Kobe Bryant's rape case trial season

[ChrisRichards]

I was reading an article regarding Jordan Hill's assault case and immediately thought of Kobe. Dave Chappelle made a joke about Kobe and the rape case. He said if Kobe cracked under pressure, the public was gonna be all over him. Instead, Kobe for the most part that year did pretty good for someone facing a sexual assault case.



I didn't follow the NBA that year tbqh. I was bummed out for a few years after Jordan retired and lost interest so I don't know how big of a deal this was.


Can anyone recall how NBA fans were treating Kobe everytime he visits another arena? Were people chanting "Rapist"? What type of stuff do fans hold up when he's at the line?


What was he general consensus among fans his peers or sports writers that time? Guilty? What was Shaq and Phil's reaction?


Was there ever a smoking gun proving he did/didn't do it?

[Giuseppe]

He was extremely fortunate to get away with rape. He was in a bad state, but, once he raped he never made another mis-step. His people came into that room and wiped it clean. Then he hired that junkyard dog attorney and turned her loose inside an Eagle courtroom. She blasted hair all over those fuckin' walls. She almost resigned after he went on the dais that night with his wife, but, that proved to be a boon as well. Then he played the race card.

Me? With dual citizenship? I'd a gotten on the Lear.

[TheSkeptic]

Has it ever been proven that he was (or wasn't) guilty of that?

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Has it ever been proven that he was (or wasn't) guilty of that?

Who cares?

[Giuseppe]

Has it ever been proven that he was (or wasn't) guilty of that?

Of course he was guilty. He said so in the off the record settlement statement. Is he a common variety rapist? No. Did she say 'no?' Yes. Did he listen? 'No.'

He got out of Colorado as soon as he could. That was key. Then he got the right lawyer & she buried that little hamlet under a ton of paper.

[Spurtacus]

Has it ever been proven that he was (or wasn't) guilty of that?

He's guilty of being a cheating dumbass who got caught and paid off his wife with a million dollar ring.

[Giuseppe]

He's guilty of being a cheating dumbass who got caught and paid off his wife with a million dollar ring.

Ya idiot. He bought that ring before he raped. You don't buy a ring like that off the rack.

[Spurtacus]

Ya idiot. He bought that ring before he raped. You don't buy a ring like that off the rack.

I'm sure he did. It was his "Emergency: Only open when I rape" ring.

[Giuseppe]

I'm sure he did. It was his "Emergency: Only open when I rape" ring.

:rolleyes

Ya fuckin' fruitcake, you.

[Spurtacus]

:rolleyes

Ya fuckin' fruitcake, you.

Don't be a sore loser.

[midnightpulp]

Who cares?

If anyone should care, I'd expect it to be you, DD. Once you get your use out of Bryant as a Lakerfan and he's no longer an asset to the organization, I'm sure you'd be in favor of reopening the case and proving his guilt in order to put an obviously psychotic African American male (which Bryant is) behind bars where he belongs. Just think of the timebomb Kobe will turn into when he can't use basketball to channel his aggression?

I mean, how do dangerous do the figurative "Leroy and Jamal" become when they've lost sports or hip-hop as an outlet for their impulses?

[Trill Clinton]

Kobe didn't rape that girl.

[ChrisRichards]

Wow, so Culby, he did admit it was not consensual? Isn't a confession + DNA normally a slam dunk case for the DA?


How was Shaq and Kobe's relationship at that time? Phil Jackson?

[ChrisRichards]

Kobe didn't rape that girl.
I think he didn't do it but thats a baseless claim from my part. All I know is Kobe Bryant was rich, young, popular and goodlooking. I can't see him doing this. But then again, the heir of Max Factor was also rich, popular in his circle but he raped.

[midnightpulp]

Kobe didn't rape that girl.

Course he did. Black men rape. These are things we know.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Course he did. Black men rape. These are things we know.

Why do black men cry during sex?


Pepper spray.

[Spurtacus]

Crack whore :lol

http://wendyista.blogspot.com/2011/08/kobe-byrant-accuser-suffers-drug.html

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

If anyone should care, I'd expect it to be you, DD. Once you get your use out of Bryant as a Lakerfan and he's no longer an asset to the organization, I'm sure you'd be in favor of reopening the case and proving his guilt in order to put an obviously psychotic African American male (which Bryant is) behind bars where he belongs. Just think of the timebomb Kobe will turn into when he can't use basketball to channel his aggression?

I mean, how do dangerous do the figurative "Leroy and Jamal" become when they've lost sports or hip-hop as an outlet for their impulses?

The man makes a good point here, not gonna lie.

[midnightpulp]

Why do black men cry during sex?


Pepper spray.

:lol

[Trill Clinton]

Course he did. Black men rape. These are things we know.

why rape when white women lust for the nigga dick?



I think he didn't do it but thats a baseless claim from my part. All I know is Kobe Bryant was rich, young, popular and goodlooking. I can't see him doing this. But then again, the heir of Max Factor was also rich, popular in his circle but he raped.

I can't see him doing it unless he was under the influence of some type of drug.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Kobe is not a druggie. Sure, he rapes, but let's not get slanderous here now.

[Trill Clinton]

Kobe is not a druggie. Sure, he rapes, but let's not get slanderous here now.

She slipped him a molly.

[midnightpulp]

The man makes a good point here, not gonna lie.

Yep. Good example is Kirby Puckett. Once he retired and no longer had baseball to redirect his baser instincts, he went on a rampage that resulted in former girlfriends filing protection orders against him and saw him groping random women in public restrooms.

[Bynumite]

:deadhorse

[midnightpulp]

why rape when white women lust for the nigga dick?






Only the fat ones do. They need Crovarius's 9 incher to get through the 5 inches of beef curtains and into their G spot.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

She slipped him a molly.

I doubt a white trash chick has access to pure mdma

[Venti Quattro]

Jordan Hill and Kobe Bryant did stupid things but I feel like they are both victims of their own popularity.

and fwiw I am going to beat the shit of someone who destroys my iPhone. Even if it's a woman.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Only the fat ones do.

Yup, they call this "a jig and a pig" where I come from.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Yep. Good example is Kirby Puckett. Once he retired and no longer had baseball to redirect his baser instincts, he went on a rampage that resulted in former girlfriends filing protection orders against him and saw him groping random women in public restrooms.

That ninja was practically blind from Glaucoma, so I bet he just kept going into the wrong bathroom accidentally

[Trill Clinton]

Only the fat ones do. They need Crovarius's 9 incher to get through the 5 inches of beef curtains and into their G spot.

lol okay. *pats you on the head*

[midnightpulp]

That ninja was practically blind from Glaucoma, so I bet he just kept going into the wrong bathroom accidentally

lol Kirby Puckett.

But that nigga could play. Boy, could he play.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

lol Kirby Puckett.

But that nigga could play. Boy, could he play.

Three best players (not including pitchers) I saw growing up were Puckett, Gwynn, and Bonds. Amazing talents.

[Giuseppe]

Wow, so Culby, he did admit it was not consensual? Isn't a confession + DNA normally a slam dunk case for the DA?


How was Shaq and Kobe's relationship at that time? Phil Jackson?

But, he didn't confess until AFTER he cut the check and she signed the agreement.

[Bynumite]

If anyone should care, I'd expect it to be you, DD. Once you get your use out of Bryant as a Lakerfan and he's no longer an asset to the organization, I'm sure you'd be in favor of reopening the case and proving his guilt in order to put an obviously psychotic African American male (which Bryant is) behind bars where he belongs. Just think of the timebomb Kobe will turn into when he can't use basketball to channel his aggression?

I mean, how do dangerous do the figurative "Leroy and Jamal" become when they've lost sports or hip-hop as an outlet for their impulses?

I get your point spurfan. Just like spurfan eagerly waits for Jim to finally come out of the closet once his nba days are over.

Spurfan wants Jim's career to last forever but deep down they know he's playing with a huge burden on his shoulders.

Once he assumes his true sexuality, Timmy will finally exhibit his tramp stamp and tongue ring with pride for everyone to see and assume a pivotal role as a spokesperson for the gay community.

[ChrisRichards]

Jordan Hill and Kobe Bryant did stupid things but I feel like they are both victims of their own popularity.

and fwiw I am going to beat the shit of someone who destroys my iPhone. Even if it's a woman.
This is horrible man. Would you advocate the same thing if it was your sister, daughter or mother?

[Venti Quattro]

This is horrible man. Would you advocate the same thing if it was your sister, daughter or mother?

Not my family. I love my family. Any other person would do.

[ChrisRichards]

But, he didn't confess until AFTER he cut the check and she signed the agreement.

Damn. How much was the rumored settlement?


Is is true Kobe groped Moesha when Kobe took her to his prom night?

[ChrisRichards]

Not my family. I love my family. Any other person would do.
Fair enough :lol

[Giuseppe]

Damn. How much was the rumored settlement?

No idea, but, I'm guessing $4 million.

[Technique]

Bad rookie.

[TheSkeptic]

But, he didn't confess until AFTER he cut the check and she signed the agreement.

Well that's interesting. Do you have a link to this one? I can't seem to find any decent sources...


I get your point spurfan. Just like spurfan eagerly waits for Jim to finally come out of the closet once his nba days are over.

Spurfan wants Jim's career to last forever but deep down they know he's playing with a huge burden on his shoulders.

Once he assumes his true sexuality, Timmy will finally exhibit his tramp stamp and tongue ring with pride for everyone to see and assume a pivotal role as a spokesperson for the gay community.

Duncan's married with kids.

[Giuseppe]

Well that's interesting. Do you have a link to this one? I can't seem to find any decent sources

Well, is it not obvious? The statement is a confession to rape, is it not? Read it. He wouldn't a made that statement unless he was assured there'd be no further criminal prosecution.

[Spursfan092120]

Even if he didn't rape...adultery is illegal in the state of Colorado, so he still broke the law, tbqh.

[Spursfan092120]

Jordan Hill and Kobe Bryant did stupid things but I feel like they are both victims of their own popularity.

and fwiw I am going to beat the shit of someone who destroys my iPhone. Even if it's a woman.

Then you would be in prison...well deserved. Beat the shit out of a woman? Yeah...prison...definitely well deserved.

[TheSkeptic]

Well, is it not obvious? The statement is a confession to rape, is it not? Read it. He wouldn't a made that statement unless he was assured there'd be no further criminal prosecution.

Ok. I think I might have the wrong statement because this was the only thing I found that sounded remotely like an admission of guilt:

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did...I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."

Not saying Kobe didn't do it, but I don't think that's a confession...

Adultery on the other hand he's definitely guilty of imo.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Then you would be in prison...well deserved. Beat the shit out of a woman? Yeah...prison...definitely well deserved.

Don't be so judgmental.

[Giuseppe]

Ok. I think I might have the wrong statement because this was the only thing I found that sounded remotely like an admission of guilt:

"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did...I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."

Not saying Kobe didn't do it, but I don't think that's a confession...

Adultery on the other hand he's definitely guilty of imo.

That's the one I was referring to. Sounds like a confession to me. I'm sure not in legalese though.

[Venti Quattro]

Then you would be in prison...well deserved. Beat the shit out of a woman? Yeah...prison...definitely well deserved.

They were stupid enough to destroy something that you have worked hard for. They should bear the consequences of the incoming fist that's going to head their way. Don't be so hypocritical. Deep down in your system, you have this animalistic gene.

[TheSkeptic]

That's the one I was referring to. Sounds like a confession to me. I'm sure not in legalese though.

Hm...Just curious, but what about that reads as a confession to you?

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Hm...Just curious, but what about that reads as a confession to you?


"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did...I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."

That sounds like a very circuitous confession to me.

[Giuseppe]

Hm...Just curious, but what about that reads as a confession to you?

[[[I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.]]]

[BlackSwordsMan]

[[[I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.]]]

Fuck that whore she knew what she was doing when she went to his room. Same shit with Tyson bitch was like I went to his room at 2 AM to pray with him and he raped me.

[TheSkeptic]

That sounds like a very circuitous confession to me.


[[[I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.]]]

...I guess I can kind of see it.

To me it still reads more like an apology than a confession. He's acknowledging her feelings in this statement with phrases like "I now understand", "I recognize", but he's not adopting her position "I truly believe that this encounter between us was consensual". Idk. Maybe this was a concession he had to make for the settlement?

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

...I guess I can kind of see it.

To me it still reads more like an apology than a confession. He's acknowledging her feelings in this statement with phrases like "I now understand", "I recognize", but he's not adopting her position "I truly believe that this encounter between us was consensual". Idk. Maybe this was a concession he had to make for the settlement?

You don't acknowledge feelings by quasi-confessing to rape (unless you actually did it). He could've just said, "I'm sorry this whole incident happened" or some other vague shit.

[Giuseppe]

...I guess I can kind of see it.

To me it still reads more like an apology than a confession. He's acknowledging her feelings in this statement with phrases like "I now understand", "I recognize", but he's not adopting her position "I truly believe that this encounter between us was consensual". Idk. Maybe this was a concession he had to make for the settlement?

& that (apology) made it permissable for her to take the check.

[TheSkeptic]

You don't acknowledge feelings by quasi-confessing to rape (unless you actually did it). He could've just said, "I'm sorry this whole incident happened" or some other vague shit.

Sure he can. Something takes place in the bedroom, she believes that one thing happened (assuming she's telling the truth) and he believes another (assuming he's telling the truth). He can recognize her feelings without agreeing with her that it was rape. The statement itself is fairly vague if you take the language into account.

I guess what bothers me is that I keep detecting more than one legal mind at work here which is why I'm wondering what the conditions of the settlement were.

Don't get me wrong, just looking at the facts I've seen superficially he's probably guilty of breaking the law. I'm just not convinced that this statement is a confession in the legal sense (or really at all). Inferring Kobe's guilt based on what's written here would be a fair take though imo.



& that (apology) made it permissable for her to take the check.

It's a possibility. Court proceedings are expensive and Kobe doesn't want to go through a criminal case. Maybe the prosecution isn't so confident (victim's story doesn't add up, they don't have any evidence,etc). So both parties agree to settle because neither of them is guaranteed of a victory.

Definitely looks like Kobe was guilty of either adultery or rape (which I guess would be both), but I just don't think this was a legal confession.

[Bynumite]

I get your point spurfan. Just like spurfan eagerly waits for Jim to finally come out of the closet once his nba days are over.

Spurfan wants Jim's career to last forever but deep down they know he's playing with a huge burden on his shoulders.

Once he assumes his true sexuality, Timmy will finally exhibit his tramp stamp and tongue ring with pride for everyone to see and assume a pivotal role as a spokesperson for the gay community.

The Goods

[StrengthAndHonor]

Whatever happened to this OP?

[Bynumite]

I get your point spurfan. Just like spurfan eagerly waits for Jim to finally come out of the closet once his nba days are over.

Spurfan wants Jim's career to last forever but deep down they know he's playing with a huge burden on his shoulders.

Once he assumes his true sexuality, Timmy will finally exhibit his tramp stamp and tongue ring with pride for everyone to see and assume a pivotal role as a spokesperson for the gay community.


Duncan's married with kids.

:lmao

[Chief Brody]

Bynumite deserves a spur for this tbh:lol