Will the Spurs Change the NBA?

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If the Spurs win it all this year, could they have created a new blueprint for teams to follow? It seems straightforward enough - limit the minutes of your stars to develop your bench and your allaround team.

There seemed to be 2 factors this year - the lockout shortened season and Ginobili's injury - that resulted in extended bench play. Especially with the bench almost coming from behind and beating the Minidicks - oh, excuse me, the Mavericks - it seemed to make our subs feel more inclusive to our overall success. It seemed like we became much more of a team after that game. I do hate seeing Blair at the end of the pine, now, I wish he was more integral to the rotation, but I think Diaw is a much better allaround asset.


Even with a full season next year I am already hoping for the same pattern.:lobt2:number five!!!! GO SPURS GO!!! :flag:

[ChumpDumper]

I think the NBA will change the intentional foul rule again because of the Spurs.

That's about it.

[cantthinkofanything]

It's a good blueprint. Draft superstar center. Injure superstar center. Win lottery. Draft best power forward ever. Find two potential HOF's late in the draft. Add happy go lucky coach with a gleam in his eye and a bulge in his pants. Rinse. Repeat.

[Drz]

The answer to thread title is yes, but not for the reasons you state. We're going to see a LOT of teams copy the Spurs offense, particularly the floor spacing and passing. That transition is already under way, but this year's Spurs made its benefits so shockingly visible that it'll speed that transition up.

The part about limiting the stars' minutes.... I don't think that's the way of the future. It's worked out great in San Antonio, but having your best players on the floor for as many minutes as possible will probably always be what NBA teams do. SA's limited use of Ginobili over the years is one of my few qualms with how the Spurs coaching staff handles the team.

[coyotes_geek]

Meh. It's not like the Spurs are the only ones to recognize how awesome it would be to have a great coach coaching a team with great depth and unselfish stars. The Spurs are an example of a team that through skill and good fortune had everything come together at the right time, not one that's made any kind of magical discovery of some new concept.

[Mal]

Warriors developed their bench players. I mean, their bench players werent worse than starters. And this didnt help them at all.

[Spurfect21]

It's a good blueprint. Draft superstar center. Injure superstar center. Win lottery. Draft best power forward ever. Find two potential HOF's late in the draft. Add happy go lucky coach with a gleam in his eye and a bulge in his pants. Rinse. Repeat.

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[Man In Black]

You have to have solid players who understand their roles and why subjugation to the program is key.
Too many players want to be the man with the media ready to annoint attention.
Fuck That! TEAM IS EVERYTHING!

[Spur|n|Austin]

I think the NBA will change the intentional foul rule again because of the Spurs.

That's about it.

I think so too; I actually think it's genius and last night it completely changed the game, it forced them to go small and play to our style of play for that situation and really the game was in our hands after Evans bricked those two free throws. The NBA has tried to speed up the pace of the game for years now and leave it to Pop to turn it back, love it.

[tesseractive]

The answer to thread title is yes, but not for the reasons you state. We're going to see a LOT of teams copy the Spurs offense, particularly the floor spacing and passing. That transition is already under way, but this year's Spurs made its benefits so shockingly visible that it'll speed that transition up.

The part about limiting the stars' minutes.... I don't think that's the way of the future. It's worked out great in San Antonio, but having your best players on the floor for as many minutes as possible will probably always be what NBA teams do. SA's limited use of Ginobili over the years is one of my few qualms with how the Spurs coaching staff handles the team.

There are already teams trying some of the same plays, but they don't necessarily have the personnel to run it as effectively. But yeah, I'm sure more GMs will be saying "OK, how can we surround our stars with the right role players to execute on something like that?"

Then again, copies of the Triangle or Sacto's Princeton offense from a decade ago never took off, so who knows?

[Jimcs50]

I think the NBA will change the intentional foul rule again because of the Spurs.

That's about it.


As they should.

[CosmicCowboy]

"Not to be a smartass, but he's not a very good free throw shooter"

:lmao

[Jimcs50]

I think so too; I actually think it's genius and last night it completely changed the game, it forced them to go small and play to our style of play for that situation and really the game was in our hands after Evans bricked those two free throws. The NBA has tried to speed up the pace of the game for years now and leave it to Pop to turn it back, love it.

I hate it.

My question is why don't teams do that to Splitter, he is almost as bad as Evans and Jordan.

If I were Thunder, I would do that every time Spurs have ball.

[T Park]

I hate it.

My question is why don't teams do that to Splitter, he is almost as bad as Evans and Jordan.

If I were Thunder, I would do that every time Spurs have ball.

Make your free throws and it stops.

Not hard to understand.....

[Obstructed_View]

So the formula is "do a good job of putting role players around three players you were really lucky to get".

[Jimcs50]

Make your free throws and it stops.

Not hard to understand.....


Would you want Thunder to do that to Splitter in games 1 and 2 and have him go 2-8, and Spurs lose by 3 points?

It is a fact that some big men just do not have the skills to shoot a decent FT %. They are just not built for shooting Fts.

I hate it that it makes a player a goat, when he is not deserving of being a goat. Reggie Evans is one hell of a player a player who every team in the league would benefit having him and his hustle and attitude on their roster.

You know he was feeling horrible when he was missing those shots, even though he was trying as hard as he could. He did not deserve being the goat.

He had a good attitude towards Pop, because he is a class guy, he said he had something to work on, but sometimes, you just don't have the tools to be a decent FT shooter.

[Keepin' it real]

There's no way the NBA will let big-market teams make a habit out of "resting" their star players during the season. Eventually, they know it would bite 'em in the ass.

[Keepin' it real]

Would you want Thunder to do that to Splitter in games 1 and 2 and have him go 2-8, and Spurs lose by 3 points?

It is a fact that some big men just do not have the skills to shoot a decent FT %. They are just not built for shooting Fts.

I hate it that it makes a player a goat, when he is not deserving of being a goat. Reggie Evans is one hell of a player a player who every team in the league would benefit having him and his hustle and attitude on their roster.

You know he was feeling horrible when he was missing those shots, even though he was trying as hard as he could. He did not deserve being the goat.

He had a good attitude towards Pop, because he is a class guy, he said he had something to work on, but sometimes, you just don't have the tools to be a decent FT shooter.

I fully expect Brooks to hack-a-Tiago ... and I bet Spurs fans will boo, how ironic.

[Jimcs50]

I fully expect Brooks to hack-a-Tiago ... and I bet Spurs fans will boo, how ironic.

Hell, I would do it 10 times a game against Splitter, I'd use every scub player at the end of my bench to do it every time Splitter is in the game.

It would be perfect strategy against Spurs.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I hate it.

My question is why don't teams do that to Splitter, he is almost as bad as Evans and Jordan.

If I were Thunder, I would do that every time Spurs have ball.

It's a FREE throw; if you can't make it when the game counts then you need to work on that, same goes for the Spurs, if someone decides to do it to us then so be it. I know Pop won't complain. Don't you think we pretty much had the game won after Evans missed those two freebies?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Hell, I would do it 10 times a game against Splitter, I'd use every scub player at the end of my bench to do it every time Splitter is in the game.

It would be perfect strategy against Spurs.

Splitter sunk two important FT's down the stretch last night, tbh.

[pad300]

Would you want Thunder to do that to Splitter in games 1 and 2 and have him go 2-8, and Spurs lose by 3 points?

It is a fact that some big men just do not have the skills to shoot a decent FT %. They are just not built for shooting Fts.

I hate it that it makes a player a goat, when he is not deserving of being a goat. Reggie Evans is one hell of a player a player who every team in the league would benefit having him and his hustle and attitude on their roster.

You know he was feeling horrible when he was missing those shots, even though he was trying as hard as he could. He did not deserve being the goat.

He had a good attitude towards Pop, because he is a class guy, he said he had something to work on, but sometimes, you just don't have the tools to be a decent FT shooter.

Then quit trying to be cool, macho, and tough and shoot them underhand, a la Rick Barry. If you can't master the motion, change the motion... Everyone really should do underhand - your make more shots - don't let your pride stop you from doing the necessary to win!

[Jimcs50]

Then quit trying to be cool, macho, and tough and shoot them underhand, a la Rick Barry. If you can't master the motion, change the motion... Everyone really should do underhand - your make more shots - don't let your pride stop you from doing the necessary to win!

I think Shaq tried it once.

[T Park]

Would you want Thunder to do that to Splitter in games 1 and 2 and have him go 2-8, and Spurs lose by 3 points?

It is a fact that some big men just do not have the skills to shoot a decent FT %. They are just not built for shooting Fts.

I hate it that it makes a player a goat, when he is not deserving of being a goat. Reggie Evans is one hell of a player a player who every team in the league would benefit having him and his hustle and attitude on their roster.

You know he was feeling horrible when he was missing those shots, even though he was trying as hard as he could. He did not deserve being the goat.

He had a good attitude towards Pop, because he is a class guy, he said he had something to work on, but sometimes, you just don't have the tools to be a decent FT shooter.


Oh boo friggin hoo

[T Park]

I trust tiago at the line way more than Reggie Evans....

[polandprzem]

They are just not built for shooting Fts.

ke?


btw. You need to have a good bench and a philosophy to create everybody role.
In spurs system it doesnot matter who comes in. He fits the team. That';s why the spurs can play the same quality of ball for 48mins.

[polandprzem]

I trust tiago at the line way more than Reggie Evans....

reggie doesn't trust Tiago?

[Slomo]

Would you want Thunder to do that to Splitter in games 1 and 2 and have him go 2-8, and Spurs lose by 3 points?


Yes, and I would expect Pop to find a solution, or they deserve to lose.



It is a fact that some big men just do not have the skills to shoot a decent FT %. They are just not built for shooting Fts.

Buuuuuuuulshit! and you know it :lol


I hate it that it makes a player a goat, when he is not deserving of being a goat. Reggie Evans is one hell of a player a player who every team in the league would benefit having him and his hustle and attitude on their roster.

You know he was feeling horrible when he was missing those shots, even though he was trying as hard as he could. He did not deserve being the goat.

He had a good attitude towards Pop, because he is a class guy, he said he had something to work on, but sometimes, you just don't have the tools to be a decent FT shooter.

Work on your free throws and or contimue feeling sorry for yourself - easy choice.

[Obstructed_View]

It's not fair that you force a guy like Kenyon Martin to have to stand out there and shoot 20 foot jumpers. He's not made to shoot 20 foot jumpers. If the Spurs take everything else away then all he's got is 20 foot jumpers. Someone should change the rules.

[mencken]

Would you want Thunder to do that to Splitter in games 1 and 2 and have him go 2-8, and Spurs lose by 3 points?

It is a fact that some big men just do not have the skills to shoot a decent FT %. They are just not built for shooting Fts.

I hate it that it makes a player a goat, when he is not deserving of being a goat. Reggie Evans is one hell of a player a player who every team in the league would benefit having him and his hustle and attitude on their roster.

You know he was feeling horrible when he was missing those shots, even though he was trying as hard as he could. He did not deserve being the goat.

He had a good attitude towards Pop, because he is a class guy, he said he had something to work on, but sometimes, you just don't have the tools to be a decent FT shooter.

I'm sure Dejuan Blair and all the other players on the roster last year were trying as hard as they could when the Grizzlies bounced the Spurs. Should the NBA change the rules to accommodate the Spurs' weaknesses?

But, I do have to give props to Reggie Evans with his response of, "It gives me something to work on over the offseason." Paraphrasing, of course.

[Jimcs50]

Yes, and I would expect Pop to find a solution, or they deserve to lose.




Buuuuuuuulshit! and you know it :lol



Work on your free throws and or contimue feeling sorry for yourself - easy choice.


Their hands are too big...that is a fact. That is why TD has been a so so FT shooter his whole career.


Of course, my hands are much bigger than a ping pong ball and I am awesome at beer pong.....

So scratch everything I've said thus far.

Fuck em.

:lol

[Spurious]

This isn't college or high school with 1-and-1s on non-shooting fouls. You miss the first one (which is fairly common, even for good FT shooters) and you still get a chance to sink the second. Even with terrible FT shooters, you're going to at least come close to 50% shooting on those. So you average a point per possession, which over a full game is nearly enough to get you to 100 points. (Of course, it won't last that long, because the other team's entire roster will have fouled out long before that.)

Make even a reasonable percentage of FTs, play reasonable defense, rebound the defensive boards and win. Do it four times and you're in the Finals, no matter how "fair" or "unfair" the other team's strategy seemed.

[Old School 44]

I don't see how you change the hack-a-player rule. You're just rewarding poor free throw shooters. Just make your free throws and it will stop. There's actually more to it than just free throws made and missed. Sure you'd want the player you're fouling to miss, but sometimes, I think you just want to break up a team's rhythm as well as quiet the crowd. Sure, it's not pretty, but I just don't see how you change it.

[TampaDude]

I don't see how you change the hack-a-player rule. You're just rewarding poor free throw shooters. Just make your free throws and it will stop. There's actually more to it than just free throws made and missed. Sure you'd want the player you're fouling to miss, but sometimes, I think you just want to break up a team's rhythm as well as quiet the crowd. Sure, it's not pretty, but I just don't see how you change it.

It slows the game down, disrupts the other team's rhythm, and takes away any chance for a 3 on that possession (barring an unlikely rebound). Used at the right time, it can be the difference in a game, as we saw last night. :hat

[spursfan1000]

It's a good blueprint. Draft superstar center. Injure superstar center. Win lottery. Draft best power forward ever. Find two potential HOF's late in the draft. Add happy go lucky coach with a gleam in his eye and a bulge in his pants. Rinse. Repeat.

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