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Venti Quattro
05-04-2012, 10:08 AM
Knicks must lure Phil Jackson with trail of cash (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--knicks-need-to-chase-phil-jackson-with-a-trail-of-cash.html)

NEW YORK – As New York Knicks owner James Dolan watched courtside, here’s how he had to always imagine LeBron James introducing himself to playoff basketball at Madison Square Garden: Game on the line, and the greatness rising in the final minutes, spectacular shots and fantastic finishes. Oh, how the Knicks had come to believe it would be for them. For all the arrogance that they could dazzle James into signing as a free agent two years ago, it turned out they never had a chance.

James had a willingness to take less than the maximum contract, in less than a marquee market, for the easiest path to multiple championships. James never considered the Knicks, and left them destined to construct a contender around Carmelo Anthony. For Dolan and James, the race is clear. Do the Knicks win a playoff game before James wins his championship?

The end of this inevitable Eastern Conference playoff sweep on Sunday promises the beginning of a most inevitable pursuit: Dolan chasing his next savior, Phil Jackson. Along the way, Dolan ought to forget selling Jackson on his New York Knicks nostalgia and sentiment, on the joys of coaching Anthony. Jackson knows his own history here, and knows he never would’ve won a solitary title with the Lakers and Bulls had ‘Melo been one of his cornerstones.

Dolan doesn’t need to come with the elaborate recruiting presentation that he did for James for a simple reason: Above everything else, this is a cash deal. No salary cap, no limits.

In so many ways, this simplifies everything for Dolan. Madison Square Garden management gets to play to the boss’ strength, perhaps his greatest gift as a sport owner: overspending. Jackson has 13 championship rings – 11 as a coach and two as a Knicks player – and Dolan could need to pay him $1 million a year for every one of those titles. The Knicks aren’t chasing a coach, but a max-salary star with no max-salary restrictions.

Three years, $40 million-plus ought to do it.

Money is never an object at the Garden, where the profits come hand over fist regardless of the fact the Knicks set an NBA record on Thursday night with a 13th consecutive playoff loss. It doesn’t matter that they’ve gone 11 years without a postseason victory. The Knicks are an ATM machine, and, now, they have to maximize the assets that they do have moving into the future. They have to get Jeremy Lin and Tyson Chandler, ‘Melo and Amar’e Stoudemire, to play ball together.

Mike Woodson is a solid NBA coach, but he doesn’t have the clout to make this work the way that Jackson can. No one else could command the room the way Jackson can command it. Anthony has too much leverage in the franchise, too much power, and he’s done nothing to deserve it. The Knicks don’t need Jackson for the sake of his résumé, his stature, but for his ability to get talent – especially talent at odds like ‘Melo and Amar’e – to play together.

This roster isn’t changing, because the three years and $65 million left on Stoudemire’s contract all but assures that. Stoudemire made a horrific mistake smacking that fire-extinguisher glass in Miami, but it doesn’t change who he’s been at the core as a Knick – and that’s a player willing to sacrifice, willing to do what’s necessary. Lin will be the Knicks' point guard, and the Knicks need not only a system to make this all work, but a mindset.

Anthony had the run of the Garden, and that only exasperated itself when Stoudemire lost his mind in Miami. It doesn’t matter that 'Melo needed 23 shots for his 22 points in Game 3, because the Knicks were never winning with this lineup. Never. “They’re loading up on him,” Woodson said, “and forcing him to take tough shots.” Anthony could’ve played better, but no one-man team is beating the Heat. No chance.

Jackson isn’t enthralled with the Knicks' roster, a source who talks to him said, but that doesn’t mean he’d completely rule out the job. New York matters to him, and, so does money, the kind of money only the desperation of Dolan could dole out.

Yes, Kentucky’s John Calipari will listen should the Knicks come calling with $8 million or $9 million a year, but New York doesn’t need Cal’s insecurities and frailties taking over the Garden. He’s a great college coach, but commanding the respect of teenagers and decidedly different pros have little in common. There’s no correlation getting big-time talented college kids to play together and keeping ‘Melo from telling you to “Bleep off,” when you challenge him.

There’s one man for the job, one coach worth a max star’s contract when he walks into the room. For once, the Knicks aren’t restricted to the cap. For once, the Knicks can play to James Dolan’s only strength as an owner: a ridiculously rich father who lets his ridiculously fortunate son overspend how he sees fit. Whatever Dolan does, he shouldn’t insult Phil Jackson’s intelligence. This pursuit won’t be about an old Knicks’ nostalgia, nor this roster’s flawed stars. Just a big, cold and dark vault of Cablevision’s cash.

As LeBron James passes through the Garden to remind the Knicks of the failed free-agent pursuit two years ago, a most desperate Jimmy Dolan needs to tell the best coach in the world what he could never tell the best player: Name your price.

Koolaid_Man
05-04-2012, 10:09 AM
No sir...they will get swept by the Heat and not a dam thang Phil can do about it :lol

lefty
05-04-2012, 10:16 AM
lol at NY media thinking Phil would coach the Knicks :lol

Mel_13
05-04-2012, 10:24 AM
lol at NY media thinking Phil would coach the Knicks :lol

It's what they do. They ran stories every summer until Wilt was almost 50 that he would come out of retirement and play with the Knicks. The real news about the Knicks doesn't sell.

Sportcamper
05-04-2012, 10:33 AM
As a coach I don't think Phil can save the Knicks...But as a player I think he can still out perform Amare...

http://losangeleslakersonline.com/images/philjackson.jpg

eric365
05-04-2012, 10:36 AM
Phil alone wouldn't save them.

But a team in New York, with Phil as the coach, with Melo, Amare, Chandler would attract a lot of free agent and they could get better

Kai
05-04-2012, 01:13 PM
tbh D'Antoni could have maybe saved the Knicks if he got his way and traded for Deron Williams. Then again, lol D'Antoni.

lefty
05-04-2012, 01:20 PM
It's what they do. They ran stories every summer until Wilt was almost 50 that he would come out of retirement and play with the Knicks. The real news about the Knicks doesn't sell.

True


As a coach I don't think Phil can save the Knicks...But as a player I think he can still out perform Amare...

http://losangeleslakersonline.com/images/philjackson.jpg
Well he does have 2 hands on that pic

Venti Quattro
06-16-2012, 11:17 AM
Bill Simmons (http://twitter.com/sportsguy33/status/214026989949030400): 1 I'm enjoying Phil Jackson's revisionist "I never wanted the Knicks job" routine. He wanted it. Sent out multiple feelers thru 3rd parties.


Bill Simmons (http://twitter.com/sportsguy33/status/214027490975428610): 2 Dolan never even considered Jackson. Dolan's biggest fear in life = employing someone who is smarter and more popular than him.


Bill Simmons (http://twitter.com/sportsguy33/status/214027877723815937): 3 Jackson always assumed he'd take a year off, then be the "savior" of the Knicks for big bucks as the fitting last act of his career.


Bill Simmons (http://twitter.com/sportsguy33/status/214028059337170944): 4 Dolan wanted no part of Jackson's dream ending for his career. Again - wouldn't even consider it. So Jackson is backtracking. (The end.)

tesseractive
06-16-2012, 05:39 PM
If you're the Knicks, how stupid do you have to be to not even consider Phil Jackson?

OK, I get that Jimmy Dolan sucks... but that's taking it to an even higher level of suckitude. And after the crap the Knicks have been through, that's saying something.

DMC
06-16-2012, 08:03 PM
Save them? They are doing just fine, rich as fuck.

People act like Phil would be the Jordan or early Kobe/Shaq Phil. He's old, broken down, couldn't even motivate the Lakers to win one game in the 2nd round against the Mavs with a much more powerful squad than Dallas had.

SamoanTD
06-16-2012, 09:07 PM
The Knicks need Jesus.

Kidd K
06-16-2012, 11:02 PM
Depends on your definition of "save".

"Maybe get 50 wins"? Sure.

"Compete legitimately for a title"? No.


Phil Jackson is arguably the most overrated coach in history. Lakers fans might try to bite my head off for this, but imo Phil Jackson was a complete failure of a coach for the last 3 seasons at LEAST, including the last season they won a title. He completely relies on the talent of his team to win, and does very little during the games whatsoever.

Before anyone even replies quoting Phil Jackson's excuse for "I do my stuff before the game", so does every other coach in the NBA. They also do stuff during the game, yet Phil doesn't (or barely does). He just sits on the bench, spaces out, and lets his team take it in the ass without strategic timeouts, rotation replacements, or altering play tactics.

With how lazy Jackson was the last 3 years with the Lakers, I don't see how he helps the Knicks win. Especially when the Knicks would be the worst team he's coached in 20+ years. Phil Jackson isn't Popovich or Rivers or Thibs or Riley. He isn't going to make magic happen.

DMC
06-16-2012, 11:19 PM
Phil had the luxury of being MJ's coach during his elite years. That put him in good position to be Shaq's coach in his elite years, and to make demands and get them, as we saw in Pau Gasol's elite years.

Phil can win with a stacked team. NY has a stacked team, but so does Miami and Boston (Boston's is getting up there in age).

As much as the East has stacked, why haven't they won much?

BRHornet45
06-16-2012, 11:43 PM
sons not unless the NBA hands Phil his usual superstar, stacked team. if he comes back it will be for Miami next season when they lose the finals back to back years.

ElNono
06-17-2012, 03:00 AM
Phil is a coach, not a magician, tbh...

Duncan2177
06-17-2012, 03:45 AM
Jackson Had No Interest In Coaching Knicks

http://basketball.realgm.com/

100%duncan
06-17-2012, 09:04 AM
Phil is a coach, not a magician, tbh...

Co sign

Latarian Milton
06-17-2012, 07:01 PM
NY might be the best destination for him since he ain't joining miami tbh, NY got everything but a great coach to make up the true dynasty and PJ can be the coach leading them to massive glories

Wild Cobra Kai
06-17-2012, 10:17 PM
The Knicks are infected by CAA. They are making money hand over fist, so there's no need to win. Think of them as a faster revving version of the old Clippers, who never spent a dime more than the minimum and made boatloads of money by coasting off their NBA TV contract money. The Knicks are doing the same thing with their cable system money. They spend more than Sterling did, but there is no fucking plan. They just pay various guys money and throw them out on the court.

dunkman
06-17-2012, 10:33 PM
Phil would make a deep run with the Knicks for sure, but I sincerely doubt he would reach the finals. But 11 'ships say he's the best ever, so maybe I'm wrong and he can win it all once again.

DMC
06-17-2012, 10:37 PM
Phil would make a deep run with the Knicks for sure, but I sincerely doubt he would reach the finals. But 11 'ships say he's the best ever, so maybe I'm wrong and he can win it all once again.
If 11 ships say he's the best ever, how is Hakeem better than Bill Russell?

lefty
06-17-2012, 10:47 PM
No Jordan
No Pippen
No Shaq


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dunkman
06-17-2012, 10:51 PM
If 11 ships say he's the best ever, how is Hakeem better than Bill Russell?

Russell dominated more Hakeem, the game was played different. Maybe Russell was better. Red Arbauch also innovated the game more than any other coach, his concepts are still valid today.

Only Shaq won a 'ship without Phil, MJ and Kobe weren't even close. Pippen almost won one in 2000, but it was as role player focused on defense.

Some time from now, people will check Duncan's stats and will say he wasn't so great.