans.

Central California has had...one....white sprinter of note...Darel Newman. He was great being the only paleface sprinter to beat the greast Bob Hayes. Turned that trick in an indoor 60. Newman barely missed making the 1964 Olympic team. Which was the last year we saw a paleface sprinter on our Oly 4x1 team, that was Dartmouths Gerry Ashworth.

This is want/need/culture/escape the ghetto?

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How many Afro Canadians are there? The greatest Canadian sprinter...Donovan Bailey who was born in Jamaica,

How many Afro Brits are there? The greatest British sprinter...Linford Christie who was also born in Jamaica.

Tiny Jamaica having more great sprinters than Asia and Europe combined. The Middle East...hahaha!!!!!

So to say...blacks are the fastest humans on the planet...is racism or fact?

[cheguevara]

sky is blue

[RaZon]

sky is blue

Not where I'm sitting.

[cantthinkofanything]

Not where I'm sitting.

on another man's weenie

[RaZon]

on another man's weenie

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Great stuff bro. Tommie Smith went to SJS as we know. We also know San Jose was known as Speed City back then. Who were the others that gave San Jose that name?

[cantthinkofanything]

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Great stuff bro. Tommie Smith went to SJS as we know. We also know San Jose was known as Speed City back then. Who were the others that gave San Jose that name?

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this weenie in my bottom feels good

[RaZon]

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Great stuff bro. Tommie Smith went to SJS as we know. We also know San Jose was known as Speed City back then. Who were the others that gave San Jose that name?

Ok, here ya go..

Jimmy Omegemi...9.4/Nigeria
Dennis Johnson...Jamaica/WR 9.3/1964 Olympian
Ray Norton...WR9.3 1960 Olympian
Bobby Poynter...9.4
Tommie Smith...WR200/400/1968 Olympian
Lee Evans...WR400m/1968 Olympian
Wayne Herman..9.4
Bob Griffen...9.4
Ronnie Ray Smith...WR9.9/1968 Olympian
Kirk Clayton...9.3
Sam Davis..10.1/state JC Champion
John Carlos...WR9.1/1968 Olympian

[RaZon]

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this weenie in my bottom feels good

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How do you do that? So who would be the fastest white sprinters from Cali?

[Trill Clinton]

on another man's weenie

:rollin:rollin:rollin

[cantthinkofanything]

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How do you do that? So who would be the fastest white sprinters from Cali?

ok slick...let's talk track and fantasy teams.

what's your top 4 fastest kinds of cheese?

[RaZon]

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How do you do that? So who would be the fastest white sprinters from Cali schools?

No problem.

All Time California Paleface 100m

*** Olympians

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1.Larry Questad...9.3 Stanford ***
2.Mel Patton...9.3 (histories first) USC ***
3.Darel Newman...9.2 Fresno State
4.Charley Paddock...1920 Oly Champion USC
5.Clyde Jeffreys...9.4 Stanford
6.Frank Wykoff...9.4 (histories first) USC ***
7.Hal Davis...9.4 Cal ..best sprinter in the world early 40's. No Olympics.
8.Fred Kuller...9.3 USC

[RaZon]

ok slick...let's talk track and fantasy teams.

what's your top 4 fastest kinds of cheese?

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Ok bro, let's talk some SEC speed, how about Tennessee?

[RaZon]

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Ok bro, let's talk some SEC speed, how about Tennessee?

Cool~~~

All Time Tennesse 100m

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1.Terry Scott
2.Willie Gault
3.Reggie Jones
4.Justin Gatlin
5.Leonard Scott
6.Sam Graddy
7.Terrell Wilks
8.Jeff Phillips

[manufan10]

ok slick...let's talk track and fantasy teams.

what's your top 4 fastest kinds of cheese?

Swiss cheese is the hardest to determine. Will the holes be a detriment or a help to the cheese?

[cantthinkofanything]

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Ok bro, let's talk some SEC speed, how about Tennessee?

step up your game little one. I'm talking serious track. how about picking from...

Moses McGroot
Willis Goober
James "Tinkle" Jackson
Rudy Bobgobber

[cantthinkofanything]

Swiss cheese is the hardest to determine. Will the holes be a detriment or a help to the cheese?

I would say...they would help. Makes the cheese lighter and also decreases wind drag. But I don't know. If the cheese ran sideways, it might actually increase the wind problems.

[RaZon]

step up your game little one. I'm talking serious track. how about picking from...

Moses McGroot
Willis Goober
James "Tinkle" Jackson
Rudy Bobgobber

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How about the Oakland Raiders, as we know Al Davis loved speed.

[cantthinkofanything]

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How about the Oakland Raiders, as we know Al Davis loved speed.

Let's concentrate and think...make it a challenge slick. Fastest golfers 4x...hmmm 4x1600

[RaZon]

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How about the Oakland Raiders, as we know Al Davis loved speed.

No problem.

All Time Oakland Raiders 100m

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1.Alvis Whitted 10.07 NCSt
2.Cliff Branch 9.2 Colorado
3.James Jett 10.16 WV
4.Ron Brown 10.06 ASU
5.Sam Graddy 10.09 Tenn
6.Willie Gault 10.10 Tenn
7.James Trapp 10.14 Clemson
8.Jacoby Ford 10.01 Clemson

[RaZon]

Let's concentrate and think...make it a challenge slick. Fastest golfers 4x...hmmm 4x1600

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Let's concentrate and think...make it a challenge slick. Fastest 110 hurdlers.

[cantthinkofanything]

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Let's concentrate and think...make it a challenge slick. Fastest 110 hurdlers.

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I can't Google fastest golfers or cheeses.

[RaZon]

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Let's concentrate and think...make it a challenge slick. Fastest 110 hurdlers.

Hmmm?

All Time 110h 100m

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1.Renaldo Nehemiah...10.17 Maryland
2.Dwight Thomas...10.00 Jamaica/Clemson
3.Harrison Dillard...Olympic 100m gold/Baldwin Wallace
4.Tony Dees...10.1? Mississippi
5.Terrence Trammell...10.04/Clemson
6.Arnoldo Bristol...9.3 PR/TSU
7.Willie Gault...10.10 Tennessee
8.Mark McKoy...10.0? Canada/Clemson

[RaZon]

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I can't Google fastest golfers or cheeses.

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Google ain't got nothing on you. How about that UCLA all time?

[RaZon]

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Google ain't got nothing on you. How about that UCLA all time?

No problem

All Time UCLA 100m

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1.Lloyd LaBeach... 9.4 Panama
2.Hal Busby...9.3
3.Norm Jackson...9.4
4.Mike Marsh..9.93
5.Ato Boldon...9.86 Trinidad
6.David James...9.3
7.Warren Edmonson...9.3
8.Henry Thomas..10.17?

[RaZon]

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

[cantthinkofanything]

Hmmm?

All Time 110h 100m

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1.Renaldo Nehemiah...10.17 Maryland
2.Dwight Thomas...10.00 Jamaica/Clemson
3.Harrison Dillard...Olympic 100m gold/Baldwin Wallace
4.Tony Dees...10.1? Mississippi
5.Terrence Trammell...10.04/Clemson
6.Arnoldo Bristol...9.3 PR/TSU
7.Willie Gault...10.10 Tennessee
8.Mark McKoy...10.0? Canada/Clemson

For quite some time, I suspected that part of your schtick was posting lists that weren't quite factual.

[RaZon]

For quite some time, I suspected that part of your schtick was posting lists that weren't quite factual.

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How about that that born in Jamaica All Time?

[cantthinkofanything]

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How about that that born in Jamaica All Time?

So what's the next step? Is it that you are going to stand by the inaccurate info you posted? Or do you say something like "the numbers aren't important"? Or what? You don't admit you're wrong. That would be a new twist for this troll. Or you could say "gotcha, made you look it up".

[RaZon]

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How about that that born in Jamaica All Time?

Let's see...

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1.Ben Johnson...Canada
2.Yohan Blake
3.Asafa Powell
4.Usain Bolt
5.Donovan Bailey...Canada
6.Linford Christie...GB
7.Ray Stewart...TCU
8.Lennox Miller...USC
9.Don Quarrie...USC
10.Nesta Carter

Huge track:rolleyes

[RaZon]

So what's the next step? Is it that you are going to stand by the inaccurate info you posted? Or do you say something like "the numbers aren't important"? Or what? You don't admit you're wrong. That would be a new twist for this troll. Or you could say "gotcha, made you look it up".

Wrong about what?

[cantthinkofanything]

Let's see...

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1.Ben Johnson...Canada
2.Yohan Blake
3.Asafa Powell
4.Usain Bolt
5.Donovan Bailey...Canada
6.Linford Christie...GB
7.Ray Stewart...TCU
8.Lennox Miller...USC
9.Don Quarrie...USC
10.Nesta Carter

Huge track:rolleyes

Oh...I see...you'll just ignore it.

[cantthinkofanything]

Wrong about what?

Seriously???

[RaZon]

Seriously???

Remember if I'm wrong then Google was wrong...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I might be off a a tick or two in times but other than that ...rock solid!!!

[cantthinkofanything]

Remember if I'm wrong then Google was wrong...hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Got it.

[RaZon]

Got it.

Dude, huge fan of sprinting. As you can tell. I don't Google and doubt I'll be making many mistakes.

Pick a school right here right now. If they have/had 4 quality sprinters I will give you their all time 4x1 team in a matter of seconds. Try me!

I have index cards I keep on each school that meets my criteria. I have access to Track & Field News from the late 60's.

I have this site.
http://trackfield.brinkster.net/YearsUSA.asp?Year=1957&Gender=M&TF=T&P=F

As you can see no school break down there. So I have to do the work, and I have.


I'm the real deal amigo, a genuine speed freak.

Well aware of your need to make ime out to be stupid, I must look weird, I suck, I'm a moron etc etc. I understand this internet in hiding bit...trust me! But ...I am what I say I am, which is the fun I have with you/others.

Just say..."I know more than you"...and you will always have page after page of responses. Why else are we doing this?

[manufan10]

Who would win in a race of Cable News anchors?

[RaZon]

Who would win in a race of Cable News anchors?

How about NFL wide receivers?

1st...Bob Hayes
2nd...Sam Graddy
3rd...Ron Brown

All three Olympic 100m finalists.

We can't count Jimmy Hines, he did...0....in the league.

The comedy bit:rolleyes

[manufan10]

So you're saying you don't know?

[RaZon]

So you're saying you don't know?

I'm saying I don't watch tv. I pick and choose movies/sporting events.

[manufan10]

I'm saying I don't watch tv. I pick and choose movies/sporting events.

Ok, got it. You don't know, and you're not a great historian. Thanks.

[RaZon]

Ok, got it. You don't know, and you're not a great historian. Thanks.

Give me an NFL team and I will give you the fastest player/players to ever play for that franchise. Prove me fulll of shit.

We'll look at the time and in 60 seconds...bingo!

[cantthinkofanything]

Dude, huge fan of sprinting. As you can tell. I don't Google and doubt I'll be making many mistakes.

Pick a school right here right now. If they have/had 4 quality sprinters I will give you their all time 4x1 team in a matter of seconds. Try me!

I have index cards I keep on each school that meets my criteria. I have access to Track & Field News from the late 60's.

I have this site.
http://trackfield.brinkster.net/YearsUSA.asp?Year=1957&Gender=M&TF=T&P=F

As you can see no school break down there. So I have to do the work, and I have.


I'm the real deal amigo, a genuine speed freak.

Well aware of your need to make ime out to be stupid, I must look weird, I suck, I'm a moron etc etc. I understand this internet in hiding bit...trust me! But ...I am what I say I am, which is the fun I have with you/others.

Just say..."I know more than you"...and you will always have page after page of responses. Why else are we doing this?


So when you list those times for the men's 110 hurdles, this if off the top of your head? And you really had no clue that they were all a couple seconds faster than the current world record?

And even though your troll spelling sucks, you're able to correctly remember and type the spelling of all these sprinters. Some with unusual names. And you don't have Google? Come on slick. Step up your game...why don't you

[IWantsACuatro]

What about Tony Dorsett?

[RaZon]

So when you list those times for the men's 110 hurdles, this if off the top of your head? And you really had no clue that they were all a couple seconds faster than the current world record?

And even though your troll spelling sucks, you're able to correctly remember and type the spelling of all these sprinters. Some with unusual names. And you don't have Google? Come on slick. Step up your game...why don't you

You really are an idiot aren't you?

I'll go slow....

Some hurdlers like those I listed were also 100m sprinters to some degree. Harrison Dillard for instance won the 100m and the 110's at the Olympic Games. Willie Gault ran on USA teams on the 4x1. Those times were their 100m times ya fucking moron:rolleyes

Dude, give it up...ok? I have no reason to pick..sprinting...as something to lie about. Why sprinting? I moderated sub10 the most famous sprint discussion forum on the net. I am the real deal.

[IWantsACuatro]

What about Bob Hayes?

[RaZon]

What about Tony Dorsett?

Dorsett didn't run track while at Pitt. But...it's very obvious he had great speed for a running back. Most backs don't have that long range type speed, more quick than fast.

Dorsett did run a 9.6 (I think it was) in the old Superstars competition. Which tells us with some training as a sprinter in college...9.3?

The fastest sprinter ever at Pitt...Lee McRae.

[cantthinkofanything]

Hmmm?

All Time 110h 100m

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1.Renaldo Nehemiah...10.17 Maryland
2.Dwight Thomas...10.00 Jamaica/Clemson
3.Harrison Dillard...Olympic 100m gold/Baldwin Wallace
4.Tony Dees...10.1? Mississippi
5.Terrence Trammell...10.04/Clemson
6.Arnoldo Bristol...9.3 PR/TSU
7.Willie Gault...10.10 Tennessee
8.Mark McKoy...10.0? Canada/Clemson

So you're saying that Arnoldo Bristol, a world class 110 hurdler, ran a 9.3 100m dash in the 70's? That's what you're saying?

[RaZon]

What about Bob Hayes?

Bob Hayes was the fastest human the world had ever seen. Histories first sub6.0/10.00 (9.91 but was windy). He broke or tied 13 sprint WR 's in his day. Records in the 60, 100yd. 100m and the 200m.

His 10.06 Olympic win was on a shabby dirt track. If he'd ran on todays surfaces even back then...9.98.

[cantthinkofanything]

So you're saying that Arnoldo Bristol, a world class 110 hurdler, ran a 9.3 100m dash in the 70's? That's what you're saying?

[RaZon]

So you're saying that Arnoldo Bristol, a world class 110 hurdler, ran a 9.3 100m dash in the 70's? That's what you're saying?

I'll go even slower...

That was his OBVIOUSLY 100 "yard" time while at Texas Southen. Being he could run that fast in the 100 tells us he'd belong with the others in a 100m.

Are you really that fucking stupid to think anyone thinks a hurdler from Puerto Rico is running a 9.3 100m? Dude you being as ignorant as you are about this is comical.

[IWantsACuatro]

What about Jeremy Wariner?


Oh.....gotcha!

[cantthinkofanything]

I'll go even slower...

That was his OBVIOUSLY 100 "yard" time while at Texas Southen. Being he could run that fast in the 100 tells us he'd belong with the others in a 100m.

Are you really that fucking stupid to think anyone thinks a hurdler from Puerto Rico is running a 9.3 100m? Dude, you being as ignorant as you are about this is comical.

Yes I made the mistake of forgetting you wouldn't know a yard time from a meter time...my bad.

Bullshit. He never ran that.

[RaZon]

Bullshit. He never ran that.

Would you care to make a little wager on that?

[cantthinkofanything]

Would you care to make a little wager on that?

sure.

[RaZon]

sure.

So what are you telling me?

Are you saying that no Bristol never ran a 9.3?

Is that correct?

[cantthinkofanything]

So what are you telling me?

Are you saying that no Bristol never ran a 9.3?

Is that correct?

You asked me if I wanted to wager on it. I said, "sure". Was that difficult to understand?

[IWantsACuatro]

What about...Liu Xiang?


Oh...gotcha!

[RaZon]

You asked me if I wanted to wager on it. I said, "sure". Was that difficult to understand?


I don't trust you. I want to make damn sure you understand what you are betting against.

I 'm telling you that yes Bristol was a 9.3 sprinter, are you telling me that's a lie/bullshit?

[cantthinkofanything]

I don't trust you. I want to make damn sure you understand what you are betting against.

I 'm telling you that yes Bristol was a 9.3 sprinter, are you telling me that's a lie/bullshit?

I'm telling you to prove it without using the internet.

[RaZon]

What about...Liu Xiang?


Oh...gotcha!

Neither Wariner or Xiang are known for anything in the 100. Not saying they have "never" ran the distance, I am saying nobody cared and it was nothing to speak of.

[IWantsACuatro]

I am saying nobody cared and it was nothing to speak of.


Because you're revisting racism, correct?

[RaZon]

I'm telling you to prove it without using the internet.

Did he run a 9.3 or not? The internet has what to do with that:rolleyes

[cantthinkofanything]

But you know what...I am willing to give you credit for making your lists vague enough that led me right into your troll. You got me.

[cantthinkofanything]

Did he run a 9.3 or not? The internet has what to do with that:rolleyes

He ran a 9.3. I already found it...like you did...on the internet.

[RaZon]

Because you're revisting racism, correct?

Sorry I misunderstood.

Wariner is one of the greatest 400 guys ever. Xiang one of the greatest hurdlers,

Now lets look at all those great white 400m guys and Asian hurdlers. When compared to black 400 guys and 110hurdlers, Wariner and Xiang are oddties/rare. Not the norm at all.

[RaZon]

He ran a 9.3. I already found it...like you did...on the internet.

Wrong.

I read it in an old Track & Field News mag.

You were going to kick your ass kicked slick.


Jim Hines (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(2724,'M','MA0','All'))USA 9.11 Charles Greene (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(2323,'M','MA0','All'))USA 9.1A3 Paul Nash (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(4739,'M','MA0','All'))RSA 9.23 Lennox Miller (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(4506,'M','MA0','All'))JAM 9.2A5 Arnaldo Bristol (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(783,'M','MA0','All'))PUR 9.35 Clarence Ray (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(7962,'M','MA0','All'))USA 9.35 Jacob Henry (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(15261,'M','MA0','All'))USA 9.35 Tommie Smith (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(6222,'M','MA0','All'))USA 9.3A5 Bill Miller (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(0,'M','MA0','All'))USA 9.35 Kirk Clayton (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(7644,'M','MA0','All'))USA 9.3


Dude, I wasn't alive in 1936 so anytime I talk about Jesse Owens it will be something I read. What difference does it make where info is obtained? Have I seen every single track meet over the last 100 years...nope! So chances are I will be reading about things...right?

Are you really as fucked up as you appear here?

[cantthinkofanything]

Wrong.

I read it in an old Track & Field News mag.

You were going to kick your ass kicked slick.


Jim Hines (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%282724,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29 )USA 9.11 Charles Greene (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%282323,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29 )USA 9.1A3 Paul Nash (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%284739,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29 )RSA 9.23 Lennox Miller (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%284506,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29 )JAM 9.2A5 Arnaldo Bristol (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%28783,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29) PUR 9.35 Clarence Ray (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%287962,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29 )USA 9.35 Jacob Henry (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%2815261,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%2 9)USA 9.35 Tommie Smith (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%286222,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29 )USA 9.3A5 Bill Miller (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%280,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29)US A 9.35 Kirk Clayton (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:CheckID%287644,%27M%27,%27MA0%27,%27All%27%29 )USA 9.3

I'll tell you what. If you can post a pic in the next hour of one of these old magazines you have laying around with some proof that it's you today, I'll not post for a while.

[IWantsACuatro]

I'll tell you what. If you can post a pic in the next hour of one of these old magazines you have laying around with some proof that it's you today, I'll not post for a while.


Deal!

[RaZon]

But you know what...I am willing to give you credit for making your lists vague enough that led me right into your troll. You got me.

I didn't do anything but assume the average human could figure out why a 9.3 just stood out there.

You honestly don't know shit about this do you?

[RaZon]

I'll tell you what. If you can post a pic in the next hour of one of these old magazines you have laying around with some proof that it's you today, I'll not post for a while.

If it's me.??? Don't get it.

I'm telling you man. big football/track freak here, for you to still play..."no you aren't"...why?

[Why?]

Why is it the same few posters in every razon thread?

[RaZon]

Why is it the same few posters in every razon thread?

Which does make one wonder...

Does RaZon have his few pets and knows how to work them?

[cantthinkofanything]

I didn't do anything but assume the average human could figure out why a 9.3 just stood out there.

You honestly don't know shit about this do you?

Right. I honestly didn't know that you decided to list a group of world class 110 hurdlers and were posting their top 100 meter times. And right, I didn't make the connection that he was running the 100 yard dash. The much simpler conclusion was that you were just being an idiot.

In any event, you busted my ass with that shit.

[IWantsACuatro]

Sorry I misunderstood.

Wariner is one of the greatest 400 guys ever. Xiang one of the greatest hurdlers,

Now lets look at all those great white 400m guys and Asian hurdlers. When compared to black 400 guys and 110hurdlers, Wariner and Xiang are oddties/rare. Not the norm at all.


IMO, I think it has alot to do with training and sample size. Most white sprinters run track to stay fit in the off-season sport(s) of their choice - football, whereas traditionally "white" sports such as soccer and baseball are in season during track season, so the best "white" athletes are already devoted.

The white sprinters are usually using track to train for something else, which gives them a huge disadvantage against other "real" track athletes who train specifically for that event year round. As with most sports, typically the younger you start, the better you'll do as you mature.

When you have a country such as Jamaica entirely devoted to one track event, you'll naturally have a high amount of sprinters coming out of that region. Are there any other countries in the world so devoted to that event?

As with alot of sprinters, most of them come out of high density urban centers that have a higher black population. Not only is there significantly more competition as a result, but you have a higher sample size to choose from.

Xiang and Wariner are "exceptions" because they've devoted their entire lives to that "one" event they're good at, despite not being black. Bob Hayes, as you stated, was the greatest sprinter ever. He would not have been if he only played football and then started running track.

[RaZon]

IMO, I think it has alot to do with training and sample size. Most white sprinters run track to stay fit in the off-season sport(s) of their choice - football, whereas traditionally "white" sports such as soccer and baseball are in season during track season, so the best "white" athletes are already devoted.

The white sprinters are usually using track to train for something else, which gives them a huge disadvantage against other "real" track athletes who train specifically for that event year round. As with most sports, typically the younger you start, the better you'll do as you mature.

When you have a country such as Jamaica entirely devoted to one track event, you'll naturally have a high amount of sprinters coming out of that region. Are there any other countries in the world so devoted to that event?

As with alot of sprinters, most of them come out of high density urban centers that have a higher black population. Not only is there significantly more competition as a result, but you have a higher sample size to choose from.

Xiang and Wariner are "exceptions" because they've devoted their entire lives to that "one" event they're good at, despite not being black. Bob Hayes, as you stated, was the greatest sprinter ever. He would not have been if he only played football and then started running track.


I really do appreciate the seriousness you displayed there. Obviously you've spent some time coming up with that.

Here's my take...

Asia, Germany, Poland. USSR etc have had sprinters. So how come none of those sprinters ever ran as fast as what we have seen coming out of poor Nigeria? China vs Nigeria when it comes to training....no contest. Yet, we never see a great Chinese 100m man. Nigeria has had a slew of sub10.00 guys. How come?

What we really have is a certain human being with roots to western Africa blessed with a unigue pyhsique. A physique with unique physical charactersistics that gives them an advantage in certain athletic events, events that require speed, agility and quicknesss.

Do you watch football? Ever notice (of course you do) those quick, speedy elusive black running backs and receivers. That is a trait found in abundance in black athletes. Go ahead give me the name of a similiar white athlete? How about the size with speed? Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker both around 220 pounds with great speed. How about tall and fast like Usain Bolt, Tommie Smith, Randy Moss? Where are the similiar white athletes?

Sure we'll see that once in awhile exception, but it is just that...rare.

It's not about anything other than unique physical characteristics we find in those with western African roots.

[RaZon]

Right. I honestly didn't know that you decided to list a group of world class 110 hurdlers and were posting their top 100 meter times. And right, I didn't make the connection that he was running the 100 yard dash. The much simpler conclusion was that you were just being an idiot.

In any event, you busted my ass with that shit.


I think the time has come to...finally!!!!!!!!!.....

you...ok man, you proved yourself, while it bugs the fuck out me to do this....you know your sprinting....nothing else however.
me...ah shucks.

[cantthinkofanything]

I think the time has come to...finally!!!!!!!!!.....

you...ok man, you proved yourself, while it bugs the fuck out me to do this....you know your sprinting....nothing else however.
me...ah shucks.

not exactly...but...whatever...

are you going to post that pic? I need to start planning what to do with the countless hours I waste here each day

[IWantsACuatro]

The former USSR has produced numerous modern day boxing champions whereas the US has slim to none white boxers. How so? It's the issue of time allocation between certain demographics of the population.

China triumphs in gymnastics and other "graceful" sports because that's what the national ideology is about. They also have the means to do so with how much they invest in equipment. Plus, as with training facilities, it's ALOT easier to go outside, draw a line, and run your ass off. All the extra training facilities and whatnot in sprinting is to prevent injury. Running is running, plain and simple.

I'm not going to have a google war with you, but as you might notice, the huge fast white people in football are usually put on defense as linebackers and safeties. Or they usually end up playing baseball.

[RaZon]

not exactly...but...whatever...

are you going to post that pic? I need to start planning what to do with the countless hours I waste here each day

So now I don't have old T&FN mags?

Let's break it down...

I must look fucked
I lie about everything
I don't know shit about music, football or track

Hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

Come on man...:rolleyes

Here you are running around with all that...yo mama...bullshit thinking it's what...cute? funny? creative? And I need to prove things....hahaha!!!!!!!

[Wild Cobra]

Did he run a 9.3 or not? The internet has what to do with that:rolleyes
Maybe the 9.3 was down hill...

[RaZon]

Maybe the 9.3 was down hill...

Bristol ran on one of the top 4x1 units in the nation back in his day. He ran for Texas Southern a school that gave/has given the sprint world...

Theo Bush
Charlie Frazier
Clyde Duncan
Jimmy Hines Oly gold
Robert Taylor Oly silver
Homer Jones
Willie Polk
Michael Miller
Ainsly Armstrong
Augustine Olobia...Nigeria
Renaldo Dawson

Right now they have a guy named Philip Riddick who is looking good.

[cantthinkofanything]

let's talk real sports slick...Renaldo Nehemiah...only 4 time winner of The Superstars. Because of his ability to leap and grab the top of the rope wall, he shaved off valuable seconds in the obstacle course which was the last event and usually determined the overall winner.

[RaZon]

let's talk real sports slick...Renaldo Nehemiah...only 4 time winner of The Superstars. Because of his ability to leap and grab the top of the rope wall, he shaved off valuable seconds in the obstacle course which was the last event and usually determined the overall winner.

Sure...

I have forgotten what year it was (:rolleyes) when Maryland showed up at the Penn Relays to run the 4x2 and the 4x4. Nehemiah would be anchoring both teams.

In the 4x2 Maryland was way down to LSU with Orlando McDaneil on the anchor leg. McDaneil also a hurdler, future NFL receiver. Nehemiah started running, with each stride he was gaining. The crowd was going bonkers with that ...wooooooooooooooooooooooo. Need I go on? Nehemiah had came from way back to win the 4x2.

Later in the meet....

At the final exchange Villanova with 45.6 guy Tim Dale on anchor has a sold 15 meters on Maryland. Need I go on? Yep, just like in the 4x2 Nehemiah stunned everyone. His split...44.3!

He stills holds the Maryland record in the 110's and 100m.

When the Niners tried him out he ran a hand timed...4.1.

Oh yeah....that 4.1 is a 40 time not a 100 yard or 100m ...ok?

[cantthinkofanything]

Sure...

I have forgotten what year it was (:rolleyes) when Maryland showed up at the Penn Relays to run the 4x2 and the 4x4. Nehemiah would be anchoring both teams.

In the 4x2 Maryland was way down to LSU with Orlando McDaneil on the anchor leg. McDaneil also a hurdler, future NFL receiver. Nehemiah started running, which each stride he was gaining. The crowd is going bonkers with that ...wooooooooooooooooooooooo. Need I go on? Nehemiah had came from way back to win the 4x2.

Later in the meet....

At the final exchange Villanova with 45.6 guy Tim Dale on anchor has a sold 15 meters on Maryland. Need I go on? Yep, just like in the 4x2 Nehemiah stunned everyone. His split...44.3!

He stills holds the Maryland record in the 110's and 100m.

When the Niners tried him out he ran a hand timed...4.1.

Me; Let's talk about The Superstars
You: More track stuff
Me: shaking...my head

[RaZon]

Me; Let's talk about The Superstars
You: More track stuff
Me: shaking...my head

ME..how in the hell do you know about Renaldo Nehemiah?

thinking...I'll give him something he knows nothing about to show the dummy just how great the guy was.

[RaZon]

The former USSR has produced numerous modern day boxing champions whereas the US has slim to none white boxers. How so? It's the issue of time allocation between certain demographics of the population.

China triumphs in gymnastics and other "graceful" sports because that's what the national ideology is about. They also have the means to do so with how much they invest in equipment. Plus, as with training facilities, it's ALOT easier to go outside, draw a line, and run your ass off. All the extra training facilities and whatnot in sprinting is to prevent injury. Running is running, plain and simple.

I'm not going to have a google war with you, but as you might notice, the huge fast white people in football are usually put on defense as linebackers and safeties. Or they usually end up playing baseball.

I don't need Google.

When we see anything as overwelming as black speed/quicks and agility it's not about what you are talking about. It's about those unique physical characteristics I mentioned.

All countries have their sprinters. So why is it only the black sprinters run sub 9.90? Why are all the cornerbacks in the NFL black? Why are all the starting running backs black? Why are most the wide receivers black? Why do blacks hold all the sprint records? Why do we see all the age records held by blacks?

Ever see a white guy do this?

c2SpdESsTXo (http://c2SpdESsTXo)

That could be...

Billy "White Shoes" Johnson
Brian Mitchell
Nolan Smith
Gale Sayers
Ron Brown
Michael Bates
Cecil Turner
Dante Hall
Travis Williams
Ollie Matson
Bobby Mitchell
etc etc etc and etc.


Where are those white American female sprinters?


Who was the fastest white NFL player? The list of sub10.40/9.5 black NFLers is a mile long.

Black Olympic sprinters in the NFL.

Ollie Matson
Larry Burton
Gerald Tinker
Bob Hayes
Henry Carr
Frank Budd
Ray Norton
Johnny Jones
James Jett
Michael Bates
Ron Brown
Sam Graddy

A white guy doing this?

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How about this?

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This is a black thing.

rNQvFQM2yrE (http://rNQvFQM2yrE)

Now add...

Eric Dickerson
Jimmy Brown
Walter Payton
Tony Dorsett
Marcus Allen
Emmitt Smith
Edgerrin James
Paul Lowe
Marshall Faulk
Ladainian Tomlinson
O.J.Simpson
Bo Jackson
Adrian Peterson
Chris Johnson
Curtis Martin
Abner Haynes
Timmy Brown
Thurmon Thomas
Reggie Bush
Billy Sims
Mercury Morris
Roger Craig
Brian Westbrook
Mike Garrett
Wilbert Montgomery
Willie Galimore
Dick Bass
Terry Metcalf
Greg Pruitt
Chuck Foreman
Joe "The Jet" Perry
etc etc etc

Keep in mind blacks make up about 14% of America. Take away the women, those under 20 and over 30 and we are talking 3/4% of Americans are giving us all our speed. Amazing!

It all started with this guy. He was an NCAA/AAU 100 champ and the first real speedy/elusive black NFL back.


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There he is Claude "Buddy" Young from the early 40's.



1 Charles Parker (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(5095,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.61 Claude Young (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(7390,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.61 M. Lytle (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(18320,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.64 Perry Samuels (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(5816,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.74 Walter Newman (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(16203,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.74 James Pettit (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(7643,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.74 Don Anderson (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(141,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.78 Eddie Conwell (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(1251,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.88 Ralph Ellisworth (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(16204,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.88 Bill Lund (http://javascript<b></b>:CheckID(16200,'M','','1944','T'))USA 9.8


All the training in the world won't give you that kind of speed/agility/elusiveness as we saw in those videos. You either have it or you don't. As we see in every sprint/football game blacks have it.

Oh yeah, the fastest white NFLer? John Roderick a legit 9.3 guy out of SMU, he played for the Dolphins. Did nothing.

[Darth_Pelican]

racist

[Blake]

racist

Uh oh. Now he's gonna troll us with a waterfall of lists. Because he's the troll here.

[Clipper Nation]

So when you list those times for the men's 110 hurdles, this if off the top of your head? And you really had no clue that they were all a couple seconds faster than the current world record?

And even though your troll spelling sucks, you're able to correctly remember and type the spelling of all these sprinters. Some with unusual names. And you don't have Google? Come on slick. Step up your game...why don't you
Damn... the resident track expert shitting on Avante per par :wow

[Darth_Pelican]

Damn... the resident track expert shitting on Avante per par :wow

Even back in 2012 he was running circles around Avante.

[spurraider21]

Even back in 2012 he was running circles around Avante.
i like the track metaphor :tu

[140]

Pedovante exposed yet another time :lol

[Avante]

I put out the challenge, nobody took me up on it.

I have no equal when it comes to the who, where and when pertaining to track. And totally prepared to prove it.

So who is up first?

Now watch as nobody steps up, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~:blah

[Avante]

MAGAZINES.....over 55 years of....TRACK...AND...FIELD....NEWS....MAGAZINE..... not Google, no searches needed. Every fucking thing that happens in track is covered by......TRACK....AND....FIELD....NEWS.....MAGAZINE ......ok?

Now add books....Who is Who in Track....as an example....ok?

I have a notebook with over 70 schools. I keep up with their 4x1, 4x4 relays, their top two....

100
200
400
110hh
Long Jump

Ok?

No mention of a middle school kid runnig 19.5-20.5.

[Avante]

Speaking of racism.

I was born and raised in central Cali, this region of the world has given the track world...

Olympians

Rafer Johnson Kingsburg... decathlon gold
Leamon King Delano....gold 4x1
Randy Williams and Maxie Parks Fresno.....gold long jump/4x4
Lee Evans Madera.....gold 400/4x4
Tommie Smith Lemoore...gold 200m

NFL players

Mark Lee, Jewerl Thomas, Ken Thomas Hanford
Jim Johnson (bro) Kingsburg
Virgil Green, Ryan Benjamin, Freddy Ford Tulare
Henry Ellard Fresno
Ryan Matthews Bakersfield
Lorenzo Neal Lemoore

All black.

Where are the Mexican Americans****, Asian American, Okies? So what is really going on there, well?

That list of great tracksters just not Olympians from around here who were black is a mile long, ask me and I'll prove it.

And all of you reading this have the exact same thing going on where you're at. Why act like this isn't how things are? Go to a track meet in Texas at any level and guess what you'll be seeing?

8 sprinters just broke the NCAA 4x1, 4x4 records....7....black.

YES....the races are different, so what's the big deal with simply going with reality?

**** Lupe Sanchez UCLA/Steelers, actually led the AFC in punt returns one season. Played on our flag team (same HS), yep, a whole other level. Been a few whites, but FAR more blacks.

This kid was incredible at Tulare Union, some of the runs he made were impossible. How he didn't make the Redskins...?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTv_oE-3fls

I cannot believe by now you little shits haven't figured this out....................old geek really into track, them blues and football, kinda freakish actually.

Stop fighting the obvious, makes ya look retarded. Embrace it and learn some things, I would.

First Alumni football game I played in was vs Tulare Union and the great John Henry Hamilton. Who was a shot putter/RB, think about that.