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Spurs Brazil
04-30-2012, 10:31 PM
Somewhere during the 4,500-mile round trip, Utah coach Tyrone Corbin must hope to find a way to slow Spurs point guard Tony Parker, who torched the Jazz in Game 1. Stephen Jackson has one suggestion. Jazz point guard Devin Harris has another.

“Maybe give him a hard foul or two,” Harris told reporters in Utah on Monday.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/04/30/parker-enters-utahs-crosshairs/

100%duncan
04-30-2012, 10:34 PM
Better be sure with his choice of words. Jax might be the first one to pounce on him.

vander
04-30-2012, 10:36 PM
premeditated, flagrant 3

weebo
04-30-2012, 10:36 PM
resorting to cheap tactics to stop an opposing player indicates you have already lost that battle

you wouldn't think tony would be intimidated one bit...he's heard this shit before from the mavs

WeNeedLength
04-30-2012, 10:38 PM
Does Devin know what happens when you mess with Captain Jack's teammates??

http://espn.go.com/photo/2009/1118/nba_a_sjackson_600.jpg

tmtcsc
04-30-2012, 10:39 PM
resorting to cheap tactics to stop an opposing player indicates you have already lost that battle

you wouldn't think tony would be intimidated one bit...he's heard this shit before from the mavs

This thing was over the moment they beat Phoenix. Harris is going to get hurt. Let's hope Dejuan does the dirty work. We can't afford to lose anyone else.

Venti Quattro
04-30-2012, 10:40 PM
They're not going to try and hurt him. That's the last thing in their mind right now -- to infuriate the Spurs

slick'81
04-30-2012, 10:42 PM
tbh what else can they do?!? parker owned them in every way and other than making him taste some wood they be fcked

Splits
04-30-2012, 10:42 PM
Devin Harris, Steve Blake is on line 1:

http://209.160.24.97/ds_img_direct.php?i=sbsj.gif&t=8&d=1fjdcjav7c&x=360&y=480&l1=169&l2=61

Obstructed_View
04-30-2012, 10:43 PM
Isn't that always the plan?

gospursgojas
04-30-2012, 10:57 PM
resorting to cheap tactics to stop an opposing player indicates you have already lost that battle

you wouldn't think tony would be intimidated one bit...he's heard this shit before from the mavs

I agree 100%. See Denver Nuggets, Seattle Supersonics, Mavs.

Although the Mavs did end up winning the series they "threatened" tony, its bc the spurs sucked that year...not just tony.

The hard foul card is a final resort. If youre out of options already and hard fouls are your only saving grace aaaaannd its only been 1 game, well as the quoted poster said: youve lost the battle.

lefty
04-30-2012, 11:01 PM
aaah

Juwan Howard going bananas on Derek Anderson


Good times










Not :pctoss

TampaDude
04-30-2012, 11:01 PM
Dear Jazz,

Prepare to get broomed.

Signed,

The Spurs

spursfan1000
04-30-2012, 11:06 PM
i say pop let jackson guard harris next game haha

smrattler
04-30-2012, 11:15 PM
I was going to say we could do the same to him to slow him down.

But I don't think we could slow him down anymore without him going backwards.

Blackjack
04-30-2012, 11:22 PM
If I'm a Jazz fan, I wanna hear that, but more importantly, see that happen. Don't really have a problem with it.

But:

1.) It's stupid - you're askin the officials and League to look for somethin; and

2.) It's a sign of desperation.

Pendejo . . .

Blackjack
04-30-2012, 11:22 PM
If I'm a Jazz fan, I wanna hear that, but more importantly, see that happen. Don't really have a problem with it.

But:

1.) It's stupid - you're askin the officials and League to look for somethin; and

2.) It's a sign of desperation.

Pendejo . . .

MannyIsGod
04-30-2012, 11:38 PM
Yeah because in all his time in the NBA no one has tried to stop Tony from getting in the lane with hard fouls. SMH.

FromWayDowntown
04-30-2012, 11:39 PM
The surest sign that the Spurs are playing well at playoff time is some phony tough guy telling the media that someone needs to put a hard foul on Parker.

Sense
04-30-2012, 11:43 PM
Players somehow think that doing that will win them games, but in the end it's just one of the many things that other teams have tried to resort to that has caused them to fall fast.

100%duncan
04-30-2012, 11:44 PM
The surest sign that the Spurs are playing well at playoff time is some phony tough guy telling the media that someone needs to put a hard foul on Parker.

Far from tough.

Russo21
04-30-2012, 11:55 PM
Fuck Harris. If he or someone else does something then i hope they just get suspended. After Artest etc. the leage wont let things get out of hand, hopefully anyway.

Secondly, man i love Stephen Jackson on the Spurs. Tim Duncan is on record saying he's the best teammate you could hope for. Stephen Jackson was an amazing addition for the spurs.

Jackson has his teammates backs, always. He'll do anything to defend and stand up for our players. Heck, he'd even run into the stands and... well i wont go into that. The swagger and attitude is great for our team. Such a massive upgrade over Jefferson. Even if his numbers arent way better, he just brings some nastiness and fire to the team. Love Jackson to bits.

Let's hope we get through this series quickly and stay healthy (damn you tiago)

ElNono
04-30-2012, 11:58 PM
Harris is a pussy, he won't do it himself. Frankly, the only idiot on that team that could pull something like that is Raja Bell, and I would love if he sees the floor for even 10 mins. He's so done that not even Jazzfans want him out there.

KaiRMD1
05-01-2012, 12:00 AM
I don't think hard fouls are smart anymore with the new attitude that the Spurs have been showing. They may not punch any players out but then will kick your ass on the scoreboard, just ask Steve Blake after trying to take out Ginobili.

ducks
05-01-2012, 12:06 AM
sounds like blair has jazz ass to whip

hopefully sj does not do anything to get suspended...

Spursfan092120
05-01-2012, 12:08 AM
http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/3879101/20120429_jel_ai1_037_extra_large.jpg
Let's take Tony out.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gTMaap6ubUA/SwLNqRG2nCI/AAAAAAAAAag/pnNsiMPXAvs/s1600/stephen-jackson.jpg
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID24396/images/resized_happyjack.jpg

http://espn.go.com/photo/2009/1118/nba_a_sjackson_600.jpg
I will BREAK MY FOOT OFF IN YO ASS, SON!

http://fringebowlteamblog.com/images/the_rock_clap_clap_gif.gif

100%duncan
05-01-2012, 12:18 AM
sounds like blair has jazz ass to whip

hopefully sj does not do anything to get suspended...

I'm surprised at how you responded calmly to this topic. :lol

DMC
05-01-2012, 12:47 AM
The Lakers did that to Tony several years ago after Tony torched them in a playoff game. They put him on his ass a few times, flops not required. He stopped driving into the paint and the Spurs lost. That was the year of .4 tbh.

He's different now. If they put a lick on him, he's going to go off for 40. Once those eyebrows furrow, he's in full attack mode, injuries be damned.

spurs10
05-01-2012, 12:59 AM
Devon Harris must be being paid by our payroll because he just lit a fire under everyone in a Spurs uniform.

T Park
05-01-2012, 01:06 AM
The surest sign that the Spurs are playing well at playoff time is some phony tough guy telling the media that someone needs to put a hard foul on Parker.

Yes sir....

MI21
05-01-2012, 01:24 AM
Hard fouls actually seem to make Parker focus more and be more aggressive. Been like that for years now.

Wouldn't be the best move by the Jazz.

spurs10
05-01-2012, 01:42 AM
Hard fouls actually seem to make Parker focus more and be more aggressive. Been like that for years now.

Wouldn't be the best move by the Jazz.
True

bulakenyo
05-01-2012, 01:52 AM
I don't think hard fouls are smart anymore with the new attitude that the Spurs have been showing. They may not punch any players out but then will kick your ass on the scoreboard, just ask Steve Blake after trying to take out Ginobili.

Can anybody here tell me the story about that GIF with Capt. Jack and Steve Blake??

I didnt see all Spurs games this year.

Thanks.

FromWayDowntown
05-01-2012, 01:55 AM
Hard fouls actually seem to make Parker focus more and be more aggressive. Been like that for years now.

Wouldn't be the best move by the Jazz.

"Don't do that. You'll only make him angry. You won't like him when he's angry."

Manu-20
05-01-2012, 01:59 AM
Can anybody here tell me the story about that GIF with Capt. Jack and Steve Blake??

I didnt see all Spurs games this year.

Thanks.
After Blake gave Ginobili a hard foul Jackson went after steve telling him off and Blake just backed away from him, not a single hard foul towards ginobili the rest of the game from blake after that.

therealtruth
05-01-2012, 02:40 AM
The Lakers did that to Tony several years ago after Tony torched them in a playoff game. They put him on his ass a few times, flops not required. He stopped driving into the paint and the Spurs lost. That was the year of .4 tbh.

He's different now. If they put a lick on him, he's going to go off for 40. Once those eyebrows furrow, he's in full attack mode, injuries be damned.

The way to stop him is to pack the paint and run the shooters of the line.

BlairForceDejuan
05-01-2012, 04:02 AM
fuk yo hard fouls clown

Obstructed_View
05-01-2012, 04:58 AM
The way to stop him is to pack the paint and run the shooters of the line.

Yeah, that's what the Lakers did. They never fouled him, they just prevented him from penetrating, which killed the Spurs. Phil Jackson knew Parker was the head of the snake.

racm
05-01-2012, 06:04 AM
Devin Harris and Tony Parker were both good five years ago.

But Harris got worse and Parker turned into this team's MVP.

K-State Spur
05-01-2012, 07:05 AM
The Lakers did that to Tony several years ago after Tony torched them in a playoff game. They put him on his ass a few times, flops not required. He stopped driving into the paint and the Spurs lost. That was the year of .4 tbh.

Nay, it was switching Kobe to him that kept him out of the lane after game 2 with his quickness & length.

Back in those days, a motivated Kobe was a hell of a defender.

Lot of teams have knocked TP down over the years, but I haven't seen anybody make him gun shy if the lane was still there.

Leetonidas
05-01-2012, 07:52 AM
Hopefully they do it to Ginobili instead and he goes apeshit

bulakenyo
05-01-2012, 08:00 AM
After Blake gave Ginobili a hard foul Jackson went after steve telling him off and Blake just backed away from him, not a single hard foul towards ginobili the rest of the game from blake after that.

:lol

That's nice.

coyotes_geek
05-01-2012, 08:17 AM
Can't foul what you can't catch............

T Park
05-01-2012, 08:30 AM
Hopefully they do it to Ginobili instead and he goes apeshit

I'd be more worried about injury with him....

The Whopper
05-01-2012, 08:48 AM
The way to stop him is to pack the paint and run the shooters of the line.

Or stand back and watch Hedo Turkoglu crap all over himself.

gameFACE
05-01-2012, 09:15 AM
Harris still has to bring a note from his parents just to play. But you sound real tough, mijo.

Whisky Dog
05-01-2012, 09:16 AM
I guess this means theyve given up on actually trying to play defense. It makes the kill easier but a little less satisfying.

timtonymanurich
05-01-2012, 10:05 AM
The Lakers did that to Tony several years ago after Tony torched them in a playoff game. They put him on his ass a few times, flops not required. He stopped driving into the paint and the Spurs lost. That was the year of .4 tbh.

He's different now. If they put a lick on him, he's going to go off for 40. Once those eyebrows furrow, he's in full attack mode, injuries be damned.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

WIN

:king:king:flag::flag::ihit:ihit

timtonymanurich
05-01-2012, 10:13 AM
fuk yo hard fouls clown

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Win X2

I'll bet that's EXACTLY what Stephen Jackson fumed at Cracker Blake.

Singed the hair right offa Blake too.

SPURS WILL HOIST #5 AT THE END. :lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

Rummpd
05-01-2012, 10:33 AM
time for Blair to take one for the team and "bump" Harris about 20 feet.

spursfaninla
05-01-2012, 10:47 AM
He does not know what else to say.

However, the hard foul IS a solution over the course of a series to neutralize a team that is too dependent on one player scoring inside, be it through drives to the basket or post play. I remember the year Phoenix went to the finals against the Bulls, and the Bulls somewhat neutralized Barkley by simply beating him up. He scored, but the toll on him was noticeable.

Since we have plenty of other scorers, we can spread out the drives between tony and other players, and mitigate against tony taking too many hits. Then, they will foul out trying to hit sjax, green, leonard, manu, tony, and neal going into the lane off cuts or pick-n-roll.

If we only had manu and tony, fouling hard over a series could effect us to be a concern.

Brazil
05-01-2012, 10:56 AM
fuck yo bounty clown

Creation88
05-01-2012, 11:17 AM
doesn't Harris know that the Lakers resulted to that tactic all those early 2000s series and one of them ended up with Kobe crying on the bench.

Drachen
05-01-2012, 11:23 AM
After Blake gave Ginobili a hard foul Jackson went after steve telling him off and Blake just backed away from him, not a single hard foul towards ginobili the rest of the game from blake after that.

and this whole sequence happened after blake was trying to beat on gino on the other end.

Venti Quattro
05-01-2012, 11:27 AM
imo It was dumb of him to blurt it out to the media. Now the Spurs (and possibly, the referees) are going to take a closer look at their fouls.

Drachen
05-01-2012, 11:32 AM
time for Blair to take one for the team and "bump" Harris about 20 feet.

He is too nice for something like this. Just because they have similar builds, we are not talking about antoine carr here.



Oh I loved having the Big Dawg as one of our players.

SpurinDallas
05-01-2012, 11:36 AM
Not too worried about a guy trying to sag and look like a thuggish painter while posing with an Omega Mu and drinking an Apple Martini

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8849/harrisj.jpg

boutons_deux
05-01-2012, 11:39 AM
Harris saying "Let's you and him go fight"

lefty
05-01-2012, 11:44 AM
http://b.vimeocdn.com/ts/180/832/180832647_640.jpg

mando6599
05-01-2012, 12:07 PM
Jeff McDonald ‏ @JMcDonald_SAEN

Tony Parker unfazed by Devin Harris' promise of "a hard foul or two" in Game 2.

Jeff McDonald ‏ @JMcDonald_SAEN


Parker: "It's not the first time someone has said that. My answer is always going to be the same. I'm going to keep coming."

easy7
05-01-2012, 12:51 PM
Sounds like a good PPV match. Come on WWE, make it happen...

William Hung
05-01-2012, 12:57 PM
I would suggest Harris work on his shot selection. He looked like a disgruntled Mike Bibby on Sunday.

cd98
05-01-2012, 01:13 PM
Thanks Harris for prepping the refs to call the next "hard foul" a flagrant 2 and eject the player. Now you have given them something to anticipate.

And just so you know, it's not the first time Tony Parker has dominated in the paint and needed a "hard foul." It's never stopped him before. Don't think it will make much difference now.

Obstructed_View
05-01-2012, 02:33 PM
Probably sounded scarier when Carlos Boozer announced it to the media during the '07 playoffs. Worked like a charm though. Parker had like 15 points and 15 assists in the close-out game against them.

FromWayDowntown
05-01-2012, 02:36 PM
Harris saying "Let's you and him go fight"

:lol

Budkin
05-01-2012, 02:58 PM
Devin Harris doesn't have shit on Parker anymore.

Budkin
05-01-2012, 03:00 PM
doesn't Harris know that the Lakers resulted to that tactic all those early 2000s series and one of them ended up with Kobe crying on the bench.

Unfortunately after game 2 of 2004 against the Lakers that's exactly what Karl Malone said and did and it worked. Devin Harris != Karl Malone though.

SpurinDallas
05-01-2012, 03:02 PM
Karl Malone say: Devin, call me
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3507/malone.jpg

lefty
05-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Its a good thing Harris said something like that

Now the Spurs are pissed for the rest of the playoffs


Watch out, NBA

PingPong
05-01-2012, 05:55 PM
Some players do it without telling it to the media. That effin Blake Griffin does it all the time and the referers simply ignore it because he's the superstar. Just pay attenttion.

Spurs Brazil
05-01-2012, 08:04 PM
Before the Jazz practiced Tuesday morning, coach Tyrone Corbin compared Parker to Hall of Famer John Stockton, as far as being a control-the-game point guard.

"You look back when we had Stock here — how much he had the ball in his hands and how much everything fed off what he did with the ball," Corbin said. "Same with [Parker]. He is the guy for them. Ginobili and Duncan are great players and they are a huge part of what they do. But it all starts with Tony and him having the ball."

So how can the Jazz slow Parker, who quarterbacked the second-highest scoring team in the league this season?

"We have to give him different looks," Corbin said, "... whether that’s [focusing] on him or trying to take something else away at different times. You can’t give him a steady dose of the same thing or he’ll pick you apart."

The Jazz must do a better job of battling the screens — usually set by Duncan — that are so effective at getting Parker the bit of daylight he needs to break down the defense.

"You don’t know what side they are coming from," Utah’s Jamaal Tinsley said. "You don’t know what angle they are coming from. ... As guards, we have to put more pressure on the ball and not worry about where the screens are coming from. And our ‘bigs’ have to do a lot of talking."

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/54026422-77/jazz-parker-game-guard.html.csp

DMC
05-01-2012, 08:09 PM
The way to stop him is to pack the paint and run the shooters of the line.

Because the Jazz have 10 players on the floor at the same time to get that done.

DMC
05-01-2012, 08:12 PM
Before the Jazz practiced Tuesday morning, coach Tyrone Corbin compared Parker to Hall of Famer John Stockton, as far as being a control-the-game point guard.

"You look back when we had Stock here — how much he had the ball in his hands and how much everything fed off what he did with the ball," Corbin said. "Same with [Parker]. He is the guy for them. Ginobili and Duncan are great players and they are a huge part of what they do. But it all starts with Tony and him having the ball."

So how can the Jazz slow Parker, who quarterbacked the second-highest scoring team in the league this season?

"We have to give him different looks," Corbin said, "... whether that’s [focusing] on him or trying to take something else away at different times. You can’t give him a steady dose of the same thing or he’ll pick you apart."

The Jazz must do a better job of battling the screens — usually set by Duncan — that are so effective at getting Parker the bit of daylight he needs to break down the defense.

"You don’t know what side they are coming from," Utah’s Jamaal Tinsley said. "You don’t know what angle they are coming from. ... As guards, we have to put more pressure on the ball and not worry about where the screens are coming from. And our ‘bigs’ have to do a lot of talking."

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/54026422-77/jazz-parker-game-guard.html.csp

Funny stuff. What, Corbin never heard of Parker before that 1st playoff game? If he has the answer to Tony, why did he need a refresher on what Tony does?

I always find it funny when opposing coaches pretend to know how to stop a guy like Tony, Tim, Kobe, Lebron, anyone like that. I understand game to game tweaks, but Corbin seems to imply that no one knew Tony would pick you apart if you gave him looks, but then Tony wasn't given looks, he took them.

Russ
05-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Jeff McDonald ‏ @JMcDonald_SAEN

Parker: "It's not the first time someone has said that. My answer is always going to be the same. I'm going to keep coming."

TP has come a long way since the '04 Laker series. :toast

TheSkeptic
05-01-2012, 08:13 PM
Because the Jazz have 10 players on the floor at the same time to get that done.

Yeah actually. I was just going to say that while that is a sound strategy I don't think the Jazz have the personnel for it.

100%duncan
05-01-2012, 09:26 PM
TP gon' be tappin that scrub's ass.

Manu-20
05-01-2012, 11:09 PM
Yeah actually. I was just going to say that while that is a sound strategy I don't think the Jazz have the personnel for it.
I don't think anyone can do this to the spurs anymore we are a much more diferent team and have to much shooters, also something else that makes this difficult to do is how much the spurs run the pick and roll getting the big man out of the paint and bonner spreading the floor, hell even diaw the way he has been shooting the ball lately.

therealtruth
05-02-2012, 01:19 AM
TP has come a long way since the '04 Laker series. :toast

The Grizzlies used the same strategy last year and it worked.

TheSkeptic
05-02-2012, 01:26 AM
I don't think anyone can do this to the spurs anymore we are a much more diferent team and have to much shooters, also something else that makes this difficult to do is how much the spurs run the pick and roll getting the big man out of the paint and bonner spreading the floor, hell even diaw the way he has been shooting the ball lately.

I'm beginning to think that's probably the root cause of Pop's ongoing love affair with stretch 4s. :lol

I was thinking in terms of this series but I would agree with your overall assessment. Other than the Heat and maybe Memphis I just don't see any teams that have the players (let alone the system) needed to stop us spacing-wise. That versatility will definitely help the team later on. Winning or losing in the later rounds will most likely come down to our defense and Bonner I think. So far so good on those counts imo.

Obstructed_View
05-02-2012, 10:01 AM
The Grizzlies used the same strategy last year and it worked.

No they didn't. Their strategy was to hope that Parker played like shit. It worked, but that doesn't make it a sound strategy.

Spur|n|Austin
05-02-2012, 11:13 AM
No they didn't. Their strategy was to hope that Parker played like shit. It worked, but that doesn't make it a sound strategy.

:lol true

LoneStarState'sPride
05-02-2012, 11:23 AM
No they didn't. Their strategy was to hope that Parker played like shit. It worked, but that doesn't make it a sound strategy.

To be fair, that's actually been a pretty sound strategy since Parker's been with the Spurs since he's been so hot/cold over the years in the playoffs (aka Speedy Claxton and Jacque Vaughn bailing him out in the '03 and '05 Finals :lol).

This year TP is on a mission--but I hope our opponents keep playing him the same way.

cantthinkofanything
05-02-2012, 11:26 AM
LOL at Harris giving someone a "hard" foul. I'm sure the bigs would say, "uh, if our point could just stay in front of him."

JazzFanz69
05-02-2012, 12:39 PM
No one is scared of Stephen Jackson.

Obstructed_View
05-02-2012, 01:59 PM
To be fair, that's actually been a pretty sound strategy since Parker's been with the Spurs since he's been so hot/cold over the years in the playoffs (aka Speedy Claxton and Jacque Vaughn bailing him out in the '03 and '05 Finals :lol).

This year TP is on a mission--but I hope our opponents keep playing him the same way.

Is this misinformation day? Some of you guys need to do some fucking research before you post.

dbreiden83080
05-02-2012, 02:22 PM
Always hated that prick..

spurs10
05-02-2012, 02:36 PM
LOL at Harris giving someone a "hard" foul. I'm sure the bigs would say, "uh, if our point could just stay in front of him."
Word...

z0sa
05-02-2012, 02:45 PM
Ty Corbin should suggest a quick step or two in front of Tony Parker.

timvp
05-02-2012, 03:06 PM
To be fair, that's actually been a pretty sound strategy since Parker's been with the Spurs since he's been so hot/cold over the years in the playoffs (aka Speedy Claxton and Jacque Vaughn bailing him out in the '03 and '05 Finals :lol).

NASFs ... just wow.

Budkin
05-02-2012, 03:06 PM
I can't wait to see Parker shit on Harris tonight.

Budkin
05-02-2012, 03:08 PM
To be fair, that's actually been a pretty sound strategy since Parker's been with the Spurs since he's been so hot/cold over the years in the playoffs (aka Speedy Claxton and Jacque Vaughn bailing him out in the '03 and '05 Finals :lol).

This year TP is on a mission--but I hope our opponents keep playing him the same way.

The only game that Speedy bailed TP out was the title clinching game in 2003, and 2005? Jacque Vaughn wasn't even on that team. When he was in 2007, Parker was MVP of the Finals. Not sure what you're talking about.