Dewhurst versus Cruz

[Nbadan]

A multi-multi millionaire (quarter of a billion to be exact) 'George Bush" republican, homophobic



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d9/David_Dewhurst_head_shot.jpg/500px-David_Dewhurst_head_shot.jpg
Jabberjaws for Texas Senator


versus Ted Cruz, , otherwise known as Rafael Edward Cruz a former TX Senate Tom Delay henchman...

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Meet the Republicans Running for U.S. Senate

[Winehole23]

jabberjaws? why do I suddenly feel nine years old again?

[Nbadan]

those teeth can't be real

[Winehole23]

how trenchant

[Nbadan]

Seriously, the tea potty beat Lugar they can beat Dewhurst...

[Winehole23]

why are you against Dewhurst?

[Nbadan]

why are you against Dewhurst?

Obviousy because he is against gay marriage.

[spursncowboys]

so being against gay marriage makes you a homophobe?

[Nbadan]

No canceling a high school play because you appointed yourself the moral 'decider' does.

[Winehole23]

Obviousy because he is against gay marriage.That's a hard row to hoe in Texas. I'm against Dewhurst for other reasons. I'm sorta spooked out by him, frankly. Mainly, I wish he were replacing John Cornyn instead of Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

[Das Texan]

i like how the choices are essentially like the follows:


stab yourself in the left leg

or

stab yourself in the right leg.


no matter which you pick, you are gonna get stabbed and its gonna hurt like a mofo.

[George Gervin's Afro]

the gop is creepy scary now

[boutons_deux]

yep, and it will continue to get creepier and weirder. America does and will suffer.

[EVAY]

that's a hard row to hoe in texas. I'm against dewhurst for other reasons. I'm sorta spooked out by him, frankly. Mainly, i wish he were replacing john cornyn instead of kay bailey hutchinson.

+1

[EVAY]

So, who do you guys think we should be supporting? Honest question...I don't know...this may be the first time in my life I ever sit out an election. Senate and Pres.

[CosmicCowboy]

So whats wrong with Cruz?

If NBADan hates him it actually is a plus in my way of looking at it...

[coyotes_geek]

That's a hard row to hoe in Texas. I'm against Dewhurst for other reasons. I'm sorta spooked out by him, frankly. Mainly, I wish he were replacing John Cornyn instead of Kay Bailey Hutchinson.

Agreed. As congress critters go, Kay is among the lesser offensive ones.

[boutons_deux]

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[TeyshaBlue]

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[fmedrano1977]

There's Glenn Adisson

[Winehole23]

So, who do you guys think we should be supporting? Honest question...I don't know...this may be the first time in my life I ever sit out an election. Senate and Pres.I'm fairly ignorant about the TX Senate race. Ted Cruz is a cypher, David Dewhurst is experienced, impeccably qualified and personable, but vaguely unsettling to me.

I have no idea who else is running but I presume, since we're in Texas, that the winner of the GOP primary (Dewhurst) will of course be the eventual winner.

I'll probably end up throwing my vote away on some genial nonentity I agree with only partially and am barely familiar with, merely to register my strong and abiding disapproval off the two major parties.

[Winehole23]

Agreed. As congress critters go, Kay is among the lesser offensive ones.Cornyn is awful. His turn as TX AG kindly soured me on him, his tenure in the US Senate has served to confirm and deepen my initial disagreeable impressions.

[Winehole23]

@CC: why should we vote for Ted Cruz?

[CosmicCowboy]

@CC: why should we vote for Ted Cruz?

I'm not in the tank for Cruz and honestly don't know much more about him than I have heard in the ads.

[Winehole23]

fair enough. I appreciate the reply. :tu

[CosmicCowboy]

@CC: why should we vote for Ted Cruz?

LOL cuz it's better than voting for Craig James. (The guy that got Leach fired at Texas Tech)

[clambake]

cruz was the director for policy planning of the federal trade commission.

(shudders)

[Winehole23]

i like how the choices are essentially like the follows:


stab yourself in the left leg

or

stab yourself in the right leg.


no matter which you pick, you are gonna get stabbed and its gonna hurt like a mofo.false dilemma.

voting for Gary Johnson and Jim Gray won't hurt me at all in November, and probably not anytime afterward, either.

[Winehole23]

hats off to Craig James for aiming high. has he ever been elected before?

[Yonivore]

Obviousy because he is against gay marriage.
Obama was against gay marriage; were you against him?

[Winehole23]

No canceling a high school play because you appointed yourself the moral 'decider' does.close, but your facts are a little off


The play has been a source of controversy since its 1998 off-Broadway premiere at the Manhattan Theatre Club. Fun fact: The cast featured Dexter’s Michael C. Hall (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0355910/) and starred Josh Lucas (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0524197/) in a breakout role as gay Judas (eight years later Lucas portrayed iconic Texas Western basketball coach Don Haskins in Glory Road). The Catholic League and others condemned and intensely protested that performance, calling it blasphemous. They were one-upped by the response to the 2000 premiere in London: a fatwa against McNally from the Shariah court of the U.K. The Stephenville premiere didn’t reach that extreme, but it was no exception. On the eve of Tarleton (State University)’s first and only planned performance of the infamous “gay Jesus play,” as the university braced for unprecedented protests amid a media firestorm that extended far beyond Texas, an unexpected condemnation of the play was blasted across the state by, of all people, Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst (http://www.texastribune.org/directory/david-dewhurst/).


“Every citizen is entitled to the freedom of speech,” Dewhurst said in a statement (http://www.texastribune.org/blogs/post/2010/mar/26/lite-gove-gay-jesus/) on Friday, the day before the scheduled performance, “but no one should have the right to use government funds or institutions to portray acts that are morally reprehensible to the majority of Americans.” Hours later, the performance was canceled by the professor of the course, Mark Holtorf, citing security concerns and "the need to maintain an orderly academic environment." There is no plan to reschedule it. Otte will be graded based on his final tech rehearsal.
http://www.texastribune.org/texas-education/higher-education/play-canceled-at-tarleton-state-university/

[Yonivore]

So whats wrong with Cruz?

If NBADan hates him it actually is a plus in my way of looking at it...
He's Palin-endorsed.

[George Gervin's Afro]

He's Palin-endorsed.

speaking of creepy scary...

[Yonivore]

speaking of creepy scary...
Hell, Y'all tried to get John Edwards in as Vice President. Talk about "creepy scary."

[Winehole23]

@Nbadan: in fairness, Dewhurst did try to claim the kill and told lies about the "deceased"

[fmedrano1977]

Glenn Adisson is a small government guy.

[scott]

I'm not registered with any party, nor do I want to be, so I can't vote in primaries... but if I were, I'd vote for Dewhurst for one simple reason: it's the only way to get him out of the Lt. Gov and potential Gov seat down the road.

At least in the US Senate there will be 99 other Senators to mitigate his bullshit. As Lt. Gov he is Chief Executive Asshole

[spursncowboys]

@scott, what exactly have you not liked about him? I've been out of texas for about six years so I'm out of the always classy south texas politics.

[Nbadan]

Weasle...

David Dewhurst signed Rick Perry's budget pledge
By
Todd J. Gillman/Reporter
[email protected] | Bio



Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst has signed Gov. Rick Perry's no-tax, lower-spending pledge, it turns out.



Dewhurst's official office issued a statement about this time yesterday indicating that he supports the principles, while sidestepping the governor's call for state lawmakers to formally abide by its details. Turns out that a bit later yesterday, Dewhurst tweeted from his "personal" Twitter account: "Proud to support Governor Perry by signing the Texas Budget Compact." And his U.S. Senate campaign posted a similar note on its Facebook page.

Source: http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/04/dewhurst-did-sign-the-rick-per.html

[Nbadan]

The Dewhurst disaster

“Massive cuts to education this year, followed by systematic cuts planned for next year, will create a “Double Robin Hood” scenario for many public schools,” Sadler said. “I call this ‘The Dewhurst Disaster.


<<snip>>

“During the last legislative session, it is now obvious that both Governor Rick Perry and Lt. Gov. Dewhurst were interested only in their selfish desire to run for higher office and were too afraid of the right-wing extremists to tackle the hard issues of our state created by their mismanagement,” Sadler said. “I can certainly understand why both of these men would try to leave the State before Texans learn of the disaster they have created.”

<<snip>>

“In the past few weeks Texans from across the political spectrum have demanded that the Governor call a Special Session of the Legislature to solve our state’s school funding crisis,” said Sadler. “From conservative Republican State Senator Steve Ogden to the Texas State Teachers’ Association, responsible Texans are demanding that our leaders step up, forget about politics, and show some real leadership for our schools and our school children. It’s time David Dewhurst woke up and paid attention.”

http://eyeonwilliamson.org/

[Nbadan]

Anyone remember this?


AUSTIN – State leaders vowed Thursday to go to court if Congress gives final approval to a bill that would force Texas to preserve current education spending levels through 2013 to qualify for additional federal aid.

Gov. Rick Perry and Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst called the requirement – contained in a $26 billion job protection bill passed by the U.S. Senate on Thursday – an unconstitutional intrusion into state affairs that could cost Texas schools more than $820 million. The House is expected to take final action on the measure next week.

"We're going to file suit, and I would be delighted to be a named plaintiff," Dewhurst said. He called on the House members from Texas to get the provision removed.

Dewhurst said a lawsuit would be based on the fact that the restrictive language on education spending applies only to Texas.

Perry complained of federal intrusion into state authority and said that under the state Constitution, officials can't guarantee future spending
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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texass...

[scott]

@scott, what exactly have you not liked about him? I've been out of texas for about six years so I'm out of the always classy south texas politics.

He's an unabashed shill for whoever donates the most money. For all the talk of free-market conservationism, he's happy to abandon those free-market principles when the free-market doesn't work in favor of his preferred donors. He's pay-for-play politics at its finest.

[TeyshaBlue]

Tom Leppert is moving up a bit.

He's a member of the pay for play club as well.

[CosmicCowboy]

He's an unabashed shill for whoever donates the most money. For all the talk of free-market conservationism, he's happy to abandon those free-market principles when the free-market doesn't work in favor of his preferred donors. He's pay-for-play politics at its finest.

I have no idea of its true, but one of the attack ads against him says that he once sued a client for non-payment of a $250,000 legal bill (he's an attorney) when he was a sitting senator and he said that the services rendered included getting a law changed. Or was that Wentworth...I'm getting confused with all of these attack ads.

[scott]

I have no idea of its true, but one of the attack ads against him says that he once sued a client for non-payment of a $250,000 legal bill (he's an attorney) when he was a sitting senator and he said that the services rendered included getting a law changed. Or was that Wentworth...I'm getting confused with all of these attack ads.

That's Wentworth.

I won't get into details on Dewhurst, but I speak from personal experience. Up to each individual reader to decide if I'm credible or not.

[Nbadan]

This battle is getting very interesting...the AFP-Koch sponsored tea party versus David Dewhurst...

[SnakeBoy]

I don't know too much about either of them but if I voted in primaries I'd have to go with Cruz just because Dewhurst seems like a sleazebag. I read he attacked Cruz for recieving a donation from a gay man and then I heard this stupid attack on the radio yesterday

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Cruz is a secret chinaman :lol

[Yonivore]

I'm not registered with any party, nor do I want to be, so I can't vote in primaries... but if I were, I'd vote for Dewhurst for one simple reason: it's the only way to get him out of the Lt. Gov and potential Gov seat down the road.

At least in the US Senate there will be 99 other Senators to mitigate his bullshit. As Lt. Gov he is Chief Executive Asshole
Looks like you may be stuck with him, scott.

[Spurminator]

According to Nolan Ryan, David Dewhurst is a true Texas consrmtve.

[Yonivore]

According to Nolan Ryan, David Dewhurst is a true Texas consrmtve.
That was a fucking shame...it nearly broke my heart.

[scott]

Please, for the love of Whatever You Believe In, please go out and vote for Dewhurst tomorrow.

[Yonivore]

Please, for the love of Whatever You Believe In, please go out and vote for Dewhurst tomorrow.
I think you may be too late and screaming to too small an audience.

[Winehole23]

for US Senate? be a tough one to swallow for me, but I'm not particularly fond of Ted Cruz either. whoever wins, we deserve it . . .

[CosmicCowboy]

Damn. I really think Cruz is gonna beat Dewhurst. I wouldn't have given him a snowballs chance in hell six months ago. Those negative ads have backfired big time.

[CosmicCowboy]

I think he killed his chance to run for Governor too. Everyone I know is just disgusted with the negative ads.

[Spurminator]

The Dewhurst campaign has shown a striking lack of respect for the intelligence of Texas voters. The main messages I've gotten are that I shouldn't vote for Cruz because he went to law school, and I should vote for Dewhurst because Nolan Ryan says so.

[CosmicCowboy]

The Tea Party is getting the credit for Cruz's success but it goes a lot deeper than that...this is just a mainstream vote of disgust with Dewhurst.

[coyotes_geek]

According to Nolan Ryan, David Dewhurst is a true Texas consrmtve.

Nolan also backed KBH over Perry in the guv primary. Apparently we're only interested in Nolan's opinion when it comes to baseball.

[coyotes_geek]

The Dewhurst campaign has shown a striking lack of respect for the intelligence of Texas voters. The main messages I've gotten are that I shouldn't vote for Cruz because he went to law school, and I should vote for Dewhurst because Nolan Ryan says so.

The Dewhurst campaign is trying to follow the Rick Perry model. They're just not as good at it as Perry's team is.

[Winehole23]

bad timing, too. I can't think of an election in Texas since the late 70s-early 80s where it was a disadvantage to be the establishment Republican.

[leemajors]

I think he killed his chance to run for Governor too. Everyone I know is just disgusted with the negative ads.

yeah i could only take an hour or two of the olympics the other day b/c of it.

[CosmicCowboy]

Wentworth has the same issues...I think Wentworth is gonna survive but the race will be a lot closer than people thought...

[DarrinS]

If you are FOR traditional marriage, you are a homophobe.


Oh, also you are a polygamaphobe.

[Winehole23]

not seeing the connection, Darrin. what are you talking about?

[angrydude]

Dewhurst's cynical campaign has really put me off. He also looks like a deer in headlights all the time.

[DarrinS]

not seeing the connection, Darrin. what are you talking about?


Being FOR traditional marriage implies you are against NON-traditional marriages. Isn't that what all the Chick-fil-A ruckus is about?

[clambake]

If you are FOR traditional marriage, you are a homophobe.


Oh, also you are a polygamaphobe.

brilliant

[Winehole23]

Being FOR traditional marriage implies you are against NON-traditional marriages. Isn't that what all the Chick-fil-A ruckus is about?yes. do you know what this thread is about?

[Winehole23]

please see: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201614

[scott]

Oh yeah, please also vote for Wentworth. :(

Speaking from a beer perspective.

[DarrinS]

yes. do you know what this thread is about?


Was specifically addressed by the OP. Stop being a dick.

[Winehole23]

you want to talk about Dan's off the cuff, or are you already done?

[Winehole23]

also, had you quoted what you were responding to the context would've been clearer. Dan's editorial comments were pretty much dead until you resurrected them.

[Spurminator]

(post removed: off topic)

[scott]

Well. Fuck.

[Clipper Nation]

If you are FOR traditional marriage, you are a homophobe.


Oh, also you are a polygamaphobe.
"Traditional" marriage is simply codeword for bigotry, tbh.... Racial segregation, slavery, and women having almost no rights used to be traditions as well....

[spursncowboys]

So what are the pros and cons of cruz? I'm not in TX and are really following the politics. Is he another carpetbagger calling himself a tea party member?

[scott]

So what are the pros and cons of cruz? I'm not in TX and are really following the politics. Is he another carpetbagger calling himself a tea party member?

All indications are, for whatever reason, he's a Tea Party rising superstar and favored son. The race essentially became about both guys (Dewhurts and Cruz) trying to prove they are "more conservative" by saying the exact same thing, policy wise, and resulting to negative attacks to get the upper hand.

In the end, Dewhurst's campaign got a lot dirtier than Cruz's, and Cruz was able to portray Dewhurst as more moderate than him (a sad day in America when moderate is a bad word - for either party - but that is just my opinion).

I think the negative ads and overall shadiness of Dewhurst's campaign really did him in. His team even created a twitter account called "TXSenateFactCheck" that tried to create the illusion of being an unbiased fact checker, but was really just a Dewhurst shill.

I voted for Dewhurst, for reasons previously stated. I really wasn't fond of either being a US Senator, but now it appears the Tea Party has gained a seat with one of their favorite members.

[scott]

But to more directly answer your question, I really don't know what Cruz actually believes in. The campaign for both guys turned into far right talking points, and could basically be summed up with:

-Repeal Obamacare
-Defend traditional marriage
-More border patrol
-Eat Chick-Fil-A (seriously. Cruz was serving it at his campaign HQ today and making a point to announce it at every opportunity)

[scott]

“I’m looking for a landslide,” said Ryan Seth Hecker, wandering the increasingly crowded Marriott ball room where happy Ted Cruz supporters were gathering. “What we’re seeing is a tea party tidal wave,” said Hecker, who is chief operating officer of FreedomWorks for America, a tea party support group affiliated with former Congressman Dick Armey of Texas.

Hecker called the possibility of a Cruz victory “the biggest success in Tea Party history.”

“It shows that we’re able to mobilize in a state this large, where everybody said it couldn’t be done,” Hecker said. “’What it shows is that real bottom-up energy can win here, and if it can win here, it can win anywhere.”

http://blog.chron.com/election/2012/07/tea-party-taking-satisfaction-in-cruzs-early-success/

Not adding any editorial to that, just posting to answer the question about his Tea Party ties.

[Crookshanks]

Cruz beats Dewhurst and Campbell beats Wentworth - good day for the Tea Party in Texas!

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Cruz beats Dewhurst and Campbell beats Wentworth - good day for the Tea Party in Texas!

There are elements of tea Party I DO NOT like, but I like even less a Governor with a For Sale sign around his neck, Any lessening of his and his handlers influence is a good thing.

[ElNono]

But to more directly answer your question, I really don't know what Cruz actually believes in. The campaign for both guys turned into far right talking points, and could basically be summed up with:

-Repeal Obamacare
-Defend traditional marriage
-More border patrol
-Eat Chick-Fil-A (seriously. Cruz was serving it at his campaign HQ today and making a point to announce it at every opportunity)

I suspect elections in Texas are one giant republican circlejerk?

[spursncowboys]

But to more directly answer your question, I really don't know what Cruz actually believes in. The campaign for both guys turned into far right talking points, and could basically be summed up with:

-Repeal Obamacare
-Defend traditional marriage
-More border patrol
-Eat Chick-Fil-A (seriously. Cruz was serving it at his campaign HQ today and making a point to announce it at every opportunity)

Drives me nuts when these politicians are incorporating Tea Party with Social Conservatives!

[spursncowboys]

Cruz beats Dewhurst and Campbell beats Wentworth - good day for the Tea Party in Texas!

A long time ago, when I was valeting. I did a party in 09 zip code. I remember all the local politicians being there. I got into Judge Christian about Wentworth. It turned out it was a Wentworth fundraiser. I'm trolling with this story, but they all seemed so out of touch to real problems. Made me always not like Wentworth.

[spursncowboys]

terrible tippers.

[SnakeBoy]

Well. Fuck.

:lol Bad day for you.

I thought about going to vote for Cruz but didn't. I've heard a number of interviews with him and I think he will be a good conservative senator. Sounds like an intelligent guy that's capable of doing a good job.

I will echo your "Fuck" in regards to Campbell. I'm christian, I like most christians I know, but that woman has crazy christian written all over her.

[Nbadan]

Freedom Works and the KOCK brothers have another politician in the pocketbook...

[boutons_deux]

Five Things Everyone Should Know About GOP Senate Candidate Ted Cruz

1) Ted Cruz Believes George Soros Leads A United Nations Conspiracy To Eliminate Golf: In 1992, President George H.W. Bush joined the leaders of 177 other nations in endorsing a non-binding UN document known as Agenda 21. This twenty year-old document largely speaks at a very high level of generality about reducing poverty and building sustainable living environments. Nevertheless, Cruz published an article on his campaign website claiming that this non-binding document is actually a nefarious plot to “abolish ‘unsustainable’ environments, including golf courses, grazing pastures, and paved roads.” To top it off, Cruz lays the blame for this global anti-golf conspiracy at the feet of a well-known Tea Party boogieman — “The originator of this grand scheme is George Soros.”

2) Ted Cruz Wants To Gut Social Security: In an interview with the Texas Tribune Cruz labeled Social Security a “ponzi scheme” and outlined a three-step plan to gut this essential program. Cruz would raise the Social Security retirement age, cut future benefits, and implement a George W. Bush-style plan to privatize much of the program. In other words, in addition to forcing them to work longer for fewer benefits, Cruz would place retirees at the mercy of a fickle stock market. Had Social Security been privatized during the career of a worker who retired near the end of the Bush Administration, that worker would have retired with less money in their privatized account than they would have if they’d simply kept their money between their mattress and box spring.

3) Ted Cruz Wants To Party Like It’s 1829: The Constitution provides that Acts of Congress “shall be the supreme law of the land,” and thus cannot be nullified by rogue state lawmakers. Cruz, however, co-authored an unconstitutional proposal claiming two or more states could simply ignore the Constitution’s command and nullify the Affordable Care Act so long as they work together. Although the Constitution does permit states to join in “interstate compacts” that have the force of law, under the Constitution such compacts require the consent of Congress and can be vetoed by the President. Cruz falsely claimed that states do not need to meet these Constitutional requirements to undermine laws they don’t like.

4) Ted Cruz Is An Islamophobe: At a campaign event earlier this month, Cruz touted another of the Tea Party’s favorite conspiracy theories, claiming that “Sharia law is an enormous problem” in this country. Although it is common for far right politicians to claim that American law is somehow being replaced with Islamic law, these claims have absolutely no basis in reality. Few American courts have ever even mentioned Sharia or Islamic law, and those that have generally only do so in contracts or similar cases where a party before the court agreed to be bound by Sharia law.

5) Ted Cruz Campaigned On How He Helped Texas Kill A Mexican: Cruz’s very first campaign ad encouraged GOP primary voters to support him because he helped make it easier for Texas to kill an “illegal alien.” According to the ad, “Cruz fought all the way to the Supreme Court” after “the UN and World Court overruled a Texas jury’s verdict to execute an illegal alien.” In reality, the case Cruz won had nothing to do with whether Texas had the authority to kill this man. Rather, it concerned whether Texas could defy a treaty requiring it to inform foreign nationals who are arrested of their right “to request assistance from the consul of his own state.” Even North Korea honored this treaty that Cruz fought to undermine.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/31/619461/five-things-to-know-about-gop-senate-candidate-ted-cruz/

Texas bubbas are low-information, ignorant fucks. The best one can say about them is that they are simply too stupid to understand how the 1% fucks them over.