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ElNono
04-30-2012, 06:51 PM
Does he?

Spursfan092120
04-30-2012, 06:52 PM
:lmao

pass1st
04-30-2012, 06:56 PM
No because he was ROY and Kobe lost that title to Iverson, tbh

ElNono
04-30-2012, 06:58 PM
No because he was ROY and Kobe lost that title to Iverson, tbh

You could always say Kobe is as good as Iverson... I would buy that argument...

pass1st
04-30-2012, 07:00 PM
You could always say Kobe is as good as Iverson... I would buy that argument...

AI is one of the top 3 chuckers in basketball history, up there with the great Gilbert Arenas. Kobe has to earn his keep to be in that list

Riddler
04-30-2012, 07:00 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/10/10/128996797916460270.jpg

KoolAid Mans Brother
04-30-2012, 07:02 PM
Yes.

ElNono
04-30-2012, 07:08 PM
AI is one of the top 3 chuckers in basketball history, up there with the great Gilbert Arenas. Kobe has to earn his keep to be in that list

What do you mean? Kobe surpassed Iverson in FGA almost two seasons ago...

Venti Quattro
04-30-2012, 07:09 PM
Willis Reed > Kobe

He wasn't injured and had the courage to play in a Game 7, and then proceeded to skunk the opposition.

lefty
04-30-2012, 07:10 PM
Does he?

:lmao

pass1st
04-30-2012, 07:20 PM
What do you mean? Kobe surpassed Iverson in FGA almost two seasons ago...

Kobe is still over 45% in his career, he needs to get under 43% to be Iverson level

Ashy Larry
04-30-2012, 07:24 PM
I would think so ..... but just barely.

ElNono
04-30-2012, 07:32 PM
Kobe is still over 45% in his career, he needs to get under 43% to be Iverson level

Not sure I would agree with 43% being the cutoff... I would actually argue 45% is fairly chucky compared to the greats... (MJ: 49%, Magic: 52%, Bird: 49%, Reed: 47% Duncan: 50%, etc)

baseline bum
04-30-2012, 07:35 PM
Kobe is still over 45% in his career, he needs to get under 43% to be Iverson level

But the rape makes up that ground.

Venti Quattro
04-30-2012, 07:41 PM
Raping is -2% FG :lol

Splits
04-30-2012, 07:49 PM
John Salley? Will Purdue? Horseface Grant?

pass1st
04-30-2012, 08:17 PM
Not sure I would agree with 43% being the cutoff... I would actually argue 45% is fairly chucky compared to the greats... (MJ: 49%, Magic: 52%, Bird: 49%, Reed: 47% Duncan: 50%, etc)

I believe 45% is the cutoff for guards, when you're volume scoring at 43% then you can be mentioned with the greats like AI and Arenas. He's showing promise this season :tu

baseline bum
04-30-2012, 08:26 PM
Raping is -2% FG :lol

Normally I'd have it worth -5%, but Iverson's riot counts for 3% tbh.

jestersmash
04-30-2012, 08:33 PM
The dividing line between chucker and "he should be shooting that much given his FG%" has always been murky.

For guards, 45% has always been "acceptable-good" IMO. It's not the best, but I wouldn't count 45% as "chucker" status.

The line is probably around 42-43%.

And troll post notwithstanding, you can't compare Kobe's career FG% to Duncan's career FG%. Duncan is a big. Bigs are expected to have a better FG% simply because they're around the rim more often.

50% is "good" shooting for a big, whereas 45% is "good" for a guard.

As a fellow guard, M.J. is a valid example, but only the most delusional of Lakerfans think Kobe deserves to be in the same discussion as M.J. (just like delusional Spurfans think Ginobili deserves to be in the same discussion as Kobe), so it's really a moot comparison. You can't point to M.J.'s absurd FG% and say "Here, look, at what M.J. shot! Chucker status should therefore be delegated to those who volume shoot but make < 45% from the field."

50% is absurd for a guard. M.J.'s FG% shouldn't be the standard for what constitutes "good" shooting for a guard. His career FG% is off the charts for a guard that averaged > 20 PPG.

ElNono
04-30-2012, 08:49 PM
I believe 45% is the cutoff for guards, when you're volume scoring at 43% then you can be mentioned with the greats like AI and Arenas. He's showing promise this season :tu

He also did it back 2 back in his first two seasons...

ElNono
04-30-2012, 08:50 PM
And troll post notwithstanding, you can't compare Kobe's career FG% to Duncan's career FG%. Duncan is a big.

Well, dumb threads comparing the two have happened before. No, really. :lol

pass1st
04-30-2012, 08:53 PM
He also did it back 2 back in his first two seasons...

Come on el, you know we never count Kobe's non-starter seasons

ElNono
04-30-2012, 09:09 PM
Come on el, you know we never count Kobe's non-starter seasons

that's right, that's like counting MJ's Wizard years.... my bad :lol

ChrisRichards
04-30-2012, 09:30 PM
Would finally pass Olajuwon on my list if he gets # 3 this year.

LkrFan
04-30-2012, 09:34 PM
I would have never expected a thread like this from El NoNo. It reaks of butthurtness. I'm here for you El NonNo. Let the hurt from within come out. You'll feel better in no time. I just know it! ;)

- Sy
- Butthurt Committee Chairman

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