Birthers may have been right.

[Yonivore]

The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii' (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii)


Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.
One would assume Obama had the opportunity to proof the copy before his agent published the pamphlet.

Can't wait to hear this explanation.

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

yoni is a cracker for birtherism.

[ChumpDumper]

And the explanation was in the article you didn't read.

[TeyshaBlue]

http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[z0sa]

Can we give this shit up already?

[greyforest]

the truth of the matter is no one's ever going to figure out where obama was born, nor does it matter because he was vetted for presidency and voted in to that office

[George Gervin's Afro]

I'm still waiting for the Iraqi documents to be translated so we can find those wmds

[fraga]

http://homerecording.com/bbs/images/smilies/facepalm.gif

[boutons_deux]

I'm still waiting for the Iraqi documents to be translated so we can find those wmds

dammit, they're all in Syria

[clambake]

you gotta stop teasing darrin like this.

[DarrinS]

you gotta stop teasing darrin like this.

You and RG need to stop misrepresenting me.

[Winehole23]

no longer a valid question, in your opinion?

[Wild Cobra]

Can we give this shit up already?
Why?

Both sides play at dirty politics. You expect the right to be nice while the left continues to play dirty?

[TeyshaBlue]

Why?

Both sides play at dirty politics. You expect the right to be nice while the left continues to play dirty?

"They did it first!" was hardly a compelling defense in the 2nd grade. It hasn't grown in effectiveness over the years.:rolleyes

[z0sa]

Why?

Both sides play at dirty politics. You expect the right to be nice while the left continues to play dirty?

This isn't dirty politics. It's mere ignorance with a dose of stupidity.

[clambake]

"They did it first!" was hardly a compelling defense in the 2nd grade. It hasn't grown in effectiveness over the years.:rolleyes

be nice. maybe he's not in the 2nd grade yet.

[TeyshaBlue]

Willful ignorance with buckets of stupidity.

[Blake]

Why?

Both sides play at dirty politics. You expect the right to be nice while the left continues to play dirty?

you just continue to play stupid

[z0sa]

Willful ignorance with buckets of stupidity.

:lol

[DarrinS]

no longer a valid question, in your opinion?


I have never been a birther.

[clambake]

I have never been a birther.

:lmao

[Wild Cobra]

you just continue to play stupid

Yes, I "play stupid" at times to make a point. At least I'm not actually stupid, like you.

[Blake]

Yes, I "play stupid" at times to make a point. At least I'm not actually stupid, like you.

What point are you making by playing stupid in this thread?

[Wild Cobra]

What point are you making by playing stupid in this thread?
I didn't say i was playing stupid here, did I?

I was just giving a general response to your stupid accusation.

Must you continue? Must you always make thing personal about me?

I wish you faggots would stop obsessing over me.

[DarrinS]

:lmao

:flipoff

[TeyshaBlue]

:flipoff

I love that emoticon.

[ChumpDumper]

Birthers are sensitive about being called birthers.

[Blake]

I didn't say i was playing stupid here, did I?


I didn't really think you were playing.

Thanks for confirming your stupidity in this thread is authentic.

[boutons_deux]

Here's another Pussy Eater favorite, and a right-wing billionaire trying to resurrect it

Billionaire tied to Wright ad blitz a rising force

Obama's 2008 rival, Sen. John McCain, mostly steered clear of the topic and aides to Mitt Romney quickly repudiated the tactic on Thursday, leading Ricketts to torpedo the plan.

http://mobile.sfgate.com/sfchron/db_41687/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Dev5kxiS&full=true#display

[DarrinS]

Here's another Pussy Eater favorite, and a right-wing billionaire trying to resurrect it

Billionaire tied to Wright ad blitz a rising force

Obama's 2008 rival, Sen. John McCain, mostly steered clear of the topic and aides to Mitt Romney quickly repudiated the tactic on Thursday, leading Ricketts to torpedo the plan.

http://mobile.sfgate.com/sfchron/db_41687/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Dev5kxiS&full=true#display



Man, that was random

[boutons_deux]

Hadn't heard about J Wright for 4 years.

[boutons_deux]

pissy eater has a lot random rat shit topics

[TeyshaBlue]

Ok. That's just weird.

[DarrinS]

Birthers are sensitive about being called birthers.


most people are sensitive to being lied about

[TheSkeptic]

So many topics to disagree with Obama on and this is what they come up with? :bang

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't really think you were playing.

:lol

[leemajors]

Willful ignorance with buckets of stupidity.

:tu

[Yonivore]

Can we give this shit up already?
They ran the bio from 1992 to 2007.

Romney cut some kids hair, in high school, 48 years ago.

One, if true, disqualifies Obama from holding the office of President. Why is the other important?

[Blake]

They ran the bio from 1992 to 2007.

Romney cut some kids hair, in high school, 48 years ago.

One, if true, disqualifies Obama from holding the office of President. Why is the other important?

You didn't read the entire article you posted.

[MannyIsGod]

"They did it first!" was hardly a compelling defense in the 2nd grade. It hasn't grown in effectiveness over the years.:rolleyes

WC decided to get out before the indoctrination got that far.

[Yonivore]

You didn't read the entire article you posted.
What salient factoid was missed?

Were they the literary agent for Barack Obama at the time the brochure was produced?

Was the brochure published at the time claimed?

Does the Obama biography, in the brochure, claim he was born in Kenya?

[Blake]

What salient factoid was missed?

Were they the literary agent for Barack Obama at the time the brochure was produced?

Was the brochure published at the time claimed?

Does the Obama biography, in the brochure, claim he was born in Kenya?


The errant Obama biography in the Acton & Dystel booklet does not contradict the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate. Moreover, several contemporaneous accounts of Obama’s background describe Obama as having been born in Hawaii.

You suck

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

[Wild Cobra]

I can just see it now being in commercials before the November elections. I wonder what impact it will have with voters?

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Yonivore... nevermind

[ChumpDumper]

What salient factoid was missed?:rollin

[Fabbs]

I can just see it now being in commercials before the November elections. I wonder what impact it will have with voters?
Since the number of voters not born in the U.S. has steadily risen I'm not sure Bubba Repug Strategist wants to keep harping on this.

Seems like rigged voting machines would be the way to go again. :toast

[Yonivore]

You suck


The biography does, however, fit a pattern in which Obama--or the people representing and supporting him--manipulate his public persona.
I think he has some 'splainin' to do.

And, there is other evidence that contradicts the authenticity of the Birth Certificate the White House posted in .pdf.

[ChumpDumper]

I think he has some 'splainin' to do.Nah.


And, there is other evidence that contradicts the authenticity of the Birth Certificate the White House posted in .pdf.What evidence is that, cracker birther?

[fraga]

I think he has some 'splainin' to do.

And, there is other evidence that contradicts the authenticity of the Birth Certificate the White House posted in .pdf.

OMG give up on the .pdf bullshit...that's already been explained by an Illustrator expert ON FOX NEWS...good god...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I can just see it now being in commercials before the November elections. I wonder what impact it will have with voters?

The people that would agree with it already think it and for the rest of us trying the tactic again is doubtful to get votes. Quite the contrary.

That's why the guys who are actually running for president distance themselves from it. They, unlike you, are not willfully ignorant MRs.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao Yoni doubling down on birther stupidity. Don't know why he talked about the Birthers in the OP as if they were different considering he's obviously one of them.

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

Let's look at the truth, instead of trying to dismiss the opposition as "birthers" or blinded Obama supporters, which is simply an ad hominem attack.


If Obama was born in Kenya, he was born in Kenya. If he wasn't, he wasn't. Let's look at the facts instead of trying to discredit the opposition.

[ChumpDumper]

Let's look at the truth, instead of trying to dismiss the opposition as "birthers" or blinded Obama supporters, which is simply an ad hominem attack.


If Obama was born in Kenya, he was born in Kenya. If he wasn't, he wasn't. Let's look at the facts instead of trying to discredit the opposition.He wasn't born in Kenya.

Fact.

[ChumpDumper]

^:lmao

ain't no secret the kenyan nigga scammed us all tbh, you all just too dumb to realize it tbhWhat is your evidence of this?

[TheSkeptic]

Even if he was born in Kenya doesn't his mother give him US citizenship?

[Wild Cobra]

Since the number of voters not born in the U.S. has steadily risen I'm not sure Bubba Repug Strategist wants to keep harping on this.

Seems like rigged voting machines would be the way to go again. :toast
Yep.

Kerry would have won Ohio if they had enough more electronic voting machines in 2004.

[ChumpDumper]

in order to be eligible for president of the United States you have to be born in the United States per the constitution.Wrong.

[Winehole23]

John McCain was born on August 29, 1936, at Coco Solo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coco_Solo) Naval Air Station in the Panama Canal Zone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal_Zone), to naval officer John S. McCain, Jr. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._McCain,_Jr.) (1911–1981) and Roberta (Wright) McCain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberta_McCain) (b. 1912).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#cite_note-timberg-bio-ch1-1) At that time, the Panama Canal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Canal) was under U.S. control.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain#cite_note-2)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain

[mavs>spurs]

Wrong.

and just how the hell do you figure?

[TheSkeptic]

Well that answers that I guess. Does it even matter though? I thought they produced a long form birth certificate stating he was born in Hawaii.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This is not hard people


The President must be a natural born citizen of the United States or a citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, at least 35 years old and a resident of the United States for at least 14 years.

Point to me where it says you have to be born in the US. If you say naturalized, you are wrong.

[ChumpDumper]

and just how the hell do you figure?Winehole just showed you.

Also the Supreme Court and Congress.

[mavs>spurs]

what the hell is a natural born citizen then?

[mavs>spurs]

must be a natural born citizen of the United States

OR

a citizen at the time of the adoption of the Constitution.

I don't think the 2nd one applies seeing how no one is alive anymore who was around at the time of the adoption of the Constitution.

[ElNono]

This shit again?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't thinkFortunately, other people have.

[mavs>spurs]

.

[Oh, Gee!!]

what the hell is a natural born citizen then?

what about c-section births?

[RandomGuy]

The Vetting - Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii' (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/The-Vetting-Barack-Obama-Literary-Agent-1991-Born-in-Kenya-Raised-Indonesia-Hawaii)


One would assume Obama had the opportunity to proof the copy before his agent published the pamphlet.

Can't wait to hear this explanation.

:lmao

You can't wait to read the explanation in the article you posted? (it's in there)

:lol

[Yonivore]

You can't wait to read the explanation in the article you posted? (it's in there)

:lol
Where'd they get the idea Obama was born in Kenya?

I know they're claiming it was a mistake but a mistake means you make a typo, get a date wrong, misspell the author's name, or some other fact.

I know you're not interested but, that literary agent's submission policies have been posted online already and, according to the rules in 1991, the AUTHOR wrote and submitted their own biography in third person.

Other literary agents and authors have already ridiculed this "mistake" explanation as being ludicrous to anyone familiar with how such pamphlets are derived.

Also, the biography was reproduced for as long as Obama was represented by them for whatever project warranted -- not once was the biography corrected nor is there any indication Obama asked for a correction.

I would think a press curious enough to run the Seamus saga for days and to try and make a case for Romney being a bully out of an 48-year old incident would be similarly curious about something this, well, curious.

Either Obama was born in Kenya -- as is claimed in a biography he submitted -- or he's a pathological liar that claimed he was born in Kenya for some reason that suited him at the time.

[z0sa]

They ran the bio from 1992 to 2007.

Romney cut some kids hair, in high school, 48 years ago.

One, if true, disqualifies Obama from holding the office of President. Why is the other important?

The birth certificate has been confirmed. Random editor can say anything he wants - we already know the facts.

As for Mitt Romney bashing, that is a little closer to the dirty politics side. A little.

[Yonivore]

Here's a theory:

The Mystery of the Kenyan Birth (http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2012/05/18/the-mystery-of-the-kenyan-birth/?singlepage=true)

It pretty much asks the same question; "...why did Obama’s agents think he was born in Kenya?"

[clambake]

nice bubba website.

[Blake]

Either Obama was born in Kenya -- as is claimed in a biography he submitted -- or he's a pathological liar that claimed he was born in Kenya for some reason that suited him at the time.

When exactly has Obama claimed he was born in Kenya?

You are pathologically disingenuous

[Yonivore]

When exactly has Obama claimed he was born in Kenya?
For 17 years in the bio published by his literary agent.


You are pathologically disingenuous
No. But, in any case, I'm not President of the United States.

[ChumpDumper]

Here's a theory:Fuck that.

What is your theory?

I fully expect you to employ all the stalling tactics of Nbadan and other truthers.

[Blake]

No.

Yes you are.


Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/born-kenya-obamas-literary-agent-misidentified-birthplace-1991/story?id=16372566

You suck again

[George Gervin's Afro]

Where'd they get the idea Obama was born in Kenya?

I know they're claiming it was a mistake but a mistake means you make a typo, get a date wrong, misspell the author's name, or some other fact.

I know you're not interested but, that literary agent's submission policies have been posted online already and, according to the rules in 1991, the AUTHOR wrote and submitted their own biography in third person.

Other literary agents and authors have already ridiculed this "mistake" explanation as being ludicrous to anyone familiar with how such pamphlets are derived.

Also, the biography was reproduced for as long as Obama was represented by them for whatever project warranted -- not once was the biography corrected nor is there any indication Obama asked for a correction.

I would think a press curious enough to run the Seamus saga for days and to try and make a case for Romney being a bully out of an 48-year old incident would be similarly curious about something this, well, curious.

Either Obama was born in Kenya -- as is claimed in a biography he submitted -- or he's a pathological liar that claimed he was born in Kenya for some reason that suited him at the time.

Thye admitted it was a mistake... they have clearly stated it was a mistake.. but you assign motives and make things up as you go along so it's not surprising that you are ignoring the admission..

[RandomGuy]

Fuck that.

What is your theory[, Yonivore]?

I fully expect you to employ all the stalling tactics of Nbadan and other truthers.

Here is a theory:

He doesn't really believe this bullshit for a second, and is merely cynically implying this, to give ammunition to people he probably considers "useful idiots".

Yonivore's probable motivation is just about anything he posts is to create an atmophere hostile and poisonous to those he regards as harmful to America, i.e. liberals and Democrats.

He generally believes that the majority of people on the other end of the political spectrum from him are moronic scumbags, and out to inadvertently or even actively destroy the country.

To fight this, he counters his perception of that belief system "by any means necessary".

This includes, but is not limited to threads just like this that are cynical attempts to manipulate others, in a manner not unlike your average sociopath.

That is just a theory.

Notice I didn't say it was my theory.

[Wild Cobra]

My God. Why can't you guys accept that Obama lied? It's not like he's the first president to ever lie.

[ChumpDumper]

My God. Why can't you guys accept that Obama lied? It's not like he's the first president to ever lie.There's no proof he lied about this.

[Poptech]

I'm still waiting for the Iraqi documents to be translated so we can find those wmds
Hundreds of WMDs were found in Iraq,

Botulinum bacteria found in Iraq (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/04/1064988441863.html) (The Age, Australia, October 4, 2003)
IAEA confirms yellowcake found in Rotterdam likely from Iraq (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-01-16-netherlands_x.htm) (USA Today, January 16, 2004)
Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html) (Fox News, May 17, 2004)
Tests Confirm Sarin in Iraqi Artillery Shell (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120268,00.html) (Fox News, May 19, 2004)
U.N. experts find 20 banned Iraqi engines in Jordan (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-06-09-iraqi-missiles_x.htm) (USA Today, June 9, 2004)
Iraqi WMD Components Found in Rotterdam Scrapyard (http://archives.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?922dae96-ab73-424c-b13e-24e05039ce9f) (Hawaii Reporter, June 18, 2004)
Polish Troops Find Sarin Warheads (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-07-01-poland-iraq-sarin_x.htm) (USA Today, July 1, 2004)
U.S. removed nuclear material from Iraq (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/07/iraq.nuclear/) (CNN, July 7, 2004)
US reveals Iraq nuclear operation (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3872201.stm) (BBC, July 7, 2004)
Iraqi Chemical Stash Uncovered (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html) (The Washington Post, August 15, 2005)
Hundreds of WMDs Discovered in Iraq (http://www.wnd.com/2006/06/36714/) (WND, June 21, 2006)
Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918) (U.S. Department of Defense, June 29, 2006)

[xrayzebra]

AP Report

Sunday, June 27, 2004


Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative.

Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans.


nh-obama.jpg (12114 bytes)
Barrack Obama

"It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play."

Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records.

The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke.

"I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody."

The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star.

The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate.

"Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said.

As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."

—AP



Damn funny how all this stuff is showing up now. But who gives a crap,
just get him out of office.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,134625,00.html

That they found a shell with traces or shit in other countries is besides the point. The stockpiles that were claimed to have existed didn't and had been gotten rid of following the initial Iraq-US conflict.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Damn funny how all this stuff is showing up now. But who gives a crap,
just get him out of office.

Showing up now? Whats the date on your article? Like this hasn't all been hashed out before.

[Poptech]

That they found a shell with traces or shit in other countries is besides the point. The stockpiles that were claimed to have existed didn't and had been gotten rid of following the initial Iraq-US conflict.
No they found over 500 WMD munitions in Iraq,

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918) (U.S. Department of Defense, June 29, 2006)

It is an irrefutable fact that WMDs were found in Iraq.

Are you an Iraq WMD denialist?

[ChumpDumper]

When we didn’t find weapons I felt terrible about it, sick about it and still do, because a lot of the case in removing Saddam Hussein was based upon weapons of mass destruction.

[Poptech]

It is an irrefutable fact that WMDs were found in Iraq,

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918) (U.S. Department of Defense, June 29, 2006)

Are you an Iraq WMD denialist Chump?

[ChumpDumper]

Bush said we didn't find any.

Why would he lie?

I know why you would lie....

Drugs.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

From the loons own link


The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, Chu added.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Saddam didn't even know where these duds were.
I do believe the former regime did a very poor job of accountability of munitions

[Poptech]

Nice cherry picking,

The munitions addressed in the report were produced in the 1980s, Maples said. Badly corroded, they could not currently be used as originally intended, Chu added.

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918) (U.S. Department of Defense, June 29, 2006)

The 500 munitions discovered throughout Iraq since 2003 and discussed in a National Ground Intelligence Center report meet the criteria of weapons of mass destruction, the center's commander said here today.

"These are chemical weapons as defined under the Chemical Weapons Convention, and yes ... they do constitute weapons of mass destruction," Army Col. John Chu told the House Armed Services Committee.

The Chemical Weapons Convention is an arms control agreement which outlaws the production, stockpiling and use of chemical weapons. It was signed in 1993 and entered into force in 1997.

The munitions found contain sarin and mustard gases, Army Lt. Gen. Michael D. Maples, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, said. Sarin attacks the neurological system and is potentially lethal.

"Mustard is a blister agent (that) actually produces burning of any area (where) an individual may come in contact with the agent," he said. It also is potentially fatal if it gets into a person's lungs.

[...]

...the agent remaining in the weapons would be very valuable to terrorists and insurgents, Maples said. "We're talking chemical agents here that could be packaged in a different format and have a great effect," he said, referencing the sarin-gas attack on a Japanese subway in the mid-1990s.

This is true even considering any degradation of the chemical agents that may have occurred, Chu said. It's not known exactly how sarin breaks down, but no matter how degraded the agent is, it's still toxic.

"Regardless of (how much material in the weapon is actually chemical agent), any remaining agent is toxic," he said. "Anything above zero (percent agent) would prove to be toxic, and if you were exposed to it long enough, lethal."

Though about 500 chemical weapons - the exact number has not been released publicly - have been found, Maples said he doesn't believe Iraq is a "WMD-free zone."

"I do believe the former regime did a very poor job of accountability of munitions, and certainly did not document the destruction of munitions," he said. "The recovery program goes on, and I do not believe we have found all the weapons."
Are you volunteering to test their lethality? Maybe we should give then to children to play with as they are obviously harmless?

Are you an Iraq WMD denialist?

[Poptech]

Bush said we didn't find any.

Why would he lie?
Were WMDs found in Iraq?

[spursncowboys]

Hundreds of WMDs were found in Iraq,

Botulinum bacteria found in Iraq (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/04/1064988441863.html) (The Age, Australia, October 4, 2003)
IAEA confirms yellowcake found in Rotterdam likely from Iraq (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-01-16-netherlands_x.htm) (USA Today, January 16, 2004)
Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html) (Fox News, May 17, 2004)
Tests Confirm Sarin in Iraqi Artillery Shell (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120268,00.html) (Fox News, May 19, 2004)
U.N. experts find 20 banned Iraqi engines in Jordan (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-06-09-iraqi-missiles_x.htm) (USA Today, June 9, 2004)
Iraqi WMD Components Found in Rotterdam Scrapyard (http://archives.hawaiireporter.com/story.aspx?922dae96-ab73-424c-b13e-24e05039ce9f) (Hawaii Reporter, June 18, 2004)
Polish Troops Find Sarin Warheads (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-07-01-poland-iraq-sarin_x.htm) (USA Today, July 1, 2004)
U.S. removed nuclear material from Iraq (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/07/07/iraq.nuclear/) (CNN, July 7, 2004)
US reveals Iraq nuclear operation (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3872201.stm) (BBC, July 7, 2004)
Iraqi Chemical Stash Uncovered (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/13/AR2005081300530.html) (The Washington Post, August 15, 2005)
Hundreds of WMDs Discovered in Iraq (http://www.wnd.com/2006/06/36714/) (WND, June 21, 2006)
Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918) (U.S. Department of Defense, June 29, 2006)
Wow he really did the "where are WMD's"? LMAO

In 2012?

[spursncowboys]

Who's the first one that's going to zing someone with "Nixon lied..."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If anyone has been paying attention in the other thread about the disorder that Poptech claims to have. This is another example of failing to understand the concept of degrees or nuance. It meets his definition so therefor it is absolute and irrefutable in his broken mind.

[spursncowboys]

Fuzzy: meanwhile you are still off topic. Does that meet your etiquette standard?

[Poptech]

This is another example of failing to understand the concept of degrees or nuance. It meets his definition so therefor it is absolute and irrefutable in his broken mind.
I understand degrees and nuance very well. I also understand the lies about no WMDs being found in Iraq, those comments are not "nuanced".

Were WMDs found in Iraq?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy: meanwhile you are still off topic. Does that meet your etiquette standard?

Sure but starting redundant threads does not. Birthing threads bore me. Sorry about that.

[spursncowboys]

Sure but starting redundant threads does not. Birthing threads bore me. Sorry about that.

So if you don't find a discussion interesting, you try to end discussion? Interesting.

[mavs>spurs]

you guys like chump who support the govt story hands down no questions asked are disgusting sycophants

":cry if there isn't any proof on the official govts website or in the govt controlled media then it just can't be true :cry"

[ChumpDumper]

you guys like chump who support the govt story hands down no questions asked are disgusting sycophants

":cry if there isn't any proof on the official govts website or in the govt controlled media then it just can't be true :cry"What are you whining about now?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So if you don't find a discussion interesting, you try to end discussion? Interesting.

No it means that I will talk about something else. Me talking about WMD does not stop you from talking about the same birther stuff that's been rehashed ever since Obama announced his candidacy.

My thoughts should not dictate what you can or cannot talk about. Or at least I am not trying to make that so.

[ChumpDumper]

Were WMDs found in Iraq?Nope.
When we didn’t find weapons I felt terrible about it, sick about it and still do, because a lot of the case in removing Saddam Hussein was based upon weapons of mass destruction.A bunch of expired duds were found.

[Poptech]

Nope.

A bunch of expired duds were found.
That is a lie,

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918) (U.S. Department of Defense, June 29, 2006)

[Wild Cobra]

Poptech.

What we found is technically WMD, but it isn't we we were looking for. Since I like things in context, here is the interview:

3Q8JwsuLD_E

This link jumps to the question and his answer in that interview on the WMD:

WMD qustion (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q8JwsuLD_E&t=17m04s)

[mavs>spurs]

What are you whining about now?

It's just fitting that you'd fight so hard for the notion that Obama was born in Hawaii whenever then man reeks of shadiness and also his actions

[ChumpDumper]

It's just fitting that you'd fight so hard for the notion that Obama was born in Hawaii whenever then man reeks of shadiness and also his actionsIt's fitting that you would whine about nothing and have nothing to back it up.

[ChumpDumper]

That is a lie,

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918) (U.S. Department of Defense, June 29, 2006)The official said it was a bunch of expired duds.

Thanks for repeating it for me.

[Poptech]

The official said it was a bunch of expired duds.

Thanks for repeating it for me.
Quote and cite where it said they were duds and no longer dangerous.

[Poptech]

What we found is technically WMD, but it isn't we we were looking for.
No it is not "technically" it is 100% irrefutable that WMDs were found. I am fully aware of what Bush wanted to find in shiny new cases stamped "IRAQ WMDS manufactured 2002". Instead over 500 still-lethal WMD munitions were found from older stockpiles. These are not children's toys. The idiots on these boards joke about them as if they are harmless, why don't they volunteer to test their lethality? How about having their children play with the "duds"?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Its already been quoted. Read the quoted portions of the article and see if you can figure it out. Look for words or phrases that fit the definition of dud.

[Poptech]

Its already been quoted. Read the quoted portions of the article and see if you can figure it out. Look for words or phrases that fit the definition of dud.
No it has not been quoted retard. Try learning how to read in full context and not cherry pick.

[ChumpDumper]

Quote and cite where it said they were duds and no longer dangerous.Quit lying about what I said, druggie.

You just lied, the evidence is irrefutable.

[Wild Cobra]

No it is not "technically" it is 100% irrefutable that WMDs were found. I am fully aware of what Bush wanted to find in shiny new cases stamped "IRAQ WMDS manufactured 2002". Instead over 500 still-lethal WMD munitions were found from older stockpiles. These are not children's toys. The idiots on these boards joke about them as if they are harmless, why don't they volunteer to test their lethality? How about having their children play with the "duds"?
This is true. Saddam still had some WMD that we found. It's not what was being sought after. Like I said, technically he still had it. It is still very possible the good stuff was hidden well, or moved to Syria.

We all need to accept the fact that they didn't find the more serious stuff.

Don't bother trying to budge the morons from their angle. It's just a waste of time. Some of us tried over and over in the past.

[Wild Cobra]

The official said it was a bunch of expired duds.

Thanks for repeating it for me.
Expired does not mean safe. It's still usable WMD. Just not as originally packaged.

[Wild Cobra]

Bush said we didn't find any.

Why would he lie?

I know why you would lie....

Drugs.
He never said any such think. Stop twisting the truth.

[ChumpDumper]

He never said any such think. Stop twisting the truth.
When we didn’t find weapons I felt terrible about it, sick about it and still do, because a lot of the case in removing Saddam Hussein was based upon weapons of mass destruction.
'No one was more shocked and angry than I was when we didn't find the weapons', he writes in the book. 'I had a sickening feeling every time I thought about it. I still do'.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326259/George-W-Bush-hits-Kanye-Wests-race-slur.html#ixzz1vJWv8xbP

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When I call you a loon or crazy or the like, its because of your admission that you have a axis 1 mental disorder. You can try and call me retarded but I do not meet that definition. If anything is retarded it would be you if you are indeed correct in your self diagnosis. If you indeed have aspergers that means your brain did not develop to be able to discern things like nuance, emotional cues and the like. It is a autism spectrum disorder.

As I said before a self admitted axis 1 disorder sufferer really shouldn't throw out insults such as retarded because that means that your brain did not develop normally and you lack the cognitive abilities that typical humans enjoy ie you are retarded. You like talking about definitions. Well that is the irrefutable definition according to the DSM.

[Creepn]

I don't understand how Wild Cobra and Poptech is refusing a statement that came straight from the horse's mouth.

[leemajors]

But is it ever right to go to war over sandwiches?

The Earl of Sandwich probably thinks so.

[Wild Cobra]

I don't understand how Wild Cobra and Poptech is refusing a statement that came straight from the horse's mouth.
Technicalities. Remember also, he answered to a question in the context of a passage out of his book. He probably didn't correct her.

They had nonfluctuating, but deadly WMD. The components could still be used. it was technically still WMD. There is no denying this.

They didn't find the "type" they were looking for. Everyone knows that.

We all know president Bush "misspeaks" on occasion. This is a silly thing to disagree with.

[ChumpDumper]

Technicalities. Remember also, he answered to a question in the context of a passage out of his book. He probably didn't correct her.

They had nonfluctuating, but deadly WMD. The components could still be used. it was technically still WMD. There is no denying this.

They didn't find the "type" they were looking for. Everyone knows that.

We all know president Bush "misspeaks" on occasion. This is a silly thing to disagree with.I quoted the book, idiot.

[Wild Cobra]

I quoted the book, idiot.
In full context?

No you didn't...

Liar...

You quoted a journalists who cherry picked out of the book.

I'll bet the context of the book mentions WMD that they did find, but wasn't what the were looking for.

Remember, they were focusing on active WMD.

[ChumpDumper]

No, I quoted the book.

I'm not going to quote the entire book because I don't have to.

Quit lying.

lol focusing

[Wild Cobra]

No, I quoted the book.

I'm not going to quote the entire book because I don't have to.

Quit lying.

lol focusing
Bye Chumpie.

I should have never got into this. I don't care if you care about the truth of not. What was found was extensively reported on.

[ChumpDumper]

Bye Chumpie.

I should have never got into this.Right, because you got caught lying again.

[Wild Cobra]

Right, because you got caught lying again.
No, because you are a relentless bullshit artist and relentless ass. i don't think anyone is more competent at being as ass in these forums than you. I'm pretty sure you hold first place there.

[ChumpDumper]

No, because you are a relentless bullshit artist and relentless ass. i don't think anyone is more competent at being as ass in these forums than you. I'm pretty sure you hold first place there.I quoted the book.

You lied.

[Poptech]

No, I quoted the book.
Yes, I am well aware that recently manufactured WMDs were not found this does not change the irrefutable fact that lethal WMDs were still found,

Tests Confirm Sarin in Iraqi Artillery Shell (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120268,00.html) (Fox News, May 19, 2004)

Tests on an artillery shell that blew up in Iraq on Saturday confirm that it did contain an estimated three or four liters of the deadly nerve agent sarin [...]

...two U.S. soldiers were treated for minor exposure to the nerve agent.

[...]

The soldiers displayed "classic" symptoms of sarin exposure, most notably dilated pupils and nausea, officials said. [...]

The munition found was a binary chemical shell, meaning it featured two chambers, each containing separate chemical compounds. Upon impact with the ground after the shell is fired, the barrier between the chambers is broken, the chemicals mix and sarin is created and dispersed.

Intelligence officials stressed that the compounds did not mix effectively on Saturday. Due to the detonation, burn-off and resulting spillage

Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says (http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918) (U.S. Department of Defense, June 29, 2006)

National Ground Intelligence Center Report: Iraqi Chemical Munitions (http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/dni/dni_ltr_wmd_21jun06.pdf) (PDF) (NGIC, June 21, 2006)

- Since 2003 Coalition forces have recovered approximately 500 weapons munitions which contain degraded mustard or sarin nerve agent.

- Despite many efforts to locate and destroy Iraq’s pre-Gulf War chemical munitions, filled and unfilled pre-Gulf War chemical munitions are assessed to still exist.

- Pre-Gulf War Iraqi chemical weapons could be sold on the black market. Use of these weapons by terrorists or insurgent groups would have implications for Coalition forces in Iraq. The possibility of use outside Iraq cannot be ruled out.

- The most likely munitions remaining are sarin and mustard-filled projectiles.

- The purity of the agent inside the munitions depends on many factors, including the manufacturing process, potential additives, and environmental storage conditions. While agents degrade over time, chemical warfare agents remain hazardous and potentially lethal.

- It has been reported in open press that insurgents and Iraqi groups desire to acquire and use chemical weapons.

[Poptech]

I don't understand how Wild Cobra and Poptech is refusing a statement that came straight from the horse's mouth.
More than 500 WMD Found in IRAQ Since 2003 (http://www.mrc.org/node/3154) (MRC, June 23, 2006)

"They are weapons of mass destruction. They are harmful to human beings. And they have been found."

- Donald Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, 2006

[ChumpDumper]

Wow.

Degraded duds.

Not even Bush is going to lie about them like you are. That is irrefutable evidence you are mentally ill.

lol harmful duds

lol dilated pupils

[spursncowboys]

Good job trolls. You turned an Obama mistake into an almost decade old discussion on WMD's in Iraq.

The only way this trolling could be one-upped is if Hitler gets brought up.

[jack sommerset]

In other news water is wet. God bless

[ChumpDumper]

Good job trolls. You turned an Obama mistake into an almost decade old discussion on WMD's in Iraq.Sorry, your topic redundantly sucked.


The only way this trolling could be one-upped is if Hitler gets brought up.You just brought him up.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I prefer Attila myself.

[spursncowboys]

Sorry, your topic redundantly sucked.

You just brought him up. Since this is all you do, all subjects must suck.

[ChumpDumper]

Since this is all you do, all subjects must suck.Not at all. It just so happens pretty much every thread you start is horrible. Don't get butthurt about it -- raise your game.

[George Gervin's Afro]

So the degraded 'wmds' (that we provided in the 80's) were dangerous because they were old and unstable..that's what you guys are hanging your hat own to prove wmds existed ? What happened to the bio mobile weapon labs.. dubya showed us pictures!

[spursncowboys]

Not at all. It just so happens pretty much every thread you start is horrible. Don't get butthurt about it -- raise your game.
to your stature?

[Goran Dragic]

Why?

Both sides play at dirty politics. You expect the right to be nice while the left continues to play dirty?
When the right claims to be the party representing family values and Jesus Christ, yes, that's exactly what I expect.

[spursncowboys]

So the degraded 'wmds' (that we provided in the 80's) were dangerous because they were old and unstable..that's what you guys are hanging your hat own to prove wmds existed ? What happened to the bio mobile weapon labs.. dubya showed us pictures!
We provided WMD's to Iraq?

[spursncowboys]

When the right claims to be the party representing family values and Jesus Christ, yes, that's exactly what I expect.
Didn't your professor teach you the basics?
Rule 1: Get elected
Rule 2: Get reelected

[spursncowboys]

The repubs are for family values as much as the democrats are for helping the poor and middle class.

[Goran Dragic]

Poptech and Wild Cobra,

Regarding the WMDs found that apparently George Bush doesn't know about yet, knowing that those were the only WMDs in Iraq, would you have still supported a War in Iraq in 2003?

[Goran Dragic]

Didn't your professor teach you the basics?
Rule 1: Get elected
Rule 2: Get reelected
rofl a condescending comment about the fact I'm more educated than you are is the official spursncowboys white flag.

:cryyou went to college, and college is teh devil!:cry

[spursncowboys]

to your stature?


rofl a condescending comment about the fact I'm more educated than you are is the official spursncowboys white flag.

:cryyou went to college, and college is teh devil!:cry

You are more educated than me? Could have fooled me.

Maybe you meant you have more pieces of paper with a college stamp on the top. Maybe. If your life goal is to not experience life and instead hide out in college collecting these papers, congrats. I, however, got that paper and moved on to the real world.

[Jacob1983]

What do these birther fuckers think they are going to accomplish? Do you honestly think that the powerful individuals that run America would ever let proof of this available to the public if it was indeed true? Besides, does anyone know what type of negative consequences and effects this would have on America and around the world? If it was proven that Obama was not born in America, who the fuck would be president? It would create chaos and race wars. Do you want that?

[Wild Cobra]

Poptech and Wild Cobra,

Regarding the WMDs found that apparently George Bush doesn't know about yet, knowing that those were the only WMDs in Iraq, would you have still supported a War in Iraq in 2003?
He knows.

I'll bet the context he answered that in was in functioning WMD, or in the nuclear they were looking for.

[Wild Cobra]

So....

Back on topic maybe?

There are so many reasons that congress should actually investigate this Birth Certificate issue.

How many think they don't, only because the left will cry racism, for a perfectly reasonable investigation?

[Winehole23]

what reasons?

[Wild Cobra]

what reasons?
Yesterday, I heard part of the "Mark and Dave" program on talk radio. they laid out seven distinct reasons that indicate he may not be born here. More than adequate probable cause to have congressional investigations. Don't ask me to remember what the individual items are, and I think at one time or another, all seven were discussed here.

Shit.

I'm on my fourth Inversion IPA right now.

OOppppps...

Just finished my fourth...

Going for the fifth!

[ChumpDumper]

lol Mark and Dave

lol seven distinct but utterly forgettable reasons

lol drinking alone

[Wild Cobra]

lol Mark and Dave

Not my favorite program. Have you heard of them? I'm surprised if you have. Maybe there is a different Mark and dave you are thinking of.

These two are a local Portland talk host team. They usually take on opposing sides of the things they talk about. Not my favorite by a long shot, but they are fun to listen to at times.

Mark and Dave Show (http://www.markanddaveshow.com/)

Mark and Dave Cult (http://www.1190kex.com/pages/cult.html)


lol seven distinct but utterly forgettable reasons

Did I say forgettable?

Serously. Congress hads investigated presidents for less.


lol drinking alone

Tonight, yes. You simply don't know the exceptionally unusual day I had, and don't ask. I'm not telling.

Besides...

It's fun to try to drink and drive... on Grand Turismo 5.

Damn... that Chaparral 2D Race car Sure loses grip from the rear end easy.

Only a three speed transmission as well.

Wish I could put a six speed in it.

[Blake]

Did I say forgettable?



Don't ask me to remember what the individual items are

You're such an idiot.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol

I didn't say they were forgettable -- I just forgot them.

I wish I could change parts on video game cars.

[Blake]

:lmao

He forgot that he forgot.

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

[MaNuMaNiAc]

such a fucking joke...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's important to keep in mind that post Civil Rights Act most of the old Democratic guard migrated to the GOP. They still behave in much the same way in trying to set up technical and institutional barriers. It should be little surprise that they try it again.

Poll taxes, district gerrymandering, Jim Crow, etc are all the progeny of that political entity. A black man becomes president: lets try and find an institutional barrier to remove him.

Let's be clear, I do not think that most of the people here in this thread if any fit amongst the elite from which such notions spring. It's much the same as the dynamic between the rich landowners vis-a-vis the sharecroppers and small farmers of the old south. They are just good minions parroting the same 'values.' You can see it in the rhetoric they mime.

[boutons_deux]

Sheriff Joe Arpaio Admits Using Taxpayer Funds To Pursue Birther Conspiracy Probe: ‘So What?’

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/SafariScreenSnapz003.png

ss on May 22, 2012 at 1:02 pm

In the year since President Obama released his long-form birth certificate, tax payers are partly-funding Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s investigation into whether or not the president was truly born in the United States.

The Arizona Republic and the Honolulu Star-Advertiser report that two men identifying themselves as Michael Zullo and Brian Mackiewcz arrived at the Hawaii Department of Health on Monday and requested verification of Obama’s birth. They left after a Hawaii deputy attorney provided them information on the legal requirements for obtaining that documentation. Zullo is a volunteer in Arpaio’s inquiry, but Mackiewcz provided a business card identifying him as a public employee who works in the Threats Management Unit of the sheriff’s office.

Arpaio, who has previously claimed that the investigation was being funded through private donations, dismissed concerns about tax dollars funding the conspiracy quest and said “he hopes the agency will be paid back through private donations”:

“It’s one deputy, so what? We have security issues, too, that I can’t got into,” Arpaio said on Friday. “For six months we were not spending any money. When you’re doing investigations sometimes things change, you put more resources into it.”

“He’s not going to make any arrests,” Arpaio said. “I didn’t say we’re going to keep using him. We’re not going to use him constantly. He’s not assigned to it. For this trip I feel it’s important to have a deputy there. He’s just a liaison to give advice if needed. He’s not doing anything. The posse’s been doing the research. I’m not going to say what other trips they’ve been taking but they haven’t had a deputy with them.”

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/05/22/488323/sheriff-joe-arpaio-uses-taxpayer-funds-to-pursue-birther-conspiracy-probe/

[ducks]

oh no tax payers money for actually something usefully
instead overspending on things the gov does not need
we all the gov agency has to spend every dime it gets because if they do not they lose it and not get more incase they need it later

[Blake]

ducks just as strangest as ever
weird

[ChumpDumper]

oh no tax payers money for actually something usefully
instead overspending on things the gov does not need
we all the gov agency has to spend every dime it gets because if they do not they lose it and not get more incase they need it laterYou think Arpaio's "investigation" of Obama's birth certificate is something usefully?

[Wild Cobra]

You think Arpaio's "investigation" of Obama's birth certificate is something usefully?

More useful than congress investigating steroid usage.

[ChumpDumper]

More useful than congress investigating steroid usage.So you are saying his investigation has merit?

Yes or no.

[Wild Cobra]

So you are saying his investigation has merit?

Yes or no.
Merit, yes. Use of tax dollars to do so, no.

[ChumpDumper]

Merit, yes. Use of tax dollars to do so, no.:lol

So you contradicted yourself once. Let's see if you can twice.

What merit does his investigation have?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

More useful than congress investigating steroid usage.

MLB is an $8b industry. They did have a systemic problem with steroid usage. Might as well argue that mining safety is irrelevant.

When Hawaii has a epidemic of certificate fraud let me know.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, WC quickly abandoned this thread.

[rascal]

They ran the bio from 1992 to 2007.

Romney cut some kids hair, in high school, 48 years ago.

One, if true, disqualifies Obama from holding the office of President. Why is the other important?

One shows poor character. The other is nonsense and unimportant.

[Wild Cobra]

:lol

So you contradicted yourself once. Let's see if you can twice.

What merit does his investigation have?
Far more than any talk about Romney's long ago past.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, WC quickly abandoned this thread.
Not at all. Just had to be away from my computer. I don't live in someone's basement 24/7 like you do to be online all the time.

[ChumpDumper]

Far more than any talk about Romney's long ago past.So, Arpaio's investigation has no merit at all.

Thanks for making that clear.

[boutons_deux]

Ken Bennett, Arizona Secretary Of State, Backs Away From Birther Request

Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett backed away from his birther-fueled request to verify President Obama's birth certificate with the state of Hawaii, telling a Phoenix radio program that he was sorry for any negative attention he may have brought to the state.

"If I embarrassed the state, I apologize, but that certainly wasn't my intent," Bennett said Tuesday during an interview with radio station KTAR, adding that he was just trying to "help as many Arizonians as I can" by looking into their concerns over the document.

Bennett also walked back his threat to keep Obama off Arizona's ballot this fall.

"He’ll be on the ballot as long as he fills out the same paperwork and does the same things that everybody else has," Bennett said.

However, when pressed by the radio hosts on whether he was pandering to birther conspiracy theorists who believe the president was born outside the United States, Bennett pushed back.

"What is so sacred or untouchable about this question that you can't even ask the question?" he said, after insisting that he himself does not subscribe to the fraudulent birth certificate theories.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/23/ken-bennett-birther_n_1538160.html?ref=topbar

So he ain't really sorry anyway, and says questioning Obama's birth cert is fair game. GF AZ, NV, OK, KS, what a bunch asshole govts and politicians.

[Blake]

Has Arizona always been this full of nut jobs or is this something that has happened in the last ten years or so

[LnGrrrR]

I'd be embarrassed to reside in Arizona.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I'd be embarrassed to reside in Arizona.

but the birthers may have been right..

lol

[leemajors]

Has Arizona always been this full of nut jobs or is this something that has happened in the last ten years or so

The same attitude toward things is pretty prevalent in the San Diego area as well in my experience. THEY SHOULD BUILD A WALL TO KEEP EM OUT, etc.

[mavs>spurs]

yeah they release it now that they've had plenty of time to plan and fake one

[ChumpDumper]

yeah they release it now that they've had plenty of time to plan and fake oneIncluding the construction of a time machine to place a birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper in 1961.

Sorry man, you're just another lazy conspiracy theorist without an actual theory.

[mavs>spurs]

has anyone collaborated the story by showing their own copy of the paper that they've kept through the years, proving that the "newspaper" isn't a fake?

[clambake]

has anyone collaborated the story by showing their own copy of the paper that they've kept through the years, proving that the "newspaper" isn't a fake?

collaborating is exactly what they're doing.

[ChumpDumper]

has anyone collaborated the story by showing their own copy of the paper that they've kept through the years, proving that the "newspaper" isn't a fake?:lol

You do know that newspapers and libraries keep archives of newspapers, don't you? Or does your conspiracy include the faking of microfiches and the planting of those fake microfiches in scores of libraries in Hawaii?

lol collaborated

lol quotation marks

lol prove a negative

[TeyshaBlue]

has anyone collaborated the story by showing their own copy of the paper that they've kept through the years, proving that the "newspaper" isn't a fake?


You need help. Click here, knucklehead (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=corroborate)

[baseline bum]

The same attitude toward things is pretty prevalent in the San Diego area as well in my experience. THEY SHOULD BUILD A WALL TO KEEP EM OUT, etc.

LOL, they have had a wall there for years. :lol

[leemajors]

LOL, they have had a wall there for years. :lol

Sorry the Lost Abbey Brewery owner's wife told me about that when she found my friend and I were from Texas. She asked if we had plans to build a wall like AZ. Kinda put a damper on our visit.