Re rank NBA point guards - True value only!

[Rummpd]

1. Parker - 3 titles and counting, a 2nd finals MVP a coming.
2. Westbrooke - he too will get schooled by Parker.
3. That crazed ugly guy on Boston, i.e. Rondo who must be genetically linked to Sam Cassell
4. D. Williams based on a least manning up vs. Spurs in the playoffs at his best.
5. Placeholder for hurt former MVP who the jury is out on the knee thing long term - Rose - can move up to as high as 2 when healthy.
6. Paul - outplayed again despite his bo boos made inane decisions down the stretch.

[Axe Murderer]

1 Paul
2 Williams
3 Westbrook
4 Rose
5 Rondo
6 Nash
7 Dragic
8 Collison
9 Chalmers
10 Conley

-big dropoff after these 10. Am I missing somebody?

[Venti Quattro]

Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook
Deron Williams
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Steve Nash

[JoeTait75]

1 Paul
2 Williams
3 Westbrook
4 Rose
5 Rondo
6 Nash
7 Dragic
8 Collison
9 Chalmers
10 Conley

-big dropoff after these 10. Am I missing somebody?

No love for Kyrie Irving?

[dougp]

JFC Rumppd, when'd you start drinking? It looks like mouse stole your account and made a post ...

[Rummpd]

Why is Paul always given a pass? Great stat machine, great flop machine but a winner = NOT. His gags x 2 last pm were epic and that was the first time he brought it all series - the rest it looked like he gave up as soon as the Spurs pressured him and cut off his flops and he bricked a few shots?

Not yet, he may one day truly raise his teams play and he could have in this series even with some dings, he failed.

NO one can honestly put Paul at the top right now, Rose might get a pass but I will take him, Parker (for sure - Parker has been clutch now many times) or plausibly Westbrooke or even Williams any day any time.

Heck right now I would sure take Nash for one game any time any day and Irving deserves serious consideration over the over-hyped, undependable Paul.

Bledsoe was far better than Paul and all series = no surprise there we have seen this act from Paul before - just as BRHornet!

11 games - Paul did his normal regression to the mean under pressure:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/pg/seasontype/3

[TDMVPDPOY]

cp3 = kg, always get pass

[hater]

1. Mills
2. Parker
3. Rondo
4. Westbrook
5. Paul

[benefactor]

Rummpd...runnin' out the house in the full grey nude...breakin' out the goods.

[Goran Dragic]

1 Paul
2 Williams
3 Westbrook
4 Rose
5 Rondo
6 Nash
7 Dragic
8 Collison
9 Chalmers
10 Conley

-big dropoff after these 10. Am I missing somebody?
Glad to see you kept anyone who's never been outplayed by Mike Conley in a playoff series off this list :tu

[Goran Dragic]

I'd make a list but there's no point in ranking a group of players who'll never be more than sidekicks on championship teams tbh

[Goran Dragic]

:lmao

[O.J. Simpson]

He must be a witch doctor.

[Technique]

i like jon wall, he fast

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Ty Lawson anyone?

[Kai]

Healthy Rose
Paul
Williams
Parker
Westbrook
Rondo

[Venti Quattro]

http://www.bms-first.com/resources/23_true-value.jpg

[jeebus]

Any list without Sessions is moot.

[Venti Quattro]

Any list without Sessions is moot.

The Savior transcends any point guard list. It would be unfair for these mortal guards if he was included. So when you say "best point guard", it goes without saying that it's the second best point guard behind The Savior.

[Spursfan092120]

1 Paul
2 Williams
3 Westbrook
4 Rose
5 Rondo
6 Nash
7 Dragic
8 Collison
9 Chalmers
10 Conley

-big dropoff after these 10. Am I missing somebody?

http://spursofthemoment.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/tony-parker-angry.jpg

[jeebus]

The Savior transcends any point guard list. It would be unfair for these mortal guards if he was included. So when you say "best point guard", it goes without saying that it's the second best point guard behind The Savior.

Glory hallelujah, amen.

[Trainwreck2100]

1 Paul
2 Williams
3 Westbrook
4 Rose
5 Rondo
6 Nash
7 Dragic
8 Collison
9 Chalmers
10 Conley

-big dropoff after these 10. Am I missing somebody?
Ricky Rubio was having a fantastic rookie year before his injury.

He played fantastic

[DMC]

Value:

1. Lin

2. Neal

/thread

[Brazil]

TP
Manu
Diaw

in no particular order

[rayjayjohnson]

my mate patty mills just called me on his didgeridoo and said he should be on this list tbh

[namlook]

If I was picking a PG to start a team this would be the order I would choose them:

Paul
Williams
Rose
Rondo
Westbrook

[baseline bum]

What's up with everyone picking Rose, now that his athleticism is blown? If dude can't pass the SAT you think he's going to read NBA defenses and run a team?

[rayjayjohnson]

1. williams
2. paul (though his disappearing act this series hurts his stock)
3. parker (it's his ceiling, spurfan)
4. rose
5. rondo
6. nash
7. conley
8. lawson
9. dragic
10. lin




ahhahahaha joke.
10. teague. I like teague.

EDIT - forgot westbrook. he's #3. Maybe #2.

[Josepatches_]

CP3
Rose
TP
Westbrook
Rondo

But CP3 is clearly ahead

[tesseractive]

1. williams
2. paul (though his disappearing act this series hurts his stock)
3. parker (it's his ceiling, spurfan)
4. rose
5. rondo
6. nash
7. conley
8. lawson
9. dragic
10. lin




ahhahahaha joke.
10. teague. I like teague.

EDIT - forgot westbrook. he's #3. Maybe #2.

Williams? Really?

[HarlemHeat37]

1. Paul
2. Westbrook
3. Parker
4. Rondo
5. Nash
6. Williams
7. Irving
8. Dragic
9. Lowry
10. Conley

[rayjayjohnson]

Williams? Really?

yep. he's a class above.

if history has shown as anything, a truly great pg needs good players around him. williams was great with OK role players in utah. he has literally fuck all in NJ. put pieces around him and he's too big, too strong for that little ex NO bitch.

[Kai]

I don't think Williams is in any sort of class of his own, but I definitely don't see a problem at putting him interchangeably with CP3, which would be right at the top in most people's lists.

[Rummpd]

I don't think Williams is in any sort of class of his own, but I definitely don't see a problem at putting him interchangeably with CP3, which would be right at the top in most people's lists.

That is the issue on pure ability and raw talent yes, but SO FAR neither have demonstrated anything as far as leading teams, Paul had in NO early on a very strong team and Williams has also caused a coach to at least indirectly be fired.

Even Rose who I would actually put at or near the top when healthy has not been able to get even to a finals.


Parker is the proven commondity who can break down defenses and was the main man responsible for holding the Spurs near or at the top of the West 2/3 of the season and has remained brilliant. He has a finals MVP and should have been a top three in MVP this year over Paul IMO. It would not be unexpected for him to capture a 4th title and a 2nd MVP with his improved play, talent and maturity.

Parker right now is TOPS in true value and only Westbrooke who Parker has outplayed head to head or Rondo has a chance to still beat him head to head in a series this year.

Rondo is actually a interesting PG he does not need to shoot and has had some sick triple doubles including one that had as I recall over 15 boards.

Sticking by my list as in particular Paul has just not delivered enough in the clutch for all his accolades and talent. Winning trumps flash and Parker has done that the most and this year was the person who kept the Spurs relevant and still is breaking down defenses and running circles around "higher rated" PGs with impunity or dropping 40 on their asses.

[Scrub]

1. Paul
2. Rondo
3. Westbrook
4. Parker
5. Rose
6. Williams
7. Lawson
8. Nash
9. Irving
10. Lowry

[LiamNeeson'shero]

I'd add Lawson in the top 10 probably like 9. Dude had a very good playoffs and will only get better.

[Kai]

That is the issue on pure ability and raw talent yes, but SO FAR neither have demonstrated anything as far as leading teams, Paul had in NO early on a very strong team and Williams has also caused a coach to at least indirectly be fired.


tbh PG is just not an important/impactful enough position for the great ones to lead his team to championships.

[Latarian Milton]

lin has the biggest market value imho, if he gets back from injury and continues to play like he did in april he'd be LOCKED for the eastern ASG starting PG next 10yrs in a row, we got YAO 2.0 here we go

[stretch]

I'd make a list but there's no point in ranking a group of players who'll never be more than sidekicks on championship teams tbh

truth right here

perhaps the only exception was Isaiah Thomas, but he had a very complete and well rounded team around him, more so than most superstars have.

[Galileo]

George Hill deserves to be on the list.

[tesseractive]

George Hill deserves to be on the list.

How long is the list?

[KD4MVP]

Paul
Deron
Westbrook
Parker
Rondo

I'll wait and see how Rose is when he comes back, but that's the top 5 for now.

[DMX7]

Some of you are trying too hard.

[OZWIN]

OP is clearly trolling with those rankings...anyways:

Paul
Rose
Rondo
Williams
Parker
Westbrook

I did six as Parker and Westbrook are somewhat tied at this point.