Lazy quacks in the NBA

[MavDynasty]

You'd think PROFESSIONAL basketball players would practice and make free throws at a better clip than 52 fuckin percent.

These chokers deserve to get swept.

[BlairForceDejuan]

Above their pay grade tbh.

[Mugen]

Mavs got this.

[Spurtacus]

Mavs got this.

:lol

[Axe Murderer]

Mavs got this.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

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[Reck]

This is a mental thing. I dont think practice will make perfect.

You dont really think they dont try to practice FTs do you?

[Venti Quattro]

i never understood it tbh..ft's are so fuckin easy

Andrew Bynum, is that you?

[William Hung]

They should shoot Rick Barry style tbh imo
Shaq was offered private training but he thought it was humiliating :lol
Nz-T30WZKo8

[Latarian Milton]

making ft's should be easy like pissing into the bucket tbh

[Koolaid_Man]

i'm just saying..if i can hit ft's at an 85% clip and i don't even play anymore..there is absolutely no excuse for every single nba player to not hit 90% or better.


:lmao.....:lmao...:lmao

[DMX7]

Mavs got this.

:lol

[Proxy]

You'd think PROFESSIONAL basketball players would practice and make free throws at a better clip than 52 fuckin percent.

These chokers deserve to get swept.

You'd think someone who has never taken a free throw during an NBA playoff game would keep quiet about something he knew nothing about.

[Proxy]

:lmao so it magically gets harder or something because it's the nba? what, u think they crank up the difficulty level like a video game and its harder to shoot it or what :lmao

a ft is a ft as long as the ball is 29.5 inches in circumference and the hoop is 10 ft off the ground

When you're shooting a free throw in a stadium full of people after playing a game against the top athletes in the world with the pressure of high importance and dependence as well as money invested.... in contrast with shooting hoops in a meaningless rec league game or against some buddies of yours.... yeah, I think "it" gets "magically" harder by a strong degree.

[ElNono]

When you're shooting a free throw in a stadium full of people after playing a game against the top athletes in the world with the pressure of high importance and dependence as well as money invested.... in contrast with shooting hoops in a meaningless rec league game or against some buddies of yours.... yeah, I think "it" gets "magically" harder by a strong degree.

Reggie Evans sucks shooting freethrows ALL THE TIME. He's the 5th worst FT shooter in the history of the NBA.

Stop posting

[DAF86]

Reggie Evans sucks shooting freethrows ALL THE TIME. He's the 5th worst FT shooter in the history of the NBA.

Stop posting

Well, he has shot on the NBA ALL THE TIME.

[DMX7]

Isn't the Clippers' Jordan even worse?

[midnightpulp]

Dammit, MavDynasty. I wanted to be the one to make this thread.

It's funny seeing the fans of my B-team and other Spur haters complain about the hack-a-strategy. Maybe if these monkeys practiced more on their freethrows growing up and less on what kind of highlight dunks they can invent, they wouldn't be a risk going to the line.

[midnightpulp]

When you're shooting a free throw in a stadium full of people after playing a game against the top athletes in the world with the pressure of high importance and dependence as well as money invested.... in contrast with shooting hoops in a meaningless rec league game or against some buddies of yours.... yeah, I think "it" gets "magically" harder by a strong degree.

It's not even the pressure. Evans and Jordan have poor fundamental form. Griffin is the one you can argue that cracks under pressure at the line, since his form is okay, but Evans, Jordan, and even our own Splitter need to clean up their fundamentals in that aspect.

No excuse for professional basketball player to not know at least how to shoot a free-throw.

[jag]

Reggie Evans sucks shooting freethrows ALL THE TIME. He's the 5th worst FT shooter in the history of the NBA.

Stop posting

ElNono talkin dirty to dat nigga proxy.

[Proxy]

Reggie Evans sucks shooting freethrows ALL THE TIME. He's the 5th worst FT shooter in the history of the NBA.

Stop posting

The part where you switched the intent of a post from the general defense of the increased difficulty in FT shooting in the higher tier of basketball leagues to the specific FT performance of an individual player is where your response doesn't match up with my post's intent. I can see how that can be easily overlooked when you're so very eager to pad your ego held by your forum status.

[Proxy]

:lmao a free throw is fundamentally the same every single time..if you're doing it differently due to any of those other factors, THAT'S your problem.

...and isn't that what we're talking about? If we were to discard all of the mental variables that make a free throw different in an NBA playoff game from a shot you take in the gym by yourself, then the conversation is aimless.

[TE]

The part where you switched the intent of a post from the general defense of the increased difficulty in FT shooting in the higher tier of basketball leagues to the specific FT performance of an individual player is where your response doesn't match up with my post's intent. I can see how that can be easily overlooked when you're so very eager to pad your ego held by your forum status.

:lol at this response.

You sound like a bitchy whiny faggot on the Internet, I can only imagine how you are in real life:lol


:lol anime

[Proxy]

It's not even the pressure. Evans and Jordan have poor fundamental form. Griffin is the one you can argue that cracks under pressure at the line, since his form is okay, but Evans, Jordan, and even our own Splitter need to clean up their fundamentals in that aspect.

No excuse for professional basketball player to not know at least how to shoot a free-throw.

Yeah, I agree. If they perfected their form, everything else could take care of itself in the long run. The confidence gained would help with the mental pressure.

[unforeseen]

i'm just saying..if i can hit ft's at an 25% clip and i don't even play anymore..there is absolutely no excuse for every single nba player to not hit 60% or better.

Fixed.

[ElNono]

thread title change to the rescue, tbh

[DAF86]

Proxy has a point, supossedly Bowen was a great FT shooter on practice and then in the games he would fuck up, no matter if it was in the first game of the regular season or in game 7 of the finals.

[Axe Murderer]

Proxy has a point, supossedly Bowen was a great FT shooter on practice and then in the games he would fuck up, no matter if it was in the first game of the regular season or in game 7 of the finals.

Probably because you feel all energized/pumped up in a game so it takes a lot less power to shoot then when you just go to the gym and take them by yourself. I always had that problem when I played.

tbh I would be money in practice and sometimes bank them in the game because I was so pumped up

[ElNono]

The part where you switched the intent of a post from the general defense of the increased difficulty in FT shooting in the higher tier of basketball leagues to the specific FT performance of an individual player is where your response doesn't match up with my post's intent. I can see how that can be easily overlooked when you're so very eager to pad your ego held by your forum status.

This was your post...


When you're shooting a free throw in a stadium full of people after playing a game against the top athletes in the world with the pressure of high importance and dependence as well as money invested.... in contrast with shooting hoops in a meaningless rec league game or against some buddies of yours.... yeah, I think "it" gets "magically" harder by a strong degree.

Let me repeat it one more time...


When you're shooting a free throw in a stadium full of people after playing a game against the top athletes in the world with the pressure of high importance and dependence as well as money invested.... in contrast with shooting hoops in a meaningless rec league game or against some buddies of yours.... yeah, I think "it" gets "magically" harder by a strong degree.

What you're basically saying is that Reggie Evans would "magically" become a great FT shooter on a rec league... despite no evidence whatsoever that's true at all.

[ElNono]

5th worst free throw percentage in the history of the entire NBA

[Venti Quattro]

Nono, sending Proxy to the free-woe line.

[Proxy]

What you're basically saying is that Reggie Evans would "magically" become a great FT shooter on a rec league... despite no evidence whatsoever that's true at all.

"Lazy Blacks" (pre-title change).... sounds like a generalization to me. I'm making an argument for FT shooting in the NBA being more difficult than practice in general; not an argument for any specific case or individual player. There are always exceptions to every generalization, and you would have me asking for forgiveness if saying Evans turning into Barry after subtracting the environment had been my intent.

Rather, my intent was to put down the humorous notion that normal forum-posting people feel that they could walk out to the line with said notes partnered with the professional environment and situation with make the points with ease.

[ElNono]

"Lazy Blacks" (pre-title change).... sounds like a generalization to me. I'm making an argument for FT shooting in the NBA being more difficult than practice in general; not an argument for any specific case or individual player. There are always exceptions to every generalization, and you would have me asking for forgiveness if saying Evans turning into Barry after subtracting the environment had been my intent.

Rather, my intent was to put down the humorous notion that normal forum-posting people feel that they could walk out to the line with said notes partnered with the professional environment and situation with make the points with ease.

Fair enough :toast

[Proxy]

Fair enough :toast
:toast

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

I know we hear stories all the time about Shaq and Ben Wallace being able to sink 50 free throws in a row during practice but I have my doubts. If free throws were THAT easy for them during practice they wouldn't look so uncomfortable and clueless during a game.

The "I'm really good in practice, but not in games!" thing is bullshit. It's like people who say "I'm really good on the driving range, but I never play well on the course!" Yeah, no shit, you're swinging well on the driving range when you have 100 balls to hit one after another so you can identify flaws and focus on correcting them because it's just practice. Same thing with basketball. When you're shooting hundreds of free throws in a row and can get in a rhythm and think about form/motion. The whole point is to practice them to the point where they're 2nd nature and you have the right form/motion without thinking about it.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Tyson already basically said all of this^

[Venti Quattro]

There was a tale that Shaq was offered training by a great freethrow coach (can't remember who it is) but refused. I hope he took that training so the Lakers wouldn't have had to pull him out in the dying minutes of close games.

[tesseractive]

i'm just saying..if i can hit ft's at an 85% clip and i don't even play anymore..there is absolutely no excuse for every single nba player to not hit 90% or better.

NBA teams could walk into pretty much any gym and find guys who shoot free throws better than Reggie Evans... and pretty much none of them could rebound the way Evans does playing against NBA-caliber players. Nobody gave the guy an NBA contract for hitting his FTs, he got it because he's a badass on the boards.

Yeah, the dude really ought to spend some time working on his shitty shooting form. It's embarrassing. But as long as he delivers cleaning the glass, he's still doing what he's paid to do.

[Proxy]

There's two sides to the game. You can can max out the mechanical side with practice, but the mental side of the game is dependent on the individual.

Let us hypothetically disregard the mental part of the game and imagine every player functioning on basic mechanics that have been perfected by practice. In this world, there wouldn't even be a need for free throws because every unaltered shot would go in and free throws would be assumed to be made. Pressure and fatigue wouldn't work against a player's mental state... but in reality that isn't the case. This is the reason the game is played and free throws are given opportunities instead of given points.

[Proxy]

That being said, Shaq, Evans, Wallace... have HUGE shortcoming on both sides. It isn't a coincidence that their games didn't/don't depended on fundamentals.

[mavs>spurs]

oh give me a break don't even talk about fatigue. if a high school team is expected to shoot 70% in games, and of course we were tired, then an nba team should be expected to shoot through the "fatigue" as well. they are professional athletes and should be proportionately more conditioned than high school kids to offset the differences in game length. the hoops you are jumping through to make excuses for overpaid grown men makes you look like a sycophant.

[mavs>spurs]

also, the mental aspect should be minimized because as stated, it should be done on a subconscious level. that's what the good free throw shooters have learned to tap into.

[tesseractive]

why not set the bar a little higher and become a better player? especially when it's something as simple as free throws. free throws really are easy to hit with practice. these overpaid childish premadonnas all think they're above something as trivial as "practice" as iverson says.

I don't have a good answer for that. If the Spurs signed somebody like Evans, I'd expect him to work with Chip Engelland until he saw free throws in his sleep.

But I do know that anyone who consistently excels at rebounding in the NBA isn't a slacker, because grabbing boards day in and day out is hard work.

[mavs>spurs]

it's easy to go out and work hard in games, which is 2 or 3 times a week, as opposed to working hard 7 days a week and in the summer when everyone else is vacationing.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

There's two sides to the game. You can can max out the mechanical side with practice, but the mental side of the game is dependent on the individual.
The mental side and mechanical side aren't unrelated. The more you practice something and make it 2nd nature, it's not as taxing mentally to do it.

[Proxy]

oh give me a break don't even talk about fatigue. if a high school team is expected to shoot 70% in games, and of course we were tired, then an nba team should be expected to shoot through the "fatigue" as well. they are professional athletes and should be proportionately more conditioned than high school kids to offset the differences in game length. the hoops you are jumping through to make excuses for overpaid grown men makes you look like a sycophant.

Well fatigue was part of what I said... and so was pressure. I could add playable degrees of injury too. If you want to nitpick and choose parts to argue while leaving the other portion of points out in a display of pettiness, then the discussion becomes aimless. Sycophant... maybe I am if Shaq or Evans is reading this.

That being said, fatigue can alter mechanics at a subconscious level. If you're gasping for breath after an intense series, your focus may not be at the necessary level... or if you're Reggie Evans, your mechanics are so poor, that anything working against you is a recipe for disaster. This is basic shit right here... no matter how in shape you are, your body can be pushed to it's limit. I'm not imagining this. It is what it is, regardless of how much these guys get paid. There's a reason why Nash and Kobe don't hit FTs at 100% even with solid mechanics.

I'm just telling it like it is. Give me the reasons why there hasn't been a player to hit FTs at 100%, going by your logic that fatigue doesn't matter. And let's leave out the notion that their salary or age means anything, because it doesn't in the sense of this discussion.

[Proxy]

The mental side and mechanical side aren't unrelated. The more you practice something and make it 2nd nature, it's not as taxing mentally to do it.

For sure. Practice breeds muscle memory and confidence.

[mavs>spurs]

why hasn't anyone hit 100%? because were humans not robots, but we can still get roughly close. not going to argue the rest because you're just saying the same things over and over.

[leemajors]

yips happen when you least expect.

[Proxy]

Yeah... I'm being redundant, but it seems like the things I'm repeating aren't being refuted. It's all moot though... and I've lost interest.

[Bill_Brasky]

I know we hear stories all the time about Shaq and Ben Wallace being able to sink 50 free throws in a row during practice but I have my doubts. If free throws were THAT easy for them during practice they wouldn't look so uncomfortable and clueless during a game.

The "I'm really good in practice, but not in games!" thing is bullshit. It's like people who say "I'm really good on the driving range, but I never play well on the course!" Yeah, no shit, you're swinging well on the driving range when you have 100 balls to hit one after another so you can identify flaws and focus on correcting them because it's just practice. Same thing with basketball. When you're shooting hundreds of free throws in a row and can get in a rhythm and think about form/motion. The whole point is to practice them to the point where they're 2nd nature and you have the right form/motion without thinking about it.

Yes.

On the range, I think so much about every single swing and trying to focus on having the right rhythm, keeping my hands close to my body, keeping my head down, all that. It becomes second nature.

On the course, I think about none of that. I just focus on making the swing that I know I can make, and chipping and putting becomes the real challenge, and the difference between a 70 and a 75.