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thunderfan
05-31-2012, 02:07 PM
Ok, get the laughs out before you continue reading. Rewind back to March 17th when Parker was having a Tony Parker like game against OKC. Enter Ivey who harassed the hell out of Parker, forcing him into a couple of turnovers and limiting his production offensively. Brooks was asked today if he'd consider putting Thabo on Parker. The answer was yes. Ivey? The answer was yes. Ivey plays balls to the wall, he's actually a very intelligent player and he gets his money's worth when he's out on the floor. He's a guy that will play hard defense for every single one of those 24 seconds on the shot clock. Personally, I'd like to see him get a shot at Parker. I think he's smart on the pick and roll defensively. What's to lose really? Thunder fans have pressed for more minutes for Ivey in situations this year because of his defensive intensity. Why in the world Derek Fisher played the last X minutes of the game in game 2 is beyond me. I'll take Royal Ivey vs SA any day over Fisher.

DesignatedT
05-31-2012, 02:09 PM
Ok, get the laughs out before you continue reading.

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Rewind back to March 17th when Parker was having a Tony Parker like game against OKC. Enter Ivey who harassed the hell out of Parker, forcing him into a couple of turnovers and limiting his production offensively. Brooks was asked today if he'd consider putting Thabo on Parker. The answer was yes. Ivey? The answer was yes. Ivey plays balls to the wall, he's actually a very intelligent player and he gets his money's worth when he's out on the floor. He's a guy that will play hard defense for every single one of those 24 seconds on the shot clock. Personally, I'd like to see him get a shot at Parker. I think he's smart on the pick and roll defensively. What's to lose really? Thunder fans have pressed for more minutes for Ivey in situations this year because of his defensive intensity. Why in the world Derek Fisher played the last X minutes of the game in game 2 is beyond me. I'll take Royal Ivey vs SA any day over Fisher.

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thunderfan
05-31-2012, 02:10 PM
Cute. If someone with any basketball knowledge would like to chime in, that'd be good to read.

Proxy
05-31-2012, 02:10 PM
Royal Ivey was my favorite UT player back in the day. I love the dude. Parker will rape him.

Darkwaters
05-31-2012, 02:11 PM
Pinning your hopes on yet another Texas Longhorn must be killing you Oklahoma types.

Darkwaters
05-31-2012, 02:13 PM
Royal Ivey was my favorite UT player back in the day. I love the dude. Parker will rape him.

Agreed. I'm a Royal Ivey fan too. Hes carved out a respectable NBA career over the years. But I'm not convinced he'll do the job.

Now, if this were a different Texas point guard....Avery Bradley maybe...then I'd be genuinely worried.

z0sa
05-31-2012, 02:14 PM
can't stop laughing :lmao

thunderfan
05-31-2012, 02:16 PM
I'm not suggesting the guy's gonna go out there and just make Parker a non-factor. Let's get real here, Parker's not a guy you can do that to. However, aside from Thabo, who on the OKC roster could guard Parker any better than Ivey? I don't know of anyone.

Proxy
05-31-2012, 02:17 PM
OKC isn't going to stop SA by putting individual defenders out there. Thabo hasn't made a difference on Manu. Ivey won't make a difference on Parker. That's due to SA's offense being so good as a cohesive unit.

The popular thing to say is that OKC's only chance of winning is to outscore SA. Ivey would be counterintuitive to that strategy. Put out your best 5, defend with athleticism and length, and cross your fingers the Spurs aren't shooting well.

Mel_13
05-31-2012, 02:19 PM
Give Fisher's minutes to Ivey?

Works for me.

silverblk mystix
05-31-2012, 02:22 PM
Ok, get the laughs out before you continue reading. Rewind back to March 17th when Parker was having a Tony Parker like game against OKC. Enter Ivey who harassed the hell out of Parker, forcing him into a couple of turnovers and limiting his production offensively. Brooks was asked today if he'd consider putting Thabo on Parker. The answer was yes. Ivey? The answer was yes. Ivey plays balls to the wall, he's actually a very intelligent player and he gets his money's worth when he's out on the floor. He's a guy that will play hard defense for every single one of those 24 seconds on the shot clock. Personally, I'd like to see him get a shot at Parker. I think he's smart on the pick and roll defensively. What's to lose really? Thunder fans have pressed for more minutes for Ivey in situations this year because of his defensive intensity. Why in the world Derek Fisher played the last X minutes of the game in game 2 is beyond me. I'll take Royal Ivey vs SA any day over Fisher.


Couldn't hurt to try. I also noticed Ivey playing parker and he didn't do too bad.

Hopefully Brooks won't try it and keeps going to Fish.

Spur|n|Austin
05-31-2012, 02:22 PM
Give Fisher's minutes to Ivey?

Works for me.

:lol right? I'll take it.

TE
05-31-2012, 02:22 PM
Tony Parker would destroy Ivey in these playoffs.

thunderfan
05-31-2012, 02:23 PM
Give Fisher's minutes to Ivey?

Works for me.

Me too. Fisher has nothing on Ivey offensively and he sure as hell has nothing on him defensively. Ivey is much longer and quicker and just an overall better defender. I think Brooks has in his mind that Fisher somehow goes hero mode come playoff time and I suppose he did in Game 1, but I'll take Ivey's defense because, as I've said before, I don't think offense is our main issue here.

capek
05-31-2012, 02:25 PM
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thunderfan
05-31-2012, 02:25 PM
Tony Parker would destroy Ivey in these playoffs.

No more so than he's destroying anyone else! Throw another defensive specialist at him, try and shake things up a little. Can't hurt.

Mal
05-31-2012, 02:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLtwFugudZE

Mel_13
05-31-2012, 02:29 PM
Me too. Fisher has nothing on Ivey offensively and he sure as hell has nothing on him defensively. Ivey is much longer and quicker and just an overall better defender. I think Brooks has in his mind that Fisher somehow goes hero mode come playoff time and I suppose he did in Game 1, but I'll take Ivey's defense because, as I've said before, I don't think offense is our main issue here.

I really hope that Brooks shares your way of thinking.

TE
05-31-2012, 02:31 PM
No more so than he's destroying anyone else! Throw another defensive specialist at him, try and shake things up a little. Can't hurt.

Go ahead, try it. At the same time Brooks would also be taking minutes away from Spur killah Fisher so it's a win.

And :lol at thinking a player averaging 4.3 minutes a game in the playoffs will come into a game and actually have a hand in both disrupting Parker and making up the offense that Fisher brings.

Mel_13
05-31-2012, 02:32 PM
Ok, get the laughs out before you continue reading. Rewind back to March 17th when Parker was having a Tony Parker like game against OKC. Enter Ivey who harassed the hell out of Parker, forcing him into a couple of turnovers and limiting his production offensively. Brooks was asked today if he'd consider putting Thabo on Parker. The answer was yes. Ivey? The answer was yes. Ivey plays balls to the wall, he's actually a very intelligent player and he gets his money's worth when he's out on the floor. He's a guy that will play hard defense for every single one of those 24 seconds on the shot clock. Personally, I'd like to see him get a shot at Parker. I think he's smart on the pick and roll defensively. What's to lose really? Thunder fans have pressed for more minutes for Ivey in situations this year because of his defensive intensity. Why in the world Derek Fisher played the last X minutes of the game in game 2 is beyond me. I'll take Royal Ivey vs SA any day over Fisher.


When Ivey entered that game in the first half, the Spurs were up by 7. When he sat down the Spurs were up by 24.

thunderfan
05-31-2012, 02:41 PM
When Ivey entered that game in the first half, the Spurs were up by 7. When he sat down the Spurs were up by 24.

That lead was not stretched from 7 to 24 due to Tony Parker. He was on the bench. In Q4 when Ivey was guarding Parker, he played some very very nice defense on him. Look, I'm not making some claim that Ivey's our answer to anything, but down 0-2 and with nothing else seeming to slow SA down on offense, it's sure as hell worth at least a thought.

Darkwaters
05-31-2012, 02:42 PM
Does anybody think DeJuan Blair could be a Kevin Durant stopper? They're both 6'7/6'8 and Blair has crazy long arms.

cheguevara
05-31-2012, 02:43 PM
who???????????

name sounds like a female pornstar tbh

Cant_Be_Faded
05-31-2012, 02:45 PM
UT homer here.
even if ivey could score, he still can't guard Parker, and Brooks would be pilloried by the press and okc management if he gave ivey significant minutes

thunderfan
05-31-2012, 02:50 PM
Does anybody think DeJuan Blair could be a Kevin Durant stopper? They're both 6'7/6'8 and Blair has crazy long arms.

Durant is 6'11

eyeh8u
05-31-2012, 02:54 PM
who???????????

name sounds like a female pornstar tbh

i thought thats what jay z named his kid

coyotes_geek
05-31-2012, 02:56 PM
:tu to OKC playing Royal Ivey. I hope it happens. Lots and lots of Royal Ivey.

Obstructed_View
05-31-2012, 02:58 PM
I think you mean the 16th. Ivey played 24 minutes, had 6 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 2 personal fouls and finished with a -12. I'm praying he gets heavy minutes.

BTW, blue means sarcasm. It's for people like you that don't seem to catch it.

Cry Havoc
05-31-2012, 02:58 PM
What's to lose really?

Game 3?

CosmicCowboy
05-31-2012, 02:58 PM
Durant is 6'11


Blue print in here denotes sarcasm. He was making fun of the OP.

thunderfan
05-31-2012, 03:08 PM
Yeah, Fisher really kicked Parker's ass there in Game 2. If I were a SA fan I'd also hope that Brooks pulls him for a guy like Ivey.

ShoogarBear
05-31-2012, 04:57 PM
UT homer here, too, by the way.

cd98
05-31-2012, 05:04 PM
Problem is if you go small and spread the floor, you need shooters that can knock down jumpers on the kick and drive. Fisher, as old as he is, keeps defenses honest because you can't double off of him without him making you pay. Ivey and Sefalosha, no matter what they give you on the defensive end, they hurt you on the offensive end, and make it easier for the Spurs to throw more defenders at Durrant and Westbrook. And besides, how much are either of those players going to stop Parker in the long run? If he figures those guys out, then he still scores, but the Thunder are easier to defend.

OKC has its big three, but it needs a Danny Green, a Tiago Splitter, and a Gary Neal. Role players that can knock down shots and defend a little (maybe Neal not so much on the defense).

thunderfan
05-31-2012, 05:40 PM
Problem is if you go small and spread the floor, you need shooters that can knock down jumpers on the kick and drive. Fisher, as old as he is, keeps defenses honest because you can't double off of him without him making you pay. Ivey and Sefalosha, no matter what they give you on the defensive end, they hurt you on the offensive end, and make it easier for the Spurs to throw more defenders at Durrant and Westbrook. And besides, how much are either of those players going to stop Parker in the long run? If he figures those guys out, then he still scores, but the Thunder are easier to defend.

OKC has its big three, but it needs a Danny Green, a Tiago Splitter, and a Gary Neal. Role players that can knock down shots and defend a little (maybe Neal not so much on the defense).

Thabo leads the team in 3 pt %. He's not shooting at a high volume but shoots it enough and at a high enough % that he's not an offensive liability. Ivey shoots the 3 at 34% this year on 53 attempts. Not stellar but a higher % than Fisher this year

freetiago
05-31-2012, 06:18 PM
lololol okc fans no different then those other ones
i posted this would happen before the series went underway

jazz fans clinged to derrick "walking triple double" favors
clips had eric godsoe
now okc has roval "tony stopper" ivey

im sure miami fans will be complaining that norris cole or eddy curry should be getting huge minutes

Whisky Dog
05-31-2012, 06:55 PM
Since Parker is the starter I'm guessing Ivy would have to steal a few minutes from Westbrook unless you're gonna play them together and leave Harden on the bench. Lineup of Westbrook, Ivy, Thabo, Durant, Serge and you'd see the Spurs collapse the paint on everyone except Durant so fast they'd bump heads. That would be a terrible offensive unit and not a great defensive one either.

Obstructed_View
05-31-2012, 07:06 PM
I'm sure it's been said before, but I really hope Scott Brooks allows the fans and the TV stations to make his coaching decisions for him. It'll all be over by this weekend if that's the case.

thunderfan
06-01-2012, 12:14 AM
Ahhh nevermind on Ivey. I was drunk. Let's stick with Thabo.

Floyd Pacquiao
06-01-2012, 12:16 AM
Ahhh nevermind on Ivey. I was drunk. Let's stick with Thabo.

drunk at 2:07 in the afternoon?? thats pathetic bro you need help