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The ADMIRAL 50
05-06-2012, 02:05 PM
I do.

I'm not talking about the coaching jobs done this year, I'm talking about all things considered who is the best coach in the league. I think it's Pop hands down.

This issue came to mind when I saw some Pop bashing in a different thread, which happens too often here on ST. Sure we can disagree with his management of Splitter, or nitpick his decisions on when to rest guys, but IMO if you don't think he's tops in the league you're crazy.

FWIW, I did a little thinking over coaches with championship meddle and had an interesting revelation. Check out this stat I realized about current NBA head coaches:


Championships
Pop:4
All other NBA coaches combined: 2*


*Carlisle and Doc with one apiece

smaka
05-06-2012, 02:31 PM
He is one of the greatest of all time imo.

spursfan1000
05-06-2012, 02:43 PM
no doubt about it

Spursfan092120
05-06-2012, 02:50 PM
Yes...Fuck Fabbs.

DMC
05-06-2012, 02:57 PM
Based on my limited knowledge of coaching and anything to do with being inside an NBA franchise, my ignorance of other teams' personnel struggles and front office issues, histories of each coach and what support mechanisms they have in place in their respective franchises, and the fact that I am a Spurs fan, sure.

vander
05-06-2012, 03:04 PM
he probably is currently, but no other coach had Tim Duncan, and self-centered NBA players have derailed a lot of promising coaching careers, so the competition isn't what it could have been/should be

dunkman
05-06-2012, 03:13 PM
I voted yes, since Phil Jax isn't coaching anymore. While Pop can achieve more than Phil with less talent, Phil is more consistent. 3 threepeats and 1 back-to-back, so its hard to say Pop is better tbh fwiw imo. The Spurs could have repeated in 06. The difference isn't that big between the two and Pop's still coaching, its not set in stone.

YoMamaIsCallin
05-06-2012, 03:33 PM
As opposed to whom?

Seriously.

stéphane
05-06-2012, 03:57 PM
No more competition w/o Sloan and Jackson.

ElNono
05-06-2012, 04:05 PM
Of those currently working, probably. I personally think Phil Jackson was better and Larry Brown/Sloan just as good if you are only talking about coaching.

Poolboy5623
05-06-2012, 05:30 PM
He just won coach of the year by a wide margin...is the question even necessary??? Only the haters would say no currently. ..unless your talking "all-time".. I would say no to that but top 5-10 for sure.

hooperflash
05-06-2012, 05:57 PM
No more competition w/o Sloan and Jackson.

Those two are so overrated IMO :rolleyes

thOOdee
05-06-2012, 06:26 PM
i would be singing another song if splitter was just rotting on the bench still.

therealtruth
05-06-2012, 06:48 PM
I voted yes, since Phil Jax isn't coaching anymore. While Pop can achieve more than Phil with less talent, Phil is more consistent. 3 threepeats and 1 back-to-back, so its hard to say Pop is better tbh fwiw imo. The Spurs could have repeated in 06. The difference isn't that big between the two and Pop's still coaching, its not set in stone.

I agree PJ was able to coach with the expectations. Pop gets uneasy in the spotlight.

pgardn
05-06-2012, 06:58 PM
Sloan...

Because he lasted forever. Then put Don Nelson on the list.


This Spurs team may not win the whole thing but we are by far the most pleasurable team to watch offensively. There is no team that moves the ball around as well as we do. Because this is such a different team than we have in the past I dont think its appreciated. We have got to watch some beautiful offensive basketball, without the screaming chest-fist dunking.

Its great stuff.

YoMamaIsCallin
05-06-2012, 07:14 PM
I assumed "best coach in the NBA" meant "in the NBA now".

Best ever? Tough to argue against Auerbach.

pgardn
05-06-2012, 07:37 PM
I assumed "best coach in the NBA" meant "in the NBA now".

Best ever? Tough to argue against Auerbach.

This is where it gets tough. He was a pioneer, but when there are only 8-9 teams in the entire league, its a bit easier to win the whole thing.

Dex
05-06-2012, 07:40 PM
Currently? Yes.

More accolades and titles than any other active coach. Pioneered a system that has become the model of several franchises. Brought up several other individuals who have become GMs or coaches for other teams. Longest tenured coach in the major American sports. Pretty easy decision, tbh.

Of all time...I think you still have to give the nod to Auerbach, but it's still a good conversation. When it comes down to Phil Jackson and Pop, that is where things become interesting. Phil Jackson had one good system, but always came into a decent situation, had the advantage of being a major market, and was lucky to have two or three of the best players of all time. Pop also had two legendary players (Duncan and Robinson), but has had more consistent success, made his teams perennial contenders, manages to piece together winning squads out of table scraps, and has adjusted his philosophies over the years. He's put together inside teams, and outside teams. He's put together great defensive squads, and offensive juggernauts. Basically, he's done more with less than Phil Jackson....but it's hard to argue with Jackson's rings.

As a Spurs fan, I put Pop and Jackson about at the same level. Maybe that's biased, but I think it's definitely debatable to say the least.