Scouts Inc. rips TimVP posts!

[Drachen]

I would like to make two humble requests.

1. blacken the OP
2. some kind of traffic meter to show the traffic starting around the time the OP was posted.

[TheSkeptic]

Maybe that's what he was thinking, "it's just a message board." How could he not realize that he could get caught, especially since SpursTalk is a high traffic forum.

Still could've covered his bases by sending a link. He probably just rewrote it enough that the article would pass Copyscape.

[NRHector]

Spurs win by 15 tonight and I'm copyrighting it :bang

[NASpurs]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/5/15/3023006/john-carroll-plagiarize-spurs-message-board-espn

[baseline bum]

WOW.....LJ if you get hired by ESPN can I have free insider?? lol

Haha, if LJ got hired there it would actually be worth paying for Insider.

[DMC]

I would like to make two humble requests.

1. blacken the OP
2. some kind of traffic meter to show the traffic starting around the time the OP was posted.
I wouldn't do either, makes it all a publicity stunt, or seemingly so.

[phxspurfan]

John the Pilferer


During the regular season the Clippers averaged 91.8 possessions per game. In order to defeat the Grizzlies the Clippers slowed the pace down even more, with less than 90 possessions per game. The Spurs on the other hand averaged 95.1 possessions in the first round of the playoffs versus the Jazz. However, they will struggle to speed up the pace of the game with Chris Paul in the game.


TimVP

In the regular season, the Clippers played at a pace of 91.8 possessions per game. To beat the Grizzlies, they dropped that number to under 90. The Spurs, conversely, averaged 95.1 possessions per game and they've played at the league's fastest pace so far in the playoffs. However, it's going to be next to impossible to speed up this series with Paul at the helm of the Clippers.


Wow, the guy must have spent just as much time to go through the entire post and change wording and make it legible as he would have spent writing original content.

[Drachen]

Ok, someone photoshop this into a spur so that Timvp can update his signature.

http://www.stockfuel.com/media/4e398b7d4a18e.jpg

[Obstructed_View]

Wow, the guy must have spent just as much time to go through the entire post and change wording and make it legible as he would have spent writing original content.

Nah, he'd have had to go back and watch Spurs games. ESPN can't be bothered to do that.

[pgardn]

Wow, the guy must have spent just as much time to go through the entire post and change wording and make it legible as he would have spent writing original content.

nah...

You have to think a bit and have done some research and maybe actually WATCHED a flppn game.

[DMC]

Ok, someone photoshop this into a spur so that Timvp can update his signature.

http://www.stockfuel.com/media/4e398b7d4a18e.jpg
Can't it's got a copyright watermark.

[pgardn]

Nah, he'd have had to go back and watch Spurs games. ESPN can't be bothered to do that.

Holy shit.

Now it looks like I took your stuff.

I even put nah...

Weird juju.

[Obstructed_View]

Holy shit.

Now it looks like I took your stuff.

I even put nah...

Weird juju.

:lol yeah I was going to go after you, but I'll learn from LJ's fine example.




Nah©

[Chachachango]

ESPN should send him this link:

http://sites.jcu.edu/fycomp/pages/plagiarism/

[Libri]

Haha, if LJ got hired there it would actually be worth paying for Insider.

It would be better to get a press pass.

[Drachen]

Can't it's got a copyright watermark.

ah, so you caught the irony. LOL

[ambchang]

Would really suck if this pisses enough people off and quality takes becomes less and less on forums.

Come to think of it, maybe ESPN is actively doing this to discourage people posting good information for free, starve the desperate basketball junkies, and have them pay for 2nd-rated content on their crap site.

[benefactor]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/5/15/3023006/john-carroll-plagiarize-spurs-message-board-espn
Right on the front of their NBA front page too.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba

[UnWantedTheory]

Holy Shit! :wow.......:lmao

[TimmehC]

Right on the front of their NBA front page too.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba

Anything that's bad for BSPN is good for SBN, tbh.

[redzero]

Great SpursTalk publicity stunt.

[TwelveGs210]

Can we find out this clowns ESPN email and all shit on him for copying?

[Manu-20]

lol so called experts on BSPN haveing to come here and steal the info from timvp.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Sad, but not surprising from WEakasSPN.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm surprised ESPN doesn't fire him for violating the "no Spurs" policy.

[100%duncan]

I'm surprised ESPN doesn't fire him for violating the "no Spurs" policy.

:lmao

[Drachen]

I think that the sbn article should at least link the site from which the plagerized material was lifted.

[LnGrrrR]

Nice find guys. :lmao

[Libri]

Entertainment
Sports
Plagiarizing
Network

[Jumi]

I just caught this on Deadspin! TimVP putting the Spurs on the front pages!!!!

[The Reckoning]

too bad espn controls mostly all sports media outlets, so this story won't get very far unfortunately.

should be interesting to see what happens with this.

[benefactor]

So Spurstalk gets reprimanded by a bunch of nobodies for stealing "intellectual property" then gets its "intellectual property" stolen by someone who works for the biggest sports media outlet in the country. Strange world we live in.

[DJB]

Considering ESPN makes money off of that being an "Insider article," ESPN should consider giving LJ some of that cash, tbh.

[GeorgiaSpursFan]

somebody needs to post it to Fark! Any totalFarkers here?

[Obstructed_View]

too bad espn controls mostly all sports media outlets, so this story won't get very far unfortunately.

should be interesting to see what happens with this.

Two minutes ago there were 900 guests on Spurstalk. As of ten seconds ago there were 1600.

[Obstructed_View]

So Spurstalk gets reprimanded by a bunch of nobodies for stealing "intellectual property" then gets its "intellectual property" stolen by someone who works for the biggest sports media outlet in the country. Strange world we live in.

That's a completely separate irony, as Spurstalk was reprimanded by a bunch of nobodies whose employees routinely poach from Spurstalk for their articles.

[GeorgiaSpursFan]

time to sell some ads!

[Bill_Brasky]

:lmao this is pretty great.

[NRHector]

Entertainment
Sports
Plagiarizing
Network

the plagiarizing network,:lol nicely done :toast

[Spur|n|Austin]

:lmao this is pretty great.

[Mikesatx]

I sincerely hope the guy doesn't get fired. If you're reading this, ESPN, don't can him.

Thanks.

Classy on your part. How bout ESPN covering any residual medical bills? Seems a fair trade to me.

[Yorae]

:lol at the number of guests viewing the threads.

[Trainwreck2100]

I think that the sbn article should at least link the site from which the plagerized material was lifted.

its a good move on Sb's part they end up just reporting a deadspin article and not make theiir own.

[benefactor]

That's a completely separate irony, as Spurstalk was reprimanded by a bunch of nobodies whose employees routinely poach from Spurstalk for their articles.
Agreed. :lol

[hater]

sue those motherfuckers.

It's not really brag worthy that some loser at BSPN is copying your shit but at least get some $ out of it. They were charging this as INSIDER which means they owe you some dough.

chi-ching motherfucker

fuck ESPN oh and fuck Apple

[manufan10]

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 393 (62 members and 331 guests)
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:wow DAMN!!

[hater]

this is exactly why I get free streams of games online, never pay for any sports content, or pretty much any multimedia content

time to wake up ppl. they are robbing from us

[ElNono]

fuck ESPN oh and fuck Apple

:lol

[NRHector]

Classy on your part. How bout ESPN covering any residual medical bills? Seems a fair trade to me.

yiFNrO33bSo

[Mugen]

this is exactly why I get free streams of games online, never pay for any sports content, or pretty much any multimedia content

time to wake up ppl. they are robbing from us

Don't use this as an excuse for your Jewiness, tbh.

[Manu20]

I saw this in the front page of Yahoo!! I thought it was regarding this current situation! lol

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h62/cantu5977/badges-jpg_214621.jpg

Instead of the Spurstalk Plate on top of the page it should be the pic above! lol

[Spurtacus]

this is exactly why I get free streams of games online, never pay for any sports content, or pretty much any multimedia content

time to wake up ppl. they are robbing from us

How's the picture/sound quality on your free streams?

[hater]

funny thing is had SOPA been passed, we could have shut down ESPN :lol

[WeNeedLength]

Uh oh, the troll has been activated..


Threads: 184,454, Posts: 5,709,812, Members: 25,891
Welcome to our newest member, I R John Caroll

:lol

[Drachen]

funny thing is had SOPA been passed, we could have shut down ESPN :lol

LOL holy shit! awesome!

[lurker]

The troll should only reword other people's posts.

[Spurtacus]

obijuan deserves a Spur

[Spur|n|Austin]

I saw this in the front page of Yahoo!! I thought it was regarding this current situation! lol

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h62/cantu5977/badges-jpg_214621.jpg

Instead of the Spurstalk Plate on top of the page it should be the pic above! lol

Please cite your work.

[The Reckoning]

Two minutes ago there were 900 guests on Spurstalk. As of ten seconds ago there were 1600.

crossing my fingers because timvp deserves credit for hours out of his day he devotes to his write-ups.

this is the "hot-off-the-press" phase. i wonder how it will handle within the upcoming days.

[LnGrrrR]

funny thing is had SOPA been passed, we could have shut down ESPN :lol

:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Mugen]

For any guests, please check out the lol thread in the NBA forum. You're welcome.

[manufan10]

For any guests, please check out the lol thread in the NBA forum. You're welcome.

:lmao

:tu

[benefactor]

For any guests, please check out the lol thread in the NBA forum. You're welcome.
:lol is the appropriate response.

[NRHector]

For any guests, please check out the lol thread in the NBA forum. You're welcome.

este wey :lol

[manufan10]

For any guests, please check out the lol thread in the NBA forum. You're welcome.

Here, I'll help them out. Go to this link:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175871

[The Reckoning]

For any guests, please check out the lol thread in the NBA forum. You're welcome.


:lmao

there goes any credibility

[Mal]

The write-ups are great. No wonder someone used it.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Wow, haven't seen guest counts like that since TP and the Textgate Scandal.

[Mal]

Since there are some many guest, just put some advert :)

[Em-City]

somebody should also check this article for possible content-jacking:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nbascouts/post/_/id/993/scouting-report-spurs-vs-jazz

[Mr.Nate]

Deadspin article now over 10k veiws.

[icango]

:lmao

Should I send ESPN a cease and desist letter?
:rollin

[silverblk mystix]

Well John Carroll tried plagiarizing the San Antonio Express News but only Buck Harvey's articles made any sense so he went up the chain.

[J.T.]

OP deserves Bold and a spur for breaking this tbqmfh

[spursfan09]

Wow this is crazy. Plus goes to show how lazy their spurs coverage is. Someone thought that they can just take the thoughts of an actual spurs fan from a spurs board and nobody would notice? I mean there are fans from all over the world here!

[urunobili]

timvp should work for espn

This

[TwelveGs210]

So four posts in, this guy has pretty much guaranteed BNSF status by tomorrow..

[easjer]

So this thread is like a vintage ST post. Look who all has come out of the woodwork and with some classic takes.

On topic, what the fuck? Journalism 101, kids. Don't steal other people's works, at least not without appropriate citation. Didn't we learn what plagiarism was in high school and college?

[ashbeeigh]

Wow. I'm not reading all of this, but wow.

[John Carroll]

Uh oh, the troll has been activated..


Threads: 184,454, Posts: 5,709,812, Members: 25,891
Welcome to our newest member, I R John Caroll

:lol

I was here first. That guy is copying me.

[Killakobe81]

:lol espn
:lol making people pay for "insider" to read timvp's analysis.

Most of those guys arent any better then the best posters on here or LG (which mostly sucks but the best posters there rival the ones here).

The ESPN writers just have ... the sports GIANT behind them besides simmons most of their basketball guys suck.

[Seventyniner]

John Caroll just needs to start copying every one of timvp's posts.

[ColinB]

Not really surprised. Good find, OP.

[JMarkJohns]

John Caroll just needs to start copying every one of timvp's posts.

That would be very funny for about a week... :lol

[leemajors]

ESPN is on a hot streak with this and the Sarah Philips shit

[Kuestmaster]

Timvp is a trend setter.
He sets trends

[Bulwark]

timvp's pen name is John Carroll on ESPN. Now we know.

lol

[SpursRock20]

Link to the article is not working. Did ESPN take it down?

[Mr.Nate]

Article has been taken down

[Spurtacus]

lmfao

[Despot]

There is an update to the deadspin story, with a comment from espn

[Spurtacus]

There is an update to the deadspin story, with a comment from espn

Update, 11 p.m.: The statement from ESPN: "We have removed the story while we review the situation."

[Kori Ellis]

Update, 11 p.m.: The statement from ESPN: "We have removed the story while we review the situation."

:downspin:

[Despot]

I'm no Pinoy Pounder (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7), but ripping off someone else's work, verbatim or not, and not giving proper attribution is a breach of the first rule of journalist ethics.


I saiddddd I said I said I said

I hesitate to call most of the former coaches, players, etc. at ESPN journalists

[jack sommerset]

Im praying the article is just a coincidence. God bless

"Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, declares the Lord, who steal my words from one another."

[G-Nob]

Update, 11 p.m.: The statement from ESPN: "We have removed the story while we review the situation."

Can't think there won't be any casualties after this.

[Despot]

I didn't call nobody nothing. I was jess sayin

I am agreeing with you, as to why they do not follow common ethics for journalists

[Cant_Be_Faded]

ahhh sweet, loveable, white, wrinkly, video game legend corso

:lmao

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I'm no Pinoy Pounder (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7), but ripping off someone else's work, verbatim or not, and not giving proper attribution is a breach of the first rule of journalist ethics.


I saiddddd I said I said I said

Roflroflroflrofl holy shit, 3cc is on fire

[Spurtacus]

Deadspin still has this as their front page article.

[polandprzem]

How close ESPN was to make Spurs- Grizzlies prediction?


Very very close !

[Assman]

Cliff notes?

[GSH]

Update, 11 p.m.: The statement from ESPN: "We have removed the story while we review the situation."

I see a Beer Summit in LJ's future.

[Red Hawk #21]

Just read the whole thread. What Carroll did was pure theft. At least if you're going to steal shit take the time out to reword it properly. Epic Fail.

[DMC]

Here's a brief synopsis for those of you who are all tl;dr.

TimVP is like "Spurs check it" and ESPN is like "dude we need a story" and John Carroll is all like "Ok, Spurs, check it out" and TimVP was like "wait, wut" and then ST was like "lol wut" and deadspin was like "wow wut check it" and then ESPN was like "uh... wait" and that's how we got here.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Interesting thread.

I fucking hate credit-stealing arseholes, and they abound in all walks of life. Is giving the credit that is deserved by the person who did the work really so hard? :pctoss :ihit

[thispego]

Here's a brief synopsis for those of you who are all tl;dr.

TimVP is like "Spurs check it" and ESPN is like "dude we need a story" and John Carroll is all like "Ok, Spurs, check it out" and TimVP was like "wait, wut" and then ST was like "lol wut" and deadspin was like "wow wut check it" and then ESPN was like "uh... wait" and that's how we got here.

:rolleyes

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Here's a brief synopsis for those of you who are all tl;dr.

TimVP is like "Spurs check it" and ESPN is like "dude we need a story" and John Carroll is all like "Ok, Spurs, check it out" and TimVP was like "wait, wut" and then ST was like "lol wut" and deadspin was like "wow wut check it" and then ESPN was like "uh... wait" and that's how we got here.

And I was like :lmao

:lmao

[Brazil]

I was without internet today ! I just checking that thread wow ! Carrol with the very bads tbh.

:tu for the OP !!

[SpursNextRomanEmpire]

Wow

[Slutter McGee]

All due respect to Kori and Timvp for not wanting this guy fired...but,

Whatever asshole wrote this should not only be fired, but he should be castrated. His testicles should be dipped in honey, and he should be forced to eat them. Slowly.

Sincerely,

Slutter McGee

[NASpurs]

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/tp5eg/my_brother_got_plagiarized_former_nba_coach/

"My brother"? "mellis5"? "LJ Ellis"?

Tell your bro we say sup and why doesn't he post here... unless he's incognito.

[RGMCSE]

Watching Sports Center right now and Neil Everrett doing the highlights was clowning...

"This is the cliff notes version of the Clipper/Spurs game"

"If the Clippers are gonna steal this series then Chris Paul is gonna have to be the big thief"


:lol

[024]

i'm actually quite impressed with carroll's ability to expertly reword timvp's analysis. it would definitely pass turnitin.com.

[Danny.Zhu]

:lol

[Sean Cagney]

LOL REMOVE That stupid story! Pay real people to make series notes like LJ who got ripped off but doesn't get a dime for it! ESPN once again a JOKE. BSPN.

[SA210]

Just amazing :lol

[The Reckoning]

Watching Sports Center right now and Neil Everrett doing the highlights was clowning...

"This is the cliff notes version of the Clipper/Spurs game"

"If the Clippers are gonna steal this series then Chris Paul is gonna have to be the big thief"


:lol


:lmao :lmao :lmao

[MI21]

:lol @ this guy. Horrible.

Having spent time as a journalist, this is cardinal sin #1.

This is extremely lazy and sneaky, akin to somebody claiming to be selling real art when it is fact a knock off of the original.

[The Reckoning]

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/tp5eg/my_brother_got_plagiarized_former_nba_coach/

"My brother"? "mellis5"? "LJ Ellis"?

Tell your bro we say sup and why doesn't he post here... unless he's incognito.


"a poolside pic with manu his rookie year"


:lmao:lmao:lmao

Timvp we need reverification. i totally forgot about that.

[Kori Ellis]

"a poolside pic with manu his rookie year"


:lmao:lmao:lmao

Timvp we need reverification. i totally forgot about that.

Same brother. He's 19 now.

[senorglory]

Don't use this as an excuse for your Jewiness, tbh.

edit please. :nope

[007nites]

:lol

[G-Dawgg]

maybe timvp copied him?

:lol

[biskvito]

If the accusations ring true, he's crafty as hell, I'll give him that. He went all over re-writing every sentence.

[desflood]

Day late and a dollar short, but I retweeted for my whole 5 or so followers :lol

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao Jaffies on reddit.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Lol Johnny blaze starring as the pinoy pounder, crofl crofl

[Cant_Be_Faded]

http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/tp5eg/my_brother_got_plagiarized_former_nba_coach/

"My brother"? "mellis5"? "LJ Ellis"?

Tell your bro we say sup and why doesn't he post here... unless he's incognito.

Lol Ellis the younger is a very energetic gamer

[velik_m]

If the accusations ring true, he's crafty as hell, I'll give him that. He went all over re-writing every sentence.

But not very smart. Did he think that no one on the message board obsessed with spurs will NOT read his article about spurs?

[G-Nob]

Another Timvp theft IMO...

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/notebook/_/page/lobcityledger-120515/los-angeles-clippers-san-antonio-spurs

[210Max]

That's why we're the illest trillest board in the world

[J.T.]

Zack Morris tbh

[210Max]

http://www.the-coli.com/images/smilies/gladbron.png he's such a hunk

[DMC]

So, to finish the summary: the OP basically created a situation where the only ESPN article featuring the Spurs was removed by ESPN.

ESPN "Oh, Spurs? Sure, we'll take it down pending investigation, and we might as well take all Spurs related material down just to be safe... this could take a few months to settle".

CIA ESPN

Obijuan = ESPN CEO

[suitedkings]

Anything ever come of this other than ESPN removing the article?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Anything ever come of this other than ESPN removing the article?

I'm curious myself. What a fiasco :lol

[timvp]

Nothing official has happened yet.