How much does a girl's past..

[z0sa]

I don't know what makes folks insist she's a guy.

Except the ones who think she's me.

:lol that's a new one to me

are you transgender Chump? :downspin:

[ChumpDumper]

Realistically though, being a "proud ho" will backfire on most girls, unless they are an 8+ out of 10, with something to offer..

By "proud ho", I'm referring to the annoying females that constantly discuss their "freedom" and "fucking how many guys they want and don't give a fuck what anybody thinks"..that's cool with me, but you'll probably have a difficult time catching a quality guy to date, unless you find a new group of people/new city:lol..True, I don't really care for women who brag about their sexual exploits, but guys who do it sound just as stupid.

And men and women who fuck their way through all or most of a social group have something else going on entirely. It's a big world out there, quit fucking people who will inevitably exchange notes about it.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol that's a new one to me

are you transgender Chump? :downspin:What makes you think I-- er, CF is?

[FkLA]

Its definitely not surprising or hard for a 21-22 yr old to have slept with that many.

But it is repulsive and taints her for life, any guy that would try to get into a committed relationship/marriage with a girl like that is just asking to get fucked over.

[ChumpDumper]

Its definitely not surprising or hard for a 21-22 yr old to have slept with that many.

But it is repulsive and taints her for life, any guy that would try to get into a committed relationship/marriage with a girl like that is just asking to get fucked over.Would it taint a guy for life?

[ChumpDumper]

except i didn't.No shit.



and no, shes nasty. everyone's been in that shit.What's your cutoff point?

[HarlemHeat37]

Another issue, from my experience, is that females that have only ever been with 1 or 2 guys are always going to be curious and jealous of missing out on opportunities that their friends have, tbh..it's human nature..

So while 15-20+ may be a lot, or too much, for some, I'd say that dating or marrying a female with only 1 or 2 partners will eventually result in problems, tbh..most females in 2012 are not content with living a boring life with minimal exploration/experimentation, and then becoming a wife at an early age..

It's especially problematic when their male counterpart has had plenty of partners and experiences, tbh..

[FkLA]

Would it taint a guy for life?

Its different for guys. Double standard but thats how shit works. I wouldnt disagree with the assumption that guys with a shitload of sexual partners wouldnt make good husbands though.

[TheSkeptic]

Would it taint a guy for life?

I think so. While it wouldn't bother me if my future partner had been with a few girls, there are definitely limits. Imo a male slut is just as untrustworthy as a female one.

[ChumpDumper]

0-3 just depends.On what?

[ChumpDumper]

my intuition, WHO those 1 or 2 guys were, how long they were together, her character in general, how much i like her, etc.So if you like her a lot, you could make more allowances in who the other guys were?

[TheSkeptic]

The skeptic has the better personality undoubtedly

...Because you don't know what we look like right? :D


op: if you are a young (<35), you should not be worried about a woman's past outside of any marriages or kids. You are probably not settlign down with her anyway.

and theskeptic sounds pretty sexy tbh.. while DuckingFumb is almost assuredly a pre-op male transgender.

Thanks guys though. :toast


By the way I think I'm starting to figure you gentlemen out. Correct me if I'm wrong but if a woman

1. Doesn't let herself go physically

2. Feeds him

3. Does what he wants in bed

4. Doesn't play mind games or use sex/food as a weapon

5. Gives him space when he needs it

6. Supports him emotionally

7. Validates his ego in general

8. Doesn't stop growing as a person

The relationship is good to go long-term then right? Have I missed anything?

[leemajors]

:( dolt? I won't be sleeping for a week after det one.

any reason you've waited to defend CF's gender til the 10,000th or so time this forum whom you supposedly speak for called her a man?

I know if burns that CF is more intelligent and certainly more composed than you, but there are other ways to deal with it.

I think anyone else who remembers your little slur flinging fit would definitely agree you are a dolt or worse.

[TheSkeptic]

^:lol I'd be happy with just half of those tbh

That doesn't fully make sense to me though.

If you guys are so easily pleased then how come it seems like so many men are having trouble finding women they can get with long-term? Just looking in the wrong places or what?

[silverblk mystix]

That doesn't fully make sense to me though.

If you guys are so easily pleased then how come it seems like so many men are having trouble finding women they can get with long-term? Just looking in the wrong places or what?


It really doesn't have as much to do with all those things you mentioned as it does with a guy being ready.

You could give a guy all those things and if he hasn't really decided that he is going to settle then it won't matter.

Hasn't every guy in here had a couple of good ones that you just lost interest in? I know I have. It had nothing to do with what she was doing or not doing-I just wasn't ready to settle. It was unfair of me at the time but I realized that this is what guys do. We try to find the best possible package and then we go all out. When we've had our fill we start looking to upgrade. Until we get everything out of our system and decide that we want to settle.

When a guy is ready and he is lucky enough to meet a girl that has a few or all of those things then it will be a no-brainer and there is a pretty good chance it will last.

It could be worse though, you could end up with a guy that will just lie all the time and continue to stay with you while still playing on the side.

[spursfan1000]

As long as she hasn't had sex with any of my friends or family & if she's clean

[angelbelow]

...Because you don't know what we look like right? :D
By the way I think I'm starting to figure you gentlemen out. Correct me if I'm wrong but if a woman

1. Doesn't let herself go physically

2. Feeds him

3. Does what he wants in bed

4. Doesn't play mind games or use sex/food as a weapon

5. Gives him space when he needs it

6. Supports him emotionally

7. Validates his ego in general

8. Doesn't stop growing as a person

The relationship is good to go long-term then right? Have I missed anything?

Lol that is actually a pretty solid list.

I would add:

1. Mother skills/responsible.

2. Legit individual hobby/job.

These two don't apply to me:

"2. Feeds him"

I am the chef in the family. My mom doesn't cook and my dad is retarded so I had to learn everything myself. Besides I doubt she'll (gf/wife) ever be able to cook as well as I do. It's important that she cleans the kitchen though. Dishwasher can do the plates, etc and I usually wash my own knives and pans.

"4. Doesn't play mind games or use sex/food as a weapon"

I think allowing them to play mind games and using sex is a way to keep the relationship healthy. It can be annoying but is an effective way to fulfill her attention needs. You just have to understand their perspective and play along.

[DeadlyDynasty]

As long as she hasn't had sex with any of my friends or family & if she's clean

What if she had sex with Magic Johnson?

[spursfan1000]

What if she had sex with Magic Johnson?

Then I'm gone :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

Then I'm gone :lol

Oh, so you're a racist now?

[ploto]

The main facet of this discussion that bothers me is the hypocrisy. I simply do not fathom how men think they can sleep with a bunch of supposed "sluts" who must not have high morals according to them. However, somehow they still view themselves as moral paradigms. You do realize that when that "pure" woman comes along, she may very well judge your past behavior as making you unworthy of her high morals.

[ploto]

also women really shouldn't be complaining considering yall are the ones who choose playas and get all wet at the thought of competing for a guy who obviously pulls all kinds of ass. then you turn around and have the audacity to act all hurt whenever he does the same shit to you and moves on to the next.

You obviously do not know me.

[TheSkeptic]

It really doesn't have as much to do with all those things you mentioned as it does with a guy being ready.

You could give a guy all those things and if he hasn't really decided that he is going to settle then it won't matter.

Hasn't every guy in here had a couple of good ones that you just lost interest in? I know I have. It had nothing to do with what she was doing or not doing-I just wasn't ready to settle. It was unfair of me at the time but I realized that this is what guys do. We try to find the best possible package and then we go all out. When we've had our fill we start looking to upgrade. Until we get everything out of our system and decide that we want to settle.

When a guy is ready and he is lucky enough to meet a girl that has a few or all of those things then it will be a no-brainer and there is a pretty good chance it will last.

It could be worse though, you could end up with a guy that will just lie all the time and continue to stay with you while still playing on the side.

You're probably right but I'm not convinced it's a guy thing. I know as a woman I've turned down long-term relationships for various reasons. Weird as it sounds since I'm still pretty young, I honestly think I could've been married by now if it wasn't for my future plans so I should think the whole concept of being "ready to settle down" is one that applies to both genders.




Lol that is actually a pretty solid list.

I would add:

1. Mother skills/responsible.

2. Legit individual hobby/job.

These two don't apply to me:

"2. Feeds him"

I am the chef in the family. My mom doesn't cook and my dad is retarded so I had to learn everything myself. Besides I doubt she'll (gf/wife) ever be able to cook as well as I do. It's important that she cleans the kitchen though. Dishwasher can do the plates, etc and I usually wash my own knives and pans.

Are you a white guy by any chance?

I guess in your case there'd definitely be a trade-off. Cleaning up on her part would just be common courtesy though imo. It doesn't make any sense but if I were the main cook (as I expect to be) I think it would hurt my feelings to not get any regular help with that. You're obviously a little more stable there than me. :lol



"4. Doesn't play mind games or use sex/food as a weapon"

I think allowing them to play mind games and using sex is a way to keep the relationship healthy. It can be annoying but is an effective way to fulfill her attention needs. You just have to understand their perspective and play along.

...What I would give for that kind of patience.

See I put that list together based on what I was observing in this thread and I think you're probably the first to state the opposite (though notice how it's not your preference :D).

Idk. I find the whole pouting/withdrawal thing really childish personally. And anyway, don't men give you more attention when you're not causing drama? How does letting her get away with what's clearly bad/counter-productive behaviour help the relationship in your view?

[z0sa]

I know if burns that CF is more intelligent and certainly more composed than you, but there are other ways to deal with it.

I think anyone else who remembers your little slur flinging fit would definitely agree you are a dolt or worse.

'fit' and 'dolt'? you bore me dude. i think you should apologize for being so easy to troll.

[DMC]

As long as she hasn't had sex with any of my friends or family & if she's clean
That leaves your sister out of it...


just kidding..

[DMC]

A woman has the right to fuck whomever she pleases, just as a man does as long as the other person is of legal age and consents.

Men who end up with these women in a relationship are generally soft, weak and the woman knows it. She's denying him sex on nights when her boss is ass fucking her after hours at work while dude at home is watching her kids. I've known a few dudes who ended up with cock hounds. It's funny to see how the woman handles him around guys she's fucked and he knows it, to watch her body language change around the more dominant male as her "chosen one" cowers and fumbles with the kids or her hand bag that he's carrying for her. He's usually has a beard, he's pale and "open minded".

Women who are put on a pedestal often shit on the one who put them there, but worship the one who dethrones them.

[DMC]

^fuck that shit
Same here, but it's out there and you've seen it too. You've seen these chicks show up that everyone's hit a few times, with some new dude who is oblivious to it and he's all proud and shit like he's got arm candy. Slowly you see his world crumble and his manhood is destroyed as he realizes everyone around him has fucked his girl, even the females.

[angelbelow]

Are you a white guy by any chance?

I guess in your case there'd definitely be a trade-off. Cleaning up on her part would just be common courtesy though imo. It doesn't make any sense but if I were the main cook (as I expect to be) I think it would hurt my feelings to not get any regular help with that. You're obviously a little more stable there than me. :lol

Nope, I'm Taiwanese.

I clean my own cookware because a lot of them take special maintenance. Example: Sharp knives don't like to stay wet and cannot go in the dish washer. They should also be sharpened after use. Highly recommended that you clean them immediately after use. Plenty of other examples too.. cast iron skillets, dutch ovens, strainers, some of those new school non stick pans etc.

For those reasons, I would rather wash them myself and avoid someone else ruining them.


...What I would give for that kind of patience.

See I put that list together based on what I was observing in this thread and I think you're probably the first to state the opposite (though notice how it's not your preference :D).

Idk. I find the whole pouting/withdrawal thing really childish personally. And anyway, don't men give you more attention when you're not causing drama? How does letting her get away with what's clearly bad/counter-productive behaviour help the relationship in your view?

When it comes to the Spurs and basketball, I like to harp on leadership and leadership qualities (maybe you remember our previous discussion.) It's because I've tried to be one at every significant stage of my life (so far so good, though I'm only 25 so still a work in progress.) Therefore, it's natural for me to be observant, evaluate behavior, be in tuned to other peoples emotion (in this case a gf), theorize on how to improve things internally and externally etc. It's also crucial to view things from an unbiased, non-emotional perspective.

My POV developed in college. Back then I was the president of an up and coming fraternity. We were only about 2 years old so a lot of our structure, bylaws, and constitution etc was a work in progress. School plus the fraternity "job" consumed me. I once callously joked that the perfect day would just be to get through school, work on the fraternity and come home and fuck the girl I was seeing and goto sleep. I decided to see what would happen if I carried out my joke literally and its safe to say things didn't work out too well. In fact she was able to put quite a negative spin on things and it affected my image. Instead of being mad I just theory-crafted better ways of pulling this off and tried figure out why she was so offended and if this was a common reaction. (Sounds dumb and simple but at the time I thought it could work without pulling strings.)

For me personally, assuming this is a day to day situation and not the weekend/special occasion, if you let me do my own thing without causing drama, you likely won't hear from me unless I want to fuck. One of my favorite hobbies involves a glass of red, expensive headphones, a dac/amp, and my music collection. So in addition to focusing on my work/career, some of my favorite hobbies and methods of relaxation depend on alone time.

I'm not sure if it "helps" the relationship though. Maybe you're right about conditioning the bad behavior. I'm just simply stating that I understand the reason behind why they do it and have decided to react according when it happens. I do feel like the more exposure I get to their strategy the better I get at deflecting them or figuring out ways to include her in some of my day to day activities.

For example, I get really annoyed in the kitchen when people get in my way (after all, its pretty dangerous when people stand around like idiots in some one else's work space) but I would and try to include her in the process. Doesn't always work because my annoyed tone triggers more problems, but at least we're spending time together and shes not whining about the lack of it. Another effective strategy would be taking a nice long walk. Why would I even want to do that in the first place? Well I have a 4year old dog and she's hyper as hell. Make the walk about spending time with the girl and mask the "chore" of walking the dog. Finding a commonly favored/loved show is more effective than watching random movies and shows together. The fact that you both love the show generates a lot of discussion and allows you to gain great insight into their personality and character. Who is there favorite character? Religion? How do they feel about cheating? What do they find thoughtful.. expensive gifts, surprises, etiquette etc? As long as you're observant, you're in great shape at dealing with this kind of stuff.

[Halberto]

Twice tonight. Sluts are good for some

[JoeyGreco]

I get a lot more calls from women checking on their men than I do men checking on their women. And regardless of what most men have been posting they'll jump at any opportunity for sex.

[reason]

Do any of you guys have female friends who you know enjoy sex and are open about it? Do you remain friends with them or are you disgusted with their behavior and end the friendship. Or do you find her more attractive because of it?

[Halberto]

I am friends with them, but I find it disgusting. Do I want to fuck her? HELL NO. Shes a slut, but shes still my friend

[TheSkeptic]

I get a lot more calls from women checking on their men than I do men checking on their women. And regardless of what most men have been posting they'll jump at any opportunity for sex.

In long-term type relationships that wouldn't surprise me honestly.

For the record though I don't think any of them have been denying that they'll jump at the chance to have sex. What they don't want is to be with a girl that's the same way once they're ready to settle down.

[TDMVPDPOY]

:lol i'm speaking in general terms it wasn't a personal insult

i understand what your saying...i hate fkn bastard single parents who are under age 25 to young to know better, too busy spreading their legs or pelvic thrusts forgetting to wear protection and having kids at a young age where they dont even look after them, just neglect the upbringing of children whether just putting it into someones else care while they too busy living it up again.....if you decide to live that sort of lifestyle, dont look back and dont regret the choices you made....


i look at young single moms who chose to go out with wankers of soceitys and i just lol at them, i know a few and im like some of these girls deserve better then going out with these bastard wankers.....some of these hoes think they have the audicity to look for a rich guy to settle down with after the loose as a goose or having multiple kids...most of these guys would just keep on walking or hit that shit and do a runner...

but love can do strange things to a person, some ppl are blind by it they will drop whatever standards and whatever friends and society views on them if they continue to persue the relationship

[Trill Clinton]

it means a lot. I need to know all the intimate details of her past before making things official. a lot of women go through a lot of shit that takes years for them to recover from and if she's still going through it then I don't want to waste either one of our time by getting involved with her.

[ididnotnothat]

it means a lot. I need to know all the intimate details of her past before making things official. a lot of women go through a lot of shit that takes years for them to recover from and if she's still going through it then I don't want to waste either one of our time by getting involved with her.

So do you require a "background" and "credit" check before you'll date a woman? You ask to see her medical records and then look up her family ancestry and conduct interviews with her family members and friends? Do you ask them for their facebook accounts?

[CuckingFunt]

:lol i'm speaking in general terms

Might be a mistake, that.

[DisAsTerBot]

of course it matters.... I dont want some girl who has no idea what she's doing. I like em to have learned a few tricks along the way. Teach em a few new ones. Rinse and repeat.

[Trill Clinton]

So do you require a "background" and "credit" check before you'll date a woman? You ask to see her medical records and then look up her family ancestry and conduct interviews with her family members and friends? Do you ask them for their facebook accounts?


my answer to all of your questions, NO.

When talking to a woman I'm getting to know, certain things come up during conversation. From there I ask open ended questions. Ask her about her past, sometimes they'll tell me straight up what they've been through.

Women who've been raped and haven't gone through counseling(dated a woman who went through that) tend to shy away from sex or any form of affection for that matter.

Some women may have been victims of domestic violence in previous relationships and are carrying those feelings over into our relationship. can't do it.

some women may have children; some may have children that don't live with her.

as you can see there are other ways go learning about her past than using invasive methods like background checks or stalking her facebook.