Bible topic of the day: Hell

[Blake]

Serious question:

Why did God create hell?

[clambake]

so that the DMV and jury duty don't seem so bad.

[clambake]

it was created to scare the shit outta ya.

[Reck]

What makes you so sure he was the one who created it?

It is easier to believe that it was Satan's doing.

Why would God cast the devil out of heaven then make a home for him to reside?

I'm not a religious type or pretend to know alot about the bible but it seems to me it would be counter productive to throw someone out of your kingdom and at the same time making him his own. Thoughts?

[IWantsACuatro]

To have a place for you to continue typing up retarded threads.

[z0sa]

IIRRC (if i remember Revelations correctly), hell doesn't even exist right now. Everyone will come back to life and have a second chance. Only at the very end of the universe does the "lake of fire" swallow you up if you're still a non believer. Your average fire and brimstone preacher doesn't want you to think that but then again, he needs to pay his cadillac and kids' private education off.

[Technique]

So you could donate money to the church in hopes of not going to hell.

[clambake]

god is satan.

satan is god.

[Blake]

so that the DMV and jury duty don't seem so bad.

Someone told me recently that in Texas, we can no longer renew our drivers license online. :depressed

[leemajors]

Someone told me recently that in Texas, we can no longer renew our drivers license online. :depressed

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/dlfork.aspx?action=renew

[baseline bum]

Dope song

vUp_xDqwa1I

[Blake]

What makes you so sure he was the one who created it?

It is easier to believe that it was Satan's doing.

Why would God cast the devil out of heaven then make a home for him to reside?

I'm not a religious type or pretend to know alot about the bible but it seems to me it would be counter productive to throw someone out of your kingdom and at the same time making him his own. Thoughts?

K, why does God allow hell to exist in the now or in the future?

[Blake]

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/DriverLicense/dlfork.aspx?action=renew

So it's every other renewal now we have to go to the dmv....

That's still too often for me.

[IWantsACuatro]

Probably for Pit-bulls

[Blake]

IIRRC (if i remember Revelations correctly), hell doesn't even exist right now. Everyone will come back to life and have a second chance. Only at the very end of the universe does the "lake of fire" swallow you up if you're still a non believer. Your average fire and brimstone preacher doesn't want you to think that but then again, he needs to pay his cadillac and kids' private education off.

Well that's thoughtful of god to wait until after Revelations to fry the non believer.

[Reck]

K, why does God allow hell to exist in the now or in the future?

I'll answer your question with one of my own..

Why does God allow evil to corrupt the human race?

I believe in God, dont get me wrong but he/she sure allows alot of bad stuff to happen to good people.

[Blake]

Probably for Pit-bulls

as long as I can start these threads and read timvp's grades after the games, I'm ok with getting mauled on a weekly basis

[Blake]

I'll answer your question with one of my own..

Why does God allow evil to corrupt the human race?

I believe in God, dont get me wrong but he/she sure allows alot of bad stuff to happen to good people.

I think those questions run down the same track.

My answer to both would be that God is a jackass, but I'm open to hearing a logical explanation as to how he's not and why hell is necessary.

[Reck]

I think those questions run down the same track.

My answer to both would be that God is a jackass, but I'm open to hearing a logical explanation as to how he's not and why hell is necessary.

It depends on who you ask.

The Jehovah's Witness dont believe in hell. They think that when you die you dont go to hell nor heaven. You just stop existing and only those that follow the Jehovah's witness ways only get to live in paradise happily ever after.

[Blake]

It depends on who you ask.

The Jehovah's Witness dont believe in hell. They think that when you die you dont go to hell nor heaven. You just stop existing and only those that follow the Jehovah's witness ways only get to live in paradise happily ever after.

Hell is a real place according to the Bible.

[Frenzy]

So people who don't believe in god can chill somewhere.

[Blake]

So people who don't believe in god can chill somewhere.

Ah, I see what you did there



























ok, that's a lie....I really don't see what you are doing there.

[JoeChalupa]

Thou shalt not question God.

[clambake]

Thou shalt not question God.

how can we?

[Reck]

Hell is a real place according to the Bible.

Not the Jehovahs Witness ones.

[CuckingFunt]

Dope song

vUp_xDqwa1I

Dope band, tbh.

[Blake]

Thou shalt not question God.

I hope you made that up on your own.

If your priest told you that, you are even more gullible than I thought.

[Blake]

Not the Jehovahs Witness ones.

For thread purpose, I'd like to stick to the Old or New Testaments originally passed out by King James.

[leemajors]

Hell is a real place according to the Bible.

Hell only pops up in the New Testament. Gehenna is referenced in the old, but that is not Hell. Similar to Purgatory more than anything else.

[Blake]

Hell only pops up in the New Testament. Gehenna is referenced in the old, but that is not Hell. Similar to Purgatory more than anything else.

Sheol was translated by King James as hell in at least one place in the OT off the top of my head.

Bad translation imo, but I don't know any church that will criticize it.

[leemajors]

Sheol was translated by King James as hell in at least one place in the OT off the top of my head.

Bad translation imo, but I don't know any church that will criticize it.

They twisted it to suit their purposes for sure. Hard to guilt people into silly beliefs if there isn't something terrible in store for them if they don't.

[z0sa]

Well that's thoughtful of god to wait until after Revelations to fry the non believer.

You are supposedly given physical proof of god and Jesus' existence during the 1000 years of peace, after the 7 years of trials and tribulations, etc.

It's all bullshit but it's funny how Christians ignore their own fundamental beliefs so they can feel better about their religion.

[Big Empty]

What makes you so sure he was the one who created it?

It is easier to believe that it was Satan's doing.

Why would God cast the devil out of heaven then make a home for him to reside?

I'm not a religious type or pretend to know alot about the bible but it seems to me it would be counter productive to throw someone out of your kingdom and at the same time making him his own. Thoughts?
For the same reason the states/government create prison. The convicted didnt build a prison.

[DMC]

Hell was created for family reunions.

[silverblk mystix]

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[silverblk mystix]

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[Happy Devil]

Great topic!

[Blake]

Happy Devil sock puppet:

3/10

[vy65]

During his weekly address to the general audience of 8,500 people at the Vatican on July 28, 1999, Pope John Paul II rejected the reality of a physical, literal hell as a place of eternal fire and torment. Rather, the pope said hell is separation, even in this life, from the joyful communion with God. According to an official Vatican transcript of the pope's speech, Pope John Paul II noted that the Scriptural references to hell and the images portrayed by Scripture are only symbolic and figurative of "the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. " He added, "Rather than a physical place, hell is the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy." He said hell is "a condition resulting from attitudes and actions which people adopt in this life." Concerning the concept of eternal damnation, the pope said, "Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person, and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever." The pope also added, "The thought of hell and even less the improper use of biblical images must not create anxiety or despair." Rather, he stated, it is a reminder of the freedom found in Christ.

http://www.ovrlnd.com/Cults/poprejectshell.html

lol blake

[Blake]

During his weekly address to the general audience of 8,500 people at the Vatican on July 28, 1999, Pope John Paul II rejected the reality of a physical, literal hell as a place of eternal fire and torment. Rather, the pope said hell is separation, even in this life, from the joyful communion with God. According to an official Vatican transcript of the pope's speech, Pope John Paul II noted that the Scriptural references to hell and the images portrayed by Scripture are only symbolic and figurative of "the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. " He added, "Rather than a physical place, hell is the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy." He said hell is "a condition resulting from attitudes and actions which people adopt in this life." Concerning the concept of eternal damnation, the pope said, "Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person, and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever." The pope also added, "The thought of hell and even less the improper use of biblical images must not create anxiety or despair." Rather, he stated, it is a reminder of the freedom found in Christ.

http://www.ovrlnd.com/Cults/poprejectshell.html

lol blake

the pope stated what he thinks hell isn't instead of describing what he thinks hell really is.

What a cop out.

Lol you quoting the pope

[vy65]

the pope stated what he thinks hell isn't instead of describing what he thinks hell really is.

What a cop out.

Lol you quoting the pope


During his weekly address to the general audience of 8,500 people at the Vatican on July 28, 1999, Pope John Paul II rejected the reality of a physical, literal hell as a place of eternal fire and torment. Rather, the pope said hell is separation, even in this life, from the joyful communion with God. According to an official Vatican transcript of the pope's speech, Pope John Paul II noted that the Scriptural references to hell and the images portrayed by Scripture are only symbolic and figurative of "the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God. " He added, "Rather than a physical place, hell is the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy." He said hell is "a condition resulting from attitudes and actions which people adopt in this life." Concerning the concept of eternal damnation, the pope said, "Damnation consists precisely in definitive separation from God, freely chosen by the human person, and confirmed with death that seals his choice for ever." The pope also added, "The thought of hell and even less the improper use of biblical images must not create anxiety or despair." Rather, he stated, it is a reminder of the freedom found in Christ.

lol can't read
lol can't understand
lol major theologian telling blake to stfu
lol angry at christians for no good reason
lol cuckold

[ALVAREZ6]

Thou shalt not question God.

That mentality is pathetic, and it's frustrating that so many Americans have a similar point of view religiously and politically and are afraid of considering change that could actually progress this country. This has more to do with the stubborn attitude of not considering, even for a few seconds, something different than it has to due with religion.

[Bill_Brasky]

So you could donate money to the church in hopes of not going to hell.

Money that they won't pay taxes on.

[Blake]

lol can't read
lol can't understand
lol major theologian telling blake to stfu
lol angry at christians for no good reason
lol cuckold

I'm not angry with Christians until they push their religious beliefs into politics.


ROME (CNS) -- God's mercy and love are great, but those who reject him should know that hell "exists and is eternal," Pope Benedict XVI said.

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0701686.htm

Are you a Christian? Catholic? Is that why your ass is aflame?

Or are you addressing me for no good reason?


Which Pope is right about hell, vy65?
Benedict or John Paul?

[vy65]

I'm not a Catholic or even a Christian. I got no horse in this race.

I don't see why what the two Popes are saying is mutually exclusive.

lol butthurt
lol still angry at christians
lol takes anger out on internet message board
lol probably fondled by a preacher
lol cuckold

[vy65]

lol doesn't even bother reading the article he links ...



"The important thing is to understand that "the true enemy is attachment to sin, which can lead us to the failure of our own existence," he said."

"As a theologian, the pope wrote about hell on several occasions. In the 1968 book, "Introduction to Christianity," he described hell as a state of existential abandonment, "the loneliness into which love can no longer reach."

What a fucking idiot ...

[Blake]

I'm not a Catholic or even a Christian. I got no horse in this race.

I don't see why what the two Popes are saying is mutually exclusive.

I know you don't.




lol butthurt
lol still angry at christians
lol takes anger out on internet message board
lol probably fondled by a preacher
lol cuckold


lol doesn't even bother reading the article he links ...



What a fucking idiot ...

The difference in what the two popes are saying is pretty clear.


Pope:Hell is a Real Place Where Sinners Burn in Everlasting Fire

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,261844,00.html

vy65 failing at trolling.

Again.

[vy65]

Do you not read the links you post? Honest question.

[vy65]

Also, lol fox news

[Blake]

Do you not read the links you post? Honest question.

Yes.

For having no horse in this race, you sure come off like you do.

[vy65]

Yes.

For having no horse in this race, you sure come off like you do.

So you saw this bit then, right?

Vatican officials said that the Pope — who is also the Bishop of Rome — had been speaking in "straightforward" language "like a parish priest." He had wanted to reinforce the new Catholic catechism, which holds that hell is a "state of eternal separation from God," to be understood "symbolically rather than physically."

I'm just amused by how you end up looking like a bigger retard than the Christians you're trying to outwit or lambast or convert or whatever it is you're trying to do here.

[silverblk mystix]

"Hell is other people."

Sartre

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Hell is for children

Benatar

[Blake]

So you saw this bit then, right?

Vatican officials said that the Pope — who is also the Bishop of Rome — had been speaking in "straightforward" language "like a parish priest." He had wanted to reinforce the new Catholic catechism, which holds that hell is a "state of eternal separation from God," to be understood "symbolically rather than physically."

I'm just amused by how you end up looking like a bigger retard than the Christians you're trying to outwit or lambast or convert or whatever it is you're trying to do here.

So your horse in the race is the troll horse. Fwiw, your horse is dead last with no hope of placing.


It's funny you think Fox News made up that headline because they are Faux News. :lol


You haven't read the entirety of Benedict's speech that day, have you.

[vy65]

Nope. But apparently you haven't either.

In a homily that he gave on 25 March 2007, Pope Benedict XVI stated: "Jesus came to tell us that he wants us all in heaven and that hell, of which so little is said in our time, exists and is eternal for those who close their hearts to his love."[64][65] Journalist Richard Owen's interpretation of this remark as declaring that hell is an actual place was reported in many media[66]

[66] ^ The Times, 27 March 2007, reported "Hell is a place where sinners really do burn in an everlasting fire, and not just a religious symbol designed to galvanise the faithful, the Pope has said" (The Fires of Hell Are Real and Eternal, Pope Warns). Fox News reproduced the article as published on The Times, under the heading:"Pope: Hell Is a Real Place Where Sinners Burn in Everlasting Fire" (Pope: Hell Is a Real Place Where Sinners Burn in Everlasting Fire). The Australian published Owen's article on its 28 March 2007 issue (Hell is real and eternal: Pope). The Canadian National Post of 28 March 2007, quoting The Times, reported: "Pope Benedict XVI has been reminding the faithful of some key beliefs of their faith, including the fact hell is a place where sinners burn in an everlasting fire" (Hell 'exists and is eternal,' Pope warns). The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette of 3 April 2007, again referring to The Times, reported: "Pope Benedict XVI has reinstated hell as a real place where the heat is always on" (Playing with fire).

[vy65]

lol fox news
lol taking shit out of context
lol not knowing what a catechism is
lol posting shit that contradicts his entire position
lol angry at christians
lol stupid angry cuckold

[JoeChalupa]

Let us pray.

[Blake]

Nope. But apparently you haven't either.

In a homily that he gave on 25 March 2007, Pope Benedict XVI stated: "Jesus came to tell us that he wants us all in heaven and that hell, of which so little is said in our time, exists and is eternal for those who close their hearts to his love."[64][65] Journalist Richard Owen's interpretation of this remark as declaring that hell is an actual place was reported in many media[66]

[66] ^ The Times, 27 March 2007, reported "Hell is a place where sinners really do burn in an everlasting fire, and not just a religious symbol designed to galvanise the faithful, the Pope has said" (The Fires of Hell Are Real and Eternal, Pope Warns). Fox News reproduced the article as published on The Times, under the heading:"Pope: Hell Is a Real Place Where Sinners Burn in Everlasting Fire" (Pope: Hell Is a Real Place Where Sinners Burn in Everlasting Fire). The Australian published Owen's article on its 28 March 2007 issue (Hell is real and eternal: Pope). The Canadian National Post of 28 March 2007, quoting The Times, reported: "Pope Benedict XVI has been reminding the faithful of some key beliefs of their faith, including the fact hell is a place where sinners burn in an everlasting fire" (Hell 'exists and is eternal,' Pope warns). The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette of 3 April 2007, again referring to The Times, reported: "Pope Benedict XVI has reinstated hell as a real place where the heat is always on" (Playing with fire).

I read Owens entire piece.

You haven't.

Lol wikipedia.

Lol ” inferno”.

[Blake]

lol fox news
lol taking shit out of context
lol not knowing what a catechism is
lol posting shit that contradicts his entire position
lol angry at christians
lol stupid angry cuckold

The troll outline is passable but the content is full of lies and ignorance.

D-

[Blake]

vy65, what was the point of you posting the John Paul bit to begin with?

[Blake]

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Blake, Phenomanul

Hi Phenomanul.

Why do you think God created hell?

[vy65]

I read Owens entire piece.

You haven't.

Lol wikipedia.

Lol ” inferno”.

But you didn't read the Pope's. More importantly, you missed the whole point -- Owens misquoting/mischaracterizing what the Pope said

lol fox news
lol oh so very angry
lol boutons-like obsession with Christianity
lol fucked himself over royally trying to appear smart
lol missing the point of this in the first place
lol blake

[Blake]

But you didn't read the Pope's. More importantly, you missed the whole point -- Owens misquoting/mischaracterizing what the Pope said

lol fox news
lol oh so very angry
lol boutons-like obsession with Christianity
lol fucked himself over royally trying to appear smart
lol missing the point of this in the first place
lol blake

who says Owens misquoted the Pope?

So far you are the only one.

lol boutons-like obsession over me.

[Blake]

vy65, what was the point of you posting the John Paul bit to begin with?

[vy65]

lol thinking I'm obsessed with you

you can read - go back and figure it out

[Blake]

lol thinking I'm obsessed with you

lol yeah


you can read - go back and figure it out

I did. You are the only one that thinks he misquoted the Pope.

lol no horse

[Blake]

vy65, what was the point of you posting the John Paul bit to begin with?

[vy65]

Serious question:

Why did God create hell?


Hell is a real place according to the Bible.

lol still not getting it

lol angry at christians


lol yeah



I did. You are the only one that thinks he misquoted the Pope.

lol no horse

you're wrong

[Blake]

lol still not getting it

lol angry at christians

lol you still haven't given it

lol you're getting angry over looking obsessed and stupid.


you're wrong

lol no horse in this thread

Why are you here? What was the point of you posting that bit on John Paul?