Django Unchained is going to be good sons

[BRHornet45]

Trailer Released

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sons this Tarantino flick has Oscar bait written all over it. Christopher Waltz is back with Tarantino (from Inglourious Basterds) and DiCaprio is taking on his first villain role as an evil slave owner. they have been filming it here in New Orleans for the last couple of months and should be wrapping up soon. I read the first trailer will be released and showing in theaters before the movie "Prometheus".

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/04/26/django-unchained-01.jpg

http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2012/04/26/django-unchained-02.jpg


"But the standout preview from the event was, hands down, the 7-minute look at Quentin Tarantino‘s labor of love, Django Unchained. The trailer opens with Christoph Waltz as a dentist-turned-bounty hunter, confronting a group of slave owners and then quickly gunning them down with extreme precision. He frees slave Django, played by Jamie Foxx, and takes him under his wing, training him how to use a gun in a Karate Kid-style sequence. The film looks absolutely stunning and exactly what you would expect a spaghetti western would feel like under the direction of Tarantino. His trademark razor-sharp witty dialogue and precise visual gags left the somewhat conservative crowd of critics laughing out loud. Gorgeous vista landscapes contrast a gritty Roots-style aesthetic that will undoubtedly please fans of the firecracker director. Leonardo DiCaprio also looks deliciously villainous as a slave master spouting some evil slangs, with a great southern accent. The final two minutes are edited to the James Brown song Payback, climaxing with Foxx staring dead-eyed at the camera pointing a gun at someone (who was actually the voice of the original Django, Franco Nero) asking him how to pronouce his name. He answers, “It’s Django and the D is silent” …BAM"

http://thefilmstage.com/features/weinsteins-unveil-promising-footage-from-the-master-django-unchained-and-silver-linings-at-cannes/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[Fpoonsie]

:hungry:

[IronMaxipad]

my body is ready

[Creepn]

Bout time shit.

[Spurtacus]

If Tarantino can't land DiCaprio his first Oscar then I don't know who will.

[Kai]

One more reason to go watch Prometheus next week.

[z0sa]

Prometheus awaits.

[Trainwreck2100]

Hopefully waltz kills it in this, I'm tired of him being relegated to villain role.

[BRHornet45]

teaser trailer released today ...

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[AussieFanKurt]

Sons, tarantino is one of the best directors there is in English speaking cinema. Original, doesn't hold back and always interesting stories/characters... lets disregard death proof

[Fpoonsie]

Can't. fuckin'. wait.

[BRHornet45]

sons is he getting some Becky here?

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/6/6/16/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14046-1339013447-3.gif

[midnightpulp]

Django better be dragging around a coffin with a Browning 1917 inside.

[BlairForceDejuan]

Trailer made the movie look pretty stupid imo.

This coming from someone who isn't familiar with the story and not a Tarintino d suka.

[CubanSucks]

Trailer made the movie look pretty stupid imo.

this

I don't doubt that it'll end up being a good movie only because of Tarantino, but if it weren't for his name being on it I would think this looks to be the dumbest pos I've ever seen right after Lincoln: Vampire Hunter

[Thompson]

DiCaprio played a villain in 'Man in the Iron Mask'. He was pretty good, too. You really hated him.

[Spurtacus]

Trailer didn't hit the spot for me...but I own every Tarantino directed movie on blu-ray so I know it will be good.

[AussieFanKurt]

I refuse to watch trailers anymore, they either make the movie look really good, really shit or give too much away so I don't bother

[ace3g]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tgPAQnQAcpk

[AussieFanKurt]

Book it in as the best of 2012

[BRHornet45]

DiCaprio played a villain in 'Man in the Iron Mask'. He was pretty good, too. You really hated him.

son that was before Leo had really developed as an actor. He's been money in pretty much everything he has done since Gangs of NY in my opinion. He gets a little hate from some people still stuck on Titanic, but all you have to do is watch him in films like The Aviator, Revolutionary Road (most underrated performance), The Departed, etc. to see that he is legit. I'm predicting him to steal the show in Django Unchained and finally win his first Oscar. my predictions thus far ...

Lead Actor - Joaquin Phoenix "The Master"
Supporting Actor - Leonardo DiCaprio "Django Unchained"

Best Picture - The Master or .... Les Miserables (the Academy loves this type of crap)


I also think that "Lincoln" is going to receive several nominations, but will fall into the category of a "Benjamin Button, Gangs of NY, etc." to be nominated for several but not win. I think the Spielberg/DDL hype is a bit too much.

[BRHornet45]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tgPAQnQAcpk

the Jonah Hill segment ruined it for me. hopefully its only a very small part.

[BRHornet45]

newest poster ...

http://i48.tinypic.com/vdhd9c.jpg

[AussieFanKurt]

Not out until January 24th here.. FUCKing hell

[The Gemini Method]

Looks like a good one...

I also want to see the Iron Fist movie coming out--that looks like some mindless fun.

[BRHornet45]

another new international trailer ...


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[oh crap]

looks pretty good

[Drachen]

son that was before Leo had really developed as an actor. He's been money in pretty much everything he has done since Gangs of NY in my opinion. He gets a little hate from some people still stuck on Titanic, but all you have to do is watch him in films like The Aviator, Revolutionary Road (most underrated performance), The Departed, etc. to see that he is legit. I'm predicting him to steal the show in Django Unchained and finally win his first Oscar. my predictions thus far ...

Lead Actor - Joaquin Phoenix "The Master"
Supporting Actor - Leonardo DiCaprio "Django Unchained"

Best Picture - The Master or .... Les Miserables (the Academy loves this type of crap)


I also think that "Lincoln" is going to receive several nominations, but will fall into the category of a "Benjamin Button, Gangs of NY, etc." to be nominated for several but not win. I think the Spielberg/DDL hype is a bit too much.

The fucking Master? That movie sucked!

I agree with you about DiCaprio though. I used to make fun of him, but then a time came when I thought, "Oh Leo is in it? Yeah, I'll see it then". It was probably after the aviator.

[BRHornet45]

The fucking Master? That movie sucked!

I agree with you about DiCaprio though. I used to make fun of him, but then a time came when I thought, "Oh Leo is in it? Yeah, I'll see it then". It was probably after the aviator.

those who say The Master "sucked" obviously prefers the likes of Transformers and Batman-like movies. nothing wrong with that by any means, but to say it "sucked" speaks volumes. I can say that it definitely wasn't PTA's strongest film, but it was good and Joaquin Phoenix along with Philip Seymour Hoffman were incredible in it.

[Drachen]

watching the previews I thought "man, this movie looks intriguing". When I asked my wife if she wanted to see it she said "what's it about" I said "I am not sure, but the previews make it look really intriguing". I showed her a preview and she agreed. We went to go see the movie and it kept building and and was interesting and intriguing all the way until the credits. I was intrigued until the credits, then I was let down. If someone asks me what its about I will still say "I'm not sure". It never delivered on its intrigue. It sucked.

[SA210]

I hate to say this, because I'm a Quentin fan, but I'm really not impressed with the trailer at all. Really not a fan of Jamie Fox. I tolerated The Soloist and Any Given Sunday more so because of Al Pacino and Robert Downey Jr. He is a good actor, just not someone I rush to theaters to see. Leo is one of my fave actors of all time, but idk, just feel that this will let me down just like PTA's movie did recently. Lincoln was also good, but didn't seem to meet my expectations either.

These so called Oscar movies aren't cutting it for me. So far movies that have stood out to me this year are Lawless and The Grey.

Hopefully I'm wrong about this film.

[BRHornet45]

Golden Globes Nominations

Best Motion Picture - Drama
Best Director - Quentin Tarantino
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role - Leonardo DiCaprio
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role - Christoph Waltz
Best Screenplay - Quentin Tarantino


my only complaint about this movie is that phony Jamie Foxx is in it. dude does one good impersonation of Ray Charles and is considered (by some and few) a legit actor. I just hope that he doesn't ruin it. this film would have been so much better if Will Smith had taken the role when Tarantino offered it to him.

[leemajors]

Golden Globes Nominations

Best Motion Picture - Drama
Best Director - Quentin Tarantino
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role - Leonardo DiCaprio
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role - Christoph Waltz
Best Screenplay - Quentin Tarantino


my only complaint about this movie is that phony Jamie Foxx is in it. dude does one good impersonation of Ray Charles and is considered (by some and few) a legit actor. I just hope that he doesn't ruin it. this film would have been so much better if Will Smith had taken the role when Tarantino offered it to him.

Booty Call was money sons

[Creepn]

Will Smith in the role? Naah. Of course Brhornet would pick Will Smith though. Lmao.

[Creepn]

Booty Call was money sons

You my e-friend now.

[Avante]

It's not going to reach the heights many here think it will. A good movie worth the time and $$$$$ but it will end there.

I do think a good western is as good as it gets however. Those great western writers on a par with anyone.

TV needs a great western.

[Trill Clinton]

i'll see it after christmas.

just in case some socially awkward white male decides to shoot up the theater on opening night.

best believe i will be in that mofo strapped up just in case.

[SA210]

I'd prefer Denzel over the overrated Jamie Fox any day

[mavs>spurs]

jamie foxx is a racist n!gger the stupid racist stuff he's been saying lately has already been old since before he opened his fat lip nigga mouth..won't be watching fuck him and his movie

[BRHornet45]

Will Smith in the role? Naah. Of course Brhornet would pick Will Smith though. Lmao.

son I didn't pick anyone. If you would pay attention and educate yourself then you would know that Tarantino wrote the role of Django for Will Smith. He claims that he was too busy filming Men in Black to do it though.

[BRHornet45]

I'd prefer Denzel over the overrated Jamie Fox any day

son pretty much any black actor out there would be better than Jamie Foxx. he is the most overrated actor in the business hands down. my choice for the role would have been this man ...

Djimon Hounsou

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1165268/photo_28.jpg

[SA210]

son pretty much any black actor out there would be better than Jamie Foxx. he is the most overrated actor in the business hands down. my choice for the role would have been this man ...

Djimon Hounsou

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1165268/photo_28.jpg

Can't believe I didn't think of him. Yup, he would have guaranteed I'd be at the midnight showing. Jamie Foxx however puts my urgency to watch it on hold.

[ALVAREZ6]

Yeah the decision to use Jamie Foxx seems strange, not something I would expect.

[Drachen]

Yeah the decision to use Jamie Foxx seems strange, not something I would expect.

Leo really wants an award, no one to outshine him.

[BRHornet45]

Yeah the decision to use Jamie Foxx seems strange, not something I would expect.

its just impossible to take him serious on screen. his acting skills are below average and borderline comical. I'm being dead serious with what I am about to say and yes its absurd .... but I would rather see Tyler Perry in this role over Jamie Faux and I guarantee you he would do a better job.

the only reason Jamie Faux is considered by some in the industry as a legit actor is quite simple. back in 2005 the Academy was feeling a ton of pressure to boost black actors to win the Oscar because they had been under scrutiny for quite sometime about the lack of black actors/actresses winning. they said ... "hey Jamie Foxx does a really good impersonation of Ray Charles and also had a supporting role in Collateral with Tom Cruise ... lets nominate him for both films in the same year and let him win for Ray in order to prove we're not racist. we'll call him "actor of the year"."

[Creepn]

Or maybe he really did nail down those roles? Not everything is about race. I thought he was good in Ali too.

Btw, movie would've been too serious with Hounsou imo.

[BRHornet45]

Or maybe he really did nail down those roles? Not everything is about race. I thought he was good in Ali too.

Btw, movie would've been too serious with Hounsou imo.

son he nailed "Ray" because all that was asked of him was to make an impersonation of a singer. he didn't act at all in that movie and for the few acting moments that he did have in it, well ... you could find better acting on the Lifetime Movie Channel. he also was not worthy of an Oscar nomination in "Collateral" as well. there was absolutely nothing about his "performance" in Collateral that stands out in any way shape or form. there is a reason why that was the only year he was ever recognized with awards and hasn't even been nominated for anything ever since. the Academy was pressured with the race card and they caved in.

put it this way ... you could walk down the Las Vegas Strip right now at this very moment and within 10 minutes you would find countless street musicians impersonating the likes of Elvis, Michael Jackson, etc. who do just as good and likely better of a job than Jamie Foxx did with Ray Charles. again ... he did a great job as a musician impersonating Ray Charles, but impersonating is not acting.

[Trill Clinton]

son he nailed "Ray" because all that was asked of him was to make an impersonation of a singer. he didn't act at all in that movie and for the few acting moments that he did have in it, well ... you could find better acting on the Lifetime Movie Channel. he also was not worthy of an Oscar nomination in "Collateral" as well. there was absolutely nothing about his "performance" in Collateral that stands out in any way shape or form. there is a reason why that was the only year he was ever recognized with awards and hasn't even been nominated for anything ever since. the Academy was pressured with the race card and they caved in.

put it this way ... you could walk down the Las Vegas Strip right now at this very moment and within 10 minutes you would find countless street musicians impersonating the likes of Elvis, Michael Jackson, etc. who do just as good and likely better of a job than Jamie Foxx did with Ray Charles. again ... he did a great job as a musician impersonating Ray Charles, but impersonating is not acting.

come on fam, he impersonated ray charles better than anybody imagined and he acted his ass off in that movie. give jamie his credit, he's a legit actor.

[SA210]

its just impossible to take him serious on screen. his acting skills are below average and borderline comical. I'm being dead serious with what I am about to say and yes its absurd .... but I would rather see Tyler Perry in this role over Jamie Faux and I guarantee you he would do a better job.

the only reason Jamie Faux is considered by some in the industry as a legit actor is quite simple. back in 2005 the Academy was feeling a ton of pressure to boost black actors to win the Oscar because they had been under scrutiny for quite sometime about the lack of black actors/actresses winning. they said ... "hey Jamie Foxx does a really good impersonation of Ray Charles and also had a supporting role in Collateral with Tom Cruise ... lets nominate him for both films in the same year and let him win for Ray in order to prove we're not racist. we'll call him "actor of the year"."

:lol a nomination for Collateral was pure bs. he did NOTHING special in that movie, absolutely NOTHING! I thought he was really good in Ali, pretty decent in The Soloist, but that's about as much as I can tolerate him.

[BRHornet45]

come on fam, he impersonated ray charles better than anybody imagined and he acted his ass off in that movie. give jamie his credit, he's a legit actor.

nominating, much less giving an award to Jamie Foxx for any of his films is equivalent to Tyler Perry winning an Oscar for Alex Cross this year.

[Creepn]

nominating, much less giving an award to Jamie Foxx for any of his films is equivalent to Tyler Perry winning an Oscar for Alex Cross this year.

Lol that's bullshit. You just trollin now.

[lefty]

Looks like a total POS movie

[BRHornet45]

sons this shit did not disappoint.

[TimDunkem]

Looks like a total POS movie
Typical shit take from the shittiest poster on these forums...The movie was amazing.

[DeadlyDynasty]

JF was great in Ray no doubt, but gmafb with Collateral.

[ALVAREZ6]

I enjoyed. Wild movie.

[dirk4mvp]

excellent movie, highlighted by DiCaprio's character, imho.


the worst part easily was the black folk in the theater clapping and rooting for Django anytime he got a hand up on whitey. sad to see racism so prevalent today.

[DesignatedT]

I liked it. It was on Inglorious Bastard level.

I thought Jamie Foxx played the role well. I think they went with him (and wanted Smith) because the role comes with a lot of comedy involved. Not sure some of those other black actors like Djimon Hounsou or Michael Williams could have pulled that aspect of it off as well.

Christoph Waltz is so awesome though.

[Spurminator]

Shoulda offered Wayne Brady the part, imo.

[DesignatedT]

Wayne Brady should off himself.

[CuckingFunt]

Fucking loved it.

Every single one of the trailers that was attached made me fear for the upcoming months of cinema, though.

[Creepn]

the worst part easily was the black folk in the theater clapping and rooting for Django anytime he got a hand up on whitey. sad to see racism so prevalent today.

Lol. Maybe because it was the good guy sticking it to the bad guy?

[Jacob1983]

I was glad that Christoph Waltz was not playing an American in the movie because it would have been really hard to convince the audience that he was playing an American because of his accent. He should get another Oscar or at least an Oscar nomination for this movie. I would give Leo a nomination too.

[leemajors]

https://twitter.com/pattonoswalt/status/284535952213434368

[DeadlyDynasty]

excellent movie, highlighted by DiCaprio's character, imho.


the worst part easily was the black folk in the theater clapping and rooting for Django anytime he got a hand up on whitey. sad to see racism so prevalent today.

Forget rooting and clapping, they just talk right though the entire fucking movie. When I saw Lincoln last month there was a gaggle of silverbacks a couple rows in front of us who would not stfu. This is a movie about a guy who set them free--and one of the only white people of the 19th century to give a shit about them--yet they cant stop yapping during the film.

[Creepn]

Lincoln didn't give a shit about blacks. Blacks were just pawns in a chess game.

[Trill Clinton]

sorry, won't be supporting this spaghetti western mockery of slavery.

[cantthinkofanything]

Forget rooting and clapping, they just talk right though the entire fucking movie. When I saw Lincoln last month there was a gaggle of silverbacks a couple rows in front of us who would not stfu. This is a movie about a guy who set them free--and one of the only white people of the 19th century to give a shit about them--yet they cant stop yapping during the film.

Fuck. It's a complete lack of respect. They will also sit there and text and use their cell phone. Doesn't matter who is around them. And some white people do this as well but the majority that I've seen are blacks.

[Dark Gable]

Fuck. It's a complete lack of respect. They will also sit there and text and use their cell phone. Doesn't matter who is around them. And some white people do this as well but the majority that I've seen are blacks.

That is pure BS. Most obnoxioius people with phones are whites. Period.

[cantthinkofanything]

That is pure BS. Most obnoxioius people with phones are whites. Period.

no way...not in the fucking movie theater.
maybe the white teen comes close but I've seen blacks of all ages looking at their phone on and off throughout the whole movies.
that's if it doesn't bother me. if the light gets in my eyes, I'll jerk the phone out of their hands and keep it until the show is over.

[cantthinkofanything]

obnoxioius

LOL, you spelled it just like they say it.

[DeadlyDynasty]

To be more specific, black women are the worst moviegoers. Black dudes get a bad rap at the movies b/c they spend the entire time answering questions and having to explain the movie to their g/f, because bonequeesha can't keep up.

Theyre (black women) also the ONLY demographic who verbalizes their emotions during a movie. "Oh shit! Look behind you!"

[Trill Clinton]

no way...not in the fucking movie theater.
maybe the white teen comes close but I've seen blacks of all ages looking at their phone on and off throughout the whole movies.
that's if it doesn't bother me. if the light gets in my eyes, I'll jerk the phone out of their hands and keep it until the show is over.


:lol

[Creepn]

CTOA, must be one of those gun carrying white men if he got the balls to jack a phone out of someone's hands.

[cantthinkofanything]

CTOA, must be one of those gun carrying white men if he got the balls to jack a phone out of someone's hands.

nah...I don't take a gun to the movies. just a couple of loaded fists. but most of the time, they are more than happy just to get their phone back at the end of the movie.
no need for violence. let's just enjoy the show and let others do the same.

[leemajors]

nah...I don't take a gun to the movies. just a couple of loaded fists. but most of the time, they are more than happy just to get their phone back at the end of the movie.
no need for violence. let's just enjoy the show and let others do the same.

have you ever been in a movie where people yelling made it better?

[cantthinkofanything]

have you ever been in a movie where people yelling made it better?

No I haven't. I'm not sure what your point is.

[Spurminator]

Well in my experience, there have been chatty asshole moviegoers of all races (usually youth is the common denominator), but it's usually a black guy that tells them to STFU.

[leemajors]

No I haven't. I'm not sure what your point is.

I saw Anaconda with people yelling "YOU GONNA DIE" at the screen and it was awesome.

[cantthinkofanything]

I saw Anaconda with people yelling "YOU GONNA DIE" at the screen and it was awesome.

LMAO. I guess the movies where people yelling make it better are the kind of movies that I wait for DVD.

[leemajors]

LMAO. I guess the movies where people yelling make it better are the kind of movies that I wait for DVD.

I don't really go to the theater any more anyways, but in the right environment it is fine. I got shushed for laughing hysterically during Hannibal's envelope sniffing scene.

[cantthinkofanything]

I don't really go to the theater any more anyways, but in the right environment it is fine. I got shushed for laughing hysterically during Hannibal's envelope sniffing scene.

same here. now about 90% of the movies I see at the theater are cartoons.

[chunticakes]

just saw the movie and fortunately it was just me and this old fuck in the theater. even though he kept coughing throughout...

in any event i loved it, not quite sure why a black supremacist like you wouldn't see it trill...the brotha is actually the protagonist in this one....

[lebomb]

All races fuck up a movie.........I saw Django christmas night. The black dude next to me laughed at everything. Shit that wasnt close to funny. The hispanic guy and white girl in front of me, stayed on their phone texting and FBing the whole movie. The black couple next to them watched the movie like normal mufuckas. The white dude on the other side did the same. So stop the bullshit. All races are fugged up.

[Trill Clinton]

just saw the movie and fortunately it was just me and this old fuck in the theater. even though he kept coughing throughout...

in any event i loved it, not quite sure why a black supremacist like you wouldn't see it trill...the brotha is actually the protagonist in this one....

i will watch the film, online.

i will NOT put money in QT's racist pockets while he makes a mockery about a very sensitive time in african american history.

plus i heard that nigga jaime just a sidekick to his "white savior" doctor what's his name.

[DeadlyDynasty]

All races fuck up a movie.........I saw Django christmas night. The black dude next to me laughed at everything. Shit that wasnt close to funny. The hispanic guy and white girl in front of me, stayed on their phone texting and FBing the whole movie. The black couple next to them watched the movie like normal mufuckas. The white dude on the other side did the same. So stop the bullshit. All races are fugged up. Remember your posting style of the past few days? Go back to that.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

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[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Lincoln didn't give a shit about blacks. Blacks were just pawns in a chess game.

Agreed I wish he was president today

Abraham Lincoln Quote“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.”
by:
Abraham Lincoln
(1809-1865) 16th US President
Source:
Fourth Debate with Stephen A. Douglas at Charleston, Illinois, September 18, 1858
(The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume III, pp. 145-146.)

[Creepn]

^Daaaamn! Never read that before. Did they show that in the movie?

[dirk4mvp]

i will watch the film, online.

i will NOT put money in QT's racist pockets while he makes a mockery about a very sensitive time in african american history.

plus i heard that nigga jaime just a sidekick to his "white savior" doctor what's his name.


if he really was racist he wouldn't have allowed himself to be killed by a black guy in his own movie.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Was that Tarantino paying homage with his KKK bumbling scene to Mel Brooks bumbling Cowboy bad guys in the desert at the toll booth in Blazing Saddles?

Or Tarantino paying homage to himself with that scene at the end where the plantation residents walking side by side up the road toward the mansion to the scene in Resovoir Dogs where the men are walking side by side?

[Trill Clinton]

if he really was racist he wouldn't have allowed himself to be killed by a black guy in his own movie.

sure he would.

why does he always have to throw n!gger around in EVERY movie?

he finds some ways to sneak that shit in in every movie, doggie.

he even had a brotha get raped by gay cac in pulp fiction.

i peeped QT's racist ways a long time ago.

[dirk4mvp]

sure he would.

why does he always have to throw n!gger around in EVERY movie?

he finds some ways to sneak that shit in in every movie, doggie.

Lo
that's not relevant to this movie. do you think the word ###### was an often used word in the south in 1858? Looks to me like Tarantino was just going for historical accuracy.

[Trill Clinton]

Lo
that's not relevant to this movie. do you think the word ###### was an often used word in the south in 1858? Looks to me like Tarantino was just going for historical accuracy.

@the bold-i'm not saying it is.

i didn't support his racist movies then and i'm not support a spaghetti western slave movie either.

fuck that cracka and the coons who acted in it.

[CuckingFunt]

i will watch the film, online.

i will NOT put money in QT's racist pockets while he makes a mockery about a very sensitive time in african american history.

plus i heard that nigga jaime just a sidekick to his "white savior" doctor what's his name.

Your understanding of the film is exactly what I would expect from someone who hasn't watched it.

[Trill Clinton]

Your understanding of the film is exactly what I would expect from someone who hasn't watched it.

and i expected white folk to come out in droves to support a spaghetti western slavery movie.

there are critics who have seen the film who share the same sentiments as i do.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-django-reax-2-20121228,0,1771716.story

[Fpoonsie]

and i expected white folk to come out in droves to support a spaghetti western slavery movie.

there are critics who have seen the film who share the same sentiments as i do.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-django-reax-2-20121228,0,1771716.story

Hilarious that the writer thinks Basterds is ok dealing with Jews plight as the theme (some 70 or so years ago) while Django is "disrespectful" in dealing with an issue abolished more than twice as long ago. :cry

[Trill Clinton]

Hilarious that the writer thinks Basterds is ok dealing with Jews plight as the theme (some 70 or so years ago) while Django is "disrespectful" in dealing with an issue abolished more than twice as long ago. :cry

the writer never mentioned anything about basters being okay.

the writer did quote a black film critic who said the following:

Where "Basterds" arguably works as both social commentary and entertainment, he said, "Django" doesn't because blacks as a group are still so compromised by racism. "The surreal liftoff that happens at some point in 'Basterds' doesn't happen here, because of the weight of what's still real," he said. "For example, there's a certain racial backlash to Obama that's still going on. Quentin wants this to be a dark comedy (http://www.latimes.com/topic/arts-culture/genres/comedy-%28genre%29-010000000943.topic), but with [black] history the way it is, you can't get from here to there in a movie. There's no ill intention on his part, but it doesn't work. The movie can't rest."

there were no scenes of concentration camps or jews being killed and punished in basterds.

meanhile in bojangles unchained, we see slaves being beat, killed and tortured.

i wouldn't expect non blacks to understand why some blacks find this film disrespectful to our history.

:cryblacks have been recognized as equal for 50 years now, why won't they just let bygones be bygones:cry

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lmaobojangles unchained

[Bill_Brasky]

oh look the race card is being played

[chunticakes]

im not gonna go see django because it's too racist :cry

[BRHornet45]

and i expected white folk to come out in droves to support a spaghetti western slavery movie.

there are critics who have seen the film who share the same sentiments as i do.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/moviesnow/la-et-django-reax-2-20121228,0,1771716.story

son the theater I was in was about 70% black. most educated people will understand this film. the ignorant bigots like yourself won't.

white bigots will claim - "I ain't watching that black power movie about ni**ers getting revenge and killing us!"

black bigots will claim - "I ain't watching no racist ass white boy movie about mocking slavery"

open your eyes dumbass or else shut the fuck up and go watch another garbage ass Spike Lee movie to make yourself feel better ... I'm sure his irrelevant ass is crying about it along with you as usual.

[Trill Clinton]

oh look the race card is being played
oh look an irrelevant poster.


son the theater I was in was about 70% black. most educated people will understand this film. the ignorant bigots like yourself won't.

white bigots will claim - "I ain't watching that black power movie about ni**ers getting revenge and killing us!"

black bigots will claim - "I ain't watching no racist ass white boy movie about mocking slavery"

open your eyes dumbass or else shut the fuck up and go watch another garbage ass Spike Lee movie to make yourself feel better ... I'm sure his irrelevant ass is crying about it along with you as usual.

i don't give a damn how many black folks was in the theater doggie.

just a bunch of shuckin' n jivin' coons grinning from ear to ear laughing at some cac make a mockery of a holocaust of my people.

enlightened brothas such as myself and spike refuse to be bamboozled(classic spike lee joint i'm sure you haven't seen)

i don't know why its such a surprise that some blacks refuse to fall for the okie doke like you gullable uncle toms.

there was no underlying message to blacks in this film.

all it is is a spaghetti western slave story with the usual QT revenge plot, mixed with humor and witty dialogue to keep coons such as yourself entertained.

[Jacob1983]

This movie is about gun fighting, bounty hunting, and slavery in 1850s America. You're gonna see racism and and hear the n-word. If you can't handle that, don't watch the fuckin' movie and continue to be a sensitive pussy.

[CuckingFunt]

the writer never mentioned anything about basters being okay.

the writer did quote a black film critic who said the following:

Where "Basterds" arguably works as both social commentary and entertainment, he said, "Django" doesn't because blacks as a group are still so compromised by racism. "The surreal liftoff that happens at some point in 'Basterds' doesn't happen here, because of the weight of what's still real," he said. "For example, there's a certain racial backlash to Obama that's still going on. Quentin wants this to be a dark comedy (http://www.latimes.com/topic/arts-culture/genres/comedy-%28genre%29-010000000943.topic), but with [black] history the way it is, you can't get from here to there in a movie. There's no ill intention on his part, but it doesn't work. The movie can't rest."


The statement implies that the narrative of Inglorious Basterds was less problematic because, unlike racism against African Americans, Antisemitism is no longer an issue. Which is stupid. Oppression isn't a contest. And racism, as well as the general system of power/privilege/oppression, cannot be defined as only one group of people doing bad things to only one other group of people. Just because this one African American critic relates more personally and specifically to instances of racism against blacks in this country doesn't mean it's valid to suggest that Antisemitism is less real or less important an issue.

Finding Django Unchained problematic without seeing the same issues in Inglorious Basterds reeks of intellectual dishonesty.


there were no scenes of concentration camps or jews being killed and punished in basterds.

Why would there have been scenes of the concentration camps? There was no narrative reason to do so. The opening scene, however, in which Landa delivers a long speech comparing Jews to rats and then violently shooting up a whole group of them being hidden by the French dairy farmer shows quite a few of them being killed and punished.


in bojangles unchained, we see slaves being beat, killed and tortured.

Because the main character is a former slave.

And slaves were beaten, killed, and tortured. Pretty brutally. Sugarcoating that fact would (and has historically been) every bit as problematic as calling attention to it.

The treatment of slaves is not played for laughs, however. Not even for a second. I find the comments made by Tarantino and others about the film's important social commentary to be a tad overblown (just as I did with similar comments regarding Kill Bill's inherent feminism), but it's true that the scenes of violence against slaves are at no point meant to be anything other than brutal and uncomfortable and stand out as sobering moments in an otherwise darkly comic film. Tarantino's staging and direction of the action and the violent moments throughout the entire movie make it VERY clear that Django's revenge is intended to be entertaining in a way that the violence enacted upon him and the other slaves is not.


i wouldn't expect non blacks to understand why some blacks find this film disrespectful to our history.

And I wouldn't expect someone who hasn't watched a film to have a clue what they're talking about when they try to list its flaws.

[Trill Clinton]

lol a bunch of white folks telling a black man he shouldn't be offended someone trivialized slavery into a spaghetti western.

i'm done.

[johnsmith]

lol a bunch of white folks telling a black man he shouldn't be offended someone trivialized slavery into a spaghetti western.

i'm done.

You're the biggest racist fuck on this site, and frankly, you come off as a horrible human being. Also, lol at the "irrelevant poster" comment you made....taking the internets a bit serious don't ya think you fuck?


I'm also questioning based on how stupid your argument has been in this thread if you're really black at all....I mean, we know you're an idiot, we know you're racist, but black????

[Trill Clinton]

i'm the biggest racist on this site?

http://i50.tinypic.com/21268g8.png

why do people think black folk don't have internet access? no one wants to believe blacks post on internet forums too lol.

sorry john, but i'm not posting a photo of myself for another male online. you might not even be a man for all i know.

[johnsmith]

i'm the biggest racist on this site?

http://i50.tinypic.com/21268g8.png

why do people think black folk don't have internet access? no one wants to believe blacks post on internet forums too lol.

sorry john, but i'm not posting a photo of myself for another male online. you might not even be a man for all i know.

I don't recall asking you to post a picture of yourself you stupid racist fuck.....now quick, log back in and respond.

[CuckingFunt]

lol a bunch of white folks telling a black man he shouldn't be offended someone trivialized slavery into a spaghetti western.

I'm not telling you that you shouldn't be offended. I'm telling you that, without watching the film for yourself, you're in no position to comment on whether or not the film trivializes slavery.


i'm done.

Criticizing a movie without seeing it? You were done before you started.

[leemajors]

I wonder if he will get bored of doing revenge films anytime soon. I would consider maybe seeing another one of his movies if he did.

[Bill_Brasky]

oh look an irrelevant poster.



i don't give a damn how many black folks was in the theater doggie.

just a bunch of shuckin' n jivin' coons grinning from ear to ear laughing at some cac make a mockery of a holocaust of my people.

enlightened brothas such as myself and spike refuse to be bamboozled(classic spike lee joint i'm sure you haven't seen)

i don't know why its such a surprise that some blacks refuse to fall for the okie doke like you gullable uncle toms.

there was no underlying message to blacks in this film.

all it is is a spaghetti western slave story with the usual QT revenge plot, mixed with humor and witty dialogue to keep coons such as yourself entertained.

Translation: my vagina is so sensitive that I can't enjoy a good action movie without getting up in arms about something incredibly trivial. There are some pretty decent examples of racism in this country, this isn't one of them.

[Creepn]

You're the biggest racist fuck on this site, and frankly, you come off as a horrible human being.



I understand Trill is militant in his views regarding race but you can't possibly think he's the most racist poster on this board.

[johnsmith]

I understand Trill is militant in his views regarding race but you can't possibly think he's the most racist poster on this board.

Honestly, do you see anyone else play the race card more often and more quickly than him?

[Trill Clinton]

Translation: my vagina is so sensitive that I can't enjoy a good action movie without getting up in arms about something incredibly trivial. There are some pretty decent examples of racism in this country, this isn't one of them.
i guess man.

[Creepn]

Honestly, do you see anyone else play the race card more often and more quickly than him?

He pulled the race card about how he feels towards a movie and not about a race in particular. How is that more racist than the usual crop of people who post daily racial slurs and innuendo specifically about a race?

[Koolaid_Man]

Honestly, do you see anyone else play the race card more often and more quickly than him?

let me raise my hand and volunteer myself....

I won't judge the movie per se until I watch it myself...and I thoroughly enjoyed Inglorious Bastards...the reason I enjoyed it is because I was happy to see the Jews getting revenge against the Nazi's....however, given all the racism by white America I doubt white people watched Django Unchained and felt the way I did while watching Inglorious bastards...I doubt whites wanted to see the slave getting his revenge against the white slave evil doers in Django...they wouldn't want to see this because they think it would encourage blacks to seek revenge against the foul shit white people do to them even to this day...See it's ok for white America to celebrate other human tragedies thorough out history as long as they're not the ones that perpetrated the evil act...but if some other group (Germans) is responsible then by all means build a Holocaust museum and celebrate so that we never forget it...but when it comes to slavery...ohhh well blacks should just forget about it and just move on and stop re-hashing old wounds... I suspect some of the sensitivity in the black community is largely based on white people's nonchalant, lackadaisical, and flat out don't give a a fuck attitude about the historical suffering of blacks...but when it's a seemingly cool movie about slavery and suffering then all of a sudden the subject becomes hip and cool to white people... The problem is America never really apologized for what they did to the African slaves...they simply pivoted to Christianity, along with the industrial and technology revolutions...

I think Tarantino is far from a racist and self hater like BR Hornet and quite a few others that post here are... and I think he's a great director.. I will watch the movie at some point soon...but my view above stands and I'm pretty sure that my hypothesis is pretty much spot on...

[Huey Freeman]

Mistake

[Huey Freeman]

Honestly, do you see anyone else play the race card more often and more quickly than him?

Maybe not, but there are alot worse racists on the board by far imo.

[DeadlyDynasty]

There's really only one tried and true racist on this board.

[rogues]

There's really only one tried and true racist on this board.
who?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Think of the most ignorant person on this board (besides me)--i mean ignorant to everything.

[TDMVPDPOY]

without slavery or colonization by europeans....most of the ethnic minorities on this site would still be living in the jungle, to tell me if ethnic minorities didnt benefit from the white settlers then ur a biggot....even today u still have countries colonize or not by white settlers still live like they are in the jungle or just wouldnt assimilate into western society

[Creepn]

without slavery or colonization by europeans....most of the ethnic minorities on this site would still be living in the jungle, to tell me if ethnic minorities didnt benefit from the white settlers then ur a biggot....even today u still have countries colonize or not by white settlers still live like they are in the jungle or just wouldnt assimilate into western society

Africa was doing fine before the colonizations. How is it now?

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Africa was doing fine before the colonizations. How is it now?

are you saying you'd rather be living as a hunter-gatherer today?

[Koolaid_Man]

are you saying you'd rather be living as a hunter-gatherer today?

The whole argument is nothing but a straw-man built on the racist ideology that all blacks lived in an uncivilized society incapable of invention...and history proves that's clearly not the case....whites have been largely successful at presenting black imagery of what things could have been and then passing that off as reality in collegiate text books. In other words they hide the truth...and prop up certain whites as inventors while hiding the true identity of the talented...I often use this a good example because it goes to the heart of modern American medicine and science built off the back of the unsuspecting black and passed off as a white donor...

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Henrietta-Lacks-Immortal-Cells.html

so basically if those Africans were allowed to nurture and develop their scientists, architects, and doctors instead of them being killed at sea or during slavery then your theory of tribalism (which coincidentally existed throughout ALL of Europe) would fall flat

[BRHornet45]

the black women in the theater went crazy when this song came on for about 20-40 seconds. I'm surprised Tarantino allowed a rap song in the movie.

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[Jacob1983]

Still bitching about this movie? Pathetic. It's a damn movie. It's fiction. Get over it. Where is Edward Norton from 25th Hour when you need him?

[CuckingFunt]

I'm surprised Tarantino allowed a rap song in the movie.

Why? He had Rza do the original score and produce the soundtrack album for Kill Bill v. 1. Clearly it's a world/genre to which he's already proved himself open.

[lebomb]

Remember your posting style of the past few days? Go back to that.

OK, no problem. STFU!!!! There.

[TDMVPDPOY]

The whole argument is nothing but a straw-man built on the racist ideology that all blacks lived in an uncivilized society incapable of invention...and history proves that's clearly not the case....whites have been largely successful at presenting black imagery of what things could have been and then passing that off as reality in collegiate text books. In other words they hide the truth...and prop up certain whites as inventors while hiding the true identity of the talented...I often use this a good example because it goes to the heart of modern American medicine and science built off the back of the unsuspecting black and passed off as a white donor...

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Henrietta-Lacks-Immortal-Cells.html

so basically if those Africans were allowed to nurture and develop their scientists, architects, and doctors instead of them being killed at sea or during slavery then your theory of tribalism (which coincidentally existed throughout ALL of Europe) would fall flat

b4 whites came into africa, did africa have any of those services and professionals? they still dont today without white intervention....has africa had any advancement in its history worth talkin about??

[Creepn]

b4 whites came into africa, did africa have any of those services and professionals? they still dont today without white intervention....has africa had any advancement in its history worth talkin about??

You're a fucking idiot. The pyramids aren't architectual achievements? There were castles and Kingdoms all over Africa that I'm quite positive were built without the precious white man. Commerce and education was prevalent. The most prominent would be Timbuktu. When Timbuktu was invaded guess what happened to the scholars? They were slaughtered.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You're a fucking idiot. The pyramids aren't architectual achievements? There were castles and Kingdoms all over Africa that I'm quite positive were built without the precious white man. Commerce and education was prevalent. The most prominent would be Timbuktu. When Timbuktu was invaded guess what happened to the scholars? They were slaughtered.

:lol were you deliberately trying to make it obvious this history lesson was pulled straight from the song "I know I can" or were you hoping no one would notice?

[TDMVPDPOY]

You're a fucking idiot. The pyramids aren't architectual achievements? There were castles and Kingdoms all over Africa that I'm quite positive were built without the precious white man. Commerce and education was prevalent. The most prominent would be Timbuktu. When Timbuktu was invaded guess what happened to the scholars? They were slaughtered.

pyramids architectual improvements? castles and kindoms in africa......so how come i dont see any improvements today in africa?

[Koolaid_Man]

pyramids architectual improvements? castles and kindoms in africa......so how come i dont see any improvements today in africa?

^ :lol because you aren't looking for any....you're only perpetrating what people tell you and the negative images...98% of all African countries are industrialized...of course there's still some tribalism and mud hut living...along with very poor areas but that's only half the rule now while modernization is half the exception...I lived in Africa for a year post college I'm qualified to speak on the subject...

[Bill_Brasky]

:lol were you deliberately trying to make it obvious this history lesson was pulled straight from the song "I know I can" or were you hoping no one would notice?

Based on his history, I think the second option is more likely. :lmao

[The Reckoning]

tbh ancient egypt was more mediterranean than sub-saharan, which is where the slave trade operated.

also, timbuktu was invaded by another african kingdom.

but youre right that the slave trade ruined african kingdoms because they became warring states to fulfill the lucrative demand for slaves. i wouldnt say it's neither "whites" nor "blacks" fault but purely inefficient pre-industrial economics.

[Creepn]

tbh ancient egypt was more mediterranean than sub-saharan, which is where the slave trade operated.

also, timbuktu was invaded by another african kingdom.

but youre right that the slave trade ruined african kingdoms because they became warring states to fulfill the lucrative demand for slaves. i wouldnt say it's neither "whites" nor "blacks" fault but purely inefficient pre-industrial economics.
You trying to tell me that the European colonizations had no long term negative affects on Africa?

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

lol I love it when blacks try to claim "we beez Egyupshuns an sheeit" while all of the pharaohs they unearth test for European DNA and none of the tombs or statues have the wide nostrils or ape faces. Keep thinking you didn't come from tribes of spear chucking savages that never invented the wheel or a written language.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

lol I love it when blacks try to claim "we beez Egyupshuns an sheeit" while all of the pharaohs they unearth test for European DNA and none of the tombs or statues have the wide nostrils or ape faces. Keep thinking you didn't come from tribes of spear chucking savages that never invented the wheel or a written language.

:lol is this the same person who used to post under Roddy Bukkake?

[mingus]

You trying to tell me that the European colonizations had no long term negative affects on Africa?

Ever been to Ethiopia? I believe it is the only African country not to have been colonized, and in terms of pretty much every standard that measures comfort of living/welfare it absolutely sucks. That said, I think that country and a lot of African countries suck by western standards because of their corrupt leaders. I've gone Africa many times because I love it and the people (who I envy and try to learn from in many ways), they just don't have shit laid out on a platter like most people in the West do, which is a damn shame (in some ways).

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

You trying to tell me that the European colonizations had no long term negative affects on Africa?

If Africa was so advanced and prosperous how on Earth were they occupied by Europeans so easily :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

If Africa was so advanced and prosperous how on Earth were they occupied by Europeans so easily :lol

very easy to answer question...thanks for allowing me a swing at T-Ball set...:lol

We start with the basic premise of "relative" peace on the African continent...Europeans were mongoloaids and brutal cave and forest dwelling savages that bashed each other heads open with billy clubs for centuries...so they became more proficient at war due to the barbarism that ran rampant through-out Europe...basically their violent background necessitated rapid improvement in advanced weaponry...so they came with muskets and bayonets...much more efficient killing tools...however, they were smart...they knew they could just go into Africa and killing all of the able bodied and strong men because the African warlords for very strategic in battle...so they fractured the societies (have's and have nots) with gold and weaponry (similar to life on the European plain) in return for the 1.) enslavement of the able bodied and 2.) death of the intellectuals....that's how to answer your question....

put that ASU college education your Asian parents paid for to work my friend...:lol

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

very easy to answer question...thanks for allowing me a swing at T-Ball set...:lol

We start with the basic premise of "relative" peace on the African continent...Europeans were mongoloaids and brutal cave and forest dwelling savages that bashed each other heads open with billy clubs for centuries...so they became more proficient at war due to the barbarism that ran rampant through-out Europe...basically their violent background necessitated rapid improvement in advanced weaponry...so they came with muskets and bayonets...much more efficient killing tools...however, they were smart...they knew they could just go into Africa and killing all of the able bodied and strong men because the African warlords for very strategic in battle...so they fractured the societies (have's and have nots) with gold and weaponry (similar to life on the European plain) in return for the 1.) enslavement of the able bodied and 2.) death of the intellectuals....that's how to answer your question....

put that ASU college education your Asian parents paid for to work my friend...:lol

So what you're saying is a bunch of backwards cavemen honkies conquered a bunch of intellectual technologically advanced Africans as if that makes logical sense :lmao

:lol thinking I go to ASU
:lol misspelling the word mongoloid

[Koolaid_Man]

So what you're saying is a bunch of backwards cavemen honkies conquered a bunch of intellectual technologically advanced Africans as if that makes logical sense :lmao

:lol thinking I go to ASU
:lol misspelling the word mongoloid

^ that's not what I said at all...re-read my post and try again...:lol...or....or am I going to have to prove to you like I did Midnight_Pulp that this Black guy is arrogant as fuck and oh yeah btw more educated and smarter than you..

I will allow you another crack at it "DoK"...

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

:lmao you don't have to prove to me you're arrogant as fuck, your revisionist history about Africa is proof in and of itself

[Koolaid_Man]

:lmao you don't have to prove to me you're arrogant as fuck, your revisionist history about Africa is proof in and of itself

you're obviously not ready for me DoK...go play with one of your gay Spur fan pals...

[Koolaid_Man]

:lmao you don't have to prove to me you're arrogant as fuck, your revisionist history about Africa is proof in and of itself

let me add one more thing before I stop fucking with you Dok...your view is what's wrong with most white and asian people in the world...you don't want to take the time to actually read and understand history as it relates to Africa..you want to take the easy way out...deferring to movies, caricature stories, fiction books, and hear say passed down from biased friends and relatives...American History as taught in college uni's is so watered down you can't even get the story of the Cowboys and Indian's correct... let alone African History...stop being an intellectual bum Dok...or don't speak on subject you don't really care to understand...

[DPG21920]

Just saw the movie, I have to say I agree with Koolaid_Man . I will never watch another movie done by this idiot.

[Koolaid_Man]

b4 whites came into africa, did africa have any of those services and professionals? they still dont today without white intervention....has africa had any advancement in its history worth talkin about??

Do me favor tell me what college you went to and your GPA..just curious...I want to see how is it that you missed some of the most basic facts about Afica..yes Afica pre-slavery....here are some fine reading material...I don't say this to agitate or start racial controversies but rather to see why people like you are so eager to remain clue-less in the face of facts...

this expose on how Europe learned from Africa is pretty amazing to say the least..

http://old.antislavery.org/breakingthesilence/main/01/howeuropelearnedfromafrica.shtml

here's an excerpt...


False and negative views of Africa and Africans were used to justify the Transatlantic Slave Trade and colonisation. However, in reality, the Ancient civilisations of Egypt, Ghana and Mali among others – some of which grew over 5000 years ago – made enormous discoveries in science, medicine, astronomy, mathematics, philosophy, and architecture long before they were known in Europe. Africans had crossed oceans by the time Europeans made their first journey to Africa and some of the European visitors to Africa recognised that societies were just as advanced or more so, than their own.
In truth, contributions from Africans and the African continent to the shaping of the modern world are enormous and denied only because of the development of Eurocentric and racist views.


here's another..

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/ism/slavery/africa/

[DPG21920]

Just kidding, great movie and Kool is an idiot.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Saw it earlier today while movie-hopping, after Jack Reacher. Waltz carried it imo

[DPG21920]

Waltz was great. Love the end with him - just got pushed a little too far :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

Waltz was great. Love the end with him - just got pushed a little too far :lol

It was classic:lol When Leo kept asking for a handshake i was expecting him--not Waltz to do the deed. Loved it.

[Koolaid_Man]

Just kidding, great movie and Kool is an idiot.


^ I understand why you're still upset...but as I told you before Cully and Luva threatened to withdraw their friendship if I paid you...their friendship meant more to me than paying you what I owed...I had every intention of paying....plus midnight_pulp was in my hear big time...he was saying all kinds of foul shit about you...here's one:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/mid1.jpg

[TDMVPDPOY]

Do me favor tell me what college you went to and your GPA..just curious...I want to see how is it that you missed some of the most basic facts about Afica..yes Afica pre-slavery....here are some fine reading material...I don't say this to agitate or start racial controversies but rather to see why people like you are so eager to remain clue-less in the face of facts...

this expose on how Europe learned from Africa is pretty amazing to say the least..

http://old.antislavery.org/breakingthesilence/main/01/howeuropelearnedfromafrica.shtml

here's an excerpt...



here's another..

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/ism/slavery/africa/
if they are so advance, why they still live like they are in the jungle....lol head start 5000yrs, yet dont have anything to show for it....

[Koolaid_Man]

if they are so advance, why they still live like they are in the jungle....lol head start 5000yrs, yet dont have anything to show for it....

you can't get academic credit by constantly asking me to educate you...I've done enough...our education system won't allow it...try enrolling in a community college..it'll be a good start for you...:toast

[Trill Clinton]

Do me favor tell me what college you went to and your GPA..just curious...I want to see how is it that you missed some of the most basic facts about Afica..yes Afica pre-slavery....here are some fine reading material...I don't say this to agitate or start racial controversies but rather to see why people like you are so eager to remain clue-less in the face of facts...

this expose on how Europe learned from Africa is pretty amazing to say the least..

http://old.antislavery.org/breakingthesilence/main/01/howeuropelearnedfromafrica.shtml

here's an excerpt...



here's another..

http://www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/ism/slavery/africa/

wow...thanks for those links.

there is a poster here from Africa that could shed more light to your points but i don't think she'd want to get involved with the nonsense.

[DPG21920]

wow...thanks for those links.

there is a poster here from Africa that could shed more light to your points but i don't think she'd want to get involved with the nonsense.

I don't click lanks - care to explain?

[TD 21]

lol a bunch of white folks telling a black man he shouldn't be offended someone trivialized slavery into a spaghetti western.

i'm done.

Exactly.

I personally wasn't offended, partially because it was pretty much exactly what I was expecting, but mostly because it's a damn movie. But far be it from me to tell others (of a different race, no less) whether or not it's okay to be offended by something and to essentially get over slavery, as so many white people seemingly think it's their birthright to. Damn near every time a "black" person is offended by something or even suggests racism may have played a part in something, they're told to "stop playing the race card" . . . as if racism has been abolished or as if something can only be termed as racist when a white person determines that it is. It's sickening.

[The Reckoning]

You trying to tell me that the European colonizations had no long term negative affects on Africa?

i'm saying africa was in control of its own destiny. colonization before the 19th century was mostly trade posts around the coasts on the way to the East Indies. europeans didnt treat africa like they did the new world. in a sense, european economics had much more of an impact. colonization was a result - not a cause.

basing their economies on the slave trade and precious metals, africans developed into fractured warring states that basically started killing each other off. after they were weakened and slavery was abolished around the world, which ruined african exports, europeans took advantage and then colonized.

it's not like europeans invaded africa, enslaved all the peaceful tribes and colonized. they colonized after africa was in shambles.

[boutons_deux]

"europeans didnt treat africa like they did the new world."

Europeans exploited Africa for its natural resources, including, requiring genocide and/or enslaving the Africans, just like the Europeans did in the Americas or India. The similarities overwhelm whatever differences you think there were. The exploitation continues by the foreign oilcos in Nigeria, etc.

[tlongII]

It was an excellent movie. Maybe a little over the top with the blood spatters though.

[BlackSwordsMan]

I wanna go see this movie again.
Anyone in SA wanna go with me?

[I. Hustle]

I'll go. Looks good. What was the original like? They are going to show it at the drafthouse.

[Koolaid_Man]

I wanna go see this movie again.
Anyone in SA wanna go with me?

really? you that lonely brah....:lol up in this biotch soliciting dinner and movie and then gay sex....

fucking Spurs fan :lol

[BlackSwordsMan]

really? you that lonely brah....:lol up in this biotch soliciting dinner and movie and then gay sex....

fucking Spurs fan :lol

You live in Houston if you lived any closer I'd take your broke ass too my dude.

[Creepn]

i'm saying africa was in control of its own destiny. colonization before the 19th century was mostly trade posts around the coasts on the way to the East Indies. europeans didnt treat africa like they did the new world. in a sense, european economics had much more of an impact. colonization was a result - not a cause.

basing their economies on the slave trade and precious metals, africans developed into fractured warring states that basically started killing each other off. after they were weakened and slavery was abolished around the world, which ruined african exports, europeans took advantage and then colonized.

it's not like europeans invaded africa, enslaved all the peaceful tribes and colonized. they colonized after africa was in shambles.

No, it's more like Europeans invaded Africa, set up harsh colonial governments that didn't meet the needs of the people, raped the land, and introduced ethnic ties with their "divide and conquer" tactics which prevents African unity to this day.

Yeah at first there were some good intentions to set trade routes to supplement the slave trade. This was accomplished by Europeans working with the Kings and Chiefs in partnership. That's fine and dandy until the greed took place and they decided to invade and get a "piece of the African cake". That is the part I'm taking about.

[The Reckoning]

No, it's more like Europeans invaded Africa, set up harsh colonial governments that didn't meet the needs of the people, raped the land, and introduced ethnic ties with their "divide and conquer" tactics which prevents African unity to this day.

Yeah at first there were some good intentions to set trade routes to supplement the slave trade. This was accomplished by Europeans working with the Kings and Chiefs in partnership. That's fine and dandy until the greed took place and they decided to invade and get a "piece of the African cake". That is the part I'm taking about.



africa was not okay before the europeans settled. you can spin it all you want, but for the most part, africa was composed of warring tribes.

otoh, what you're talking about did not occur until after the slave trade ended and white americans had nothing to do with.

[Creepn]

africa was not okay before the europeans settled. you can spin it all you want, but for the most part, africa was composed of warring tribes.

otoh, what you're talking about did not occur until after the slave trade ended and white americans had nothing to do with.

I'm talking 19th century and not about Americans either.

The fact you keep saying "warring tribes" shows me the ignorance you have on this subject. There were city states all over Africa with governmental structure that would rival Europe that were doing the enslaving. The warring states over the slave trade is also attributed to the Europeans because they were the ones that introduced chattel slavery to Africa in the first place! Before that I'd say slavery was caste or pow and not as commodities.

[Trill Clinton]

my OG, Creepn in here giving these crackas a history lesson.

don't hurt em' creep dawg.

[TDMVPDPOY]

I'm talking 19th century and not about Americans either.

The fact you keep saying "warring tribes" shows me the ignorance you have on this subject. There were city states all over Africa with governmental structure that would rival Europe that were doing the enslaving. The warring states over the slave trade is also attributed to the Europeans because they were the ones that introduced chattel slavery to Africa in the first place! Before that I'd say slavery was caste or pow and not as commodities.
if they were so good, whats stopping the current state they are in from going back to the time ur talking about?

[The Reckoning]

I'm talking 19th century and not about Americans either.

The fact you keep saying "warring tribes" shows me the ignorance you have on this subject. There were city states all over Africa with governmental structure that would rival Europe that were doing the enslaving. The warring states over the slave trade is also attributed to the Europeans because they were the ones that introduced chattel slavery to Africa in the first place! Before that I'd say slavery was caste or pow and not as commodities.


so you do agree with me that their decline was over an issue of an inefficient socio-economic structure? there's no way you can tangibly sustain the slave trade and still be "ok." i never commented on the micro structure or "sophistication" of political entities because it doesn't apply here. you're trying to rebuttal with semantics, which doesn't work. what we're talking about is the overall health of the (presumably) sub-saharan states in the 19th century. personally, i dont think selling your own people can bring about any real economic growth, especially after the practice was abolished, and i dont find that as a sign of sophistication.

i just wanted to point out that it wasn't the european states doing the enslaving like so many are led to believe, and they moved in to africa after it was weakened. i dont know of any sub-saharan states/tribes that were strong enough to counter a european presence. they were too weak at that point.

note that im not pro euro or white. i think euros were religious, greedy glory seekers that used religion (and later on, nationalism) to expand their holdings.

[Creepn]

so you do agree with me that their decline was over an issue of an inefficient socio-economic structure? there's no way you can tangibly sustain the slave trade and still be "ok." i never commented on the micro structure or "sophistication" of political entities because it doesn't apply here. you're trying to rebuttal with semantics, which doesn't work. what we're talking about is the overall health of the (presumably) sub-saharan states in the 19th century. personally, i dont think selling your own people can bring about any real economic growth, especially after the practice was abolished, and i dont find that as a sign of sophistication.

i just wanted to point out that it wasn't the european states doing the enslaving like so many are led to believe, and they moved in to africa after it was weakened. i dont know of any sub-saharan states/tribes that were strong enough to counter a european presence. they were too weak at that point.

note that im not pro euro or white. i think euros were religious, greedy glory seekers that used religion (and later on, nationalism) to expand their holdings.

I can't agree with you that the slave trade was the cause of some "decline" because slaves weren't the only thing they were trading. You know Africa is rich with other commodities. I do agree with you that basing your entire trade on slaves would be inefficient.

About this "decline" you keep speaking of, pre-colonial sub-saharan Africa had their goods and bads just as the outside nations with their wars, trade, rebellion, famine, what have you. Of course, Europe was able to impose their military might. Europeans had a technological advantage in warfare and annexed many parts of the world. So using that as some proof that Africa was in decline is not a sustainable one.

Look this discussion started when some poster said that white colonization can turn poor cities to gold. I was merely saying that's not the case.

[KaiRMD1]

Movie was awesome, favorite part had to be the argument over the hoods.

[Koolaid_Man]

sure he would.

why does he always have to throw n!gger around in EVERY movie?

he finds some ways to sneak that shit in in every movie, doggie.

he even had a brotha get raped by gay cac in pulp fiction.

i peeped QT's racist ways a long time ago.


I have good news for you on this topic Trill...I was listening to a left wing / Progressive talk show radio host today on Sirius Radio --> Thom Hartmann http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thom_Hartmann ....and he mentioned something I found to be intriguing...he said he was trying to figure out for days why Right wing republicans and Fox News were against the Django movie...and why they wouldn't plug or promote the movie...

He said it's been revealed (I guess through some of his sources) that this movie is considered a big slap in the face to the Southern states..because it portrays a black man as savior against a Southern White tradition that they've held in high esteem for hundreds of years...it's basically a movie that gives a big MIDDLE FINGER to the South and their core values and because of this most republicans and Southern whites HATE the movie and think it's bad.

He went on to mention that he didn't think this was something that Tarantino intended but it's actually the end result. This movie by accident may actually prove more helpful to blacks than not.

It may actually paint a true light on the horrors of the South and the total white washing of history that they continually participate in. Maybe the more decent whites will start to see the truth through this movie...:toast

I will take some time to watch the movie soon myself....

[CubanSucks]

I have good news for you on this topic Trill...I was listening to a left wing / Progressive talk show radio host today on Sirius Radio --> Thom Hartmann http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thom_Hartmann ....and he mentioned something I found to be intriguing...he said he was trying to figure out for days why Right wing republicans and Fox News were against the Django movie...and why they wouldn't plug or promote the movie...

He said it's been revealed (I guess through some of his sources) that this movie is considered a big slap in the face to the Southern states..because it portrays a black man as savior against a Southern White tradition that they've held in high esteem for hundreds of years...it's basically a movie that gives a big MIDDLE FINGER to the South and their core values and because of this most republicans and Southern whites HATE the movie and think it's bad.

He went on to mention that he didn't think this was something that Tarantino intended but it's actually the end result. This movie by accident may actually prove more helpful to blacks than not.

It may actually paint a true light on the horrors of the South and the total white washing of history that they continually participate in. Maybe the more decent whites will start to see the truth through this movie...:toast

I will take some time to watch the movie soon myself....

for a second I actually thought you were trying to be serious itt
http://memeorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Oh-You-Make-Me-Cry-Laughing-Meme-Rage-Face-.png

[Trill Clinton]

I have good news for you on this topic Trill...I was listening to a left wing / Progressive talk show radio host today on Sirius Radio --> Thom Hartmann http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thom_Hartmann ....and he mentioned something I found to be intriguing...he said he was trying to figure out for days why Right wing republicans and Fox News were against the Django movie...and why they wouldn't plug or promote the movie...

He said it's been revealed (I guess through some of his sources) that this movie is considered a big slap in the face to the Southern states..because it portrays a black man as savior against a Southern White tradition that they've held in high esteem for hundreds of years...it's basically a movie that gives a big MIDDLE FINGER to the South and their core values and because of this most republicans and Southern whites HATE the movie and think it's bad.

He went on to mention that he didn't think this was something that Tarantino intended but it's actually the end result. This movie by accident may actually prove more helpful to blacks than not.

It may actually paint a true light on the horrors of the South and the total white washing of history that they continually participate in. Maybe the more decent whites will start to see the truth through this movie...:toast

I will take some time to watch the movie soon myself....


yea well i've been checking my favorite torrent site since the movie's been out and it still hasn't dropped yet.

from what i've heard from some people who watched was jaimee wasn't even the savior, Dr. King(isn't that ironic) was.

jaimee was just some magical negroe he saved and it just so happened he was an ace with a revolver.

i also heard the true villian was samuel l jackson's character who was pulling the strings behind the scene.

so the true hero is white and the true villian is black.

[Magua]

so the true hero is white and the true villian is black.
Art imitating life.

[Trill Clinton]

Art imitating life.

yup

[Koolaid_Man]

so the true hero is white and the true villian is black.

^ just like the game of pool...white ball knocking the black ball in the hole to win the game....

[Koolaid_Man]

sometimes I ask God why did he put me here on earth with the humans...I should watching the planets twist from an angelic perch

[Creepn]

sometimes I ask God why did he put me here on earth with the humans...I should watching the planets twist from an angelic perch

Man I think I would make a bad ass angel. Demons wouldn't dare fuck with me. I wouldn't wear a sash or anything, just bare chested in all my glory. I would also request a flaming halo.

[Koolaid_Man]

Man I think I would make a bad ass angel. Demons wouldn't dare fuck with me. I wouldn't wear a sash or anything, just bare chested in all my glory. I would also request a flaming halo.

:lol that's a blasphemous oxymoron...bad ass angel is a demon :lol

I like the flaming Halo though..you ought to request a flaming Halo of Stars...that would be cool...but can you imagine what a fight between an angel and demon would like..I imagine gamma ray style weapons..throwing each other into black holes and slamming into sun like Stars :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

I can't agree with you that the slave trade was the cause of some "decline" because slaves weren't the only thing they were trading. You know Africa is rich with other commodities. I do agree with you that basing your entire trade on slaves would be inefficient.

About this "decline" you keep speaking of, pre-colonial sub-saharan Africa had their goods and bads just as the outside nations with their wars, trade, rebellion, famine, what have you. Of course, Europe was able to impose their military might. Europeans had a technological advantage in warfare and annexed many parts of the world. So using that as some proof that Africa was in decline is not a sustainable one.

Look this discussion started when some poster said that white colonization can turn poor cities to gold. I was merely saying that's not the case.
Why didn't Africans have similar advantages? Not just in warfare, why weren't they also navigating Earth by sea and exploring continents overseas?

[Creepn]

Why didn't Africans have similar advantages? Not just in warfare, why weren't they also navigating Earth by sea and exploring continents overseas?

Why would they? Africa, being rich in natural resources, they had everything they needed and other countries came to them for trade. Besides, Britain being an island, would naturally create a sea-faring culture.

[ALVAREZ6]

Why would they? Africa, being rich in natural resources, they had everything they needed and other countries came to them for trade. Besides, Britain being an island, would naturally create a sea-faring culture.
What was it about the Europeans that gave them the technological advantages?

[Creepn]

War. And a whole lot of it. Long brutal wars. Then came the introduction of gunpowder.

[ALVAREZ6]

War. And a whole lot of it. Long brutal wars. Then came the introduction of gunpowder.
Right. You're not really answering my question. Were there no wars in Africa prior to European arrival, ever? Why didn't Africans have gunpowder, for instance.

[Trill Clinton]

damn, is creepn taking a history test in this bish? all of these questions lol

[Creepn]

Right. You're not really answering my question. Were there no wars in Africa prior to European arrival, ever? Why didn't Africans have gunpowder, for instance.

Africa never heard of it until Europe took over Africa. They had to be introduced to it the same way Europe was introduced to it possibly by Khan.

What are you getting at here with this line of questioning? Quit pussyfooting around and say what you wanna say.

[I. Hustle]

Django + stash ipa. = I better see titties

[Trainwreck2100]

Leo fucking went balls deep in his perfomace. Loved his line about what was the point of having a german speaking ****** if he can't entertain people that speak german with her.

[AussieFanKurt]

great fucking movie.. entertaining, great action, acting, soundtrack.. everything

its just a fucking movie trill, stop taking life so seriously.. jesus.

[Trill Clinton]

not about taking it seriously, fam. not everyone is going to like this movie.

anyways, i saw it last night and i was not impressed. everyone is saying the movie is great and leo should win all these awards, why?

this is just another kill bill except with slaves getting ate by dogs, thrown in hot boxes and whipped.

the best part in the entire film was when the klansmen argued about the hoods.

i give this movie a 5/10. people are hyping this movie like crazy.

[johnsmith]

not about taking it seriously, fam. not everyone is going to like this movie.

anyways, i saw it last night and i was not impressed. everyone is saying the movie is great and leo should win all these awards, why?

this is just another kill bill except with slaves getting ate by dogs, thrown in hot boxes and whipped.

the best part in the entire film was when the klansmen argued about the hoods.

i give this movie a 5/10. people are hyping this movie like crazy.

Weird that someone who said he didn't like the movie before seeing it, didn't like the movie after too.

Thanks for the review clown.

[BlackSwordsMan]

''fuck yo movie clown'' - Trill Clinton

[BlackSwordsMan]

btw for those not in the know leo did really cut his hand on that one scene and that was his real blood he wiped on broomehilda

I actually had to google why that chick in the red bandana was kept being shown she was the stunt double for beatrix in kill bill

[CuckingFunt]

I actually had to google why that chick in the red bandana was kept being shown she was the stunt double for beatrix in kill bill

Zoe Bell was also the lead in Death Proof.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Zoe Bell was also the lead in Death Proof.

I read that but I figure who's seen that shitte movie so didn't mention that.

[BlackSwordsMan]

Can we discuss how shitty the hobbit was in here?

[DPG21920]

No - because it was not sh*tty. It was a solid movie unless you have the brain of an ant minus all the strength too.

[redzero]

It's funny how both Black people and White people are calling this movie racist against their people.

[AussieFanKurt]

this is just another kill bill except with slaves getting ate by dogs, thrown in hot boxes and whipped.

if thats all you took out of this movie, I feel sorry for you

[AussieFanKurt]

It's funny how both Black people and White people are calling this movie racist against their people.

Those people need to sit back, smoke a bong and just chill out, its only a movie.

[BlackSwordsMan]

No - because it was not sh*tty. It was a solid movie unless you have the brain of an ant minus all the strength too.
The hobbit was more walking.

It sets up for part 2 to be an awesome movie though.

[ALVAREZ6]

Those people need to sit back, smoke a bong and just chill out, its only a movie.
:tu

It's like for Germans to bitch about how the Nazi party leaders and friends/family got shot, burnt, and blown to ashes by the Bear Jew and his comrade in Inglourious Basterds. People are so brainless that they forget Django Unchained is a Tarantino movie, not a National Geographic documentary on slavery in the US.

[AussieFanKurt]

:tu

It's like for Germans to bitch about how the Nazi party leaders and friends/family got shot, burnt, and blown to ashes by the Bear Jew and his comrade in Inglourious Basterds. People are so brainless that they forget Django Unchained is a Tarantino movie, not a National Geographic documentary on slavery in the US.

Yeah if I remember rightly Inglourious claimed no historical accuracy and same with Django. Just lighten up for christ sake, movies don't always have to be read into so much. It was a very enjoyable film but also a good one, obviously not everyone will think so but if you disagree about that purely because you think its racist, just lighten up. Almost just looking for reasons to complain

[BlackSwordsMan]

Yeah if I remember rightly Inglourious claimed no historical accuracy and same with Django.

Wait hitler was not killed in a theater?

[AussieFanKurt]

Wait hitler was not killed in a theater?

:lmao exactly

[KL2]

I burned it last night, great movie, that KKK scene had me lmao.

[BlackSwordsMan]

yeah that hooded scene and that scene where don johnson has to explain to the slave girl not to treat django like an ordinary black folk

[redzero]

Samuel L. Jackson had a much bigger role than one would think based off the advertisements.

Overall, I'd put this third behind Pulp Fiction and Inglorious Basterds.

[BlackSwordsMan]

I didn't even know Samuel was in the movie until I saw it

[redzero]

I've read that DiCaprio rubbing his bloody hand on Kerri Washington's face was completely unscripted. What the fuck?

[AussieFanKurt]

I've read that DiCaprio rubbing his bloody hand on Kerri Washington's face was completely unscripted. What the fuck?

yeah apparently he cut it on the glass then just went with it.... lucky kerri

[monosylab1k]

There's no way anybody would stay in character with real blood getting rubbed on their face. i heard the blood was real but after a take they stitched him up and used fake blood on her face.

[redzero]

If it was true, he'd be crossing a line by doing that. On one hand, I admire the improvisation. On the other hand, smearing blood on somebody's face unbeknownst to them, is disgusting.

[monosylab1k]

I have to believe it's fake blood because of just how disgusting and offensive it is. I doubt DDL could stay in character if he was getting real blood smeared all over his face.

[leemajors]

I have to believe it's fake blood because of just how disgusting and offensive it is. I doubt DDL could stay in character if he was getting real blood smeared all over his face.

apparently on the set of Lincoln he would only speak if you wanted to talk about current events... of 1865.

[CuckingFunt]

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blogofneworleans/archives/2013/01/10/django-unchained-action-figures

[Spurminator]

Leo got robbed, man.

[ALVAREZ6]

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/blogofneworleans/archives/2013/01/10/django-unchained-action-figures
Interesting...the primary age group interested in action figures should definitely NOT watch this movie.

[HI-FI]

Saw it recently. Fantastic movie. Tarantino is very hit or miss with me. I think his long scenes of dialogue can bore me, but sometimes they are interesting. I think Kill Bill was his most bloated, disjointed film. Death Proof is technically his worse, but I prefer it over Kill Bill. People always talk about his writing, but I think Tarantino has turned into a very good visual director, in some ways I think he's a better director than writer.

Django was great though. The movie was brisk, the dialogue was rarely boring, and I enjoyed the linear structure for once. The shootouts were amazing.

My favorite of Tarantino is
1)Resevoir Dogs
2)Django Unchained
3)Inglourious basterds.

[BRHornet45]

Leo got robbed, man.

son he always gets robbed of nominations by them. in 2006 they nominated him for Blood Diamond when his best performance that year was in The Departed (both Golden Globes and British awards agreed as he was nominated for The Departed by each). he was snubbed big time for Revolutionary Road and honestly should have won in 2004 with The Aviator.

I think Leo's biggest problem is that he is too famous for the Oscars. they usually frown upon big name stars, but he has been solid in pretty much every role he has ever been in. its a shame that he wasn't nominated for Django because he was the best performance in the movie. also what makes it even more ridiculous is that he would have been up for Best SUPPORTING Actor in this role which is a pretty weak category this year compared to the lead actor category. The Academy must really hate him.

[CuckingFunt]

its a shame that he wasn't nominated for Django because he was the best performance in the movie.

Waltz was better.

DiCaprio was good, but Waltz was fucking brilliant.

[DPG21920]

Waltz was very good, but I liked Leo better.

[CuckingFunt]

Waltz was very good, but I liked Leo better.

It's the flashier performance of the two, to be sure.

[DPG21920]

Very subtle way he handled it though. The very small things (like how he loved to appear well traveled even though he never left Candieland - how he wanted to appear cultured, but didn't speak French or know the meaning of panache) are what made Leo's performance IMO.

[BRHornet45]

Waltz was better.

DiCaprio was good, but Waltz was fucking brilliant.

Waltz was good, but not better than Leo.

Waltz stole the show in the first half with his comedy before Leo came into the picture, but then Leo took over the second half and had more memorable scenes. with the exception of maybe a couple of scenes, Waltz was virtually irrelevant in the second half of the movie once Leo hit the screen.

[HI-FI]

Very subtle way he handled it though. The very small things (like how he loved to appear well traveled even though he never left Candieland - how he wanted to appear cultured, but didn't speak French or know the meaning of panache) are what made Leo's performance IMO.
or how he gives that long rant about black's aren't capable of genius, yet Samuel Jackson is clearly the brains of the plantation.

Leo is an interesting actor. He is good, at times very good, but there is something about his face I can't stand, like a bratty kid. I'm pretty sure I was around him once when I was younger and he was not well known. But he has chops, I just don't know if he'll ever be as good as Pacino or DeNiro.

When he plays petulant brats he nails the role, like as Calvin Candie. He was very good in this film, I think he stole the film. Samuel Jackson did some of his best work as well. Practically everyone was great, however I think Foxx was the weakest link. He wasn't horrible, but definitely not as strong as everyone else.

[Jacob1983]

Leo should have won for The Aviator. It's a shame he didn't get nominated for Django Unchained. But yes, Waltz was brilliant in the film so his nomination was well deserved.

[HI-FI]

I haven't kept up with nominations, but remember these awards are very political. Waltz was the easier choice since he's like the enlightened good guy in the movie, but DiCaprio was far more interesting. He played it perfectly and convincingly, like someone who looks down on blacks but can't survive or live without them.

And he was great in Aviator. Shit going back to What's eating Gilbert Grape, Dicaprio has had some really good roles. I still don't know if he'll ever be in that DeNiro/Pacino category, but he's got time.

[Spurminator]

I would love to have seen Waltz get the Best Actor nom with Leo getting Supporting.

[Bynumite]

I finally watched this movie a few days ago, loved it, another Tarantino classic. But seriously, what was the point of Django going to Candieland other than to fill the white man with lead to the sound of Tupac in a total badass manner?

Unless i missed a plot point, i can't help but think the transaction could have been a lot smoother if Schultz went there solo and simply asked to buy Django's wife along with a fighter, even if he had to pay a steep price.

[AussieFanKurt]

It was perfect, lets leave it at that :lol

[lebomb]

Saw it recently. Fantastic movie. Tarantino is very hit or miss with me. I think his long scenes of dialogue can bore me, but sometimes they are interesting. I think Kill Bill was his most bloated, disjointed film. Death Proof is technically his worse, but I prefer it over Kill Bill. People always talk about his writing, but I think Tarantino has turned into a very good visual director, in some ways I think he's a better director than writer.

Django was great though. The movie was brisk, the dialogue was rarely boring, and I enjoyed the linear structure for once. The shootouts were amazing.

My favorite of Tarantino is
1)Resevoir Dogs
2)Django Unchained
3)Inglourious basterds.

Pulp Fiction and Dusk till Dawn was party good too.

Selmas fine ass made that movie............I would have tossed that, and then would have bit her ass right in front of all dem night crawlers.

http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/1024x768/salma-hayek-from-dusk-till-dawn/272947/salma-hayek-from-dusk-till-dawn-related-searches-for-272947.jpg

[Trill Clinton]

any of ya'll rush to see 12 years a slave?

[The Gemini Method]

any of ya'll rush to see 12 years a slave?

Saw it twice--Best movie of the year and Chiwetel Ejiofor and Lupita Nyong'o were brilliant in their roles. I don't think Lupita will win in a loaded Best Supportin Actress role, but Chiwetel should be the favorite for the Oscar. I recently caught Django and I think Leo was brilliant but Waltz was what kept me captivated. He did fade in the latter third of the movie, but he was instrumental in the first part of the movie.

[Trill Clinton]

Saw it twice--Best movie of the year and Chiwetel Ejiofor and Lupita Nyong'o were brilliant in their roles. I don't think Lupita will win in a loaded Best Supportin Actress role, but Chiwetel should be the favorite for the Oscar. I recently caught Django and I think Leo was brilliant but Waltz was what kept me captivated. He did fade in the latter third of the movie, but he was instrumental in the first part of the movie.

:tu

chiwetel better win and n'yongo is a beatiful woman and great actress. in my opinion, 12 years a slave deserves wayyyy more hype than django.

[The Gemini Method]

:tu

chiwetel better win and n'yongo is a beatiful woman and great actress. in my opinion, 12 years a slave deserves wayyyy more hype than django.

Can't really compare the two--the simplistic idea is to do so since both are depicting the Slave crescendo and demise in our history. The way that 12 was written and carried out was ruthless and still kept you wanting to see Solomon and Patsy somehow survive. Michael Fassbender played that anti-hero that really made you reach and feel a sense of loathing for his character. The other one was a Tarantino. A good movie to watch and not have the depth of conscious pondering that 12 gave you.

[CuckingFunt]

I think Fassbender was far more villain than anti-hero.

[CuckingFunt]

Agree with the rest, though. Attempting to compare the two films is shortsighted.

[Trill Clinton]

Can't really compare the two--the simplistic idea is to do so since both are depicting the Slave crescendo and demise in our history. The way that 12 was written and carried out was ruthless and still kept you wanting to see Solomon and Patsy somehow survive. Michael Fassbender played that anti-hero that really made you reach and feel a sense of loathing for his character. The other one was a Tarantino. A good movie to watch and not have the depth of conscious pondering that 12 gave you.

why can't you compare the two? they are both rooted in slavery, only difference is one is a spaghetti-western fantasy and the other was authentic and honest.

[CuckingFunt]

why can't you compare the two? they are both rooted in slavery, only difference is one is a spaghetti-western fantasy and the other was authentic and honest.

Because the fact they both deal with slavery is the only point of comparison.

What you sideline as "only difference is..." is pretty much everything that makes these films: narrative, characterization, and tone.

[monosylab1k]

why can't you compare the two? they are both rooted in slavery, only difference is one is a spaghetti-western fantasy and the other was authentic and honest.

Yeah and while we're at it let's compare Inglourious Basterds to The Thin Red Line! They're both WWII movies,so they're basically the same film!

[Trill Clinton]

stop it...lol

there are several articles and reviews comparing the two films. everybody was so stoked to see django and not a peep about 12 years a slave until just recently.

[ChumpDumper]

UTSA has a film school now?

[The Gemini Method]

why can't you compare the two? they are both rooted in slavery, only difference is one is a spaghetti-western fantasy and the other was authentic and honest.

The answer is in your reply and in CF's reply and in Mono's reply--Spaghetti Westerns were fabrication and fantasy and so, Django was a deviation from how it was and 12 years was a genuine look at the topic. Nonetheless, they were both good to great movies. I liked 12 Years a slave because I'm a history buff. I loved Waltz and DiCaprio in Django but I personally wouldn't compare the two or downplay either/or for what the other is trying to accomplish.

[monosylab1k]

stop it...lol

there are several articles and reviews comparing the two films. everybody was so stoked to see django and not a peep about 12 years a slave until just recently.

lol what? 12 years a slave has only been the most acclaimed movie of the year. Also, Django is a more mainstream film with maybe the biggest name director working, of course it had more hype. Steve McQueen is a great director but he doesn't have the star status of Tarantino, up to this point ppl knew McQueen more for showing Fassbender's dick than anything else. Again, the mainstreamers and simpletons will make the cheap comparison between the two, but it doesn't make it any less stupid to do so.