Occupy Graduation

[RandomGuy]

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A handful of student activists are expressing their displeasure at the rising cost of college by wearing inflatable ball and chain accessories over their graduation robes. The props state the amount of debt with which they're graduating. The silent commencement protest, dubbed "Occupy Graduation" by its organizers, is taking place at seven universities around the country.

Ben Cohen, the co-founder of Ben & Jerry's ice cream, is helping pay for the protest and has raised about $400,000 to fund Occupy-related projects.

"A college education is so important and now it's only available to people who have a lot of money or to people who end up going into debt for the rest of their lives," Cohen told Yahoo News. The entrepreneur never completed college, but he thinks it's crucial to job success today.

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Another protest is planned for Hunter College in New York at the graduation ceremony on Tuesday. Monica Johnson, a 35-year-old Hunter College graduate student who's helping to organize the demonstration, borrowed about $15,000 in federally secured loans 15 years ago to pay for college. But in 2007, she decided to move to New York to get a master of fine arts degree at Pratt, a private school. She took out an additional $60,000 in loans, which ballooned to $88,000 after she dropped out of the program, dissatisfied. She now has a full-time job at an arts nonprofit and is enrolled at the much cheaper Hunter College, where she'll receive her MFA in December.

Johnson recently paid off $18,000 of her debt over a period of eight months, by subsisting on peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and paying for things only in cash, which she said helped her resist buying anything unnecessary. She's encouraging indebted graduates to form a union and negotiate with lenders to get lower rates or income-based repayment.

"What really pisses me off is I should never have been given those loans," Johnson said. "It honestly was the worst money I ever spent."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/occupy-graduation-student-activists-broadcast-debt-owed-ball-175457644.html

[mavs>spurs]

i don't have much sympathy for the liberal arts majors but the engineers and shit who don't have jobs now that pisses me off

[The_Worlds_finest]

Pratt was the only flyer I got, so they do have a place n my heart. However, student loans have gotten way the fuck out of hand. It's a trillion dollar bubble soon to burst, I'm no economics guy but this can't be good for the govt or banks who bought this debt.

[mavs>spurs]

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[ChumpDumper]

:lol

[The_Worlds_finest]

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Do not go mad bro. I think payments are deferred six months after graduation. If u dnt have major responsibilities throw care to the wind get on Craigslist or monster and go where you have always wanted.

[mavs>spurs]

:lol sure didn't go to school to work some craigslist job

[ChumpDumper]

.Aw, that was a great rant.

Why delete it?

[The_Worlds_finest]

:lol sure didn't go to school to work some craigslist job

:lol wow such a sense of entitlement! Good luck with that...

[mavs>spurs]

Aw, that was a great rant.

Why delete it?

because the wrong person could see it

[DarrinS]

They are victims who were forced to get loans and attend expensive schools. :dramaquee

Is there going to be an Occupy Bought too much car? Occupy Lived beyond my means? etc.


Oh well, their victimhood and complete refusal to accept personal responsibility will make them good little Dembots.

[ChumpDumper]

because the wrong person could see itWhich one?

What do you have to hide?

[mavs>spurs]

:lol wow such a sense of entitlement! Good luck with that...

i don't have THAT much of a sense of entitlement but i'm not going to be one of those people working for 12 dollars an hour with a degree, there's no point in that and it would never pay back the loans

[DarrinS]

http://www.alamo.edu/district/business-office/tuition-and-fees/

[mavs>spurs]

Which one?

What do you have to hide?

i'm done talking about it thanks and nothing

[mavs>spurs]

They are victims who were forced to get loans and attend expensive schools. :dramaquee

Is there going to be an Occupy Bought too much car? Occupy Lived beyond my means? etc.


Oh well, their victimhood and complete refusal to accept personal responsibility will make them good little Dembots.

i feel like a victim and i forewent going off to college like all my friends, worked to pay for 2 years of community college out of pocket and pay for books then had to take out about 15 grand of loans to wrap up my degree at the local university while i chose to live at home feeling like a faggot. all so i wouldn't end up like those guys, but the thought that none of that matters and i could possibly end up in the same boat thanks to these assholes just throws me into a rage.

[ChumpDumper]

i'm done talking about it thanks and nothingSo you threatened to renounce your citizenship and leave the country if you don't get a good job in six months out of UTA because of the drones circling your city.

Sounds like a plan.

[ChumpDumper]

i feel like a victimWelcome to adulthood. Register Republican. That's where the real victims are.

[mavs>spurs]

So you threatened to renounce your citizenship and leave the country if you don't get a good job in six months out of UTA because of the drones circling your city.

Sounds like a plan.

no, do you have a link of me saying that or something?

i bet you just love the drones flying overhead though. sicko.

[ChumpDumper]

no, do you have a link of me saying that or something?It's close enough.

There's no reason for me to make something like that up. Feel free to clarify.

[mavs>spurs]

Welcome to adulthood. Register Republican. That's where the real victims are.

why would i want to play into that dumbass divide and conquer puppet master game? ain't votin for nobody tbh, except ron paul or maybe some random honest guy who works at jack in the box as a manager over nobama

[The_Worlds_finest]

i don't have THAT much of a sense of entitlement but i'm not going to be one of those people working for 12 dollars an hour with a degree, there's no point in that and it would never pay back the loans

Absolutely! u might find a small business, who doesn't want to spend the money monster charges. Trust me I speak from experiance. I found a job n Craigslist in the second half of 08, when shit was real bad! It wasnt a dream job but it paid the bills, and I had a little for fun. Good luck!

[ChumpDumper]

i bet you just love the drones flying overhead though. sicko.Do you have proof of these drones or something?

The drones you didn't mention....:lol

[DarrinS]

lol, stupid bitch




Monica Johnson, a 35-year-old Hunter College graduate student who's helping to organize the demonstration, borrowed about $15,000 in federally secured loans 15 years ago to pay for college. But in 2007, she decided to move to New York to get a master of fine arts degree at Pratt, a private school. She took out an additional $60,000 in loans, which ballooned to $88,000 after she dropped out of the program, dissatisfied. She now has a full-time job at an arts nonprofit

[ChumpDumper]

why would i want to play into that dumbass divide and conquer puppet master game? ain't votin for nobody tbh, except ron paul or maybe some random honest guy who works at jack in the box as a manager over nobamaSounds like you'll be working for that last dude soon enough.

[mavs>spurs]

Do you have proof of these drones or something?

The drones you didn't mention....:lol

arlington is one of the first cities getting the drones. check out the comments on the page you asshole, i'm not the only one who sees what's going on. you're a hopeless apologist and a sheep you deserve what you get when this shit hits the fan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/drones-dhs-program-unmanned-aircraft-police_n_1537074.html

WASHINGTON -- The Department of Homeland Security has launched a program to "facilitate and accelerate the adoption" of small, unmanned drones by police and other public safety agencies, an effort that an agency official admitted faces "a very big hurdle having to do with privacy."

The $4 million Air-based Technologies Program, which will test and evaluate small, unmanned aircraft systems, is designed to be a "middleman" between drone manufacturers and first-responder agencies "before they jump into the pool," said John Appleby, a manager in the DHS Science and Technology Directorate's division of borders and maritime security.

Appleby provided program details to a friendly audience at the Counter Terror Expo here last week. Just days before, the Federal Aviation Administration had issued new rules to streamline licensing for government agencies seeking to operate lightweight drones.

The DHS program "is meant to aid the user community in making informed decisions" about buying drones, said a DHS spokeswoman. She said the department can help law enforcement agencies "better understand what this technology can contribute in areas such as real-time law enforcement operational support; special event response; crime scene situational awareness; border security; fire/wildfire detection; and disaster evaluation and initial response."

Appleby said he hopes to invite vendors to participate in field tests of sensors and other drone capabilities at a military base somewhere in the Southwest this summer. Later this year, the FAA plans separate tests that will focus on how to safely and efficiently integrate unmanned aircraft into the same airspace with piloted airplanes.

It may be a few years before these automated eyes fill the sky, but privacy advocates, lawmakers and civil liberties groups are already worried about potential abuses.

"If DHS is going to serve as a Consumer Reports for local authorities that are interested in buying drones and help them figure out which drones perform well and appropriate for their needs, that's great," said Jay Stanley of the American Civil Liberties Union. "At the same time, we do know that DHS institutionally has had a role in pushing local governments to increase their surveillance through grants. I would hope they would not use this program to encourage unnecessary surveillance."


Most people likely wouldn't consider the use of unmanned aircraft to find missing children, locate lost hikers or detect forest fires as "unnecessary" surveillance. But given that fewer than 400 of the nation's 18,000 law enforcement agencies currently have aviation units, the FAA has chosen a go-slow approach with a focus on safety. Initially, law enforcement agencies will be just licensed for training and performance evaluation. Only when a department has shown that it is proficient will it be granted an operational license.

Patrick Egan, a Sacramento, Calif., consultant who heads the Silicon Valley chapter of the Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International, an industry trade group, said the DHS program has merit. "Somebody needs to do it," he said. "There's too much room for problems. If they don’t educate police departments, there will be a backlash to this technology."

Indeed, an ACLU report released this past December said, "Our privacy laws are not strong enough to ensure that the new technology will be used responsibly and consistently with democratic values." It warned of a coming "'surveillance society' in which our every move is monitored, tracked, recorded, and scrutinized by the authorities."

A preview of that came in 2007 when Houston police not so secretly tested an unmanned aircraft that the department hoped to use, among other functions, in issuing speeding tickets. More recently, a police SWAT team in Grand Forks, N.D., deployed a borrowed DHS Predator drone to assist in making the first arrest of an American using pilot-less airborne surveillance.

The FAA has already authorized police in a handful of cities -- including Seattle; Arlington, Texas; North Little Rock, Ark.; Gadsden, Ala.; and Ogden, Utah -- to fly drones. But with those numbers set to soar, at least two pundits have suggested an individual who shot down a surveillance drone would become a "hero" to some.

Once "the bottleneck has passed and every police department does indeed have eyes everywhere, our notions of privacy under the Fourth Amendment and reasonable searches … will need to be reevaluated," wrote University of North Dakota aviation law professor Joseph Vacek in a 2010 law review article, "Big Brother Will Soon Be Watching--Or Will He?" "It seems the state will have the power, both constitutionally and technologically, to continually monitor its citizens from above."

The FAA rules allow government agencies to operate drones weighing from a few ounces to 25 pounds, small enough to fit in a backpack or the trunk of a police cruiser. Because most drones cannot detect and avoid other aircraft themselves, for now they must fly no more than 400 feet off the ground and within sight of the operator. Currently, only U.S. Customs and Border Patrol will be operating the big Predators, stationed along the country's southern and northern borders.

Nonetheless, Amie Stepanovich of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, an advocacy group, pointed out that small, unmanned aircraft are "more maneuverable and quieter than" helicopters and piloted aircraft, and are capable of carrying gigapixel cameras, infrared and thermal imaging technology, automated license plate readers and, soon, facial recognition technology. And some drones have cameras able "to track 65 separate targets over a large radius," she said.

While DHS may be "easing the burden" on police departments with its new program, it is "not providing these agencies with best practices to protect privacy and civil liberties, nor is the agency mandating transparency or accountability in the operation of the drones that it funds" through a separate program, Stepanovich said. "This means that those affected by the proliferation of drones in their communities have no method to discover what drones have been licensed in their area, to whom, or how they are being used."

Such criticisms were very much on Appleby's mind when he spoke about the program at the Counter Terror Expo. The DHS official said government must explain the costs and benefits of the new technology in order to win over a skeptical public already annoyed by increasingly ubiquitous surveillance cameras.

"We have a very tall challenge to change public perception. Otherwise, we'll be stopped cold in our tracks if we don't do this thoughtfully," he said. "We have to bring the public along every step of the way" and convince them "we will not be watching backyards."

Yet even as he acknowledged critics, Appleby beamed over a recently tested wide-area surveillance system that would allow federal border agents to see the entire city of Nogales, Ariz., down to the street level. He called such sensors the "kinds of tools that could be game changers" in dealing with violence along the border.

That sort of persistent ongoing surveillance concerns Egan, the industry consultant. He said defense contractors, faced with a shrinking military market, are lobbying hard to provide "counterinsurgency applications" to local police in order to keep sales up. The question remains whether the DHS test program will prove little more than an enabler.

"Police departments are going to make a big mistake. I don't think the American public is ready for what I call the 'Taliban treatment,'" Egan said. "This is still America."

[mavs>spurs]

Sounds like you'll be working for that last dude soon enough.

won't happen, they don't have jack in the box where i'll be going if it ever came to that. i will do whatever it takes for prosperity and won't settle for less. you really should be a bit more sympathetic towards this nations youth and the hardship that we are all facing.

[ChumpDumper]

arlington is one of the first cities getting the drones. check out the comments on the page you asshole, i'm not the only one who sees what's going on. you're a hopeless apologist and a sheep you deserve what you get when this shit hits the fan.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/drones-dhs-program-unmanned-aircraft-police_n_1537074.htmlI'm not going to read the comments. What do you think is going on?


won't happen, they don't have jack in the box where i'll be going if it ever came to that. i will do whatever it takes for prosperity and won't settle for less. you really should be a bit more sympathetic towards this nations youth and the hardship that we are all facing.Where would you go without any money?

And why is your potential hardship any different from what others are actually facing and dealing with?

But thanks for verifying everything I said you posted. :tu

lol arrogance in victimhood

[baseline bum]

i don't have much sympathy for the liberal arts majors but the engineers and shit who don't have jobs now that pisses me off

Even for UTSA engineers?

[mavs>spurs]

No not for anyone at UTSA lol

[RandomGuy]

They are victims who were forced to get loans and attend expensive schools. :dramaquee

Is there going to be an Occupy Bought too much car? Occupy Lived beyond my means? etc.


Oh well, their victimhood and complete refusal to accept personal responsibility will make them good little Dembots.

IF the school overstates your job opportunties after you get one of their degrees, and offers you loans, based on that information, which seem like good investments, then that job fails to appear, it is all the fault of the student.

Ok.

:rolleyes

Many schools are acting like the mortgage brokers that got us into the mortgage mess. They are giving loans out to anybody, then selling the loans. They keep the tuition and cash flows, and don't have any skin in the game when it comes to repayment, because they have foisted the debt in a collateralized chunk to some investor.

Sound familiar?

[RandomGuy]

arlington is one of the first cities getting the drones. check out the comments on the page you asshole, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/22/drones-dhs-program-unmanned-aircraft-police_n_1537074.html




dont sun bath in the nude anymore.

:rollin


ok. I will try not to do that anymore.

[Yonivore]

i don't have THAT much of a sense of entitlement but i'm not going to be one of those people working for 12 dollars an hour with a degree, there's no point in that and it would never pay back the loans
So, how would such a person pay their bills?

[mavs>spurs]

So, how would such a person pay their bills?

you can't pay bills very well on 12 an hour, what are you trying to say here just spit it out completely

[elbamba]

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Ben Cohen, the co-founder of Ben & Jerry's ice cream, is helping pay for the protest and has raised about $400,000 to fund Occupy-related projects.

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Maybe he should poor that money into resume drafting classes to help these people find a job.

[mavs>spurs]

:lol such a simpleton, yes the reason that all of these people are out of work is because they don't know how to write resume's!! definitely not an issue of politics and macroeconomics :lol i pity you

[johnsmith]

while i chose to live at home feeling like a faggot.



:lmao


Suck less dick and you won't feel like such a faggot.

[johnsmith]

I finished college right before 9/11 and the market was almost as tough to break into then. So I got a real low paying job at a large company and proceeded to work extremely hard. Eventually, people noticed.

10 years later, I'm doing quite well.

You know what I didn't do? Cry.

[mavs>spurs]

:lmao


Suck less dick and you won't feel like such a faggot.

suck cock, motherfucker. staying home wasn't the "cool" or "fun" thing to do, but it got the job done. it was pretty much necessary and i'm glad i did the right thing and don't owe 50,000.

[ChumpDumper]

suck cock, motherfucker. staying home wasn't the "cool" or "fun" thing to do, but it got the job done. it was pretty much necessary and i'm glad i did the right thing and don't owe 50,000.So where are you planning to move if you renounce your citizenship?

[johnsmith]

suck cock, motherfucker..

Don't get mad at me, I'm just pointing out a way in which you can feel like less of a faggot.

You said it yourself, you felt like a faggot.

I've never felt that way, so I assume you were doing something (like sucking dick) that made you feel like one.

[mavs>spurs]

I don't bank on going anywhere at least not immediately, I'm actually very confident I'll get a good job. Probably establish myself here before moving abroad. I'm confident I can find a higher standard if health and living elsewhere.

[johnsmith]

I don't bank on going anywhere at least not immediately, I'm actually very confident I'll get a good job. Probably establish myself here before moving abroad. I'm confident I can find a higher standard if health and living elsewhere.

Not with grammar like that you won't.

[mavs>spurs]

Don't get mad at me, I'm just pointing out a way in which you can feel like less of a faggot.

You said it yourself, you felt like a faggot.

I've never felt that way, so I assume you were doing something (like sucking dick) that made you feel like one.

Meant it as an expression you product of our k-12 education system

[johnsmith]

Meant it as an expression you product of our k-12 education system

At least I have a good job.

[mavs>spurs]

Not with grammar like that you won't.

"I" and "o" happen to be right next to eachother on the keyboard, especially small and close together on a cell phone touch screen. You'll have to excuse Apple, you imbecile.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't bank on going anywhere at least not immediately, I'm actually very confident I'll get a good job. Probably establish myself here before moving abroad. I'm confident I can find a higher standard if health and living elsewhere.But if you don't, what's your plan? You said you'd give it six months before Operation Don't Let the Door Hit My Ass on the Way Out.

[mavs>spurs]

At least I have a good job.

Does your job entail going around acting as a grammar nazi on the Internet?

[johnsmith]

"I" and "o" happen to be right next to eachother on the keyboard, especially small and close together on a cell phone touch screen. You'll have to excuse Apple, you imbecile.

You know what employers really look for in a new candidate? One that uses terms like, "faggot" when describing how he felt while living at home with his parents.

I'd hire you on the spot......faggot.

[mavs>spurs]

But if you don't, what's your plan? You said you'd give it six months before Operation Don't Let the Door Hit My Ass on the Way Out.

My plan is my confidence and abilities but someday I'll end up in buenos aires or someplace in australia.

[johnsmith]

Does your job entail going around acting as a grammar nazi on the Internet?

Based on what happened in this thread and the fact that I'm at work.....I guess it does.

Funny that I've been getting paid while posting for the last 20 minutes in this thread and you haven't.

[mavs>spurs]

You know what employers really look for in a new candidate? One that uses terms like, "faggot" when describing how he felt while living at home with his parents.

I'd hire you on the spot......faggot.

Id have to decline though, seeing as I don't share your homosexual sexual preferences and would be highly skeptical of what kind of "job" you had in mind.

[ChumpDumper]

My plan is my confidence and abilities but someday I'll end up in buenos aires or someplace in australia.But plan B is leaving to those places in six months if you don't get a good job here, right?

[johnsmith]

My plan is my confidence and abilities but someday I'll end up in buenos aires or someplace in australia.

Good luck man, really, I hope it works out for you.

I mean, your confidence and abilities have carried you this far, what's to stop them from getting you to Sydney?

[mavs>spurs]

Based on what happened in this thread and the fact that I'm at work.....I guess it does.

Funny that I've been getting paid while posting for the last 20 minutes in this thread and you haven't.


You're also old am I'm still college age.

Sucks to be you

[johnsmith]

Id have to decline though, seeing as I don't share your homosexual sexual preferences and would be highly skeptical of what kind of "job" you had in mind.

Like I said before, I've never felt like a faggot, which you readily admitted to feeling.

Don't feel bad though, a lot of people are confused about their sexual orientation while living at home with their parents during college.:toast

[mavs>spurs]

But plan B is leaving to those places in six months if you don't get a good job here, right?

Ive decided against doing contingencies at this point. Thanks for your ever reliable concern, I think.

[johnsmith]

You're also old am I'm still college age.

Sucks to be you

I'm not really so sure I'm "old". Early 30's doesn't seem that old, but maybe I'm just out of touch.

I guess I'll just have to settle on being old.......and employed.......

[ChumpDumper]

You're also old am I'm still college age.

Sucks to be youMan college life would have been miserable had I been wrapped up in conspiracy theories and planning on leaving my country.

[mavs>spurs]

Good luck man, really, I hope it works out for you.

I mean, your confidence and abilities have carried you this far, what's to stop them from getting you to Sydney?

My abilities have gotten me very far, I can get into almost any grad school I want to. Life is good, I DO feel sorry for those students less intelligent than myself, though.

[ChumpDumper]

Ive decided against doing contingencies at this point.What changed your mind from yesterday?

Did a drone see what you were posting?

[johnsmith]

Ive decided against doing contingencies at this point. Thanks for your ever reliable concern, I think.

He's just making sure you stick to the plan and leave.

It's called "weeding out".
:blah

[johnsmith]

My abilities have gotten me very far,

Oh yeah, it totally comes across in this thread. I agree.

[mavs>spurs]

I'm not really so sure I'm "old". Early 30's doesn't seem that old, but maybe I'm just out of touch.

I guess I'll just have to settle on being old.......and employed.......

The fact that you view simply being employed in your early 30s as a major accomplishment and use it to brag about it and hold it over the head of a young guy still in college says all we really need to know about you.

[johnsmith]

The fact that you view simply being employed in your early 30s as a major accomplishment and use it to brag about it and hold it over the head of a young guy still in college says all we really need to know about you.

It's not that I view it as a major accomplishment, I just view it as funny because you can't get one.

I hear ya though, they are hard to come by right now. Especially for someone as obviously intelligent as you.

[mavs>spurs]

Oh yeah, it totally comes across in this thread. I agree.

:lol says the petty 30 something year old grammar nazi making unprovoked gay jokes. I didn't address you, you addressed me. Grow up.

[mavs>spurs]

It's not that I view it as a major accomplishment, I just view it as funny because you can't get one.

I hear ya though, they are hard to come by right now. Especially for someone as obviously intelligent as you.

Can't? Buddy, ive taken 39 hours this past year in an attempt to finish I haven't even looked for work because I like to pace myself and not do too much at once although I did turn down an unsolicited offer to be an analyst for Jp morgan

[johnsmith]

:lol says the petty 30 something year old grammar nazi making unprovoked gay jokes. I didn't address you, you addressed me. Grow up.

You feeling like a faggot (like you pointed out earlier in the thread) is nothing to joke about. Young folks like yourself need to explore your inner feelings and figure out the right fit for you. If it turns out you're not gay, well then great, but the good news (and what seems more likely) is that if you go the other way, well, Obama supports you.

[johnsmith]

I did turn down an unsolicited offer to be an analyst for Jp morgan

Well then you keep reaching for the stars chief. You seem to be doing just fine for yourself. If you're lucky, you'll graduate (thanks to your abilities), you'll move down under, find that lucky girl/guy, and really create a life for yourself.

[johnsmith]

Just think too, had you not spent all that time at your parents house trying to "figure things out" earlier on in college, you wouldn't have had to take so many hours during this last year.

That's a lesson learned for you.

[mavs>spurs]

Careful not to thump your bird chest too hard while applauding yourself for your employment. Better not let anyone see those incredibly funny and mature "you're gay'" jokes either or you won't be employed for long :lol

[johnsmith]

Careful not to thump your bird chest too hard while applauding yourself for your employment. Better not let anyone see those incredibly funny and mature "you're gay'" jokes either or you won't be employed for long :lol

Look, I know I'm not on you're level of maturity because I don't use terms like "faggot" to express my feelings, but cut me a little slack, I'm old remember?

[ChumpDumper]

Careful not to thump your bird chest too hard while applauding yourself for your employment. Better not let anyone see those incredibly funny and mature "you're gay'" jokes either or you won't be employed for long :lolThe drones have already seen it all.

[johnsmith]

The drones have already seen it all.

Remember when they were black helicopters?

[mavs>spurs]

Well then you keep reaching for the stars chief. You seem to be doing just fine for yourself. If you're lucky, you'll graduate (thanks to your abilities), you'll move down under, find that lucky girl/guy, and really create a life for yourself.

No luck required, I'm 2 classes away with a 3.9. I think it's a pretty safe bet, but I'd like to thank you as well as your partner for your intense concerns I feel special and important now.

[johnsmith]

No luck required, I'm 2 classes away with a 3.9. .

Plus your abilities right?

Don't ever forget to mention your abilities.

[ChumpDumper]

Remember when they were black helicopters?UN helicopters (how would anyone know they were from the UN?).

And contrails. Can't forget those.

It's always something.

[mavs>spurs]

Just accept the commendation bro, why you Gotta be so bitter? :lol

[johnsmith]

Just accept the commendation bro, why you Gotta be so bitter? :lol

?

[mavs>spurs]

Tyranny and smug ignorance had a lovechild, they named it chump dumper.

Defender of Big Government, because they need to be shielded from big meanies like me :cry

[johnsmith]

I've always thought it funny on the internets that when someone gives up, they start using more and more emoticons at their own jokes.

Carry on.

[mavs>spurs]

?

I thanked you for your dedication and concerns

[ChumpDumper]

Tyranny and smug ignorance had a lovechild, they named it chump dumper.

Defender of Big Government, because they need to be shielded from big meanies like me :cryI asked you to educate me in your own words since you find the situation so grave you talk about renouncing your citizenship.

All I've gotten from you is that you're afraid you won't get a good paying job. That isn't really freedom fighter material tbh.

[clambake]

moving to buenos aires with no money.

nope, can't see anything wrong with that plan.

[ChumpDumper]

moving to buenos aires with no money.

nope, can't see anything wrong with that plan.Yeah, I was getting to that. I think he recognized that flaw.

[mavs>spurs]

You guys are dense. Who said anything about no money? Who said I wouldn't take a Job for a while that I didn't like and just save every paycheck? People migrate all the time guys it isn't rocket science

[ChumpDumper]

You guys are dense. Who said anything about no money? Who said I wouldn't take a Job for a while that I didn't like and just save every paycheck? People migrate all the time guys it isn't rocket scienceActually you said it yesterday. Six months then adios.

[clambake]

Yeah, I was getting to that. I think he recognized that flaw.

he'd better be a hulk badass.

[mavs>spurs]

Actually you said it yesterday. Six months then adios.

Realistically it'd be more like 6 months before I made the decision and began preparations

[ChumpDumper]

Realistically it'd be more like 6 months before I made the decision and began preparations:lol

What if the wrong person sees this?

The drones, man! THE DRONES!

[mavs>spurs]

You like the police militarized against you chump, we know. Makes you feel like a badass allowing to fantasize like you're an Iraqi insurgent, I'm sure in your real life you've never felt this way before.

[ChumpDumper]

You like the police militarized against you chump, we know. Makes you feel like a badass allowing to fantasize like you're an Iraqi insurgent, I'm sure in your real life you've never felt this way before.Have you ever felt like you're an Iraqi insurgent in your real life before?

[mavs>spurs]

You've never felt like a badass in your life is the moral here

[clambake]

yeah, you wimp!

[ChumpDumper]

You've never felt like a badass in your life is the moral hereHow would you know?

I'm asking you specifically: Have you ever felt like you're an Iraqi insurgent in your real life before?

Yes or no.

It was you who implied that somehow people should feel that way in their lives.

[johnsmith]

and just save every paycheck?


And you can do that because you live at home with your parents...........still.

[johnsmith]

Does that mean you're still confused about "you know what"?

[ChumpDumper]

As far as I can tell, m>s is saving himself for a badass Iraqi insurgent.

[CuckingFunt]

My plan is my confidence and abilities


Ive decided against doing contingencies at this point.

That should work out spectacularly.

I hope you'll keep us posted.

[clambake]

That should work out spectacularly.

I hope you'll keep us posted.

:lol

[CuckingFunt]

Remember when they were black helicopters?

March of time.

[mavs>spurs]

That should work out spectacularly.

I hope you'll keep us posted.

:lol cherry picking my posts Nice

[CuckingFunt]

:lol cherry picking my posts Nice

You look better for it, tbh.

The parts I omitted -- the fact your confidence and abilities will take you to far off lands, and a sarcastic thank you, respectively -- weren't really doing you any favors.

[mavs>spurs]

My hopes and dreams are just crushed because some fake dyke on Spurstalk.com doesn't have faith in me. I guess I should just throw away my academic scholarship and drop out 2 classes from graduation. Maybe I can get a Job at Walmart of I'm lucky :lol

[CuckingFunt]

My hopes and dreams are just crushed because some fake dyke on Spurstalk.com doesn't have faith in me.

I bet the liberal arts majors of the world are similarly crushed by your lack of faith in their choice.


I guess I should just throw away my academic scholarship and drop out 2 classes from graduation. Maybe I can get a Job at Walmart of I'm lucky :lol

Seems like a silly thing to do after going to all the trouble of higher education.

But, then, being completely unrealistic in your arrogance seems pretty silly, too.






Also... am I a dyke who is fake? Or am I faking at being a dyke? Your verbiage was unclear.

[MannyIsGod]

These people really piss me off. If the masters program is going to cost you so damn much and you will have a hard time paying it off, WHAT IS THE POINT!?!?!??!?!

I'll graduate soon with some student loan debt but I won't pay a dime for my masters or my PhD.

[clambake]

he's going to buenos aires without money. as a rebel.

r.i.p.

[CuckingFunt]

These people really piss me off.

I'll graduate soon with some student loan debt but I won't pay a dime for my masters or my PhD.

I hardly had any student loan debt at the end of my BA. I'm starting my second masters program in a couple of weeks, and my second free ride, but I've had to take out student loans as a grad student to help with living expenses and to cover all the fees/books/etc. that even tuition remission and a stipend don't cover. Sucks, but it's the choice I've made.

[mavs>spurs]

^you're like 32 you should be established. these are you prime earning years, not your prime borrowing years. no offense, but you should have studied something a bit more lucrative so that you don't have to keep going back for 14 different masters degrees.

[MannyIsGod]

@CF: Exactly. You've made a choice and you should not like a victim because of a choice you made. Thats what these people are doing.

[MannyIsGod]

^you're like 32 you should be established. these are you prime earning years, not your prime borrowing years. no offense, but you should have studied something a bit more lucrative so that you don't have to keep going back for 14 different masters degrees.

How do you know she's going back for money reasons? You're driven by money but don't assume everyone else is.

[CuckingFunt]

^you're like 32 you should be established. these are you prime earning years, not your prime borrowing years. no offense, but you should have studied something a bit more lucrative so that you don't have to keep going back for 14 different masters degrees.

I left a stable job five years ago to go back to school to pursue something I care about. A paycheck isn't everyone's sole motivation.

[mavs>spurs]

I left a stable job five years ago to go back to school to pursue something I care about. A paycheck isn't everyone's sole motivation.

if you cared so much about it, it wouldn't have taken you 5 years

[FuzzyLumpkins]

whats with all the butthurt m<s?

[mavs>spurs]

none at all it's just natural reflex to smack down retards whenever they start spewing their diarrhea of the mouth..i think it's everyone's duty to put stupid people in their place tbh it's good for them and for society

[CuckingFunt]

if you cared so much about it, it wouldn't have taken you 5 years

I went back with only enough transferable credits to make me technically freshman and finished an undergrad program (with two majors and a minor) and a masters program.

If not five years, I'm curious, how long should that have taken me?

[johnsmith]

none at all it's just natural reflex to smack down retards whenever they start spewing their diarrhea of the mouth..i think it's everyone's duty to put stupid people in their place tbh it's good for them and for society

:lmao I'm sure everyone that has posted in this thread agrees too, you have certainly put us all in our place.

Your abilities alone are something to be marveled at.

[mavs>spurs]

Get lives lol

[johnsmith]

Get lives lol

That will teach us.

[mavs>spurs]

Omg stop responding lol

[johnsmith]

Omg stop responding lol

I've always been a fan of posts making fun of other people for posting.

Totally makes sense.

Your abilities are unstoppable.

[mavs>spurs]

Omg

[johnsmith]

Omg

lol stop responding

[mavs>spurs]

Wow

[RandomGuy]

These people really piss me off. If the masters program is going to cost you so damn much and you will have a hard time paying it off, WHAT IS THE POINT!?!?!??!?!

I'll graduate soon with some student loan debt but I won't pay a dime for my masters or my PhD.

Well, save your money, most definitely, and try for as little debt as possible.

Get a job, and save as much as possible.

If you like, PM me, and I can help you sketch out a savings plan.