The "1%"

[Poptech]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_tim_duncan.jpg
Tim Duncan - $21,300,000 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_emanuel_ginobili.jpg
Manu Ginobili - $12,981,038 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_tony_parker.jpg
Tony Parker - $12,500,000 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_stephen_jackson.jpg
Stephen Jackson - $9,260,000 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_tiago_splitter.jpg
Tiago Splitter - $3,672,000 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

They "obviously" did not earn their money and thus do not deserve to keep it. They are stealing money from the poor janitor who cleans the arena. How is this fair?

[George Gervin's Afro]

great thread

:rolleyes

[Poptech]

great thread

:rolleyes
What? Do you support the 1%!!!

[clambake]

obviously. we bailed them out.

[DMX7]

What? Do you support the 1%!!!

You obviously support straw men. :rolleyes

[spursncowboys]

I think you missed when the 99%'ers allowed exceptions for entertainers. How can they expect rappers, actors and sports figures to be apart of the greedy bankers and CEO's?

[spursncowboys]

logic is strawmen?

[George Gervin's Afro]

I think you missed when the 99%'ers allowed exceptions for entertainers. How can they expect rappers, actors and sports figures to be apart of the greedy bankers and CEO's?

why are you against balancing the budget?


logic would tell you that in order to reduce a deficit you need to cut spending and increase revenue..

[spursncowboys]

When did I say I'm against balancing the budget?

[George Gervin's Afro]

When did I say I'm against balancing the budget?


I think you missed when the 99%'ers allowed exceptions for entertainers. How can they expect rappers, actors and sports figures to be apart of the greedy bankers and CEO's?

I am taking the same liberty you did when you made the stupid comment above.:rolleyes

[Poptech]

why are you against balancing the budget?

logic would tell you that in order to reduce a deficit you need to cut spending and increase revenue..
So you cannot reduce a deficit by cutting spending?

[George Gervin's Afro]

So you cannot reduce a deficit by cutting spending?

if you are serious about reducing a defict in a timely manner you would do both ..either your serious or not.. you obviously are not and those who are willing to do both are serious about the deficit.

[Poptech]

obviously. we bailed them out.
http://www.blogcdn.com/green.autoblog.com/media/2009/03/elon-musk-580.jpg
Elon Musk - $24,132,808 (http://people.forbes.com/profile/elon-musk/145384)
Tesla Motors gets a $465 million taxpayer loan. Why? (http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/09/15/tesla-motors-gets-a-465-million-taxpayer-loan-why/) (Daily Finance, September 15, 2009)

[Poptech]

if you are serious about reducing a defict in a timely manner you would do both ..either your serious or not.. you obviously are not and those who are willing to do both are serious about the deficit.
Who says I am not serious? Why can you not reduce spending as fast as you increased it?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Who says I am not serious? Why can you not reduce spending as fast as you increased it?

Because you can reduce it faster when you increase revenue... do you want to balance the budget as quickly as possible? I am not trying to be a smart ass rather I am asking you in a serious meaningful manner.

[boutons_deux]

So you cannot reduce a deficit by cutting spending?

typical VRWC talking point.

US has revenue problem (tax cuts for the wealthy, UCA) that is worsened by $Ts wasted in Repug wars, Repug Medicare Advantage (privatization failed), Repug mismanagement of the economy.

[Poptech]

Because you can reduce it faster when you increase revenue... do you want to balance the budget as quickly as possible? I am not trying to be a smart ass rather I am asking you in a serious meaningful manner.
Why can you not cut spending faster than you raised it?

I want to reduce the size of government in general, that includes the deficit.

[Poptech]

typical VRWC talking point.

US has revenue problem (tax cuts for the wealthy, UCA) that is worsened by $Ts wasted in Repug wars, Repug Medicare Advantage (privatization failed), Repug mismanagement of the economy.
If the U.S. Federal Government has a revenue problem why would the U.S. Federal Government increase spending?

[Spurminator]

Great points all around! Good discussion.

[boutons_deux]

"U.S. Federal Government increase spending"

counter-cyclical Keynesian stimulus to counter the instabilities of capitalist economy.

[Poptech]

"U.S. Federal Government increase spending"

counter-cyclical Keynesian stimulus to counter the instabilities of capitalist economy.
That is an economic fallacy. Stimulus spending is just an inefficient redistribution of wealth. Government interventions in the economy created the instabilities.

[clambake]

title used to be "do you support the 1%"

what happened?

[MannyIsGod]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_tim_duncan.jpg
Tim Duncan - $21,300,000 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_emanuel_ginobili.jpg
Manu Ginobili - $12,981,038 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_tony_parker.jpg
Tony Parker - $12,500,000 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_stephen_jackson.jpg
Stephen Jackson - $9,260,000 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_tiago_splitter.jpg
Tiago Splitter - $3,672,000 (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm)

They "obviously" did not earn their money and thus do not deserve to keep it. They are stealing money from the poor janitor who cleans the arena. How is this fair?

:lol Logical Falicies.

[Poptech]

title used to be "do you support the 1%"

what happened?
What are you talking about?

[clambake]

What are you talking about?

nevermind. it was a post.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I think athletes and entertainers in general are overpaid. So what?

[ElNono]

Did those guys use tax loopholes and don't pay what they're supposed to pay?

[Spurminator]

I know when I think about people manipulating the Great Big Casino that controls our entire economy on the backs of 100 million 401K's and home mortgages, and then gaming the system so they can avoid tax responsibilities, Tim Duncan is the first person that comes to mind.

[ElNono]

I know when I think about people manipulating the Great Big Casino that controls our entire economy on the backs of 100 million 401K's and home mortgages, and then gaming the system so they can avoid tax responsibilities, Tim Duncan is the first person that comes to mind.

I bet tim's bank manager got bailed out...

[ElNono]

And can you imagine if they worked in an actual free market without salary caps, etc?

There probably wouldn't even be a San Antonio Spurs.

[MannyIsGod]

And can you imagine if they worked in an actual free market without salary caps, etc?

There probably wouldn't even be a San Antonio Spurs.

Argumentum Ad Straw!

/Poptech

[scott]

Solid thread. I really miss this forum.

[Nbadan]

Let's hope his threads get better...