Mayweather-Cotto Fight Thread

[DeadlyDynasty]

fuck off, the nba's over tonight. Let's get to the real shit.

[urunobili]

How is the fight going?

[DeadlyDynasty]

bout to start...Michael Buffer just lubed up the crowd.

[MR.SILVER&BLack]

im rooting for Cotto but i know mayweather is most likely going to win.

[urunobili]

Cotto in for a beatup session by Floyd TBH

[DeadlyDynasty]

Mayweather wins 1st, 10-9. He's working the body. Just a different speed than Cotto. Floyd is nasty

[DeadlyDynasty]

lol Cotto trying to pick him up

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cotto mad aggressive in the 2nd round...landed some good ones but missed a shitload more. He's gonna get worn out by the 6th-7th rd at this rate

[DeadlyDynasty]

Floyd owned him in Rd 3

[urunobili]

Cotto should happy he got this fight... It'd be awesome to see another cheap shot by Mayweather to finish this one...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Money is toying with him...Cotto just can't land a shot.

[urunobili]

ESPN gave Cotto the 3rd. On a close fight if nobody knocks the other it'll be given to Cotto just like they gave it to Manny his last fight...

[DeadlyDynasty]

Round 5 to May as well...50-45 overall

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cotto finally won a round!

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cotto's right eye starting to show swelling

[InRareForm]

nigga pbf dominating

[urunobili]

Mayweather with a bloody nose...

[InRareForm]

Now it's a boxing fight. it is getting interesting.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Cotto has to KO him in the 12th

[DeadlyDynasty]

Money May wins, unanimous decision.

[HarlemHeat37]

Just another W for the greatest PFP fighter of this generation, tbh..

[Cry Havoc]

Beautiful fight by Mayweather. All the more reason why the world wants Manny vs Floyd. Floyd dodges orthodox punches so easily because it's obvious for him to predict with his reflexes. Manny throws from every angle. It would be such a brilliant fight to watch.

[Cry Havoc]

Just another W for the greatest PFP fighter of all-time, tbh..

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"You best be trollin'."

[Sean Cagney]

fuck off, the nba's over tonight. Let's get to the real shit.

Real shyt? Boxing has not been real shit in years bro! This is a joke! We want one fight, the others can go to hell and I won't watch at all. Same bullshit.
Just another W for the greatest PFP fighter of this generation, tbh..

I wish he would go in a time machine to the 80's with Duran, Leonard, Hagler and Hearns! I bet he would not have 0 losses........

[DeadlyDynasty]

dude was a maestro in the ring tonight, can't argue that...

[Cry Havoc]

:lmao

"You had best take the test"

Wow, Floyd, you're such a douchebag. Manny agreed long ago to Olympic style testing. STFU.

[IronMexican]

Mayweather was great tonight.

[Sean Cagney]

:lmao

"You had best take the test"

Wow, Floyd, you're such a douchebag. Manny agreed long ago to Olympic style testing. STFU.

He will keep making bullshit excuses, which is why Boxing is DONE TO ME.

[Venti Quattro]

P:lolcqui:lolo

I still root for Pac to beat the shit out of Money.

[HarlemHeat37]

In all honesty, Pacquiao's ugly, doping ass should accept less money and swallow his pride, tbh..he has more to gain than Pretty Boy..

[Juggity]

In all honesty, Pacquiao's ugly, doping ass should accept less money and swallow his pride, tbh..he has more to gain than Pretty Boy..

Mayweather has more to lose by fighting, though

[dbreiden83080]

I wish he would go in a time machine to the 80's with Duran, Leonard, Hagler and Hearns! I bet he would not have 0 losses........

He probably would have ZERO losses because he would not fight any of those legends. I am a fan of Floyd's skill but not his attitude or his ducking of the best..

[Cry Havoc]

In all honesty, Pacquiao's ugly, doping ass should accept less money and swallow his pride, tbh..he has more to gain than Pretty Boy..

They should fight for free and donate all their money to charity. Would be epic and a TREMENDOUS show for the sport of boxing, which is already on the brink of falling apart due to the bullshit that fighters like Mayweather and promoters like Arum have pulled.

Not going to happen, though. Mayweather thinks he's bigger than boxing, and you have to bow down to him to even get a fight. Egos like that are actively destroying the sport, whereas in UFC you have guys who are chomping at the bit to fight each other and don't care about politics.

[ezau]

Gayweather just beating the over-the-hill fighters he's supposed to beat. Nothing to see here.

[Killakobe81]

Mayweather was great tonight.

yep. All that is left is to smack some reality in to the flips and Manny supporters that think he can ACTUALLY beat PBF ...

Floyd did get hit some I think he has maybe 2 fights left (at a high level)

[ezau]

In all honesty, Pacquiao's ugly, doping ass should accept less money and swallow his pride, tbh..he has more to gain than Pretty Boy..

Harlem is mad because the best fighter in the world is from Asia:lol:lol

[dbreiden83080]

He will keep making bullshit excuses, which is why Boxing is DONE TO ME.

Boxing has ruined itself with these insane paydays for guys like Floyd. Why is Floyd going to take a risk in a fight with Manny when he was guaranteed 30 mil plus PPV bonuses for this fight with an out of prime Cotto? No incentive for Floyd to push for the Manny fight.. He wants to get paid and keep that 0 on his record..

[ezau]

P:lolcqui:lolo

I still root for Pac to beat the shit out of Money.

If Pac lands an unorthodox punch from a weird angle, PBF is finished.

[Cry Havoc]

yep. All that is left is to smack some reality in to the flips and Manny supporters that think he can ACTUALLY beat PBF ...

Floyd did get hit some I think he has maybe 2 fights left (at a high level)

:lmao

Yeah, Pacquiao has never dominated top flight opponents before. Mayweather fighting one good fight suddenly means he's better. :lmao That's why he's the unanimous #1 PFP in the world, right? OH WAIT HES NOT. :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

:cry "I'm the best fighter in the world who ducks other people." :cry

[ezau]

yep. All that is left is to smack some reality in to the flips and Manny supporters that think he can ACTUALLY beat PBF ...

Floyd did get hit some I think he has maybe 2 fights left (at a high level)

Floyd would duck Manny as much as possible because he knows that his going to get beat.

[Killakobe81]

:lmao

Yeah, Pacquiao has never dominated top flight opponents before. Mayweather fighting one good fight suddenly means he's better. :lmao That's why he's the unanimous #1 PFP in the world, right? OH WAIT HES NOT. :lmao

Nice to see your boxing knowledge is on par with your b-ball IQ.
PFP means dick, it's just as valuable as the MVP is in the NBA ... Real boxing folks know PBF is better. PBF has the highest defensive connect % since compubox has kept stats. Means he gets hit less than anyone in recent boxing history. He is 42-0. He can take a punch (the few times he does get hit).

Manny is a great fighter. PBF is a 1st ballot HOF BOXER, big difference.

[MaNu4Tres]

Don't get me wrong boxing is real, but the business and money factor make it fixed. Neither Pac or Money will lose til their potential fight. If either of them lost, boxing would lose millions. Boxing knows this, therefore they are just building anticipation/$$ til they fight.

It boggles my mind how some people, prior to the fight, actually believe Pac or Money's opposition will win.

[Sean Cagney]

He probably would have ZERO losses because he would not fight any of those legends. I am a fan of Floyd's skill but not his attitude or his ducking of the best..

OKAY I agree there lol, good post.....

[Cry Havoc]

Manny is a great fighter. PBF is a 1st ballot HOF BOXER, big difference.

Nice to see you've been watching boxing for less than 24 hours. No one on this earth would ever claim that Manny fucking Pacquiao is not a first ballot HOF fighter. Are you fucking serious? Worst boxing take I've ever read in this forum.

But yeah, Floyd is so dominant that's why many boxing publications have Manny ahead of him. Amazing how ducking fighters hurts your rep, isn't it? :lmao

[Cry Havoc]

Mayweather certainly knows how not to get hit by Manny. He makes up excuses not to climb in the ring with him. "Take the tests." :lmao

[TheSkeptic]

Floyd would duck Manny as much as possible because he knows that his going to get beat.

I'm not so sure about that. In the last fight I saw Manny was clearly not as sharp. I wanted this fight to happen a few years ago because after seeing Pac recently there's not a doubt in my mind that PBF would take that match at this stage.

[Killakobe81]

Ring: Manny:1 Floyd:2

Fox Sports: Floyd:1 Manny:2

ESPN: Floyd:1 Manny:2

SI: Floyd:1 Manny:2

Yahoo sports: Floyd: 1 Manny: 2

Except for RING magazine the first 5 sports sites I went to all have PBF as pFP, which I think is bullshit btw, but you decided to use that to prove your flimsy point, Havoc.

[TheSkeptic]

Although I guess Manny has a puncher's chance...but still. Unless something's changed it looks like he's slowed down a bit to me.

[Cry Havoc]

Ring: Manny:1 Floyd:2

Fox Sports: Floyd:1 Manny:2

ESPN: Floyd:1 Manny:2

SI: Floyd:1 Manny:2

Yahoo sports: Floyd: 1 Manny: 2

Except for RING magazine the first 5 sports sites I went to all have PBF as pFP, which I think is bullshit btw, but you decided to use that to prove your flimsy point, Havoc.

:lmao So they're bullshit but you're going to list them anyway? Way to prove that what I said was true, unless you're unfamiliar with the word "unanimous".

[Sean Cagney]

Don't get me wrong boxing is real, but the business and money factor make it fixed. Neither Pac or Money will lose til their potential fight. If either of them lost, boxing would lose millions. Boxing knows this, therefore they are just building anticipation/$$ til they fight.

It boggles my mind how some people, prior to the fight, actually believe Pac or Money's opposition will win.

Yet these idiots still keep buying the fights and keep it going! I know a few too!

[Manny Pacquiao]

Ring: Manny:1 Floyd:2

Fox Sports: Floyd:1 Manny:2

ESPN: Floyd:1 Manny:2

SI: Floyd:1 Manny:2

Yahoo sports: Floyd: 1 Manny: 2

Except for RING magazine the first 5 sports sites I went to all have PBF as pFP, which I think is bullshit btw, but you decided to use that to prove your flimsy point, Havoc.

I'm number 1 faggot.

[dbreiden83080]

Manny is a great fighter. PBF is a 1st ballot HOF BOXER, big difference.

This era of boxing basically sucks.. Marvelous Marvin Hagler Shits on all these clowns..

[Killakobe81]

Nice to see you've been watching boxing for less than 24 hours. No one on this earth would ever claim that Manny fucking Pacquiao is not a first ballot HOF fighter. Are you fucking serious? Worst boxing take I've ever read in this forum.

But yeah, Floyd is so dominant that's why many boxing publications have Manny ahead of him. Amazing how ducking fighters hurts your rep, isn't it? :lmao

I said he was a great fighter. Never said he wasnt a first ballot HOF'er the point I was making is Manny is a great fighter, not a BOXER on PBF's level. I'm over 30 I started watching boxing with Sugar Ray vs. Hearns. I saw Manny back when he was on ESPN and was a skinny aggressive fighter with little boxing skills. He is much better now but he is sTILL not in floyd's class as a boxer.

Learn the sweet science son, stop watching Skip Bayless and buying they false hype. Manny is good, no, great ... like you said a HOF'er but Floyd is one of the all-timers ...

[Cry Havoc]

The site dedicated to boxing thinks Manny is #1. Yep. :lol

[Cry Havoc]

I said he was a great fighter. Never said he wasnt a first ballot HOF'er the point I was making is Manny is a great fighter, not a BOXER on PBF's level. I'm over 30 I started watching boxing with Sugar Ray vs. Hearns. I saw Manny back when he was on ESPN and was a skinny aggressive fighter with little boxing skills. He is much better now but he is sTILL not in floyd's class as a boxer.

And yet Floyd keeps ducking him. :lmao

[Manny Pacquiao]

This era of boxing basically sucks.. Marvelous Marvin Hagler Shits on all these clowns..

I would put that bitch to sleep. :sleep

[MaNu4Tres]

Yet these idiots still keep buying the fights and keep it going! I know a few too!

It's really comical, tbh.

Glad I'm not the only one to realize this.

It's like having a discussion about the WWE, tbh.

Boxing is weak.

[Killakobe81]

The site dedicated to boxing thinks Manny is #1. Yep. :lol

Still an opinion. that is like saying if NBA.com picked Durant over Lebron for MVP, you would choose that ranking instead of looking at WHO did the rankings.

But hey I know you spur fans pick and choose which rankings to follow that is why you claim duncan as POTD because SI says so ... :lol

[dbreiden83080]

I would put that bitch to sleep. :sleep

You could hit Hagler over the head with the ring post and he would smile at you...

[Killakobe81]

And yet Floyd keeps ducking him. :lmao

I could go in to the testing and all the rest. But why does he need to duck a guy who barely beat JMM and many folks actually THINK JMM ... won that fight. I think it was close. I would give Manny the edge, but the scoring was comical.

[HarlemHeat37]

If Pacquiao was Black, there wouldn't even be a discussion, tbh..

The fans see an ugly looking man of Asian descent, which is unusual, compared to the superstar athletes that we have grown to expect, tbh..this had led to a level of relatability that Mayweather could never reach, tbh..

[MaNu4Tres]

If Pacquiao was Black, there wouldn't even be a discussion, tbh..

The fans see an ugly looking man of Asian descent, which is unusual, compared to the superstar athletes that we have grown to expect, tbh..this had led to a level of relatability that Mayweather could never reach, tbh..

tbh, boxing is fixed-- so how really great are Pac and Money if boxing is fixed for monetary reasons? tbh..

[Cry Havoc]

I could go in to the testing and all the rest. But why does he need to duck a guy who barely beat JMM and many folks actually THINK JMM ... won that fight. I think it was close. I would give Manny the edge, but the scoring was comical.

And it took 10 rounds for Mayweather to beat Hatton. Manny knocked him out in 2. We can play THAT game all day, but anyone who really knows boxing knows not to compare opponents because it's futile and pointless.

[Cry Havoc]

Never said he wasnt a first ballot HOF'er


Manny is a great fighter. PBF is a 1st ballot HOF BOXER, big difference.

Ahem.

[crc21209]

Fuck Pacquiao. Mayweather FTW...:tu

[TheNextGen]

Good fight by Floyd. BUT HOW DID MANNY BEAT COTTO AGAIN? Oh yah..TKO a few years ago.

lol unanimous decision

Floyd dont want any piece of manny...thats why he is pricing himself out of the fight once Manny said he'll take the test. HHAHA PUSSY.

[TheNextGen]

I could go in to the testing and all the rest. But why does he need to duck a guy who barely beat JMM and many folks actually THINK JMM ... won that fight. I think it was close. I would give Manny the edge, but the scoring was comical.

do you really want to compare resume's and outcomes??...thats like a Floyd fans worst nightmare. :lmao

[baseline bum]

Don't get me wrong boxing is real, but the business and money factor make it fixed. Neither Pac or Money will lose til their potential fight. If either of them lost, boxing would lose millions. Boxing knows this, therefore they are just building anticipation/$$ til they fight.

It boggles my mind how some people, prior to the fight, actually believe Pac or Money's opposition will win.

Pac's opponent did win the last fight. real talk.

[dbreiden83080]

Good fight by Floyd. BUT HOW DID MANNY BEAT COTTO AGAIN? Oh yah..TKO a few years ago.

lol unanimous decision

Floyd dont want any piece of manny...thats why he is pricing himself out of the fight once Manny said he'll take the test. HHAHA PUSSY.

Manny is great but lets be real here, he fought JMM 3 times and you could make the case he lost all 3 times.. Judges follow the money in boxing and seeing to it Manny kept winning was a priority. Now Floyd destroyed JMM easily. Styles make fights but i always thought Floyds defensive style would be trouble for Manny. However i don't think either of them are in their primes anymore. This fight has passed us bye. Boxing blows it with the fans yet again..

[Koolaid_Man]

What a fucking night I had partying...awesome fight and mad props to Cotto and major props to my man money May...My faith in the American justice system was restored last night when I say Justin Bieber in Mayweather's entourage...It was really good to see...although it was clear that Bieber was scared shitless being around that kind of rough and aggressiveness of Mayweathers real posse...I thought it was hilarious...and it made me smile for a minute.

Maybe Justin Bieber being in Mayweather's corner will jolt the collective conscience's of white America to stop abandoning their own just because he's black. All those fighters from other countries proudly hold their flags and cheer for their fighter..Ohhh but not white America...and the reason is because white America from the beginning of time has always looked for a great white hope to the black man and so they must have felt so conflicted seeing Justin Bieber in the ring with Mayweather. - lol

and yes Mayweather's brashness is not but a reflection of America itself...a country who's always bragging about being the best at everything in the world grom charitable giving to the military. A country where capitalism reigns supreme and socialism is only accepted when the money is given to countries after we've started a war with them.

If you don't like Mayweather's attitude then you must hate what America really is at it's core...otherwise you're just racist - lol

[djohn2oo8]

What a fucking night I had partying...awesome fight and mad props to Cotto and major props to my man money May...My faith in the American justice system was restored last night when I say Justin Bieber in Mayweather's entourage...It was really good to see...although it was clear that Bieber was scared shitless being around that kind of rough and aggressiveness of Mayweathers real posse...I thought it was hilarious...and it made me smile for a minute.

Maybe Justin Bieber being in Mayweather's corner will jolt the collective conscience's of white America to stop abandoning their own just because he's black. All those fighters from other countries proudly hold their flags and cheer for their fighter..Ohhh but not white America...and the reason is because white America from the beginning of time has always looked for a great white hope to the black man and so they must have felt so conflicted seeing Justin Bieber in the ring with Mayweather. - lol

and yes Mayweather's brashness is not but a reflection of America itself...a country who's always bragging about being the best at everything in the world grom charitable giving to the military. A country where capitalism reigns supreme and socialism is only accepted when the money is given to countries after we've started a war with them.

If you don't like Mayweather's attitude then you must hate what America really is at it's core...otherwise you're just racist - lol
What a thread-worthy post.

[Trill Clinton]

It's really comical, tbh.

Glad I'm not the only one to realize this.

It's like having a discussion about the WWE, tbh.

Boxing is weak.

Just waking up from a wild fight party. You and sean cagney look like some broke mofos right now with that lame excuse for not watching the fight.

We used to order tysons ppv knowing damn well the fight wasnt going past the 1st. Stop justifying being broke by clowning the state of boxing. Fighters like floyd are rare so might as well appreciate him while he's still able to kick ass.

[UZER]

What a fucking night I had partying...awesome fight and mad props to Cotto and major props to my man money May...My faith in the American justice system was restored last night when I say Justin Bieber in Mayweather's entourage...It was really good to see...although it was clear that Bieber was scared shitless being around that kind of rough and aggressiveness of Mayweathers real posse...I thought it was hilarious...and it made me smile for a minute.

Maybe Justin Bieber being in Mayweather's corner will jolt the collective conscience's of white America to stop abandoning their own just because he's black. All those fighters from other countries proudly hold their flags and cheer for their fighter..Ohhh but not white America...and the reason is because white America from the beginning of time has always looked for a great white hope to the black man and so they must have felt so conflicted seeing Justin Bieber in the ring with Mayweather. - lol

and yes Mayweather's brashness is not but a reflection of America itself...a country who's always bragging about being the best at everything in the world grom charitable giving to the military. A country where capitalism reigns supreme and socialism is only accepted when the money is given to countries after we've started a war with them.

If you don't like Mayweather's attitude then you must hate what America really is at it's core...otherwise you're just racist - lol


Race card this....race card that....blah blah blah

Jamele??? is that you??

[Koolaid_Man]

Race card this....race card that....blah blah blah

Jamele??? is that you??

the white man played the race card first...now you want a do over...yah right...go back and learn the history of boxing...I may not like all of Floyd's antics but yes I will certainly have ZERO problem admitting that I'm rooting for him ONLY because he's black....

and ironically it's the same reason you're rooting against him...you may not know that's the reason but trust me it is :lol...I'm just more in tune with reality and I know keenly the history of the great white hope it's why White America hates Floyd...and you can't prove other wise...if Manny was asking Floyd to take an Olympic style drug test and Floyd refused..man you guys would be all up in Floyd's ass calling him a cheater...:lol

I just find it so hilarious that when a black man accuses a white man or Asian that white people adore and love of cheating and demand blood testing then the black man is branded a coward :lmao:lmao:lmao

talk about moving the goal posts :lmao:lmao:lmao

[mavs>spurs]

nobody roots against floyd because he's black, some ppl dont like him because he's an asshole though. talented but an asshole.

[Koolaid_Man]

nobody roots against floyd because he's black, some ppl dont like him because he's an asshole though. talented but an asshole.

false proverbial wisdom....how can you hate a nigga cuz he got swag when that's all this country is about...Floyd puts on a show he's not 100% what you see on TV...he doesn't have the NBA or NFL promoting him so he promotes himself...and he's brilliant...he knows that hatred sells...the more you hate him and want to see him lose by getting knocked out the more you will pay to watch...

you may not be enamored with it and it may not be a typical Wall street strategy of investing but it works for Floyd to the tune of hundreds of millions :toast

[pass1st]

Brawlers can't beat Mayweather, tbh. Need another boxer like Zab Judah, but smarter.

[Koolaid_Man]

Brawlers can't beat Mayweather, tbh. Need another boxer like Zab Judah, but smarter.

If they knew how to seal the deal they could

[mavs>spurs]

false proverbial wisdom....how can you hate a nigga cuz he got swag when that's all this country is about...Floyd puts on a show he's not 100% what you see on TV...he doesn't have the NBA or NFL promoting him so he promotes himself...and he's brilliant...he knows that hatred sells...the more you hate him and want to see him lose by getting knocked out the more you will pay to watch...

you may not be enamored with it and it may not be a typical Wall street strategy of investing but it works for Floyd to the tune of hundreds of millions :toast

mayweather doesn't seem smart enough for it to be an act

[Koolaid_Man]

mayweather doesn't seem smart enough for it to be an act

:lol ohh yeah....that's what the white man would have you think...you haven't been exposed to much Tyse...

FACT: Mayweather promotes and pays himself just like he did last night...:lol talk about not being smart enough...Tyson one day you will grow up to the realities of the real world...and not the perceptions and stereotypes that white America has peddled for years..

I digress when I say...and I know it sounds racist but it's not..it's 100% rooted in fact and I wish I didn't have to say what I'm about to say...but part of the reason we were attacked on 911 is because the white man has spent the past 100 yrs demonizing blacks while in they were in bed with the Arabs behind their oil...They demonized and tried to make everyone afraid of the black man and it was the Arabs that turned around and bite the squarely in their ass on 911...they fell in love with the wrong man :toast

[UZER]

:lol ohh yeah....that's what the white man would have you think...you haven't been exposed to much Tyse...

FACT: Mayweather promotes and pays himself just like he did last night...:lol talk about not being smart enough...Tyson one day you will grow up to the realities of the real world...and not the perceptions and stereotypes that white America has peddled for years..

I digress when I say...and I know it sounds racist but it's not..it's 100% rooted in fact and I wish I didn't have to say what I'm about to say...but part of the reason we were attacked on 911 is because the white man has spent the past 100 yrs demonizing blacks while in they were in bed with the Arabs behind their oil...They demonized and tried to make everyone afraid of the black man and it was the Arabs that turned around and bite the squarely in their ass on 911...they fell in love with the wrong man :toast

Haha dude you try to talk like your a professor of history. Then the next minute your telling us how street n*gga you are....then you tell us you traveled the world with your daddy and eat at 5 star restaurants.

You kept saying we're brainwashed and don't even know it. Then you proceed to spit the same lines over and over from the opposite prospective. So if we're brainwashed then so are you.

edit: perspective*

[MaNu4Tres]

Just waking up from a wild fight party. You and sean cagney look like some broke mofos right now with that lame excuse for not watching the fight.

We used to order tysons ppv knowing damn well the fight wasnt going past the 1st. Stop justifying being broke by clowning the state of boxing. Fighters like floyd are rare so might as well appreciate him while he's still able to kick ass.

Who said I didn't watch the fight?

All I said was boxing is fixed, which it is. If you can't see how or why I believe that, then you're just ignorant and stupid, tbh.

And Fwiw, I did buy the fight for friends who came over last night.

Keep it trill.

[ButtHurt Committee]

mayweather doesn't seem smart enough for it to be an act

They thought he wasn't smart enough to ditch Bob Arums Jew ass.

[Koolaid_Man]

They thought he wasn't smart enough to ditch Bob Arums Jew ass.

^ this :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

They thought he wasn't smart enough to ditch Bob Arums Jew ass.

Floyd not fighting Pacman now is really a battle of wills between he and Arum....Manny isn't even close to Floyd's money making abilities

[Koolaid_Man]

Haha dude you try to talk like your a professor of history. Then the next minute your telling us how street n*gga you are....then you tell us you traveled the world with your daddy and eat at 5 star restaurants.

You kept saying we're brainwashed and don't even know it. Then you proceed to spit the same lines over and over from the opposite prospective. So if we're brainwashed then so are you.

edit: perspective*

I never claimed to be a street thug but I will straight stomp you out...being a nigga has nothing to be with being from the streets :lol and yes I'm well versed and traveled...now what are you :lol

[UZER]

Personally I was really impressed with Mayweather last night. He showed me something I hadn't seen before and that's responding after getting hit with a steady flow of shots. Not just a shot here or there.

I'm one of mayweather's biggest haters, but dude came to fight last night. I respect his game. You don't get to 43-0 by accident.

And there is some truth to what he is saying about Arum being in the way.

[UZER]

I never claimed to be a street thug but I will straight stomp you out...being a nigga has nothing to be with being from the streets :lol and yes I'm well versed and traveled...now what are you :lol

Oh ok. You will also beg to keep from being pinked on this board. Real stomping out homie.

[pass1st]

If they knew how to seal the deal they could

It's not about knowing how to "seal the deal", it's just about out-playing him in terms of defense and counter-punching.

[Koolaid_Man]

It's not about knowing how to "seal the deal", it's just about out-playing him in terms of defense and counter-punching.

:lol in other words seal the deal...:lol

Now if I was mean I could say you sound like George Bush by disagreeing with what you agree with

but since what you said doesn't make sense I won't be mean...

But being the boxing enthusiast that I am...I do have a question for you...1.) how does one out play someone in terms of boxing...either you're a great defensive boxer or you're not...you can't "out-play" someone in the ring...and even more so if that person pound for pound is the best at defensive boxing...so you fail on that account...2.) and you fail on the simple counter-punching argument...elaborate on counter punches technique if you will...you sound like you heard some sound bites from HBO commentators and now you're learning the lingo...The Counter punch argument in and of itself is so cliche...

Listen here is why Mayweather is the best...He takes away your counter punching strength by fading away and it's the very same reason he frustrates opponents and it's the same reason I beleive he will actually catch Pacman and knock him out...

Let Kool educate you...Floyd never exchanges for more than 4-5 blows at a time in the base case. His hand speed will get him punches against you at a 3-1 clip. If he's exchanging with you for 4-5 or more punches even if he has the advantage he will back off...to avoid getting caught with a wild punch. So there is no real counter punching going on..on the inside exchange. There is counter blocking and counter moving but if you're a smart boxer...counter punching doesn't really work to your advantage with a boxer that's faster than you and that's doesn't really miss to often on his punches. It's either Floyd hitting you and backing off or you hitting Floyd and then chasing...the problem is if you chase you give Floyd the edge in catching you with his right as he's fading away. It's the very reason I beleive he will knock Pacman out if they do fight.

Pacman is just as fast on the exchange plus he throws Combo's from all angles the problem is two-fold for Pacman..He can't bully Mayweather around the ring like Cotto did trying to force the issue and he also has to deal with Mayweathers speed. Pacman will chase after landing a flurry on Mayweather and his downfall will be getting baited by Floyd to chase..and he'll likely fall with a right from Floyd as Floyd is leaning back.

[ButtHurt Committee]

Personally I was really impressed with Mayweather last night. He showed me something I hadn't seen before and that's responding after getting hit with a steady flow of shots. Not just a shot here or there.

I'm one of mayweather's biggest haters, but dude came to fight last night. I respect his game. You don't get to 43-0 by accident.

And there is some truth to what he is saying about Arum being in the way.


YouTube mayweather vs corley. Mayweather vs Burton. Those were his best brawl from start to finish.

[Trill Clinton]

Who said I didn't watch the fight?

All I said was boxing is fixed, which it is. If you can't see how or why I believe that, then you're just ignorant and stupid, tbh.

And Fwiw, I did buy the fight for friends who came over last night.

Keep it trill.

I'll take ignorant for a hunnid, Alex. Wasn't anything fixed about floyd whooping cotto's ass last night.

props on buying the fight, though.

Stay Trill.

[pass1st]

:lol in other words seal the deal...:lol

Now if I was mean I could say you sound like George Bush by disagreeing with what you agree with

but since what you said doesn't make sense I won't be mean...

But being the boxing enthusiast that I am...I do have a question for you...1.) how does one out play someone in terms of boxing...either you're a great defensive boxer or you're not...you can't "out-play" someone in the ring...and even more so if that person pound for pound is the best at defensive boxing...so you fail on that account...2.) and you fail on the simple counter-punching argument...elaborate on counter punches technique if you will...you sound like you heard some sound bites from HBO commentators and now you're learning the lingo...The Counter punch argument in and of itself is so cliche...

Listen here is why Mayweather is the best...He takes away your counter punching strength by fading away and it's the very same reason he frustrates opponents and it's the same reason I beleive he will actually catch Pacman and knock him out...

Let Kool educate you...Floyd never exchanges for more than 4-5 blows at a time in the base case. His hand speed will get him punches against you at a 3-1 clip. If he's exchanging with you for 4-5 or more punches even if he has the advantage he will back off...to avoid getting caught with a wild punch. So there is no real counter punching going on..on the inside exchange. There is counter blocking and counter moving but if you're a smart boxer...counter punching doesn't really work to your advantage with a boxer that's faster than you and that's doesn't really miss to often on his punches. It's either Floyd hitting you and backing off or you hitting Floyd and then chasing...the problem is if you chase you give Floyd the edge in catching you with his right as he's fading away. It's the very reason I beleive he will knock Pacman out if they do fight.

Pacman is just as fast on the exchange plus he throws Combo's from all angles the problem is two-fold for Pacman..He can't bully Mayweather around the ring like Cotto did trying to force the issue and he also has to deal with Mayweathers speed. Pacman will chase after landing a flurry on Mayweather and his downfall will be getting baited by Floyd to chase..and he'll likely fall with a right from Floyd as Floyd is leaning back.

You don't know jack shit about boxing or phrases in the English language like "seal the deal" :lol

[hehateme]

Maybe in a future Rocky movie they will resurrect Sugary Ray Robinson to destroy Ugly Boy Floyd in a 2 round beatdown and then Larry Merchant (albeit probably 130 years old by then) will still be winded and confused trying to interview both of them afterwards.

[pgardn]

:lol ohh yeah....that's what the white man would have you think...you haven't been exposed to much Tyse...

FACT: Mayweather promotes and pays himself just like he did last night...:lol talk about not being smart enough...Tyson one day you will grow up to the realities of the real world...and not the perceptions and stereotypes that white America has peddled for years..

I digress when I say...and I know it sounds racist but it's not..it's 100% rooted in fact and I wish I didn't have to say what I'm about to say...but part of the reason we were attacked on 911 is because the white man has spent the past 100 yrs demonizing blacks while in they were in bed with the Arabs behind their oil...They demonized and tried to make everyone afraid of the black man and it was the Arabs that turned around and bite the squarely in their ass on 911...they fell in love with the wrong man :toast

This is one fkd up dude ^^


I love watching PBF fight because he is so damn good. Not since P. Whitaker have I seen a guy this good defensively, and I believe Floyd is actually better. The above being said Floyd took way too much punishment last night. He cannot and will not fight like this if he ever gets together with Pac. Arum is in the way, I wish Pac would walk away from Arum and Floyd could get together with him and HBO and do a split 50/50. They would both make more money. Worldwide Pac is much MORE popular than Mayweather. They need each other for huge bucks never before seen.

[webshad]

This is one fkd up dude ^^


I love watching PBF fight because he is so damn good. Not since P. Whitaker have I seen a guy this good defensively, and I believe Floyd is actually better. The above being said Floyd took way too much punishment last night. He cannot and will not fight like this if he ever gets together with Pac. Arum is in the way, I wish Pac would walk away from Arum and Floyd could get together with him and HBO and do a split 50/50. They would both make more money. Worldwide Pac is much MORE popular than Mayweather. They need each other for huge bucks never before seen.

The fight should be in Manila, that would be awesome.

However, style makes fight, and I do believe if they both get together, the fight will be boring. Manny would press the fight, Mayweather will just backoff and counter.

I would love to see Sergio Martinez fight Mayweather or Pacquiao.

[pgardn]

The fight should be in Manila, that would be awesome.

However, style makes fight, and I do believe if they both get together, the fight will be boring. Manny would press the fight, Mayweather will just backoff and counter.

I would love to see Sergio Martinez fight Mayweather or Pacquiao.

I would also. But I would like to see them fight each other before they are too old. Manny is very good at the hunt. He throws punches from such odd positions, I dont think PBF would be used to this. After Floyd counters he is gonna get hit immediately. You just know Manny is gonna hit him. I want to see how good he really is as I think he could take Mannys stuff and give it back.

[TheGreatest23]

Just heard Jim Lampley on the radio and two things he said stuck out.

1) he's always said that Mayweather would beat Pacquiao, but he is now saying it will be pretty even. He said that Pacquiao's power and speed will pressure Floyd to open up like with Cotto to make sure he gets some rounds, but pacs punches will hurt more.

2) he doesnt understand why Floyd brought up blood testing when manny already agreed to it a few years ago. the main issue is the purse split which mayweather wants more than 50%.

[TheGreatest23]

.and he'll likely fall with a right from Floyd as Floyd is leaning back.

haha when was the last time you seen manny get knocked down? hahah...you really think mayweather can knock him down...you're a fool.

[pass1st]

Just heard Jim Lampley on the radio and two things he said stuck out.

1) he's always said that Mayweather would beat Pacquiao, but he is now saying it will be pretty even. He said that Pacquiao's power and speed will pressure Floyd to open up like with Cotto to make sure he gets some rounds, but pacs punches will hurt more.

2) he doesnt understand why Floyd brought up blood testing when manny already agreed to it a few years ago. the main issue is the purse split which mayweather wants more than 50%.

'Sup Pacfan, who fought Cotto at his natural weight? :downspin:

[TheMACHINE]

'Sup Pacfan, who fought Cotto at his natural weight? :downspin:

who do you think hits harder, pac at 147 or cotto at 154?

[Koolaid_Man]

haha when was the last time you seen manny get knocked down? hahah...you really think mayweather can knock him down...you're a fool.

no actually you're the imbecile my fine friend...when that Human Catfish look-alike stops using roids then he won't be able to walk through punches..

Mayweather is basically a bigger, stronger, and more defensive version of the human catfish look-alike :lol

[TheMACHINE]

lol @ being stronger. Needs to sucker punch a guy twice to KO him.

[Koolaid_Man]

Just heard Jim Lampley on the radio and two things he said stuck out.

1) he's always said that Mayweather would beat Pacquiao, but he is now saying it will be pretty even. He said that Pacquiao's power and speed will pressure Floyd to open up like with Cotto to make sure he gets some rounds, but pacs punches will hurt more.

2) he doesnt understand why Floyd brought up blood testing when manny already agreed to it a few years ago. the main issue is the purse split which mayweather wants more than 50%.


the human catfish look-alike doesn't deserve a 50-50 split...He's never came close to Mayweathers earning power because he can't draw on his own like Mayweather can....Pacman will be forced to take it or leave and if he's smart he will take it..I think the split should 65-35 in favor of Pretty Boy Floyd plus only 20% of the PPV money going Pacman...that's good enough..take that shit or leave it...:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

lol @ being stronger. Needs to sucker punch a guy twice to KO him.


it wasn't a sucker punch...the flying human head butting Mexican was looking right at him when he clocked him...deal with it...his ass will learn next time not to try a flying head butt on a nigga...:lol

[pass1st]

who do you think hits harder, pac at 147 or cotto at 154?

A better question is: Who do you think has better stamina, a fighter at his natural weight or one that had to cut down to fight?

[Koolaid_Man]

A better question is: Who do you think has better stamina, a fighter at his natural weight or one that had to cut down to fight?


The one that isn't juicing...Shane Mosely admitted to using Roids, Margachito used loaded gloves and was cheating...No reason to think the human cat-fish wasn't cheating...He was walk through too many shots that should have KO him...dude has some good Vietnam shit hidden in his system...no doubt in my mind...and Floyd being an insider already knows the game and how they do it :toast

[TheGreatest23]

What i gathered from kool-aid's posts.

1) Pacquiao CANT be THAT good.
2) Mayweather is scared so he wants to price himself out of the fight.

all excuses to stop a mega fight from happening.

[pass1st]

What i gathered from kool-aid's posts.

1) Pacquiao CANT be THAT good.
2) Mayweather is scared so he wants to price himself out of the fight.

all excuses to stop a mega fight from happening.

Still haven't answered the question: Who fought Cotto at his natural weight?

[TheGreatest23]

A better question is: Who do you think has better stamina, a fighter at his natural weight or one that had to cut down to fight?


Still haven't answered the question: Who fought Cotto at his natural weight?


LOL @ STAMINA!!! ...Cotto was knocked down by pac in the 3rd round. Stamina has anything to do with it then :lmao

Mayweather nut-huggers are hilarious.

[pass1st]

LOL @ STAMINA!!! ...Cotto was knocked down by pac in the 3rd round. Stamina has anything to do with it then :lmao

Mayweather nut-huggers are hilarious.

Wtf :lol

Stamina has everything to do with being knocked down or not

[TheGreatest23]

Wtf :lol

Stamina has everything to do with being knocked down or not

yah cuz professional boxers ALWAYS get knocked down in the 3rd round when they go down 1 weight class.

:lmao

[TheMACHINE]

poor Cotto...

he was out of gas in the 3rd round....hence why he fell on the canvas. poor guy.

[TheGreatest23]

Mayweather fans are the same cats who say Kobe is better than Jordan. Coincidence?

Just proves thier stupidity.

[TheMACHINE]

Mayweather fans are the same cats who say Kobe is better than Jordan. Coincidence?

Just proves thier stupidity.

low blow dude...low blow

[FkLA]

WTF is Biebs doing in there? lol

http://thejustinbiebershrine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/justin-bieber-floyd-mayweather-lilwayne-50cent-560x373.jpg

[pass1st]

yah cuz professional boxers ALWAYS get knocked down in the 3rd round when they go down 1 weight class.

:lmao

You're :downspin: this a lot pac-fan

A professional fighter gets knocked down by being winded, hit in one of their trouble areas (eg: chin) or catching a blow in a bad way.

The latter two usually happen because of stamina causing you to falter when being in a defensive stance. Strength, while it plays a role, doesn't solely cause a knockdown unless we're talking about a 145 fighter fighting a 200+ fighter :lol

Typical pac-fan logic, avoiding the question: Who fought Cotto as his natural weight?

[pass1st]

Mayweather fans are the same cats who say Kobe is better than Jordan. Coincidence?

Just proves thier stupidity.

Please quote me saying Kobe is better than Jordan :wakeup

I'm one of those "I don't really care for Kobe" laker fans

[pass1st]

poor Cotto...

he was out of gas in the 3rd round....hence why he fell on the canvas. poor guy.

Stamina goes short-term and long-term. Aerobic vs Anaerobic. Anaerobic is what helps fighters pull off flurries from time to time and not be flustered, while Aerobic lets them go the distance.

[TheMACHINE]

lol stamina excuse after getting knocked down 1 minute into the 3rd round!! haha

[Trill Clinton]

has anybody listed the fighters floyd allegedly ducked yet?

[pass1st]

lol stamina excuse after getting knocked down 1 minute into the 3rd round!! haha


Stamina goes short-term and long-term. Aerobic vs Anaerobic. Anaerobic is what helps fighters pull off flurries from time to time and not be flustered, while Aerobic lets them go the distance.

[pass1st]

has anybody listed the fighters floyd allegedly ducked yet?

He ducked Shane, but so did Pac. Shane back then would have knocked out either of them

[TheMACHINE]

You're :downspin: this a lot pac-fan

Strength, while it plays a role, doesn't solely cause a knockdown unless we're talking about a 145 fighter fighting a 200+ fighter :lol



ahh...so youre saying that pacquiao isnt STRONG...and all those knock downs he did to morales, barrera, hatton, cotto, marquez etc we're all flukes. okkkkk

[TheMACHINE]

has anybody listed the fighters floyd allegedly ducked yet?

being that he's been in the welterweight division for around 6 years, id say just about the whole division.

[Trill Clinton]

He ducked Shane, but so did Pac. Shane back then would have knocked out either of them

but Shane was still in pretty good condition when they fought in 2010, though. He kicked margarito's ass the year before. So I wouldn't call it a duck.

Besides Mosely has a history of juicing. I wouldn't fight a fighter taking roids *cough* pacman*cough* either.

[Trill Clinton]

being that he's been in the welterweight division for around 6 years, id say just about the whole division.

who specifically? He fought all the top fighters except kosta zsu.

[TheNextGen]

You're :downspin: this a lot pac-fan



Typical pac-fan logic, avoiding the question: Who fought Cotto as his natural weight?

Pass1st, what's Cotto's natural weight?

[pass1st]

ahh...so youre saying that pacquiao isnt STRONG...and all those knock downs he did to morales, barrera, hatton, cotto, marquez etc we're all flukes. okkkkk

Oh, sure, he's stronger than all of us for sure :lol

He got T/KOs and knock outs because he out lasted fighters, which is....wait for it....dependent on Stamina!

Nobody will say Ali was stronger than Liston, but nobody will say Liston had better stamina.

[pass1st]

Pass1st, what's Cotto's natural weight?

Light Middle

[TheNextGen]

who specifically? He fought all the top fighters except kosta zsu.

when he first joined the welterweight scene in 2007, the TOP WELTERWEIGHT FIGHTERS at the time were:

Cotto
Clottey
Berto
Margarito
Mosely
Mayweather

you do the research and see who and when he fought any of those guys.

[pass1st]

but Shane was still in pretty good condition when they fought in 2010, though. He kicked margarito's ass the year before. So I wouldn't call it a duck.

Besides Mosely has a history of juicing. I wouldn't fight a fighter taking roids *cough* pacman*cough* either.

Yeah, but Shane's age started to show. Mayweather might have taken Shane in his prime years, but it would be a 50-50 between Money being knocked out and Shane losing by points.

[TheNextGen]

Light Middle

Then can you explain why the 7 fights previous to Pacquiao was at 147 and below if thats his "natural wieght"?

[TheGreatest23]

Then can you explain why the 7 fights previous to Pacquiao was at 147 and below if thats his "natural wieght"?

ohhh snap!! If this is true, then pass1st arguement about stamina and natural weight just went fucking flying out the door.

http://psychobabblesblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/popcorn.gif

[Trill Clinton]

when he first joined the welterweight scene in 2007, the TOP WELTERWEIGHT FIGHTERS at the time were:

Cotto
Clottey
Berto
Margarito
Mosely
Mayweather

you do the research and see who and when he fought any of those guys.

margarito didn't become relevant until after he fought cotto in 2008 and he too is a cheater. cotto isn't the same as he was in 07' but he's still a good fighter, right? Floyd is 4 years older and still beat him. already discussed mosely, Clottey? really?:lol nobody wants to see floyd kick Clottey's ass by punching through his turtle shell fighting style for 12 rounds.

so basically ya'lls logic is floyd ducked the fighters because he didn't fight them in 2007-2008 but beat the same people in 2010-2012?

[TheMACHINE]

margarito didn't become relevant until after he fought cotto in 2008 and he too is a cheater. cotto isn't the same as he was in 07' but he's still a good fighter, right? Floyd is 4 years older and still beat him. already discussed mosely, Clottey? really?:lol nobody wants to see floyd kick Clottey's ass by punching through his turtle shell fighting style for 12 rounds.

so basically ya'lls logic is floyd ducked the fighters because he didn't fight them in 2007-2008 but beat the same people in 2010-2012?

ahh..the old..."he'll kick everyones ass anyways so he doesnt NEED to fight them" logic.

I rather see the "i'll fight everyone and prove it in the ring" logic.

[pass1st]

when he first joined the welterweight scene in 2007, the TOP WELTERWEIGHT FIGHTERS at the time were:

Cotto
Clottey
Berto
Margarito
Mosely
Mayweather

you do the research and see who and when he fought any of those guys.

Natural weight is a fighter's weight when he performs the best. Right now, his natural weight is light middle, he got older and most people believe he's playing better at that weight than Welter or Light Welter.

On top of that, Pac fought him at catch weight

[TheMACHINE]

Then can you explain why the 7 fights previous to Pacquiao was at 147 and below if thats his "natural wieght"?

i didnt even know that...cant wait to see what pass1st comes up with to counter that.

[pass1st]

Then can you explain why the 7 fights previous to Pacquiao was at 147 and below if thats his "natural wieght"?

His natural weight was welter up until early 2009 when he showed his age against Clottey. He then started moving towards light middle, which is a typical change fighters undergo as they age. When you lose a step, you move up and make up for that in strength. Natural weight is not static, it's a gauge of what weight the fighter performs best at.

[pass1st]

i didnt even know that...cant wait to see what pass1st comes up with to counter that.

Already did :toast

[Trill Clinton]

and mosely ducked floyd because of a cavity, please.

[Trill Clinton]

ahh..the old..."he'll kick everyones ass anyways so he doesnt NEED to fight them" logic.

I rather see the "i'll fight everyone and prove it in the ring" logic.

he did fight them...

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol you can always count on Machine and his trolls to bring their satin white armor to defend Pacquiao's hideous ass, tbh..

[TheMACHINE]

Already did :toast

so you are blaming pacquiao for fighting Cotto at the weight that he has ALWAYS been fighting every other fighter before him.

hmmmm ok.

[pass1st]

so you are blaming pacquiao for fighting Cotto at the weight that he has ALWAYS been fighting every other fighter before him.

hmmmm ok.

Not blaming anybody, Cotta agreed to the fight.

Mayweather just had a more impressive victory since Cotto was in the best possible shape while Pac, in a catch-weight bout, fought him when he was making the transition to light middle.

[TheMACHINE]

So these are the 5 fights before Cotto fought Pacquiao
Clottey 146
Jenning 147
Margarito 147
Gomez 146.5
Mosely 146.5

then he fights pacquiao and all of a sudden its not his "natural weight"

HAHAHA WTFFF!! :lol

[TheNextGen]

Mayweather just had a more impressive victory since Cotto was in the best possible shape while Pac, in a catch-weight bout, fought him when he was making the transition to light middle.

:lmao

3 years older, 2 poundings later, no knock downs, 12 round decision

:lmao:lol

[pass1st]

So these are the 5 fights before Cotto fought Pacquiao
Clottey 146
Jenning 147
Margarito 147
Gomez 146.5
Mosely 146.5

then he fights pacquiao and all of a sudden its not his "natural weight"

HAHAHA WTFFF!! :lol

Did you watch Cotto vs Clottey? I kind of doubt it, because Cotto was visibly not the same fighter and was getting hit more than usual. Cotto wasn't the kind of fighter that would get abused by flurries and combinations, but he fell prey to Clottey's. Even though Cotto knocked him down, it was a very close victory

[Trill Clinton]

your point? pacman made Cotto fight all the way down at 145, Cotto was at a disadvantage but, no excuses. everybody knows steroid Manny is the catch weight king.

[Trill Clinton]

:lmao

3 years older, 2 poundings later, no knock downs, 12 round decision

:lmao:lol

:lmao floyd 35 and Cotto 31:lmao

:lmao almost 40 and still kicking ass:lmao

[TheNextGen]

your point? pacman made Cotto fight all the way down at 145, Cotto was at a disadvantage but, no excuses. everybody knows steroid Manny is the catch weight king.

ALL THE WAY DOWN = 1 pound lighter

:lmao

GTFO Trill

[Trill Clinton]

http://i54.tinypic.com/zogv1v.jpg

[TheNextGen]

:lmao floyd 35 and Cotto 31:lmao

:lmao almost 40 and still kicking ass:lmao

35 years old = ALMOST 40

GTFO Trill

:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

ALL THE WAY DOWN = 1 pound lighter

:lmao

GTFO Trill

so floyd went up and fought Cotto at his natural weight but pacman couldn't? why?

[TheNextGen]

Mayweather fans losing arguements...going back to "steroids" accusation. HAHHAHA

[pass1st]

:lmao

3 years older, 2 poundings later, no knock downs, 12 round decision

:lmao:lol

:lolCatch-weight pounding
:lolHasn't been a great welterweight since Mosley
:lolLost to Mayweather at weight, fought better than he has since Mosley

[TheNextGen]

so floyd went up and fought Cotto at his natural weight but pacman couldn't? why?

again..you must not have read a few post up when i proved that pacquiao fought cotto in the same division cotto fought his last 7 fights.

GTFO Trill

:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

35 years old = ALMOST 40

GTFO Trill

:lmao

:lmao Floyd ducking Cotto but fought him anyway:lmao

wheredeydodatat?

[TheNextGen]

:lmao Floyd ducking Cotto but fought him anyway:lmao

wheredeydodatat?

LOL thinking fighting Cotto 5 years later elimnates the fact that he was ducking him in the first 5 years

GTFO Trill :lmao

[Trill Clinton]

again..you must not have read a few post up when i proved that pacquiao fought cotto in the same division cotto fought his last 7 fights.

GTFO Trill

:lmao

bottom line is. Floy went up in weight, Cotto's natural weight and took his belt. Steroid Manny had to use catch weight. I'm not hating on Manny, like I said, he's the king of catch weight. When you're juicing you can do things like that.

[pass1st]

Mayweather fans losing arguements...going back to "steroids" accusation. HAHHAHA

:lolPac fan thinking natural weight is static
:lolThinking Cotto was at his best still in welterweight after Mosley
:lolOverrated fighter that has trouble with technical boxers like Marques

[TheNextGen]

:lolCatch-weight pounding
:lolHasn't been a great welterweight since Mosley
:lolLost to Mayweather at weight, fought better than he has since Mosley

:lol thinking 1 pound lighter was the reason he got knocked down by Manny 1 minute into the 3rd round.

:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

LOL thinking fighting Cotto 5 years later elimnates the fact that he was ducking him in the first 5 years

GTFO Trill :lmao

why fight him now then? makes no sense, when you duck a fighter you don't fight them. especially when they're 4 years your junior and you're pushing 40:lmao

[TheNextGen]

why fight him now then? makes no sense, when you duck a fighter you don't fight them. especially when they're 4 years your junior and you're pushing 40:lmao

are u for reals? HAHHAHA

im convinced your just trolling me cuz you havent made one good arguement for Mayweather yet.

Atleast pass1st was attempting to make a good arguement till i shut him down with the facts.

[Trill Clinton]

The floyd hate is strong in here. That means he's doing something right. I can relate.

[pass1st]

:lol thinking 1 pound lighter was the reason he got knocked down by Manny 1 minute into the 3rd round.

:lmao

:lolNot understanding how boxers at the higher weight make catch-weight
:lolDehydrated
:lolPac praised for fighting bigger fighters, but pac-fans don't realize the bigger fighter is usually in worse shape

[TheNextGen]

The floyd hate is strong in here. That means he's doing something right. I can relate.

haha mayweather fan ends all arguements that way.

1) must be on roids
2) hate is trong, he must be doing somethign right

Cant use Floyds RESUME cuz that would backfire all arguements.

[pass1st]

The floyd hate is strong in here. That means he's doing something right. I can relate.

Money's job is to be hated :lol Helps fill in the seats and make record breaking PPV fights

[Trill Clinton]

are for reals? HAHHAHA

im convinced your just trolling me cuz you havent made one good arguement for Mayweather yet.

Atleast pass1st was attempting to make a good arguement till i shut him down with the facts.

I shut down that logic you and the Machine used of floyd "ducking fighters" when he either kicked their ass anyway or said fighters ducked him, like mosely did in 05' with his "sore tooth". your logic of him ducking then fighting them anyways makes NO SENSE.

[TheNextGen]

:lolNot understanding how boxers at the higher weight make catch-weight
:lolDehydrated
:lolPac praised for fighting bigger fighters, but pac-fans don't realize the bigger fighter is usually in worse shape

:lol 1 pound lighter fighter is so dehydrated that he gets knocked down by soft hitting pacquiao in 3rd round

:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

Money's job is to be hated :lol Helps fill in the seats and make record breaking PPV fights

and I bet the same people who hate him bought the ppv fight, knowing he was going to win:toast

[TheNextGen]

and I bet the same people who hate him bought the ppv fight, knowing he was going to win:toast

and i did...it was a good fight...better than i expected.

[pass1st]

:lol 1 pound lighter fighter is so dehydrated that he gets knocked down by soft hitting pacquiao in 3rd round

:lmao

:lol Typically fought 147
:lol Thinking 1-2 pounds is nothing
:lol Knowing jack shit how fighters make up the weight difference
Probably going to bring up natural weight again

[pass1st]

and I bet the same people who hate him bought the ppv fight, knowing he was going to win:toast

Probably, but their were praying for Mayweather to get KOd. They probably got their Money's worth seeing Mayweather draw blood for once in a long time

[TheNextGen]

:lol Typically fought 147
:lol Thinking 1-2 pounds is nothing
:lol Knowing jack shit how fighters make up the weight difference
Probably going to bring up natural weight again

lol backpeddling after making arguements that cotto should have been a light middleweight. now trying to make arguments for a 1.5 pound difference.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

GTFO Pass1st. You made a good attempt...gotta give you that. ;)

[TheNextGen]

btw.."natural weight" was your arguement...and it failed miserably. So dont get mad when i bring it up EVERYTIME now. HAHAHAH

[pass1st]

lol backpeddling after making arguements that cotto should have been a light middleweight. now trying to make arguments for a 1.5 pound difference.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

GTFO Pass1st. You made a good attempt...gotta give you that. ;)

See the white text :toast

Just because a fighter is used to weight doesn't mean it's his natural weight. Like I explained, natural weight is the weight a fighter would be best at.

[BlackSwordsMan]

lol defending millionaire athletes who don't know you fags exist

[pass1st]

btw.."natural weight" was your arguement...and it failed miserably. So dont get mad when i bring it up EVERYTIME now. HAHAHAH

I baited you to bring it up because I knew you still didn't understand what natural weight was :lol

[pass1st]

lol defending millionaire athletes who don't know you fags exist

:depressed

[TheNextGen]

See the white text :toast

Just because a fighter is used to weight doesn't mean it's his natural weight. Like I explained, natural weight is the weight a fighter would be best at.

and i bring up that he has never fought at 154 prior to Pacquiao, that NATURAL WEIGHT you insisted.

[Venti Quattro]

Pacquiao is also a bible thumper. :lol

[pass1st]

and i bring up that he has never fought at 154 prior to Pacquiao, that NATURAL WEIGHT you insisted.

By your logic 5 years from now his natural weight will still be 147 :lol

He lost speed, boxers go up in weight when that happens. His natural weight, when fighting Pac, was light middle weight.

[TheNextGen]

By your logic 5 years from now his natural weight will still be 147 :lol

He lost speed, boxers go up in weight when that happens. His natural weight, when fighting Pac, was light middle weight.

hahhahahha you're a fool

Cotto fights everyone at 147, then all of a sudden not big enough to fight Pacquaio.

You obviously dont know shit. You're just trying to backpeddle and draw straws to save some face.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=33535&cat=boxer

/end arguement. pass1st loses.

[TheMACHINE]

Waiting for Pass to pretend he was just trolling thenextGen the whole time. lol

I'm not convinced Pass really believes what hes saying.

[Pelicans78]

I think Floyd would win if he focused on counter-punching Pac like Marquez did. Floyd dominated Marquez.

Also, there shouldn't be a 50/50 split money wise. Floyd is undefeated. Pac is not.

[pass1st]

hahhahahha you're a fool

Cotto fights everyone at 147, then all of a sudden not big enough to fight Pacquaio.

You obviously dont know shit. You're just trying to backpeddle and draw straws to save some face.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=33535&cat=boxer

/end arguement. pass1st loses.

Why are you avoiding the common practice of Boxers moving up in weight as they age?

It's not a matter of him being "not big enough", its him fighting at a weight that he no longer excels in. Mayweather, on the other hand, fought him at his adjusted weight.


Waiting for Pass to pretend he was just trolling thenextGen the whole time. lol

I'm not convinced Pass really believes what hes saying.

You still haven't answered my question: Who fought Cotto when he was in better shape?

[Koolaid_Man]

He ducked Shane, but so did Pac. Shane back then would have knocked out either of them

Shane was on roids pass and he even admitted it. He would have beat PBF and know one would have ever known he was juicing until recently. :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Mayweather fans are the same cats who say Kobe is better than Jordan. Coincidence?

Just proves thier stupidity.

I know its hard to resist but please leave Kobe out of this one. :lol

[pass1st]

Shane was on roids pass and he even admitted it. He would have beat PBF and know one would have ever known he was juicing until recently. :lol

Then Mayweather ducked without knowing Shane was roided :downspin:

[Koolaid_Man]

Pacquiao is also a bible thumper. :lol

He's a human catfish

[mavs>spurs]

he may be all that but floyd is still running scared from him. i don't even think its because he thinks pacquiao can beat him, but because he knows he at least has a decent shot and that it could jeopardize his precious undefeated streak.

[Koolaid_Man]

Then Mayweather ducked without knowing Shane was roided :downspin:

Maybe or maybe not. I'm not sure what he knew or thought in his private circle. maybe the money wasn't there...people avoid certain fights all the time and not because of fear.

[pass1st]

Maybe or maybe not. I'm not sure what he knew or thought in his private circle. maybe the money wasn't there...people avoid certain fights all the time and not because of fear.

Mainly because Mayweather knew he didn't have any real advantage and he would have to give it everything he had to pull a win, if even that was enough. Going the distance with a prime welterweight Cotto is intimidating.

[Koolaid_Man]

he may be all that but floyd is still running scared from him. i don't even think its because he thinks pacquiao can beat him, but because he knows he at least has a decent shot and that it could jeopardize his precious undefeated streak.

Spoken like a true couch potato.

Listen couch potato when you fight on the biggest stage for as long as Floyd has its not fear. You obviously don't know, understand, or cant relate to competition and intestinal fortitude.

[Koolaid_Man]

Mainly because Mayweather knew he didn't have any real advantage and he would have to give it everything he had to pull a win, if even that was enough. Going the distance with a prime welterweight Cotto is intimidating.

Maybe...but the cat been in some brawls in his career...

[Cry Havoc]

:lolPac praised for fighting bigger fighters, but pac-fans don't realize the bigger fighter is usually in worse shape

So let me get this straight, Manny knocks out a bigger fighter and it's because the guy is in worse shape. Floyd knocks out a bigger fighter, and your response is "omg he beat him at his comfort weight where he's stronger and fights better :jack :jack :jack"

I'm just trying to get an idea of your logic here.

I'm also curious as to why Floyd won't fight Manny after he said that he'd be an "easy fight".

"The Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is not going to happen," Mayweather said. "It's not my fault."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/mma/boxing/05/06/mayweather.pacquiao.ap/index.html#ixzz1uE3vMfV5

:lmao Bitchmade
:lmao Scared of losing that perfect record
:lmao Hiding behing 3-4 different excuses

[Cry Havoc]

"I don't know where we're going to go from here because we basically have fought everybody in this sport," Mayweather said. "I don't have to fight if I don't want to."

:cry :cry :cry

[Cry Havoc]

Boxing: The only sport that you can run from opponents and have your fans blindly praise you for it.

[Koolaid_Man]

Boxing: The only sport that you can run from opponents and have your fans blindly praise you for it.


Pacman lost me when he initially refused to take the blood tests and then came up with every excuse in the world as to why he wouldn't take the tests (From being scared of needles, to it goes against his religious beliefs, to it drains him of energy, to he's just superstitious). How in the fuck this guy could say anything and you fuckers still beleive him is in a word - Classic...:lol

Floyd basically knows the guy is cheating all real boxing experts know it as well. Some will dismiss it because they hate Mayweather...fine but don't play this morality card when it comes to blacks like Barry Bonds and then ignore it when it comes to whites like Roger Clemons...in any white man's world calling out cheaters or those you think may be cheating is a noble idea...but when it's someone you think is your great white hope you abandon your principals and now testing for cheating is no longer a noble idea

[pass1st]

So let me get this straight, Manny knocks out a bigger fighter and it's because the guy is in worse shape. Floyd knocks out a bigger fighter, and your response is "omg he beat him at his comfort weight where he's stronger and fights better :jack :jack :jack"

I'm just trying to get an idea of your logic here.

I'm also curious as to why Floyd won't fight Manny after he said that he'd be an "easy fight".

"The Pacquiao-Mayweather fight is not going to happen," Mayweather said. "It's not my fault."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/mma/boxing/05/06/mayweather.pacquiao.ap/index.html#ixzz1uE3vMfV5

:lmao Bitchmade
:lmao Scared of losing that perfect record
:lmao Hiding behing 3-4 different excuses

Your boxing takes are as bad as your basketball takes :lol

If you train your ass off at 1 weight and you're best at that weight, you will be able to take on a fighter within typical catch-weight range very well. The guy who has to go down in catch-weight is almost always the one at disadvantage. Being bigger is a factor, as well as being faster, more durable and having more gas in the tank.

Cotto might have been slightly bigger, but he simply was not suited for that weight anymore. Boxers almost always are forced to move up in weight when they aren't fast enough for their weight class. You have to be some bandwagon boxing fan to not see that there is more to a fighter than strength.

At any rate, take a look at Cotto fighting a good boxer in Clottey, but nowhere near elite level. When a fighter struggles against that tier of fighter in their weight class, it is a red flag to either move up or retire.
3OXv3QUGEAI

Also, why Pac and Mayweather duck eachother and shit is just politics. Mayweather just wants to be paid more than Pac, quite a bit more (60-65%). The only fighter Mayweather was scared of was Shane, he didn't want to risk losing when he was rising as the #1 p4p boxer.

[webshad]

I would also. But I would like to see them fight each other before they are too old. Manny is very good at the hunt. He throws punches from such odd positions, I dont think PBF would be used to this. After Floyd counters he is gonna get hit immediately. You just know Manny is gonna hit him. I want to see how good he really is as I think he could take Mannys stuff and give it back.

PBF has the height advantage and reach advantage, and he will use it wisely. Pacquiao is even shorter than Cotto and has a smaller reach than him as well. Remember how huge PBF looked against Marquez?

As for the money, PBF doesn't deserve 60% of the purse, it should be a 50/50 split with 10% going to the winner.

In the end, I don't believe that fight will ever take place because Pacquiao has much more to lose than PBF.

Pacquiao has a chance to run for presidency in the Philippines and win, PBF can only dream of being a president. I do believe a Pacquiao loss, it will hurt his popularity.

Anyways, Pacquiao/Bradley is gonna be FIREWORKS! Trust me on that! Enjoy!

GO :flag:

[pass1st]

PBF has the height advantage and reach advantage, and he will use it wisely. Pacquiao is even shorter than Cotto and has a smaller reach than him as well. Remember how huge PBF looked against Marquez?

As for the money, PBF doesn't deserve 60% of the purse, it should be a 50/50 split with 10% going to the winner.

In the end, I don't believe that fight will ever take place because Pacquiao has much more to lose than PBF.

Pacquiao has a chance to run for presidency in the Philippines and win, PBF can only dream of being a president. I do believe a Pacquiao loss, it will hurt his popularity.

Anyways, Pacquiao/Bradley is gonna be FIREWORKS! Trust me on that! Enjoy!

GO :flag:

More people want to see Mayweather lose a fight than Mayweather fight Pac, the ball is in Money's court. He should get the bigger cut of all his fights until he loses one

[TheNextGen]

More people want to see Mayweather lose a fight than Mayweather fight Pac, the ball is in Money's court. He should get the bigger cut of all his fights until he loses one

wow..mayweather fans fall for everything Mayweather says. You know pass1st, you can always say

"FUCK IT. JUST FIGHT 50/50 and beat down Pacquiao"

...instead its...

"oh yah..he must be on roids if mayweather doesnt want to fight him...oh yah...he should get more than 50% since manny lost 10 years ago".

For fucks sake man. What happened to just fighting a guy to prove your the best.

[Ashy Larry]

The one constant in Floyd not fighting Cotto a few years back is the same constant that's keeping him from fighting Manny ....... Bob Arum. He doesn't fight Cotto while he's with Arum but no sooner than Cotto leaves Arum, Floyd fights a younger Cotto and Cotto scores his biggest pay day of his career.

Manny will one day see that Bob Arum is runnin' up in his balloon knot ........

[Venti Quattro]

Arum should die a slow and painful death.

[Koolaid_Man]

Interesting read:

Hatton: Mayweather would beat Pacquiao



By Chris Williams:



Ricky Hatton came out this week and said that Floyd Mayweather Jr. would wipe the deck with Manny Pacquiao if they were to ever get around to fighting. This is yet another fighter that sees clearly that Mayweather is simply too god for the smaller Filipino fighter and would make mincemeat of him if Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum would allow Pacquiao to fight Mayweather. Arum does a good job of protecting his fighters. If you don’t believe me, look at how Arum has protected WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. for what seems like forever by not putting him against guys would likely knock him out.



Hatton feels that Mayweather is too intelligent in the ring for Pacquiao to handle and he would pick him apart slowly. Hatton says he’s always felt that Mayweather would school Pacquiao if they fought. Hatton didn’t just come up with this recently after watching Pacquiao win by a gift decision over Juan Manuel Marquez last month. Hatton has always seen Mayweather as a class above the brawling Pacquiao. Hatton likes Pacquiao better as a person than he does Mayweather, but as far as in the ring, Hatton sees Mayweather as being the better fighter.


You have to imagine that Arum feels the same way too, because he hasn’t been in any kind of hurray to match his gravy train fighter Pacquiao up with Mayweather and it’s pretty obvious why he’s been so reluctant to do that. Mayweather would be far too good for Pacquiao and it would mess things up for Arum once Pacquiao got decisively beat. The paydays would likely drop in the amount of money that’s brought in and it’s unclear whether Pacquiao would ever get back to where he is now once Mayweather takes care of him.

[Koolaid_Man]

Interesting read:

Hatton: Mayweather would beat Pacquiao



By Chris Williams:



Ricky Hatton came out this week and said that Floyd Mayweather Jr. would wipe the deck with Manny Pacquiao if they were to ever get around to fighting. This is yet another fighter that sees clearly that Mayweather is simply too god for the smaller Filipino fighter and would make mincemeat of him if Pacquiao’s promoter Bob Arum would allow Pacquiao to fight Mayweather. Arum does a good job of protecting his fighters. If you don’t believe me, look at how Arum has protected WBC middleweight champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. for what seems like forever by not putting him against guys would likely knock him out.



Hatton feels that Mayweather is too intelligent in the ring for Pacquiao to handle and he would pick him apart slowly. Hatton says he’s always felt that Mayweather would school Pacquiao if they fought. Hatton didn’t just come up with this recently after watching Pacquiao win by a gift decision over Juan Manuel Marquez last month. Hatton has always seen Mayweather as a class above the brawling Pacquiao. Hatton likes Pacquiao better as a person than he does Mayweather, but as far as in the ring, Hatton sees Mayweather as being the better fighter.


You have to imagine that Arum feels the same way too, because he hasn’t been in any kind of hurray to match his gravy train fighter Pacquiao up with Mayweather and it’s pretty obvious why he’s been so reluctant to do that. Mayweather would be far too good for Pacquiao and it would mess things up for Arum once Pacquiao got decisively beat. The paydays would likely drop in the amount of money that’s brought in and it’s unclear whether Pacquiao would ever get back to where he is now once Mayweather takes care of him.

^ Hey Pacman Lovers that's it and that's all

[Koolaid_Man]

another interesting read





De La Hoya laughs at Arum’s excuses for keeping Pacquiao away from Mayweather fight



By Chris Williams:



Oscar De La Hoya thought Bob Arum’s excuses were comical for him not allowing his fighter Manny Pacquiao to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. on May 5th. I’m not sure if Arum is aware how bad his excuses are making him and Pacquiao look, but he really needs to quiet down because he’s making look obvious that he doesn’t want to see Pacquiao in a risky fight where the outcome might be bad for him.De La Hoya said this on his twitter page: “Hahaha. That’s another funny excuse from Bob Arum “Cuts not healed” or “Not enough time for an outdoor arena. Let’s play the excuse game.”



De La Hoya obviously knows the sport and is aware that it doesn’t take over six months for a cut to heal. On Friday, Arum said he couldn’t put Pacquiao back in the ring by
May 5th to fight Mayweather because Pacquiao’s cut from November might not be properly healed by then. On May 5th, it will have been six months since Pacquiao’s fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, which is plenty of time for the cut to heal.



Arum also made the excuse that he can’t put Pacquiao in with Mayweather on May 5th because he wants to have a bigger arena in Vegas put together and that can’t happen by May 5th. It just sounded so flimsy the excuses Arum was making. I know he was being interviewed and some of the questions were catching him by surprise but he should have had some gems stored up from his past years of not matching Pacquiao up with Mayweather. Arum should have the excuses well memorized by now, don’t you think?

[Venti Quattro]

Hatton is just hating because Pacquiao absolutely destroyed him.

[midnightpulp]

Pacman lost me when he initially refused to take the blood tests and then came up with every excuse in the world as to why he wouldn't take the tests (From being scared of needles, to it goes against his religious beliefs, to it drains him of energy, to he's just superstitious). How in the fuck this guy could say anything and you fuckers still beleive him is in a word - Classic...:lol

Floyd basically knows the guy is cheating all real boxing experts know it as well. Some will dismiss it because they hate Mayweather...fine but don't play this morality card when it comes to blacks like Barry Bonds and then ignore it when it comes to whites like Roger Clemons...in any white man's world calling out cheaters or those you think may be cheating is a noble idea...but when it's someone you think is your great white hope you abandon your principals and now testing for cheating is no longer a noble idea

Your boys Sharpton and Jesse Jackson invented that shit. 100 black dudes could rape and dismember a convent full of white nuns, screaming to the top of their lungs, "Kill dem white bitches!" and you wouldn't hear a condemning word from those two race baiters. They'd find a way to say the 100 offending blacks were simply acting out after years of "oppression" and "discrimination."

But as soon as a white man looks at a black person the wrong, those two assholes are front and center in the media calling for "justice."

[Koolaid_Man]

this one is a Doozy from Bob Arum....:lmao:lmao:lmao

Mayweather vs Pacquiao: Bob Arum Concerned About Mayweather Racism



(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/2240769/125486895_extra_large.jpg) Ethan Miller - Getty Images


Bob Arum says Floyd Mayweather's "ignorance is so appalling."





Bob Arum was interviewed by Gareth A Davies of the Telegraph (http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/garethadavies/100021343/bob-arum-id-like-to-live-into-my-nineties-to-see-manny-pacquiao-become-president/), and addressed some of his deeper concerns for a fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr:

"It's been an amazing run, that's why I get very very impatient with a lot of this Mayweather nonsense. Because the game plan here is to be president of the Philippines. The game plan is not to be the pound for pound guy for five or six years, it is to transcend boxing and to move on to the rest of his life."
... "One of the reasons I never really was so keen on a Mayweather fight which I now truly believe is an easy fight for Pacquiao is because how Manny is going to be tainted by some of the vile things that Mayweather comes out with. Even though he'll be the good guy, God knows what Mayweather is capable of saying. It's one thing to talk about how much better a fighter he is and Manny can't do this or that, but Mayweather, who has no sensibility in this, is capable of insulting the country. The ignorance is so appalling."
I doubt it would really go down that way. Mayweather has, of course, had his racist rants on his own weird ass web cam show, and he caught a lot of flak for that. But he hasn't brought them to official press functions. Honestly, I think Floyd's so strange that he might have thought that his UStream show wasn't, like -- I don't know how to put this. Like it didn't matter, or that it was an equivalent to speaking out of the public eye at his own dinner table or something.


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Now I don't know whether or not there's ever any real chance of Manny Pacquiao becoming President in the Philippines, and I'm not going to pretend I understand the political climate there, because I don't have the first clue, and to be 100% honest, my interest on that level is pretty much zero. I like boxers for their fighting, for the most part, and Manny Pacquiao's political career is only of very minor interest to me. I care mostly about whether or not it gets in the way of his boxing career. I mean that for now -- obviously when he retires, he's retired, and best of luck to him. I don't plan on blaming political aspirations for sending him out too soon, and as Pacquiao plans to fight through 2013, that's not really going to be "too soon" anyway.


But anyway, back to the other thing: No, I don't expect Mayweather would be out there all Mr. Yunioshi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DC5pqdp64Q) or anything, because he's honestly not that stupid. Mayweather, I think, understands that that would be PR suicide, and again, I just think he didn't understand how widespread that UStream stuff can get. I'm not saying he's a genius or anything, but he keeps his cool with press conference type stuff, and "official" interviews, and is no worse than Bernard Hopkins or anyone with those, really.
Anyway, if the fight's so easy, they should probably just do everything in their power to make it happen and let Floyd truly duck if he's going to do that. Mayweather could insult the entire country of the Philippines right now without the fight happening if he really wanted to, so I can't see that as a valid concern for not doing the fight.

[Ashy Larry]

Arum should die a slow and painful death.


It's just been a problem trying to make this fight. The fans and the public are being fooled. Bob Arum does not want to make this fight happen. Once he's free from Bob Arum, will the fight happen? Absolutely.

Floyd Mayweather







Seems like as soon as Floyd left Arum, he started making those big pay days ........

[Venti Quattro]

I don't get it; why would Arum not want to make this fight happen?

[Ashy Larry]

I don't get it; why would Arum not want to make this fight happen?


The money factor. Manny is his main meal ticket ...... if that ticket gets ripped, dude loses so much money. That cut excuse was classic. Then the bigger venue excuse was brutal as well. After Manny, Bob has a few good fighters but none of that level and he damn sure can't bank on Margarito bringing in the lootage that Manny generates.

Top PPV fighters:

Floyd
Manny
Cotto

Sooner or later, that contract has got to run out and Manny could really bring that bank in.

[Koolaid_Man]

Your boys Sharpton and Jesse Jackson invented that shit. 100 black dudes could rape and dismember a convent full of white nuns, screaming to the top of their lungs, "Kill dem white bitches!" and you wouldn't hear a condemning word from those two race baiters. They'd find a way to say the 100 offending blacks were simply acting out after years of "oppression" and "discrimination."

But as soon as a white man looks at a black person the wrong, those two assholes are front and center in the media calling for "justice."


I have no quarrals with Brother Jesse and the good Rev Al :lol....and if you do then you must really hate Sean Klannity and Rush Limpbaugh...

I hear all these people talking this and that about them..but Jesse went into a battle zone and rescued soldiers...yeah that's right he's done more good than you and your comrades ever did and they were white soldiers too...he brought them home midget and nothing you haters can say about that shit..

Yugoslavia Hands Over 3 Captured U.S. Soldiers

Crisis in Yugoslavia

Balkans: POWs board bus to leave Belgrade for Croatia with the Rev. Jesse Jackson. NATO raids continue, and the pilot of an F-16 jet is rescued after going down over Serbia.


May 02, 1999 (http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/02)|RICHARD BOUDREAUX and CAROL J. WILLIAMS | TIMES STAFF WRITERS

BELGRADE, Yugoslavia — President Slobodan Milosevic freed three captured U.S. Army soldiers today and sent them homeward with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who had lobbied for their release as a step toward ending 39 days of NATO bombing.
The soldiers were brought to the Yugoslav army press center in downtown Belgrade on the 33rd day of their captivity and turned over to Jackson's delegation of American religious leaders.


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As for Rev Al we'd never know of the Trayvon travesty had Al not took up the cause...

I hear people saying they don't like them but I see no one else willing to put their necks on the line when controversy breaks out..I see no one none of the black activists ...they're all cowards and passivists...Jesse and Al from the old black guard get the fucking job done...their presence may not be liked or appreciated by many but that's because they don't see the big picture...Jesse and Al put pressure on police depts and prosecutors around the country that seem to be hell bent on oppressing minorities...they're work is so needed. If it wasn't them then who would it be...let me answer

NO ONE...those guys have my utmost respect because I understand their higher mission in life and I respect it...all they're doing is keeping "honest people honest" if you know what I mean :toast

[pass1st]

wow..mayweather fans fall for everything Mayweather says. You know pass1st, you can always say

"FUCK IT. JUST FIGHT 50/50 and beat down Pacquiao"

...instead its...

"oh yah..he must be on roids if mayweather doesnt want to fight him...oh yah...he should get more than 50% since manny lost 10 years ago".

For fucks sake man. What happened to just fighting a guy to prove your the best.

It has nothing to do with being a Mayweather, it's just how business is. Mayweather is a bigger draw, as you can see by his PPV earnings. People want to see him beaten badly, he's hated more than Pac is liked.

Some fighters fight because they want to fight, others want money. Mayweather wants money, what's the issue?

Also, quote me talking about Pac on roids please.

[Koolaid_Man]

I don't get it; why would Arum not want to make this fight happen?


Here's your answer Venti

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gp9QE3prHs

[Ashy Larry]

I think another reason why Arum isn't really trying to press this fight is because he's still bitter Floyd left him ........ honestly, I think that's the main one. Floyd beats Manny, he would have fucked Arum not once, but twice.

[midnightpulp]

I have no quarrals with Brother Jesse and the good Rev Al :lol....and if you do then you must really hate Sean Klannity and Rush Limpbaugh...

I hear all these people talking this and that about them..but Jesse went into a battle zone and rescued soldiers...yeah that's right he's done more good than you and your comrades ever did and they were white soldiers too...he brought them home midget and nothing you haters can say about that shit..

Yugoslavia Hands Over 3 Captured U.S. Soldiers

Crisis in Yugoslavia

Balkans: POWs board bus to leave Belgrade for Croatia with the Rev. Jesse Jackson. NATO raids continue, and the pilot of an F-16 jet is rescued after going down over Serbia.


May 02, 1999 (http://articles.latimes.com/1999/may/02)|RICHARD BOUDREAUX and CAROL J. WILLIAMS | TIMES STAFF WRITERS

BELGRADE, Yugoslavia — President Slobodan Milosevic freed three captured U.S. Army soldiers today and sent them homeward with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who had lobbied for their release as a step toward ending 39 days of NATO bombing.
The soldiers were brought to the Yugoslav army press center in downtown Belgrade on the 33rd day of their captivity and turned over to Jackson's delegation of American religious leaders.


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As for Rev Al we'd never know of the Trayvon travesty had Al not took up the cause...

I hear people saying they don't like them but I see no one else willing to put their necks on the line when controversy breaks out..I see no one none of the black activists ...they're all cowards and passivists...Jesse and Al from the old black guard get the fucking job done...their presence may not be liked or appreciated by many but that's because they don't see the big picture...Jesse and Al put pressure on police depts and prosecutors around the country that seem to be hell bent on oppressing minorities...they're work is so needed. If it wasn't them then who would it be...let me answer

NO ONE...those guys have my utmost respect because I understand their higher mission in life and I respect it...all they're doing is keeping "honest people honest" if you know what I mean :toast

Lobbying for their release = "going into a war zone and conducting rescue operations" in your mind? :lol

And those two aren't concerned in the least with fair and equitable treatment for black people. They're concerned with their pocket books, and if there isn't a race angle to exploit, you won't hear a peep out of them (how often do they come out and condemn black-on-black crime?)

[Koolaid_Man]

this is the Motherlode of all articles on Arums twisted ass: :lol

Pacquiao-Mayweather: Seriously, what’s Bob Arum’s problem? A MUST read!



By Marquise Bullock:



Well it’s known now that World Boxing Council (WBC) Welter Weight Champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (41-0-26 KOs) is set to fight at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas, on May 5th 2012. Team Mayweather made the announcement two weeks prior to the Pacquiao-Marquez III fight scheduled for November 12th in Las Vegas. Is it surprising? No, Floyd usually does this before Pacquiao fights for promotional reasons. Because Floyd knows, just like himself, Pacquiao draws a worldwide attraction to the sport. Which by the way…is great for Boxing.



But the announcement didn’t sit to well with Top Ranks CEO Bob Arum. Here’s what Arum had to say about Team Mayweather’s announcement on Mason & Ireland radio ESPN: “Listen, we’re not going to consider anything until after the Marquez fight,” Arum said. “The way they are going about it seems like a bizarre way to go about it. If you want to put it together, you meet, you talk. You don’t just come out and say, ‘The fight is May 5 at the MGM.’ What kind of negotiation is that? So I don’t take what they said seriously.”


“When they want to do some serious negotiating somebody will call me or (Top Rank president) Todd (DuBoef) and we will sit down and talk. It’s obviously a fight we want to make,” Arum said“.
“Olympic testing is OK for this fight, blood and urine, random testing, no problem,” Arum said.” He also went on to say why book the world famous MGM Grand, when Jerry Jones of the Cowboy Stadium in Texas and other major players will put up millions for the fight?


But here’s my thing, as far as random blood testing goes aka OSRBT. Bob Arum, Freddy Roach, and Pacquiao ONLY say they’ll do the testing with no problem, and are not being specific. So pretty much that’s all they say. Mayweather and some of his team isn’t sure or not whether Manny has been using PEDs, and want testing all the way up to the fight. Randomly, not everyday like some people think. So maybe three random times throughout Manny’s training, for a little teaspoon of blood and some urine.


“Pac’s” fans cry out Pacquiao agreed to testing. And he has, verbally. But no specifics. Ah…but what’s this?



Advisor Michael Koncz has all the specifics he said out of his own mouth on two separate occasions that Pacquiao will only test up to 14 or seven days before the fight.


Personally I don’t care about the testing. But I’m not the one fighting, Floyd is and he wants the testing all the way up to the fight. Alex Ariza was on video even saying why do we have to give in to his [Mayweather] demands. As in he doesn’t even want the testing done.


Roger Mayweather said that’s the behind the scenes reason the fight wont happen.


It’s bad enough Floyd doesn’t want to put a dime in Arums pockets, which I believe if it wasn’t for Arum the fight would’ve happened already. Arum in my opinion doesn’t want the fight. I believe it’s not Floyd or Pac, it’s Arum. He knows win or lose his cash cow will step away from the sport, and ride off into the sunset. He’s going to milk that cow dry. I guarantee come May 5th, there will be no Mayweather-Pacquiao fight.




Another thing I find crazy is how in the world can Arum say Mayweather’s announcement is a joke for Pacquiao being just a POSSIBLE opponent on may 5th, when Arum once gave Mayweather like a two week deadline. Really? May 5th is seven months away that’s plenty of time to negotiate. Pacquiao is a wonderful athlete but he needs to speak up about what he wants. What’s your thoughts fight fans?

[pass1st]

I think we can all agree that the Pac-Mayweather fight isn't really a case of ducking, just Boxing politics.

[Koolaid_Man]

Lobbying for their release = "going into a war zone and conducting rescue operations" in your mind? :lol

And those two aren't concerned in the least with fair and equitable treatment for black people. They're concerned with their pocket books, and if there isn't a race angle to exploit, you won't hear a peep out of them (how often do they come out and condemn black-on-black crime?)


It's about majority oppression...that's what holds people back in life...majority oppression not black on black crime...they address it all the time it just gets no press...blame the main stream media...we have to continue the fight mid...remember the Alamo :lmao

[Ashy Larry]

I think we can all agree that the Pac-Mayweather fight isn't really a case of ducking, just Boxing politics.


politics and money ...... Boxing's cash cow has always received a bigger piece of the pie especially from the 1980s on. Tyson, Leonard, Hagler, Holyfield, de la Hoya, now Floyd. Now is he being outrages with some of his demands? Hell yes.

But it doesn't fall squarely and totally upon him. Arum is where many fingers need to point and Manny is actually getting hip to Bob's game. Hopefully his contract isn't for another 5 years.

Cotto saw the light and made 10 million (purse 8, gate and PPV shuld equal 2). More than anything Bob got him.

[Koolaid_Man]

and mid you didn't read carefully enough:

Balkans: POWs board bus to leave Belgrade for Croatia with the Rev. Jesse Jackson. NATO raids continue, and the pilot of an F-16 jet is rescued after going down over Serbia.

Giving them soldiers to Jesse really pissed off the white Republican establishment...It's like Chris Rock said: :Jesse went to Croatia and said, you really want to piss America off? Hand them boys over to me." - lmfao

[Trill Clinton]

Larry in here preaching that gospel.

[midnightpulp]

It's about majority oppression...that's what holds people back in life...majority oppression not black on black crime...they address it all the time it just gets no press...blame the main stream media...we have to continue the fight mid...remember the Alamo :lmao

Then why isn't he in Africa decrying dictators who use their majority advantage to commit genocide against the oppressed?

And :lol at you if you don't think black-on-black crime isn't a form of majority oppression. It typically involves a street gang taking over territory from a weaker counterpart.

[Ashy Larry]

Larry in here preaching that gospel.


Amen.


In order to make this fight happen, get rid of the promoters who are standing in the way. Seems like that's Arum while GBP wants it to go down. Second, kill the sanctioning bodies. WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO are nothing more than pimps. Four, sometimes five champions in every division? Crazy.

And while they're at it, they need to go back to the original eight divisions and leave it at that.

[Koolaid_Man]

Then why isn't he in Africa decrying dictators who use their majority advantage to commit genocide against the oppressed?

And :lol at you if you don't think black-on-black crime isn't a form of majority oppression. It typically involves a street gang taking over territory from a weaker counterpart.

May I bring Kobe into the discussion :lol...because like Kobe I'm about to drop some science....

Seriously mid..this is why I like you...you actually have the balls to challenge Kool...you'd pussy out in real life but online you actually try to bring it even though you get your ass curb-stomped time and again you try...and Kool can respect that...

Now listen up mid this where Kool's worldly experiences trump your small town mentality...

Black on Black crime is a direct result of White or Majority oppression. Why do you think these gangs are formed. They're formed to hedge against the by-product, the negative and destructive force or nature of a poverty stricken environment. This environment mid is a direct result of decades and decades of racism and human, fuck civil, but rather human right abuses of black minorities in particular. So when you see brother Jesse and Rev Al focusing most of their attention on the white man just ask yourself: "If I want to kill the snake what must I cut off first."

Holla at yo boi Kool when u get a chance a nigga always ready :toast

[UZER]

I hate....HATE mayweathers antics. But that means he's doing his job. He loves the villian role. Hearing him talk, I don't think HE believes half the stuff he spits out of his mouth.

And I got mad respect for his skills in the ring. He's 43-0. I think he's picked and chosen who to fight and avoided certain guys, but what fighter on the top doesn't do that.

But I hate the way he fights. When he feels the ropes, he always ducks way down and grabs the guys waist when they come in swinging. I've grown to admire his rolling shoulder defense because its really hard to get through, but I hate when the punches start coming through and he turns his back. The other guy is not gonna punch him in the back of the head so he gets out of it. He pulls and holds guys heads down with one arm while punching with the other on the side the ref can't see. Other fighters use some of these tactics at times during fights, but he uses them the ENTIRE FIGHT!


I'm a Pac fan and want to see the fight happen. May the best man win, but BOB FREAKING ARUM IS IN THE WAY!!!! His excuses are ridiculous.

[TheGreatest23]

Looks like Mayweather admitted he was scared for his health if he fights pacquiao.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/mayweather-finally-admits-cowardice-health-concerns-are-why-he-ducked-pacquiao/

Mayweather Finally Admits Cowardice: Health Concerns Are Why He Ducked Pacquiao


By Scoop Malinowski

Now the truth has finally been confirmed by Floyd Mayweather himself: He’s afraid of getting pounded on like a punching bag by Manny Pacquiao.
Mayweather admitted this to Bob Costas in an NBC show interview about why he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao. “I am in the game to win, not just inside the ring, but outside the ring,” stated Mayweather. “My health is more important than anything.”
Costas then countered with, “Are you implying there is something to fear in Manny Pacquiao?”
Floyd: “I don’t fear no one. If you’re insinuating that I’m a scared fighter, why would you want to watch a scared fighter?”
Earlier in the interview, Mayweather mentioned Muhammad Ali’s health. “With or without Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather is okay. Floyd Mayweather fights for Floyd Mayweather. At the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather has to be happy and comfortable…Look at the Ali situation. Fans pushed him to get into fights at the end of his career that he didn’t want to get in…If Ali could trade it all in for his health, he would.”
(Note: Let me correct Floyd. Ali was not forced by fans to get in the ring with Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes or Trevor Berbick. Money, pride and a fearless belief in his skills were the motivation for Ali to take those fights.)
Floyd also said: “One shot can end your whole career. Boxing is a very deadly sport.”
Costas said Floyd has to fight Pacquiao, to see who is the best, to give the fans what they want and to pump up the sport with a much-needed big, exciting, Super Bowl event: “I come first. Self preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”
There you go: “Self preservation.” So the reasons Mayweather gave us for two years of ducking and dodging Pacquiao – drug tests, fake retirements, Manny has to leave Arum and be his own boss, no 50-50 split, he doesn’t need Manny, it’s all Bob Arum’s fault, etc. – were indeed mere smokescreens, bluffs and lies. Cleverly but dishonestly used to cover up the real secret truth – Mayweather fears for his health because he knows Pacquiao would simply beat the hell out of him.

Mayweather knows his skills that pay the bills wouldn’t work against Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather does not have the confidence that his all-time great defensive skills will be able to control and subdue Pacquiao and maintain his unbeaten record and his good health, against the relentless assualts that Manny Pacquiao would unleash on him.

This surprising admission by Mayweather now puts heavy pressure on HBO. The sport of boxing is supposed to be about the best gladiators testing their courage and talents against the best of the best. Now HBO must fully recognize, if they paid attention to what Floyd Mayweather told NBC’s Bob Costas, that Floyd Mayweather is a manufactured fraud, a coward who is unworthy of being marketed and promoted as a premium sports attraction. (Vitali Klitschko said he would rather die than give Dereck Chisora anything.) Mayweather is a pretender who would be better suited for the world of professional wrestling.

It would be counterproductive for the most powerful television network in American boxing to promote and market, with maximum resources, a cowardly fraud who doesn’t care about the sport or it’s fans, only about perserving his own career with safe, low-risk, set up opponents.
“I’m in a great position, a very lucrative position,” Mayweather told Costas, who was pressuring him to accept the 50-50 split with Pacquiao. “I’m NOT giving up the split. I can’t. I can’t afford to.”
Of course he can’t and won’t. Mayweather and his advisor Al Haymon manipulate HBO and the public like subordinates. With HBO’s promotional machine at their beck and call, Mayweather and Haymon think they can keep on going for as long as they wish, making easy money safe “fights” via their stooges at HBO and most of the American media.
Shouldn’t the vast resources of HBO be better served to be used to invest in true, real, fearless champions like the Klitschkos, Bute, Ward, Martinez, Doniare, Rigondeaux, Proksa, Dawson, Bradley, Peterson, etc. in order to retain the credibility and honor of the noble sport? Shouldn’t HBO be expected to deliver to sports fans the best of the best versus the best, not rewarding cowardly frauds who are afraid of getting beaten up to the point of losing their health, while trumpeting them as heroic champions?
Surely, Thomas Hauser will be able to consult HBO to wake up and adhere to this simple basic premise won’t he? Or are the powers that be at HBO so wrapped around the fingers of Haymon and Mayweather that the Mayweather fraud show will go on for another five or ten years?
If HBO continues to knowingly and willingly support a cowardly fraud like Mayweather, how many other outrageous errors in judgement can we expect to see down the road by the powers that be at HBO and what will be the inevitable consequences on our great sport which has so diminished and declined in popularity and credibility over the last 10-15 years?
Don’t forget, Mayweather already told us that he doesn’t love boxing anymore like he used to because “it’s not real anymore.”
With that in mind, can we really expect Mayweather vs. Cotto to be fought at full intensity on May 5, since Mayweather said his “self preservation” is top priority? If Mayweather is, as he says, so concerned about his health, which is “more important than anything”, how do we know for sure he and Cotto won’t make one of those Teddy Atlas silent agreements? Like Floyd told us at Fight hype, “Boxing isn’t real anymore.”
I mean, how much longer can this great deception be allowed to contaminate the sport of boxing?
And you have to wonder if, after this Mayweather revelation to Costas, the powers that be at HBO continue to permit Mayweather’s advisor Al Haymon to use and manipulate the network like his own personal broadcasting service, like he has done for the last five years with Mayweather, Broner, Arreola, Williams, Jacobs, Berto, Mitchell, etc. How many more super fights will be canceled because one fighter and his advisor fear coming out on the loser’s end, which would destroy their “great position” and leverage?
We know now Floyd Mayeather is afraid for his health and well being and that’s why he won’t ever fight Manny Pacquiao. He told this to Bob Costas on national TV. Now the chips must fall where they may.

[Koolaid_Man]

Looks like Mayweather admitted he was scared for his health if he fights pacquiao.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/mayweather-finally-admits-cowardice-health-concerns-are-why-he-ducked-pacquiao/

Mayweather Finally Admits Cowardice: Health Concerns Are Why He Ducked Pacquiao


By Scoop Malinowski

Now the truth has finally been confirmed by Floyd Mayweather himself: He’s afraid of getting pounded on like a punching bag by Manny Pacquiao.
Mayweather admitted this to Bob Costas in an NBC show interview about why he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao. “I am in the game to win, not just inside the ring, but outside the ring,” stated Mayweather. “My health is more important than anything.”
Costas then countered with, “Are you implying there is something to fear in Manny Pacquiao?”
Floyd: “I don’t fear no one. If you’re insinuating that I’m a scared fighter, why would you want to watch a scared fighter?”
Earlier in the interview, Mayweather mentioned Muhammad Ali’s health. “With or without Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather is okay. Floyd Mayweather fights for Floyd Mayweather. At the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather has to be happy and comfortable…Look at the Ali situation. Fans pushed him to get into fights at the end of his career that he didn’t want to get in…If Ali could trade it all in for his health, he would.”
(Note: Let me correct Floyd. Ali was not forced by fans to get in the ring with Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes or Trevor Berbick. Money, pride and a fearless belief in his skills were the motivation for Ali to take those fights.)
Floyd also said: “One shot can end your whole career. Boxing is a very deadly sport.”
Costas said Floyd has to fight Pacquiao, to see who is the best, to give the fans what they want and to pump up the sport with a much-needed big, exciting, Super Bowl event: “I come first. Self preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”
There you go: “Self preservation.” So the reasons Mayweather gave us for two years of ducking and dodging Pacquiao – drug tests, fake retirements, Manny has to leave Arum and be his own boss, no 50-50 split, he doesn’t need Manny, it’s all Bob Arum’s fault, etc. – were indeed mere smokescreens, bluffs and lies. Cleverly but dishonestly used to cover up the real secret truth – Mayweather fears for his health because he knows Pacquiao would simply beat the hell out of him.

Mayweather knows his skills that pay the bills wouldn’t work against Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather does not have the confidence that his all-time great defensive skills will be able to control and subdue Pacquiao and maintain his unbeaten record and his good health, against the relentless assualts that Manny Pacquiao would unleash on him.

This surprising admission by Mayweather now puts heavy pressure on HBO. The sport of boxing is supposed to be about the best gladiators testing their courage and talents against the best of the best. Now HBO must fully recognize, if they paid attention to what Floyd Mayweather told NBC’s Bob Costas, that Floyd Mayweather is a manufactured fraud, a coward who is unworthy of being marketed and promoted as a premium sports attraction. (Vitali Klitschko said he would rather die than give Dereck Chisora anything.) Mayweather is a pretender who would be better suited for the world of professional wrestling.

It would be counterproductive for the most powerful television network in American boxing to promote and market, with maximum resources, a cowardly fraud who doesn’t care about the sport or it’s fans, only about perserving his own career with safe, low-risk, set up opponents.
“I’m in a great position, a very lucrative position,” Mayweather told Costas, who was pressuring him to accept the 50-50 split with Pacquiao. “I’m NOT giving up the split. I can’t. I can’t afford to.”
Of course he can’t and won’t. Mayweather and his advisor Al Haymon manipulate HBO and the public like subordinates. With HBO’s promotional machine at their beck and call, Mayweather and Haymon think they can keep on going for as long as they wish, making easy money safe “fights” via their stooges at HBO and most of the American media.
Shouldn’t the vast resources of HBO be better served to be used to invest in true, real, fearless champions like the Klitschkos, Bute, Ward, Martinez, Doniare, Rigondeaux, Proksa, Dawson, Bradley, Peterson, etc. in order to retain the credibility and honor of the noble sport? Shouldn’t HBO be expected to deliver to sports fans the best of the best versus the best, not rewarding cowardly frauds who are afraid of getting beaten up to the point of losing their health, while trumpeting them as heroic champions?
Surely, Thomas Hauser will be able to consult HBO to wake up and adhere to this simple basic premise won’t he? Or are the powers that be at HBO so wrapped around the fingers of Haymon and Mayweather that the Mayweather fraud show will go on for another five or ten years?
If HBO continues to knowingly and willingly support a cowardly fraud like Mayweather, how many other outrageous errors in judgement can we expect to see down the road by the powers that be at HBO and what will be the inevitable consequences on our great sport which has so diminished and declined in popularity and credibility over the last 10-15 years?
Don’t forget, Mayweather already told us that he doesn’t love boxing anymore like he used to because “it’s not real anymore.”
With that in mind, can we really expect Mayweather vs. Cotto to be fought at full intensity on May 5, since Mayweather said his “self preservation” is top priority? If Mayweather is, as he says, so concerned about his health, which is “more important than anything”, how do we know for sure he and Cotto won’t make one of those Teddy Atlas silent agreements? Like Floyd told us at Fight hype, “Boxing isn’t real anymore.”
I mean, how much longer can this great deception be allowed to contaminate the sport of boxing?
And you have to wonder if, after this Mayweather revelation to Costas, the powers that be at HBO continue to permit Mayweather’s advisor Al Haymon to use and manipulate the network like his own personal broadcasting service, like he has done for the last five years with Mayweather, Broner, Arreola, Williams, Jacobs, Berto, Mitchell, etc. How many more super fights will be canceled because one fighter and his advisor fear coming out on the loser’s end, which would destroy their “great position” and leverage?
We know now Floyd Mayeather is afraid for his health and well being and that’s why he won’t ever fight Manny Pacquiao. He told this to Bob Costas on national TV. Now the chips must fall where they may.

:lol. You've been stewing in anger all night over those stories I posted huh? :lmao

I'd be concerned for my health as well if the guy I was scheduled to fight was roided up out of his mind. It's like fighting a guy high on PCP...:lmao

[cheguevara]

:lmao what a fucking pussy

[TheNextGen]

:lol. You've been stewing in anger all night over those stories I posted huh? :lmao

I'd be concerned for my health as well if the guy I was scheduled to fight was roided up out of his mind. It's like fighting a guy high on PCP...:lmao

Your stories are just opinions and conspiracies. The story TheGreatest posted was straight from Floyd's mouth.

But hey...if Floyd needs to preserve himself, ducking Pacquiao is the smart thing to do.

[TheNextGen]

quick question Kool:

Lets say that Pacquaio was on roids for all those dominating fights, would Mayweather beat a roided Pacquiao?

[Ashy Larry]

quick question Kool:

Lets say that Pacquaio was on roids for all those dominating fights, would Mayweather beat a roided Pacquiao?


honestly, I think it would be an easy fight for Floyd.

He's bigger. He's just as fast if not faster. He's the better boxer. He's the better defensive fighter. And if Marquez, who is a B+ counter puncher, won more rounds in his three battles with Manny, what would happened if Manny got in there with the best defensive fighter in our era and an A+ counter puncher?

I think it would be an easy fight for Floyd. The main won who doesn't want that fight is Uncle Bob Arum ......

[TheMACHINE]

honestly, I think it would be an easy fight for Floyd.

He's bigger. He's just as fast if not faster. He's the better boxer. He's the better defensive fighter. And if Marquez, who is a B+ counter puncher, won more rounds in his three battles with Manny, what would happened if Manny got in there with the best defensive fighter in our era and an A+ counter puncher?

I think it would be an easy fight for Floyd. The main won who doesn't want that fight is Uncle Bob Arum ......

is uncle bob the one whos been asking for testing if its such an "easy fight"?

is uncle bob the one who wants 60% for Manny?

[TheMACHINE]

Looks like Mayweather admitted he was scared for his health if he fights pacquiao.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/mayweather-finally-admits-cowardice-health-concerns-are-why-he-ducked-pacquiao/

Mayweather Finally Admits Cowardice: Health Concerns Are Why He Ducked Pacquiao


By Scoop Malinowski

Now the truth has finally been confirmed by Floyd Mayweather himself: He’s afraid of getting pounded on like a punching bag by Manny Pacquiao.
Mayweather admitted this to Bob Costas in an NBC show interview about why he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao. “I am in the game to win, not just inside the ring, but outside the ring,” stated Mayweather. “My health is more important than anything.”
Costas then countered with, “Are you implying there is something to fear in Manny Pacquiao?”
Floyd: “I don’t fear no one. If you’re insinuating that I’m a scared fighter, why would you want to watch a scared fighter?”
Earlier in the interview, Mayweather mentioned Muhammad Ali’s health. “With or without Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather is okay. Floyd Mayweather fights for Floyd Mayweather. At the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather has to be happy and comfortable…Look at the Ali situation. Fans pushed him to get into fights at the end of his career that he didn’t want to get in…If Ali could trade it all in for his health, he would.”
(Note: Let me correct Floyd. Ali was not forced by fans to get in the ring with Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes or Trevor Berbick. Money, pride and a fearless belief in his skills were the motivation for Ali to take those fights.)
Floyd also said: “One shot can end your whole career. Boxing is a very deadly sport.”
Costas said Floyd has to fight Pacquiao, to see who is the best, to give the fans what they want and to pump up the sport with a much-needed big, exciting, Super Bowl event: “I come first. Self preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”
There you go: “Self preservation.” So the reasons Mayweather gave us for two years of ducking and dodging Pacquiao – drug tests, fake retirements, Manny has to leave Arum and be his own boss, no 50-50 split, he doesn’t need Manny, it’s all Bob Arum’s fault, etc. – were indeed mere smokescreens, bluffs and lies. Cleverly but dishonestly used to cover up the real secret truth – Mayweather fears for his health because he knows Pacquiao would simply beat the hell out of him.

Mayweather knows his skills that pay the bills wouldn’t work against Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather does not have the confidence that his all-time great defensive skills will be able to control and subdue Pacquiao and maintain his unbeaten record and his good health, against the relentless assualts that Manny Pacquiao would unleash on him.

This surprising admission by Mayweather now puts heavy pressure on HBO. The sport of boxing is supposed to be about the best gladiators testing their courage and talents against the best of the best. Now HBO must fully recognize, if they paid attention to what Floyd Mayweather told NBC’s Bob Costas, that Floyd Mayweather is a manufactured fraud, a coward who is unworthy of being marketed and promoted as a premium sports attraction. (Vitali Klitschko said he would rather die than give Dereck Chisora anything.) Mayweather is a pretender who would be better suited for the world of professional wrestling.

It would be counterproductive for the most powerful television network in American boxing to promote and market, with maximum resources, a cowardly fraud who doesn’t care about the sport or it’s fans, only about perserving his own career with safe, low-risk, set up opponents.
“I’m in a great position, a very lucrative position,” Mayweather told Costas, who was pressuring him to accept the 50-50 split with Pacquiao. “I’m NOT giving up the split. I can’t. I can’t afford to.”
Of course he can’t and won’t. Mayweather and his advisor Al Haymon manipulate HBO and the public like subordinates. With HBO’s promotional machine at their beck and call, Mayweather and Haymon think they can keep on going for as long as they wish, making easy money safe “fights” via their stooges at HBO and most of the American media.
Shouldn’t the vast resources of HBO be better served to be used to invest in true, real, fearless champions like the Klitschkos, Bute, Ward, Martinez, Doniare, Rigondeaux, Proksa, Dawson, Bradley, Peterson, etc. in order to retain the credibility and honor of the noble sport? Shouldn’t HBO be expected to deliver to sports fans the best of the best versus the best, not rewarding cowardly frauds who are afraid of getting beaten up to the point of losing their health, while trumpeting them as heroic champions?
Surely, Thomas Hauser will be able to consult HBO to wake up and adhere to this simple basic premise won’t he? Or are the powers that be at HBO so wrapped around the fingers of Haymon and Mayweather that the Mayweather fraud show will go on for another five or ten years?
If HBO continues to knowingly and willingly support a cowardly fraud like Mayweather, how many other outrageous errors in judgement can we expect to see down the road by the powers that be at HBO and what will be the inevitable consequences on our great sport which has so diminished and declined in popularity and credibility over the last 10-15 years?
Don’t forget, Mayweather already told us that he doesn’t love boxing anymore like he used to because “it’s not real anymore.”
With that in mind, can we really expect Mayweather vs. Cotto to be fought at full intensity on May 5, since Mayweather said his “self preservation” is top priority? If Mayweather is, as he says, so concerned about his health, which is “more important than anything”, how do we know for sure he and Cotto won’t make one of those Teddy Atlas silent agreements? Like Floyd told us at Fight hype, “Boxing isn’t real anymore.”
I mean, how much longer can this great deception be allowed to contaminate the sport of boxing?
And you have to wonder if, after this Mayweather revelation to Costas, the powers that be at HBO continue to permit Mayweather’s advisor Al Haymon to use and manipulate the network like his own personal broadcasting service, like he has done for the last five years with Mayweather, Broner, Arreola, Williams, Jacobs, Berto, Mitchell, etc. How many more super fights will be canceled because one fighter and his advisor fear coming out on the loser’s end, which would destroy their “great position” and leverage?
We know now Floyd Mayeather is afraid for his health and well being and that’s why he won’t ever fight Manny Pacquiao. He told this to Bob Costas on national TV. Now the chips must fall where they may.

wow...what a pussy.

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Looks like Mayweather admitted he was scared for his health if he fights pacquiao.

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/mayweather-finally-admits-cowardice-health-concerns-are-why-he-ducked-pacquiao/

Mayweather Finally Admits Cowardice: Health Concerns Are Why He Ducked Pacquiao


By Scoop Malinowski

Now the truth has finally been confirmed by Floyd Mayweather himself: He’s afraid of getting pounded on like a punching bag by Manny Pacquiao.
Mayweather admitted this to Bob Costas in an NBC show interview about why he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao. “I am in the game to win, not just inside the ring, but outside the ring,” stated Mayweather. “My health is more important than anything.”
Costas then countered with, “Are you implying there is something to fear in Manny Pacquiao?”
Floyd: “I don’t fear no one. If you’re insinuating that I’m a scared fighter, why would you want to watch a scared fighter?”
Earlier in the interview, Mayweather mentioned Muhammad Ali’s health. “With or without Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather is okay. Floyd Mayweather fights for Floyd Mayweather. At the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather has to be happy and comfortable…Look at the Ali situation. Fans pushed him to get into fights at the end of his career that he didn’t want to get in…If Ali could trade it all in for his health, he would.”
(Note: Let me correct Floyd. Ali was not forced by fans to get in the ring with Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Ken Norton, Larry Holmes or Trevor Berbick. Money, pride and a fearless belief in his skills were the motivation for Ali to take those fights.)
Floyd also said: “One shot can end your whole career. Boxing is a very deadly sport.”
Costas said Floyd has to fight Pacquiao, to see who is the best, to give the fans what they want and to pump up the sport with a much-needed big, exciting, Super Bowl event: “I come first. Self preservation. I gotta worry about my family. If the fight don’t happen, so be it.”
There you go: “Self preservation.” So the reasons Mayweather gave us for two years of ducking and dodging Pacquiao – drug tests, fake retirements, Manny has to leave Arum and be his own boss, no 50-50 split, he doesn’t need Manny, it’s all Bob Arum’s fault, etc. – were indeed mere smokescreens, bluffs and lies. Cleverly but dishonestly used to cover up the real secret truth – Mayweather fears for his health because he knows Pacquiao would simply beat the hell out of him.

Mayweather knows his skills that pay the bills wouldn’t work against Manny Pacquiao. Mayweather does not have the confidence that his all-time great defensive skills will be able to control and subdue Pacquiao and maintain his unbeaten record and his good health, against the relentless assualts that Manny Pacquiao would unleash on him.

This surprising admission by Mayweather now puts heavy pressure on HBO. The sport of boxing is supposed to be about the best gladiators testing their courage and talents against the best of the best. Now HBO must fully recognize, if they paid attention to what Floyd Mayweather told NBC’s Bob Costas, that Floyd Mayweather is a manufactured fraud, a coward who is unworthy of being marketed and promoted as a premium sports attraction. (Vitali Klitschko said he would rather die than give Dereck Chisora anything.) Mayweather is a pretender who would be better suited for the world of professional wrestling.

It would be counterproductive for the most powerful television network in American boxing to promote and market, with maximum resources, a cowardly fraud who doesn’t care about the sport or it’s fans, only about perserving his own career with safe, low-risk, set up opponents.
“I’m in a great position, a very lucrative position,” Mayweather told Costas, who was pressuring him to accept the 50-50 split with Pacquiao. “I’m NOT giving up the split. I can’t. I can’t afford to.”
Of course he can’t and won’t. Mayweather and his advisor Al Haymon manipulate HBO and the public like subordinates. With HBO’s promotional machine at their beck and call, Mayweather and Haymon think they can keep on going for as long as they wish, making easy money safe “fights” via their stooges at HBO and most of the American media.
Shouldn’t the vast resources of HBO be better served to be used to invest in true, real, fearless champions like the Klitschkos, Bute, Ward, Martinez, Doniare, Rigondeaux, Proksa, Dawson, Bradley, Peterson, etc. in order to retain the credibility and honor of the noble sport? Shouldn’t HBO be expected to deliver to sports fans the best of the best versus the best, not rewarding cowardly frauds who are afraid of getting beaten up to the point of losing their health, while trumpeting them as heroic champions?
Surely, Thomas Hauser will be able to consult HBO to wake up and adhere to this simple basic premise won’t he? Or are the powers that be at HBO so wrapped around the fingers of Haymon and Mayweather that the Mayweather fraud show will go on for another five or ten years?
If HBO continues to knowingly and willingly support a cowardly fraud like Mayweather, how many other outrageous errors in judgement can we expect to see down the road by the powers that be at HBO and what will be the inevitable consequences on our great sport which has so diminished and declined in popularity and credibility over the last 10-15 years?
Don’t forget, Mayweather already told us that he doesn’t love boxing anymore like he used to because “it’s not real anymore.”
With that in mind, can we really expect Mayweather vs. Cotto to be fought at full intensity on May 5, since Mayweather said his “self preservation” is top priority? If Mayweather is, as he says, so concerned about his health, which is “more important than anything”, how do we know for sure he and Cotto won’t make one of those Teddy Atlas silent agreements? Like Floyd told us at Fight hype, “Boxing isn’t real anymore.”
I mean, how much longer can this great deception be allowed to contaminate the sport of boxing?
And you have to wonder if, after this Mayweather revelation to Costas, the powers that be at HBO continue to permit Mayweather’s advisor Al Haymon to use and manipulate the network like his own personal broadcasting service, like he has done for the last five years with Mayweather, Broner, Arreola, Williams, Jacobs, Berto, Mitchell, etc. How many more super fights will be canceled because one fighter and his advisor fear coming out on the loser’s end, which would destroy their “great position” and leverage?
We know now Floyd Mayeather is afraid for his health and well being and that’s why he won’t ever fight Manny Pacquiao. He told this to Bob Costas on national TV. Now the chips must fall where they may.

That article is a nice way to rearange what he said out of context, did you happen to see the original interview? Mayweather basically said he won't let the fans pressure him into fighting. You also seem to have overlooked the part saying he's not afraid of fighting Pacquiao.

I don't see why he would be afraid anyways, Marquez is a better boxer.:lol

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Your stories are just opinions and conspiracies. The story TheGreatest posted was straight from Floyd's mouth and rearranged to skew what he was trying to say.

But hey...if Floyd needs to preserve himself, ducking Pacquiao is the smart thing to do.

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[TheNextGen]

lol scared of small asian catfish look alike

[Koolaid_Man]

quick question Kool:

Lets say that Pacquaio was on roids for all those dominating fights, would Mayweather beat a roided Pacquiao?


let me be like a jew and answer a quick question with a quick question...does Barry Bonds deserve the home run record?

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lol scared of small asian catfish look alike

:lolshit against technical fighters

[TheMACHINE]

let me be like a jew and answer a quick question with a quick question...does Barry Bonds deserve the home run record?

so im safe to assume that mayweather doesnt think he can beat the guy he see's fighting in the ring the past 4 years?

[TheMACHINE]

:lolshit against technical fighter

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Has he ever dominated a technical fighter worth mentioning? Marquez is decent and both wins were controversial decisions.

[Koolaid_Man]

so im safe to assume that mayweather doesnt think he can beat the guy he see's fighting in the ring the past 4 years?


Sure he can...steriods is simply the difference between Floyd beating him down vs completely fucking up his world. :lol

Go back and watch the Ali vs Floyd Patterson fight....same thing would happy to Pacman...every time Floyd Patterson would be about to fall to the floor Ali would stop punching and pick him back up until Floyd called him by his new Muslim name - Muhammad Ali :lol

[TheMACHINE]

Has he ever dominated a technical fighter worth mentioning? Marquez is decent and both wins were controversial decisions.

your point doesnt change the fact that i still FIFY.

[TheMACHINE]

Sure he can...steriods is simply the difference between Floyd beating him down vs completely fucking up his world. :lol

:lol

ahhh ok...cool... its nice that you admit that floyd is scared of fighting who he see's on pay per view. Cool beans.