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timvp
06-04-2012, 11:28 PM
I give the Spurs a 2% chance to win Game 6. Maybe I'll feel differently as this game gets further in the rear-view mirror but it'd take a got damn miracle, IMO.

timtonymanu
06-04-2012, 11:29 PM
12%. And that's being generous.

SA210
06-04-2012, 11:29 PM
Kenny Smith's speech made me feel better :lol

I'm still in

Spurtacus
06-04-2012, 11:29 PM
10%

You said it yourself...there have been bright spots. They just need to come together at the right time.

Nathan89
06-04-2012, 11:29 PM
49% chance of victory tbh.

2% is not honest imho.

SpurinDallas
06-04-2012, 11:29 PM
We'd have to go Timothy McVeigh on their asses in Game 6. Can it be done? Sure. But right now, I'm not feeling it.

noles1983
06-04-2012, 11:30 PM
same chance as winning the mega millions

apalisoc_9
06-04-2012, 11:30 PM
I give the Spurs a 2% chance to win Game 6. Maybe I'll feel differently as this game gets further in the rear-view mirror but it'd take a got damn miracle, IMO.

I dont expect much of this game tbh. Pressure Free. I expect them to lose, but ill be watching..You never know. On a scales from one to 10..id give it a 2.

Spursfanfromafar
06-04-2012, 11:30 PM
Confidence level (head says) - low.

Hope level (heart says) - very high.

Have been vaccinated with too much Duncan, Manu and Parker to give it up so soon.

Nathan89
06-04-2012, 11:30 PM
2%, 12%, and 10%. That's just stupid.

mexicanjunior
06-04-2012, 11:31 PM
2% sounds about right...maybe a 3 point barrage by us and the Thunder going absolutely cold from the outside could be enough to overcome. I just don't see it happening...we will get no calls in OKC and home crowd will lift them well beyond our ceiling. They are the better team, no shame in admitting it...

tesseractive
06-04-2012, 11:31 PM
I'm calling it 50/50 -- the Spurs stopped looking lost in the second half for the first time in a while. Now all they have to do is sustain that for game 6. Cut down the rotation some more, hold onto the ball better, and get some of the stops they were getting down the stretch.

3 games doesn't win a 7 game series. So let's go out there and kick their teeth in and force them to come back to San Antonio.

Yes, it looks hard. It's supposed to be hard. But I can't even comprehend why everyone is giving up. This series isn't over, and it's gutless to act like it is.

GoodOdor
06-04-2012, 11:31 PM
I'm pretty confident that the spurs will lose tbh.

Mugen
06-04-2012, 11:31 PM
< 10%

But I've seen some flukey games this postseason that I was completely wrong on:

Game 6 - Clippers/Memphis
Game 7 - Clippers/Memphis

Game 5 - Lakers/Nuggets

But the Thunder are better than all those teams that won the above games.

They can't play any worse than they have for the better part of the last 3 games. So i'm hoping they put together a complete game and see where they end up.

Darius Bieber
06-04-2012, 11:31 PM
100%. Spurs aren't going down like this, and everyone knows it.

jestersmash
06-04-2012, 11:32 PM
4/10 (10 being most confident).

Part of me wants to hope that OKC's role players will think in the back of their mind "Man, if we lose tonight, it's game 7 on the road."

DeadlyDynasty
06-04-2012, 11:32 PM
Coming off a crushing loss where they expended a ton of energy, their confidence is shaken, and now they face an OKC team (and rabid crowd) with a Finals berth on the line. Throw in the fact that OKC will get the home-cookin (and well deserved after tonight), and you're looking at a

.00000001% chance.

DubMcDub
06-04-2012, 11:32 PM
2% is ridiculous. Around 25-30% is reasonable given the flow of this series and the homecourt situation.

Holt's Cat
06-04-2012, 11:32 PM
Shorten the rotation and attack the rim. Gotta keep two of the big 3 on the court at all times.

Juggity
06-04-2012, 11:32 PM
Confidence level will be low until I see the Spurs come out of the gate with energy and proceed to play a full 48 minutes of beautiful, unselfish offense. The kind they decided to give up on when faced with the first real adversity.

There's great potential here, given the weapons that we have. But the momentum has swung too far the wrong way. No greater than 20% chance of winning on OKC's floor, tbh.

Manu20
06-04-2012, 11:32 PM
In the first 6 minutes of the game I will know....

noles1983
06-04-2012, 11:32 PM
100%. Spurs aren't going down like this, and everyone knows it.

just like everyone knew no way we lose 3 in a row :lol

Obstructed_View
06-04-2012, 11:32 PM
I don't believe in Pop. 20 wins and a CoY trophy helped me forget. He's fallen off the wagon again. I predict complete and utter meltdown. Duncan's legacy is going to be marred by the humiliation with which his teams were escorted from the playoffs over the final years of his career.

I'll watch every second of it hoping they can turn it around.

Capt Bringdown
06-04-2012, 11:33 PM
Spurs: 20 - 4
Would've thunk it?
Sad...and pissed.

benefactor
06-04-2012, 11:33 PM
Just because this is a veteran team and they have to players to do such a thing...I'll give them a 40% chance.

BillMc
06-04-2012, 11:33 PM
2%? So, if they played it 50 times, we'd only win once?

I give us about a 30% chance....

DeadlyDynasty
06-04-2012, 11:33 PM
Also, OKC is 7-0 at home thus far in the playoffs. I seriously doubt they drop their first home game with the Finals on the line, but keep hope alive, amirite?:lol

baseline bum
06-04-2012, 11:33 PM
<----

lefty
06-04-2012, 11:33 PM
Im 100% confident TP will be wearing Tampax

Spur|n|Austin
06-04-2012, 11:34 PM
I won't give a percentage, but I will say that one should never mess with a dog with it's back against the wall; it will bite.

Also, Pop is giving too much rest to the big 3. Tony will need to switch gears as well.

Spurtacus
06-04-2012, 11:34 PM
I don't believe in Pop. 20 wins and a CoY trophy helped me forget. He's fallen off the wagon again. I predict complete and utter meltdown. Duncan's legacy is going to be marred by the humiliation with which his teams were escorted from the playoffs over the final years of his career.

I'll watch every second of it hoping they can turn it around.

Strongly disagree.

ShoogarBear
06-04-2012, 11:34 PM
25%. Russell Westbrook still has unlimited bonehead potential, and he's due.

Mugen
06-04-2012, 11:34 PM
Coming off a crushing loss where they expended a ton of energy, their confidence is shaken, and now they face an OKC team (and rabid crowd) with a Finals berth on the line. Throw in the fact that OKC will get the home-cookin (and well deserved after tonight), and you're looking at a

.00000001% chance.

:lol probably. But I've never seen a Lakerfan nuttride a team that beat them this hard before.

No offense but I don't think luva, kool, or cully bandwagon'd this bad just cuz they hated the Spurs.

Floyd Pacquiao
06-04-2012, 11:34 PM
im still very confident tbh

DMC
06-04-2012, 11:34 PM
It depends on Russell Westbrook. If he decides once again it's his show, I'd say better than average. If they move the ball and find open looks and cutters, it's over.

Oh, and close out games are easy.

Kuestmaster
06-04-2012, 11:34 PM
2% timvp? Really? After all this team has done?
I know this is hard to swallow, but I fully expect Manu, Jax and Tim to call out all the team and ask them one last push. One last try. This could be our last chance to a championship in a long time. Okc will be overconfident. Let's go there and play hard. I'm not asking for more.
Chances of winning game 6? 40% maybe
Conficende in this team? 100%

baseline bum
06-04-2012, 11:35 PM
This loss is how I imagine Detroit fans must have felt after Rob stuck the dagger in game 5. I just don't know that they have the nasty of those 06 Pistons to win a game 6 on the road after having a game snatched from them like that.

DarrinS
06-04-2012, 11:35 PM
30%

pjjrfan
06-04-2012, 11:35 PM
100%. Spurs aren't going down like this, and everyone knows it.

Im there too. The Spurs are my team and I will root for them to win every game.

Manu-20
06-04-2012, 11:36 PM
Spurs have a chance of about 10% in my book still believe till the final buzzer

ShoogarBear
06-04-2012, 11:36 PM
Oh, and close out games are easy.

:lol
:tu

sananspursfan21
06-04-2012, 11:36 PM
25%

Spur|n|Austin
06-04-2012, 11:36 PM
Oh, and close out games are not easy.


fify

InK
06-04-2012, 11:37 PM
They can't play any worse than they have for the better part of the last 3 games.

Why do people keep saying this shit line? Spurs look totally defeated in the grand scheme of things, even if we won this game i would give us like a 50 50 odds of coming up on top at the end. Now its just a pipe dream, going to watch the last game without any expectations.

LakerHater
06-04-2012, 11:37 PM
http://www.thesciencefair.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Voltmeter5VCNC_1740_6_M.jpg

Bruno
06-04-2012, 11:37 PM
Even if you're extremely pessimistic, you had to give at least a 20% chance for Spurs. 2% is crazy.

Richie
06-04-2012, 11:37 PM
If we play Game 6 10 times, I think we win 3, so a 30% chance

siraulo23
06-04-2012, 11:38 PM
It's gonna be a blowout

Best case scenario: Thunder have the jitters and get all nervous knowing in the back of their minds their one win away from the Finals, and the spurs take advantage

But they're mentally tough. I cant believe how they're doing it with no post scorer

SA210
06-04-2012, 11:38 PM
100%

Fuck that bearded piece of shit gang sign throwing motherfucker and those 2 Urkels!

And you can quote me!

tlongII
06-04-2012, 11:38 PM
100%

jestersmash
06-04-2012, 11:38 PM
TBH, I'd like to see some of the Spurs' reporters plant seeds of doubt within OKC's role players during shootaround Wednesday.

"So Serge, you shot a perfect 11-11 in game 4 at home, but how confident are you with your shot tonight knowing that if you lose you'll have to play a game 7 on the road?"

DontStopBelieving
06-04-2012, 11:38 PM
About the same % I had OKC winning game 5. Very low.

GrandeDavid
06-04-2012, 11:38 PM
65% chance the Spurs win Game 6.

tlongII
06-04-2012, 11:38 PM
OKC in a blowout! :lol

Obstructed_View
06-04-2012, 11:39 PM
<----

Great minds think alike. :lol

baseline bum
06-04-2012, 11:39 PM
I'm going to say 15%. If Manu and Tony both have monster games then it's possible.

Richie
06-04-2012, 11:39 PM
Also, OKC is 7-0 at home thus far in the playoffs. I seriously doubt they drop their first home game with the Finals on the line, but keep hope alive, amirite?:lol

We were 6-0 at home before tonight, and 20-0 after Game 2. Means nothing in a close out game

romsho
06-04-2012, 11:39 PM
5%..And if your going to lose, for Gods sake ride or die with what you did all year. Shortening the rotations, having five on the floor who didn't play together all year is a desperate, flawed, panicked strategy. Won't work.

The strength of this team is their depth and their ability to use it. I can't believe a Pop coached team is going down in this fashion, Sack the fuck up and remember who you are! Quickly....

baseline bum
06-04-2012, 11:39 PM
Great minds think alike. :lol

:lol




















































:depressed

DontStopBelieving
06-04-2012, 11:40 PM
Also, OKC is 7-0 at home thus far in the playoffs. I seriously doubt they drop their first home game with the Finals on the line, but keep hope alive, amirite?:lol

The Spurs were 6-0. I seriously doubt that they'd drop their first home game with the Finals on the line..














Oh wait.

DDS4
06-04-2012, 11:40 PM
Less than 10%.

You can make a case that the series should be over already. OKC did lead in game 1.

timtonymanu
06-04-2012, 11:40 PM
At this point, I'm only confident in Manu, Leonard, and Jackson.

I can't even say which Duncan and Parker show up. Even Manu is a question mark.

The Reckoning
06-04-2012, 11:40 PM
spurs are already in rebuilding mode

Blackjack
06-04-2012, 11:40 PM
If I hadn't witnessed 2004, maybe 35-40%?

It ain't happenin'.

It's bittersweet. The Spurs gave me somethin' I thought I'd never have again in the Duncan Era again this year: hope.

But the Thunder are just better. Their star's in his prime, comin' into his own, and the rest are followin' suit.

They had their chances. Manu is a fuckin stud, don't wanna hear shit about bad shot or pass selection. Jack, too.

But they ran into a team playin' better, and a team that just had more to give.

I should be grateful they got as far as they did, that injuries didn't derail them.

But I ain't.

This sucks - wanted a fifth for Duncan like a sonbitch.

DubMcDub
06-04-2012, 11:40 PM
I won't give a percentage, but I will say that one should never mess with a dog with it's back against the wall; it will bite.


Talk about a useless, substanceless cliche.

slayermin
06-04-2012, 11:40 PM
I would say it's 15%. Winning up there will take somewhat of a miracle but this team is due to play a 7th game in the conference final. It's the only variation they haven't played yet.

ShoogarBear
06-04-2012, 11:41 PM
TBH, I'd like to see some of the Spurs' reporters plant seeds of doubt within OKC's role players during shootaround Wednesday.


I'd rather see one of them have the cojones to ask Pop what he thought he was doing in the first half.

jestersmash
06-04-2012, 11:41 PM
This may be a case of confirmation bias, but Manu tends to have Kobe-esque 11-25 games after really strong outings (like tonight).

dunkman
06-04-2012, 11:41 PM
100%, the unexpected will happen.

TE
06-04-2012, 11:42 PM
A 1% chance.

Arc
06-04-2012, 11:43 PM
i think tony is done, so less than 5%.

1Parker1
06-04-2012, 11:43 PM
Even if you're extremely pessimistic, you had to give at least a 20% chance for Spurs. 2% is crazy.

You really think 20%? Thunder haven't lost at home all playoffs, have all the momentum in the world, and even if the Spurs have a lead at any point, have shown they have the poise to withstand any runs the Spurs go on, and oh yea--they have the best closer on the court in Kevin Durant. 2% seems about right.

Problem for the Spurs is that their role players are disappearing. Even if Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Jackon have big games--they still need a role player or two to step up--and Bonner, Splitter, Green, Neal have not shown that. Meanwhile, the Thunder role players are going to play even better at home which is guaranteed and scary for the Spurs. I don't think Ibaka and Perkins and Collison will for 21-22 or whatever they made in Game 4, but they will play better.

Spurs had a chance--actually more than a chance, 3 chances in fact, to put away the Thunder and they couldn't. No one to blame but themselves--and Pop, at this point.

Capt Bringdown
06-04-2012, 11:43 PM
Blowing 2-0 leads is easy

roycrikside
06-04-2012, 11:43 PM
I'd say about 15%.

They need to have a real rotation, Parker can't get intimidated, they need about six guys to have good games simultaneously, they need OKC to miss some jumpers (especially the big 3), and they need to be so good that they're like 20 pts better than those guys because the refs will give them 15 free points.

We need to find a way to hold them to less than 95 points. That means about 43% shooting and less than 14 turnovers.

DAF86
06-04-2012, 11:44 PM
It's just one game. Pop needs to keep the rotation reasonable (TP, Manu, KL, TD, Diaw, Neal, Green, Jack and Tiago with whoever is playing well plus the big three playing 35+ minutes) and the players need to play agressive on defense but calm on offense and they got to take care the ball, some of the TO's they're having are just plain dumb/soft/weak.

This team has shown signs of greatness, a win on the road shouldn't be out of their reach.

Silverheart80
06-04-2012, 11:44 PM
Timvp -- You said it yourself a few days ago: Championships are never easy.

There hasn't been a championship yet where there wasn't some sort of major adversity where all seemed lost, that had to be overcome.

And I've seen way too many fluky things happen in Game 6s of all sports series over the last several decades to ever believe a Game 6 is over before it's even begun.

Weird stuff happens in Game 6s especially when teams think the game is over before it's won. Closeout games are the toughest games to win.

I like the media throwing dirt on us, and I love seeing every fan throwing dirt on us and saying this is over and we're dead. Everyone knows the Thunder are a rock-solid group emotionally, and they never let their emotions get the best of them. I hope they keep drinking that Kool-aid and believe that this series is over.

Believe.
:flag:

Capster
06-04-2012, 11:44 PM
I give the Spurs a 2% chance to win Game 6. Maybe I'll feel differently as this game gets further in the rear-view mirror but it'd take a got damn miracle, IMO.

What a bunch of Debbie Downers!!!! These are the Spurs we are talkin about here!!!! They can pull it out and WIN!!!!:flag:

timvp
06-04-2012, 11:45 PM
I just can picture it, tbh. I see Game 6 going down as an extended celebration for the Thunder's first trip to the Finals.

Maybe I'm just remembering how impossible it was for the Spurs to win Game 6 in 2004 but with the amount of momentum the Thunder have, as well as their studs are playing, as well as their role players are shooting and the fact that they'll have one of the loudest fans in NBA history behind them ........ I just can't imagine the Spurs winning.











I obviously hope I'm wrong but I just can't see it.

SenorSpur
06-04-2012, 11:45 PM
What we are seeing is the Spurs are being overwhelmed by the youth and athleticism of this young Thunder team. OKC is forcing its will upon the Spurs by disrupting their offensive execution through their swarming defense. The young Thunder are getting pretty much whatever they want on the offensive end - whenever they want it.

On the other side, the Spurs are contributing mightly to their demise with their continued sloppy ball-handling, careless passes and ill-advise shots. Their supreme ball movement that defined their season has devolved into 2-3 guys only getting their touches.

OKC has literally morphed into a championship-level juggernaut on both ends of the court right before our very eyes. This is not the same team that started out the in the first 2 games of this series. They're brimming with confidence and they're going to be hard to stop.

It will take a herculian effort, precise execution and their absolute best effort for the Spurs to come away with a victory. The task will indeed be a daunting one. All that said, my confidence level for Game 6 is low. I give them less than 5% chance. However, I will not count them out until it's over.

mytespurs
06-04-2012, 11:46 PM
I give the Spurs a 2% chance to win Game 6. Maybe I'll feel differently as this game gets further in the rear-view mirror but it'd take a got damn miracle, IMO.

0.5 % :(

Turning Point in this series was Game 2 when Spurs were beating them soundly and in the last quarter OKC came back w/a flurry and haven't looked back since.

Rapper
06-04-2012, 11:47 PM
0.1 %

DeadlyDynasty
06-04-2012, 11:47 PM
:lol probably. But I've never seen a Lakerfan nuttride a team that beat them this hard before.

No offense but I don't think luva, kool, or cully bandwagon'd this bad just cuz they hated the Spurs.

Spurs in 5:lol

CGD
06-04-2012, 11:47 PM
Not very high. I expect the spurs to plAy them close until the end of the 3rd and then some role player of theirs will hit a few shots in a row, which will ignite the rest of the team, and eventually lead to sepAration.

I'm just amazed at the role reversal this series took after game 2. Once brooks realized that length really bothers tony, and that he had the athletes to do the switches successfully, he negated tony and therefor the pnr attack. That meanT no more splitter, no more open looks for green and bonbon, and a reliance on td in the paint. I give serge ibaka a lot of credit for showing he can stay in front of his man when they go to the switch. Thabo was on, but manu owned him tonight, the difference maker in this series was serge.

Obstructed_View
06-04-2012, 11:47 PM
Daequan Cook hit those shots and I thought "Jaren Jackson". One team believes, one doesn't.

clambake
06-04-2012, 11:47 PM
too many gnsf in this thread.

where are the regulators?

polandprzem
06-04-2012, 11:47 PM
My confidence just splashed down the toilet


It looks like 2004

No matter what the spurs do LA is winning the shit

Holt's Cat
06-04-2012, 11:48 PM
Spurs need to shorten the rotation and be relentless.

Confidence is about 75% that Pop can pull his head out of his ass and coach a W in game 6. But there's always a chance that he effs up royally, like he did tonight.

clambake
06-04-2012, 11:49 PM
Spurs need to shorten the rotation and be relentless.

Confidence is about 75% that Pop can pull his head out of his ass and coach a W in game 6. But there's always a chance that he effs up royally, like he did tonight.

i thought the spurs played desperately and out of control. not on pop.

NickiRasgo
06-04-2012, 11:50 PM
I just can picture it, tbh. I see Game 6 going down as an extended celebration for the Thunder's first trip to the Finals.

Maybe I'm just remembering how impossible it was for the Spurs to win Game 6 in 2004 but with the amount of momentum the Thunder have, as well as their studs are playing, as well as their role players are shooting and the fact that they'll have one of the loudest fans in NBA history behind them ........ I just can't imagine the Spurs winning.











I obviously hope I'm wrong but I just can't see it.

This.

Sad but it's almost true. :depressed I don't see the Spurs winning on Game 6.

Mugen
06-04-2012, 11:50 PM
Spurs in 5:lol

Pretty sure you thought the Spurs in 6 tho :lol

tesseractive
06-04-2012, 11:50 PM
spurs need to shorten the rotation and be relentless.

qft

RuffnReadyOzStyle
06-04-2012, 11:51 PM
IMHO we've got a 25% chance, 3-1 against, which is long odds in a 2-horse race.

OKC are clearly the better team right now, but we were in games 4 and 5. What's really scaring me is how our bench has morphed from world-beating to shithouse. The starters aren't losing these games, the bench is - every time we put them in OKC goes on a run our starters then have to dig us out of.

:depressed

Beanzamillion21
06-04-2012, 11:51 PM
.01% Chance of winning game 6. :toast

spursparker9
06-04-2012, 11:52 PM
The Spurs team is definitely not a team to win from behind.

Except in 2008 vs NO Hornets. But we had game 6 on home court that series.

So I guess there is a 7% chance of winning in a loud, crazy OKC arena

Obstructed_View
06-04-2012, 11:52 PM
i thought the spurs played desperately and out of control. not on pop.

I agree that's how they played, but it's a byproduct of the rotations. Pop goes small, Pop inserts guy who hasn't played in 2 months, Pop benches starter, Pop plays fourth big first off the bench, Pop plays fourth big first off the bench alongside guy who hasn't played in 2 months.

Spurminator
06-04-2012, 11:52 PM
10%

DatBoyGood
06-04-2012, 11:52 PM
well...its either seeing the thunder fans celebrating and cheering as the thunder make their trip or when the clock hits 0.00 and the fans are left in shock and we hear boo's as the spurs walk to the lockeroom knowing they have one game left.

Russo21
06-04-2012, 11:53 PM
Stupid fucks.

We're winning this whole fucken thing! Championship number 5 on the way and it will be the oh so sweetest fucken thing ever

Confidence level sky high, we've got this shit!!

MI21
06-04-2012, 11:53 PM
I give them about a 5% chance. You just can't underestimate the confidence this gives OKC for the first half of Game 6. No pressure whatsoever for them. AsSpursDynasty would say, they will just go out there and shoot some shots.

If, and for me this is a gigantic 95% unlike if, the Spurs can head into halftime with a small lead, then from there on I think the game is a much tighter proposition.

I can't see it happening though.

DeadlyDynasty
06-04-2012, 11:53 PM
Pretty sure you thought the Spurs in 6 tho :lol

I said Spurs in 7...I still have a chance to be right (albeit slim):lol

Mugen
06-04-2012, 11:53 PM
I crunched some numbers and all I could come up with is:

ax^2 + b -c = Matt Bonner is a faggot.

Russo21
06-04-2012, 11:54 PM
I crunched some numbers and all I could come up with is:

ax^2 + b -c = Matt Bonner is a faggot.

:rollin

Mugen
06-04-2012, 11:54 PM
I said Spurs in 7...I still have a chance to be right (albeit slim):lol

Nigga, it's happenin!

Man In Black
06-04-2012, 11:55 PM
50-50

Why not the Spurs?

The support team has to play much better, they need to show us 2 good games. That's it and the Spurs can win this.

clambake
06-04-2012, 11:55 PM
I agree that's how they played, but it's a byproduct of the rotations. Pop goes small, Pop inserts guy who hasn't played in 2 months, Pop benches starter, Pop plays fourth big first off the bench, Pop plays fourth big first off the bench alongside guy who hasn't played in 2 months.

he did it for a reason. the only option was to find a matchup that could work. their play forced his hand.

not on pop. it happens.

DubMcDub
06-04-2012, 11:55 PM
You really think 20%? Thunder haven't lost at home all playoffs, have all the momentum in the world, and even if the Spurs have a lead at any point, have shown they have the poise to withstand any runs the Spurs go on, and oh yea--they have the best closer on the court in Kevin Durant. 2% seems about right.

Problem for the Spurs is that their role players are disappearing. Even if Duncan, Parker, Ginobili, Jackon have big games--they still need a role player or two to step up--and Bonner, Splitter, Green, Neal have not shown that. Meanwhile, the Thunder role players are going to play even better at home which is guaranteed and scary for the Spurs. I don't think Ibaka and Perkins and Collison will for 21-22 or whatever they made in Game 4, but they will play better.

Spurs had a chance--actually more than a chance, 3 chances in fact, to put away the Thunder and they couldn't. No one to blame but themselves--and Pop, at this point.

20% is completely fair. You'll see the Vegas odds even higher than that--probably closer to 30% or 35%.

jestersmash
06-04-2012, 11:56 PM
too many gnsf in this thread.

where are the regulators?

It's a Spurs forum and we're upstairs. It's to be expected.

I'm sure the mods will clean up the GNSF-filth (if necessary) for the gameblog downstairs during Dallas' 1st round Game 5, so I wouldn't worry too much.

Tuddy
06-04-2012, 11:56 PM
Have to go with Splitter on the block. He has to get it out of his head that the guards are going to flop everytime they switch. He is the one who can get his shot whenever he wants outside of the big 3.

Believe

emanueldavidginobili
06-04-2012, 11:57 PM
50% Spurs win, 2% is just ridiculous..Spurs lost 3 games in a row do you really think this team cant go out there and win a game, come on now

Cant_Be_Faded
06-04-2012, 11:58 PM
30%


Thunder stole our mojo. They look like the team of destiny now. Durant is a bigger, clutcher Kobe, their scrubs are hitting clutch shots, they are suffocating us in defense, they are getting 50-50 calls on the road.

And prime factor number 1 IMO, is that after playing career low minutes
After having a full week to rest coming into the series

Duncan looks slow and tired, and looked scared to shot open jump shots in the clutch.

The spurs interior defense is Duncan,.and Duncan was slow to every rotation for the last 12 quarters

clambake
06-04-2012, 11:59 PM
It's a Spurs forum and we're upstairs. It's to be expected.

I'm sure the mods will clean up the GNSF-filth (if necessary) for the gameblog downstairs during Dallas' 1st round Game 5, so I wouldn't worry too much.

no cleaning is needed.

where are the people that fought tooth and nail for years?

i miss the gang that would drop the hammer.

spurraider21
06-04-2012, 11:59 PM
honestly, i'm more sure we will take game 6 then i was we would win game 5. seeing the way the boys played in the second half (minus the run to close the third), i was as proud as i ever have been of the spurs. they will not lose game 6. they will not.

timvp, you started this thread, and you of all people should...

Believe.

SA210
06-04-2012, 11:59 PM
I agree that's how they played, but it's a byproduct of the rotations. Pop goes small, Pop inserts guy who hasn't played in 2 months, Pop benches starter, Pop plays fourth big first off the bench, Pop plays fourth big first off the bench alongside guy who hasn't played in 2 months.

This fuckin shit right here.

WTF POP!

Obstructed_View
06-05-2012, 12:00 AM
he did it for a reason. the only option was to find a matchup that could work. their play forced his hand.

not on pop. it happens.

The Spurs were up at the end of the first quarter of game three. Pop then went nuts with "adjustments" and the offense has gone completely to hell ever since.

gameFACE
06-05-2012, 12:00 AM
Confidence level is 50/50. The rational part of me thinks history is totally against the Spurs and the Spurs have shown throughout the years they are a safe team that doesn't break any pre-established patterns. They can plan their vacations on Thursday. The irrational part of me knows the Spurs pulled of a great late season and playoff run. And they're so typical of the old idea that "it gets worse before it gets better". So I'm going with the latter and say they will pull off a comeback.

siraulo23
06-05-2012, 12:00 AM
I crunched some numbers and all I could come up with is:

ax^2 + b -c = Matt Bonner is a faggot.

x= + or - sqrt [[(Matt Bonner is a faggot) + c - b] / a]

your welcome :lol

Bruno
06-05-2012, 12:00 AM
You really think 20%? Thunder haven't lost at home all playoffs, have all the momentum in the world, and even if the Spurs have a lead at any point, have shown they have the poise to withstand any runs the Spurs go on, and oh yea--they have the best closer on the court in Kevin Durant. 2% seems about right.


1Parker1 is back. :tu

I agree with everything you said but it's still basketball. It isn't rocket science. A big part of the game is based on hitting jumpshot and there are a lot of variability in it. Spurs can easily get hot and Thunder get cold. Even if you think that only a miracle or a fluke will allow Spurs to win game 6, this miracle or fluke has a greater than 2% chance to happen. That's just the nature of the game.

eyeh8u
06-05-2012, 12:02 AM
100% spurs in 7.

ElNono
06-05-2012, 12:03 AM
No chance. Too many players folded, tbh, and this was at home. This was the game to win and put the pressure on them. It's ok... we can look back at a great season.

100%duncan
06-05-2012, 12:03 AM
Confidence level (head says) - low.

Hope level (heart says) - very high.

Have been vaccinated with too much Duncan, Manu and Parker to give it up so soon.

This. 2% sounds stupid tbh.

clambake
06-05-2012, 12:03 AM
The Spurs were up at the end of the first quarter of game three. Pop then went nuts with "adjustments" and the offense has gone completely to hell ever since.

to be honest, the worm was turning. he could see it in their eyes and gate.

SPurs206
06-05-2012, 12:03 AM
50% I feel better now than I did game 5. I see some fight left in them.

Richie
06-05-2012, 12:04 AM
Personally I didn't start watching til just a few years ago, but how can you compare this to 2004? I'd take a Game 6 vs this Thunder team over the reigning (3-peat) Lakers with two Top 10 all time players

angelbelow
06-05-2012, 12:04 AM
50-50 for me.

Unfortunately, I've missed most of the past three games so I don't really have a good reason as to why.

SPurs206
06-05-2012, 12:07 AM
1Parker1 is back. :tu

I agree with everything you said but it's still basketball. It isn't rocket science. A big part of the game is based on hitting jumpshot and there are a lot of variability in it. Spurs can easily get hot and Thunder get cold. Even if you think that only a miracle or a fluke will allow Spurs to win game 6, this miracle or fluke has a greater than 2% chance to happen. That's just the nature of the game.

I also believe probablity has a lot to do with a game. Its like blackjack.

Obstructed_View
06-05-2012, 12:09 AM
to be honest, the worm was turning. he could see it in their eyes and gate.

No, he got scared and blinked. He also thought his great coaching was the reason the team was playing so well and sacrificed his team's momentum. See 2006. I'm sure you were watching.

dbreiden83080
06-05-2012, 12:12 AM
10%


Hoping the Thunder think it is over and come out flat...

clambake
06-05-2012, 12:14 AM
No, he got scared and blinked. He also thought his great coaching was the reason the team was playing so well and sacrificed his team's momentum. See 2006. I'm sure you were watching.

you don't really think this is all on pop.

i know you don't. the spurs were playing in panic attack, and they're veterans.

a little calm will get them to game 7.

mexicanjunior
06-05-2012, 12:14 AM
This reminds me alot of the Texas Rangers last year after game 6...this game was a death blow. As much as the media in DFW wanted to believe the Rangers could overcome that debacle, Rangers just didn't have the fortitude to get past it. I see this Spurs team going out in the same fashion, bodies show up for the next game but the fire will be gone because they know they emptied the chamber tonight.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
06-05-2012, 12:14 AM
1Parker1 is back. :tu

I agree with everything you said but it's still basketball. It isn't rocket science. A big part of the game is based on hitting jumpshot and there are a lot of variability in it. Spurs can easily get hot and Thunder get cold. Even if you think that only a miracle or a fluke will allow Spurs to win game 6, this miracle or fluke has a greater than 2% chance to happen. That's just the nature of the game.

I agree with all of that except the thought that the Thunder can get cold at this point, especially at home. When you are playing with the level of confidence and belief they have right now everything falls, as we've seen the past 3 games.

Pray for a long cold snap! That's our only hope at this point. :depressed

GrandeDavid
06-05-2012, 12:15 AM
The Spurs will win Game 6. 99% confident.

SpursFaninMS
06-05-2012, 12:16 AM
1Parker1 is back. :tu

I agree with everything you said but it's still basketball. It isn't rocket science. A big part of the game is based on hitting jumpshot and there are a lot of variability in it. Spurs can easily get hot and Thunder get cold. Even if you think that only a miracle or a fluke will allow Spurs to win game 6, this miracle or fluke has a greater than 2% chance to happen. That's just the nature of the game.

Agree with this.

The poise the Thunder has shown is shocking to me.

But it is basketball.

I'd say 20 percent.

I give us a 0 percent chance if Ginobili AND Duncan don't have monster games.

T Park
06-05-2012, 12:16 AM
0.

They're role players are better.

It's that simple...

mexicanjunior
06-05-2012, 12:17 AM
I agree with all of that except the thought that the Thunder can get cold at this point, especially at home. When you are playing with the level of confidence and belief they have right now everything falls, as we've seen the past 3 games.

Pray for a long cold snap! That's our only hope at this point. :depressed

We would also need to hope they somehow miraculously go cold from the charity stripe because I see them getting to the line between 20-30 times in Game 6. They will be the aggressors with the blood in the water and the refs will reward it. Considering they are the best FT shooting team in the league, it is not realistic to believe it will happen.

Paranoid Pop
06-05-2012, 12:17 AM
50% Spurs win, 2% is just ridiculous..Spurs lost 3 games in a row do you really think this team cant go out there and win a game, come on now

No they can't, even the homeriest homers saw the backdoor sweep come after game 4.

Obstructed_View
06-05-2012, 12:18 AM
you don't really think this is all on pop.

i know you don't. the spurs were playing in panic attack, and they're veterans.

a little calm will get them to game 7.

Nobody was panicking in game three but Pop. He decided to try some shit when it was completely unnecessary and they ended up getting blown out. Playing their game gives them a chance. They haven't played their game in the last ten and a half quarters. It's simply not a coincidence.

Obstructed_View
06-05-2012, 12:19 AM
We would also need to hope they somehow miraculously go cold from the charity stripe because I see them getting to the line between 20-30 times in Game 6. They will be the aggressors with the blood in the water and the refs will reward it. Considering they are the best FT shooting team in the league, it is not realistic to believe it will happen.

Or the Spurs could go back to the team that fouled the least of anyone in the league. That might help.

Basketball Power
06-05-2012, 12:21 AM
Everyone besides SJAX and Manu and Duncan are shit scared


1% chance

JustinJDW
06-05-2012, 12:22 AM
Less than 10 turnovers, 40% chance.

12+ turnovers, 5%.

Fireball
06-05-2012, 12:24 AM
2 teams ... one will win ... of course the chances are 50%

clambake
06-05-2012, 12:24 AM
Nobody was panicking in game three but Pop. He decided to try some shit when it was completely unnecessary and they ended up getting blown out. Playing their game gives them a chance. They haven't played their game in the last ten and a half quarters. It's simply not a coincidence.

you are too close to the team. i could see it happening.

and i don't present this with any disrespect. its been like watching a clock run down. the passing, the spacing, the poise.

its not over. some calm will seal the deal.

Keepin' it real
06-05-2012, 12:24 AM
ZERO percent, for these reasons:



Law of averages -- The Spurs are finally paying for that 20-game winning streak. Things have a way of evening out. A loss in game 6 will give the Spurs a playoff winning percentage almost identical to their regular season winning percentage. That's why some of the smarter people on Spurstalk were hoping for a loss or two in the earlier rounds to give the Spurs a better chance mathematically. You can't cheat math.
History -- If memory serves, the Spurs are winless in the Duncan era in game 6 coming off a loss and down 3-2. In fact, the Spurs usually get their asses kicked in this situation.
No more bench -- The experts who said a deep bench doesn't win an NBA championship are looking pretty smart right now. Bonner, Neal, Blair, Splitter, and worst of all, Green (even though he's a "starter.") They have totally been unable to handle the pressure. It's been painful to watch, and I expect them to be at their worst in Game 6, even they even get to play meaningful minutes.
Offense lost its mojo -- Need I say more?
Timmy Duncan is too tired -- The every-other-day schedule caught up to him. So much for "resting" him throughout the season. Didn't work.

mexicanjunior
06-05-2012, 12:24 AM
Or the Spurs could go back to the team that fouled the least of anyone in the league. That might help.

I never thought it would be realistic to keep OKC off the line, they drive the lane way too much to expect the Spurs to keep up that level of foul free defense. Our frontline just isn't quick enough to rotate on help defense and stay in front of a driver without fouling this athletic group.

DPG21920
06-05-2012, 12:25 AM
0.

They're role players are better.

It's that simple...

Since when? Their RP's are playing better is what you mean.

polandprzem
06-05-2012, 12:26 AM
To be strict

0 confidence
1 hope somewhere inside me. But so deep deep that I barely recognize it

timvp
06-05-2012, 12:27 AM
I agree with everything you said but it's still basketball. It isn't rocket science. A big part of the game is based on hitting jumpshot and there are a lot of variability in it. Spurs can easily get hot and Thunder get cold. Even if you think that only a miracle or a fluke will allow Spurs to win game 6, this miracle or fluke has a greater than 2% chance to happen. That's just the nature of the game.

Logically, I know that's right.

But in reality, I just don't think it works that way. Even if the Spurs get hot and the Thunder get cold, they've made hard-charging runs in every game. Without fail. OKC shrugs aside any hot streak by the Spurs and comes roaring back within a couple minutes.

I guess if the Spurs build a fluke-ish 30 point lead they may hang on but I just don't see it. Maybe I'm being emo but I just can't see it.

Spur|n|Austin
06-05-2012, 12:30 AM
Logically, I know that's right.

But in reality, I just don't think it works that way. Even if the Spurs get hot and the Thunder get cold, they've made hard-charging runs in every game. Without fail. OKC shrugs aside any hot streak by the Spurs and comes roaring back within a couple minutes.

I guess if the Spurs build a fluke-ish 30 point lead they may hang on but I just don't see it. Maybe I'm being emo but I just can't see it.

As a coach you have to understand what exactly is stopping those hard-charging runs, and counter it. It's tough to really put a finger on it other than the obvious KD run.

SpursFaninMS
06-05-2012, 12:31 AM
ZERO percent, for these reasons:



Law of averages -- The Spurs are finally paying for that 20-game winning streak. Things have a way of evening out. A loss in game 6 will give the Spurs a playoff winning percentage almost identical to their regular season winning percentage. That's why some of the smarter people on Spurstalk were hoping for a loss or two in the earlier rounds to give the Spurs a better chance mathematically. You can't cheat math.
History -- If memory serves, the Spurs are winless in the Duncan era in game 6 coming off a loss and down 3-2. In fact, the Spurs usually get their asses kicked in this situation.
No more bench -- The experts who said a deep bench doesn't win an NBA championship are looking pretty smart right now. Bonner, Neal, Blair, Splitter, and worst of all, Green (even though he's a "starter.") They have totally been unable to handle the pressure. It's been painful to watch, and I expect them to be at their worst in Game 6, even they even get to play meaningful minutes.
Offense lost its mojo -- Need I say more?
Timmy Duncan is too tired -- The every-other-day schedule caught up to him. So much for "resting" him throughout the season. Didn't work.



I don't believe anyone was wrong about our bench. Our bench is incredibly deep, but they are all role players who depend on Parker and Ginobili to create for them.

Offense hasn't lost its "mojo." It has been shut down.

I think your last reason is the most important. With them taking Parker and our catch-and-shoot guys away, we desperately need Duncan to be a force. You can just see that he is worn down.

Obstructed_View
06-05-2012, 12:32 AM
you are too close to the team. i could see it happening.

and i don't present this with any disrespect. its been like watching a clock run down. the passing, the spacing, the poise.

its not over. some calm will seal the deal.

Since it wasn't happening until after Pop started fucking with the rotation, I'm unsure how you could see it. Brooks inserted Sefolosha and Pop lost his marbles and started to scramble. It's the same thing that happened when AJ made Harris the starter instead of Griffin. Pop countered by using the rotation that he ran against Sacramento.

DMC
06-05-2012, 12:32 AM
One thing the odds don't cover is will to win.

clambake
06-05-2012, 12:36 AM
Since it wasn't happening until after Pop started fucking with the rotation, I'm unsure how you could see it. Brooks inserted Sefolosha and Pop lost his marbles and started to scramble. It's the same thing that happened when AJ made Harris the starter instead of Griffin. Pop countered by using the rotation that he ran against Sacramento.

ok

LongtimeSpursFan
06-05-2012, 12:37 AM
50 percent. Either Spurs win or they dont. Take away all your emotion and think rationally. Momentum doesnt carry from one game to another. Each game is uniquely different. That is why you do the things you can control and hope for the best. For most of the season the Spurs have been a very good basketball team. A team that many experts have called 'one of the best basketball teams' ever. They shoot the ball well, pass well and can defend. I thought they finally got that back in fourth quarters of game 4 and 5. Lets get our turnovers back to normal and play Spurs basketball.

Borosai
06-05-2012, 12:38 AM
To be honest, this looks like the same Spurs team that we've seen dismissed from the playoffs for the past three years, each time getting more embarrassing.

If history means anything, I'd have to say the Spurs will get blown out in game 6. But I hope they man the fuck up and play some good basketball again.

ElNono
06-05-2012, 12:45 AM
What does the binomial distribution says?

timvp
06-05-2012, 12:46 AM
I think I'm also factoring in last year's elimination. That was a weak ass effort on the road against a team that was like 1/10th as good as the Thunder. The Big 3 went out with such a whimper in that game that I can't imagine the Spurs playing 500 times better in order to win Wednesday night. Even Manu, the ultimate competitor on the basketball court, last year seemed out of it.

The Spurs have never really be a great back to the wall team ... even when they were great, tbh.

Spur|n|Austin
06-05-2012, 12:47 AM
To be honest, this looks like the same Spurs team that we've seen dismissed from the playoffs for the past three years, each time getting more embarrassing.

If history means anything, I'd have to say the Spurs will get blown out in game 6. But I hope they man the fuck up and play some good basketball again.

Maybe, Bonner will help us man up huh?

DPG21920
06-05-2012, 12:48 AM
So you're saying they lack heart

polandprzem
06-05-2012, 12:48 AM
I think I'm also factoring in last year's elimination. That was a weak ass effort on the road against a team that was like 1/10th as good as the Thunder. The Big 3 went out with such a whimper in that game that I can't imagine the Spurs playing 500 times better in order to win Wednesday night. Even Manu, the ultimate competitor on the basketball court, last year seemed out of it.

The Spurs have never really be a great back to the wall team ... even when they were great, tbh.

Dallas series


That also ended bad :depressed

clambake
06-05-2012, 12:48 AM
I think I'm also factoring in last year's elimination. That was a weak ass effort on the road against a team that was like 1/10th as good as the Thunder. The Big 3 went out with such a whimper in that game that I can't imagine the Spurs playing 500 times better in order to win Wednesday night. Even Manu, the ultimate competitor on the basketball court, last year seemed out of it.

The Spurs have never really be a great back to the wall team ... even when they were great, tbh.

:lol i like the effort! :toast

loveforthegame
06-05-2012, 12:49 AM
My confidence is so low right now I'm tempted to not even watch the game. Maybe I'll feel better tomorrow or Wednesday morning but not now.

Outside of Leonard, Jackson, and maybe Ginobili, it's hard to believe in this team.

polandprzem
06-05-2012, 12:49 AM
So you're saying they lack heart

They do lack creativity IMO... and then heart has no chance overpowering it

spurraider21
06-05-2012, 12:49 AM
The Spurs have never really be a great back to the wall team ... even when they were great, tbh.

2005 NBA finals

spursince#99
06-05-2012, 12:52 AM
in the first 6 minutes of the game i will know....

+1

Fabbs
06-05-2012, 12:55 AM
15%

Just admit Pop has gone full retard people.
That 2nd quarter lineup :rollin

etbluffer
06-05-2012, 12:55 AM
I'll give a 51% chance. Spurs have only played one great game in this series and I believe they are due. Harden said he succumbed to pressure in Game 1, imagine Game 6 at home with a chance to go to the Finals. Spurs will get and keep a lead!

Keepin' it real
06-05-2012, 12:56 AM
The Spurs facing elimination is usually not a pretty sight. Honestly, I think I'll just watch porn instead.

baseline bum
06-05-2012, 12:57 AM
I honestly think the most likely outcome is a 20 point loss, and like timvp said, an extended celebration for OKC's first trip to the Finals.

timvp
06-05-2012, 12:58 AM
So you're saying they lack heartNah, some teams do better when their backs are against the wall. Like those Pistons teams and maybe even the current Celtics. But I never have had that sort of confidence with the Spurs. Hasn't made them any less great over the years, though.


2005 NBA finalsGame 1 and Game 2 were far and away the best they played. They more survived the end of that series than thrived, tbh.

polandprzem
06-05-2012, 12:58 AM
2005 NBA finals

Wall not Wallace


Spurs in 2003 also blew 2-0

Borosai
06-05-2012, 12:59 AM
Maybe, Bonner will help us man up huh?

Perhaps, but one thing is certain: these losses are his fault, as usual.

mexicanjunior
06-05-2012, 12:59 AM
The Spurs have never really be a great back to the wall team ... even when they were great, tbh.

I can only recall them winning once on the road in the Duncan era when their backs were truly against the wall (elimination game). That Hornets team in 2008 wasn't nearly as good as this OKC team...

z0sa
06-05-2012, 01:00 AM
Pretty low tbh. But I'm far from hopeless.

DrSteffo
06-05-2012, 01:01 AM
21.38%

timvp
06-05-2012, 01:02 AM
I can only recall them winning once on the road in the Duncan era when their backs were truly against the wall (elimination game). That Hornets team in 2008 wasn't nearly as good as this OKC team...

And the fluke-ish aspect of that game is it was Parker hitting all the big shots while Ginobili and Duncan choked. Who would have thought the Spurs could win a Game 7 on the road when prime-ish Ginobili and Duncan combined to miss their final 13 shots or whatever it was.

Mugen
06-05-2012, 01:02 AM
Didn't the Spurs have a lead in the 4th of Game 6 against Memphis?

I remember Dice hitting a jumper, MEM calling a timeout and the Spurs never recovered.

polandprzem
06-05-2012, 01:04 AM
I know the answer to the spurs making such horrific collapses


I will start my own thread to state my point

baseline bum
06-05-2012, 01:05 AM
Didn't the Spurs have a lead in the 4th of Game 6 against Memphis?

I remember Dice hitting a jumper, MEM calling a timeout and the Spurs never recovered.

I think Manu cut it to like 6 going into the fourth with a halfcourt buzzer-beater to end the third, but then Memphis went on a run to start the fourth and game over. I never went and rewatched that abortion of a game though, so I could be wrong.

DPG21920
06-05-2012, 01:05 AM
What's crazy is that I still don't feel the Spurs need a fluke to win. They need to just play smarter and harder. But when momentum gets going like this that goes out the window and it's hard to stay the course.

tesseractive
06-05-2012, 01:05 AM
1Parker1 is back. :tu

I agree with everything you said but it's still basketball. It isn't rocket science. A big part of the game is based on hitting jumpshot and there are a lot of variability in it. Spurs can easily get hot and Thunder get cold. Even if you think that only a miracle or a fluke will allow Spurs to win game 6, this miracle or fluke has a greater than 2% chance to happen. That's just the nature of the game.
Bruno droppin' science. :tu

mexicanjunior
06-05-2012, 01:06 AM
And the fluke-ish aspect of that game is it was Parker hitting all the big shots while Ginobili and Duncan choked. Who would have thought the Spurs could win a Game 7 on the road when prime-ish Ginobili and Duncan combined to miss their final 13 shots or whatever it was.

I remember Finley hitting huge shots in that game also...one of his rare clutch playoff performances.

Spursmania
06-05-2012, 01:06 AM
My head says not a snowball's chance in hell. My heart says Believe.

Keepin' it real
06-05-2012, 01:07 AM
I think Manu cut it to like 6 going into the fourth with a halfcourt buzzer-beater to end the third, but then Memphis went on a run to start the fourth and game over. I never went and rewatched that abortion of a game though, so I could be wrong.

The Spurs took the lead in the 4th, then collapsed immediately.

Mugen
06-05-2012, 01:09 AM
Tbh, I feel more confident about the Spurs chances in Game 6 against OKC than I did against Memphis last year.

Sure, it's probably 8% compared to 7% but last year's team was beaten up and just didn't have the personnel to hang with Memphis.

I just don't think the Spurs have played a complete game yet this series so I'm holding out hope.

ViceCity86
06-05-2012, 01:10 AM
15% chance:depressed

LakerLanny
06-05-2012, 01:11 AM
I would give the Spurs a 20% chance in Game 6. It will be very tough to win there.

I am surprised at how this has gone, I thought Spurs would win in 5. Tonight's loss was the series decider most likely.

Spurs da champs
06-05-2012, 01:15 AM
50% if Parker doesn't play like a pussy & Duncan decides to show up in 1st half; but that's not happening so 1%.

tesseractive
06-05-2012, 01:24 AM
Game 1 and Game 2 were far and away the best they played. They more survived the end of that series than thrived, tbh.

And yet they did survive. That's all they have to do in game 6.

kaji157
06-05-2012, 01:26 AM
I am very confident, the same i was for the first 2 games at OKC, we are still the same team that beat them not so long ago.
And we have Ginobili now.

slick'81
06-05-2012, 01:33 AM
0 i hate to say it but this spurs team doesnt stand a chance in okc

kaji157
06-05-2012, 01:37 AM
We should make a vbookie for next game, but straight up, Spurs WIN or LOOSE

Sean Cagney
06-05-2012, 01:38 AM
OKC in a blowout! :lol

Like the knees on your two franchise players huh :wow:rollin:lmao
I am very confident, the same i was for the first 2 games at OKC, we are still the same team that beat them not so long ago.
And we have Ginobili now.

Yeah we have him now but he alone can't save this team, who else would show up?

kaji157
06-05-2012, 01:44 AM
Like the knees on your two franchise players huh :wow:rollin:lmao

Yeah we have him now but he alone can't save this team, who else would show up?

I think Ginobili, Duncan, Jakson and Leonard are our safest bet. And i also think Splitter, Parker, Neal and Blair may come to the party.

icem
06-05-2012, 01:45 AM
if the thunder role players showed up in SA, what do you think they will do at home ??

this will be a blow out

Sean Cagney
06-05-2012, 01:46 AM
I think Manu cut it to like 6 going into the fourth with a halfcourt buzzer-beater to end the third, but then Memphis went on a run to start the fourth and game over. I never went and rewatched that abortion of a game though, so I could be wrong.

Naw Dyess did hit a three in that 4th to put them up, then immediately after that there the Grizz took over after that. Then it was over. The Spurs did fight hard though, but later on could not get stops like lately.


I think Ginobili, Duncan, Jakson and Leonard are our safest bet. And i also think Splitter, Parker, Neal and Blair may come to the party.

You would hope so!

midnightpulp
06-05-2012, 01:48 AM
No. More. Gary. Neal.

Arcadian
06-05-2012, 01:48 AM
I'm at about 60-70%. The Spurs are too proud to lose four straight games in the playoffs. Besides - everyone here has to admit this - if they can JUST get back to how they were playing before, they really are championship contenders.

therealtruth
06-05-2012, 01:55 AM
Nobody was panicking in game three but Pop. He decided to try some shit when it was completely unnecessary and they ended up getting blown out. Playing their game gives them a chance. They haven't played their game in the last ten and a half quarters. It's simply not a coincidence.

I agree.

jiggy_55
06-05-2012, 01:55 AM
45%.. Cut the turnovers and Spurs woulda won tonight, hope they can at least do that Game 6. Also, if Timmy isn't foul trouble we woulda won tonight, he was limited to 33 minutes but ended up with a +17! We sucked defensively when he was off the court.

PingPong
06-05-2012, 01:56 AM
The entire team, including staff would watch that game lost to the Lakers and remember what they did in the next game.

Spur|n|Austin
06-05-2012, 02:00 AM
No. More. Gary. Neal.

jiggy_55
06-05-2012, 02:02 AM
Tbh, I feel more confident about the Spurs chances in Game 6 against OKC than I did against Memphis last year.

Sure, it's probably 8% compared to 7% but last year's team was beaten up and just didn't have the personnel to hang with Memphis.

I just don't think the Spurs have played a complete game yet this series so I'm holding out hope.

Exactly, cut the damn turnovers and that is enough to win. We really one more guard to hit some 3's and stretch the floor, can't afford for Neal and Green to both be shooting bricks left and right.

polandprzem
06-05-2012, 02:02 AM
Yea when neal got into the game I said-- oh fuck

I want Green to sustain some D

Bruno
06-05-2012, 02:15 AM
After thinking more at it, I'm going with a 30% chance for Spurs to win game 6.

In addition of Spurs being able to get a fluke/miracle win, I see two positive factors for Spurs that up their chance:
1) Some players won't quit. Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Jackson.. are tough minded players. They won't stop trying hard just because Spurs are down 3-2.
2) Spurs will be in a nothing to lose game and it might free up some players who have struggled. Green, Neal or Splitter might stop overthinking what they are doing on the court and just start playing their game.

I don't want to give Spurs' fans some false hope because the likely outcome is of course Thunder winning game 6 but I don't consider that as being unavoidable.

mexicanjunior
06-05-2012, 02:23 AM
I can only recall them winning once on the road in the Duncan era when their backs were truly against the wall (elimination game). That Hornets team in 2008 wasn't nearly as good as this OKC team...

Forgot about the Dallas series in 2006, game 6 on the road to force a game 7. It took Terry getting suspended for us to pull that one out though.

roycrikside
06-05-2012, 02:28 AM
Spurs played with a lot of heart in coming back from 3-1 down against Dallas in 2006, and that Mavs team was probably as good as this OKC team. I think that Spurs team had more heart though. They were seriously pissed that the refs basically stole two games from them in Games 3 and 4.

We'll see what kind of heart this Spurs team has. They're just not mentally engaged for 48 minutes, and at OKC you have to be sharp from beginning to end with no let up.

Fabbs
06-05-2012, 02:31 AM
Is Patty Mills capable of filling in?

Because Parker at times has been the buzzkill.

crc21209
06-05-2012, 02:31 AM
Honestly, I remember last years crappy Spurs putting up a HELL of a fight in Memphis in Game 6, even though they still ended up losing. I expect Manu, Tim, Tony, Jack, and Kawhi to come out fighting and give it their all. I know that for a damn fact. The question is, who else wants to join them?

mudyez
06-05-2012, 02:31 AM
Better than 50%!!!

If we had won game 5 it probably would be around 20% but I have a feeling the Spurs have something left and OKC might look at the Finals a little to early!

I'm confident we at least can make it 7 games!

roycrikside
06-05-2012, 02:31 AM
One thing LJ is right about is Thunder always seem to come back and nothing fazes them. Even in the regular season game @OKC when Blair beasted early, we were up 26 in the 2nd quarter and by early in the 4th they actually led by a couple before Green got hot and we won that game.

Green and Blair... lol. Seems like 50 years ago.

FkLA
06-05-2012, 02:31 AM
After thinking more at it, I'm going with a 30% chance for Spurs to win game 6.

In addition of Spurs being able to get a fluke/miracle win, I see two positive factors for Spurs that up their chance:
1) Some players won't quit. Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Jackson.. are tough minded players. They won't stop trying hard just because Spurs are down 3-2.
2) Spurs will be in a nothing to lose game and it might free up some players who have struggled. Green, Neal or Splitter might stop overthinking what they are doing on the court and just start playing their game.

I don't want to give Spurs' fans some false hope because the likely outcome is of course Thunder winning game 6 but I don't consider that as being unavoidable.

lol at including Parker with those other players...guy being so easily neutralized is why the spurs have lost 3 in a row.

therealtruth
06-05-2012, 02:33 AM
Exactly, cut the damn turnovers and that is enough to win. We really one more guard to hit some 3's and stretch the floor, can't afford for Neal and Green to both be shooting bricks left and right.

I haven't seen a championship Spurs team show such disregard for the ball. It's ridiculous. Even simple things like dribble handoffs were becoming turnovers.

mingus
06-05-2012, 02:33 AM
If Tony maximizes his skillet, we have a damn good chance of winning. He has to let it fly. He's been reluctant.

mingus
06-05-2012, 02:34 AM
Game 6 is a career defining game for Parker.

crc21209
06-05-2012, 02:35 AM
I think I'm also factoring in last year's elimination. That was a weak ass effort on the road against a team that was like 1/10th as good as the Thunder. The Big 3 went out with such a whimper in that game that I can't imagine the Spurs playing 500 times better in order to win Wednesday night. Even Manu, the ultimate competitor on the basketball court, last year seemed out of it.

The Spurs have never really be a great back to the wall team ... even when they were great, tbh.

I actually remember the Spurs putting up a pretty good fight in Game 6 at Memphis considering they had Manu with 1 arm, no front-line outside of TD, and a pussy in RJ. I expect this team with a healthy Manu, TD, Tony, Jax, and Kawhi to put up a way better fight than last years team in that elimination game.

silverblk mystix
06-05-2012, 02:35 AM
Spurs will win game 6.

It is a fact.

Dingle Barry
06-05-2012, 03:12 AM
I want to believe, but this game took it all out of me.

Put me in the okc extended celebration column. Lots of okie alley oops and retarded spurs turnovers. Fuuuuuck

RuffnReadyOzStyle
06-05-2012, 03:20 AM
Logically, I know that's right.

But in reality, I just don't think it works that way. Even if the Spurs get hot and the Thunder get cold, they've made hard-charging runs in every game. Without fail. OKC shrugs aside any hot streak by the Spurs and comes roaring back within a couple minutes.

I guess if the Spurs build a fluke-ish 30 point lead they may hang on but I just don't see it. Maybe I'm being emo but I just can't see it.

That's the way I see it too. OKC is just too good right now.

You knew when we roared into the lead in the 3rd today that they'd come back at us, and soon enough we were down 9 again. Our vaunted bench has been mostly pathetic in this series, digging holes for the starters to dig out of. Ugh.

:depressed

MI21
06-05-2012, 03:22 AM
That's the way I see it too. OKC is just too good right now.

You knew when we roared into the lead in the 3rd today that they'd come back at us, and soon enough we were down 9 again. Our vaunted bench has been mostly pathetic in this series, digging holes for the starters to dig out of. Ugh.

:depressed

Yep, the bench is really contributing to the Spurs failing to close out quarters. I'd hazard a guess that the Spurs +/- over the final 3 minutes of quarters would be just disgusting.

Budkin
06-05-2012, 03:23 AM
5%

therealtruth
06-05-2012, 03:23 AM
If Tony lays an egg in game 6 I want him shipped out of here as soon as possible. Maybe for a draft pick. That 6'5" PG from Europe can take over.

spurs10
06-05-2012, 03:43 AM
The fact that Green, Tiago, Bonner, Blair and Mills are out of the lineup dont make me optimistic. TP has dropped his energy of play like he's being blackmailed.

Budkin
06-05-2012, 03:46 AM
I just don't understand what happened to these guys. It's mind boggling and depressing as shit. We were well on our way to #5

Durant 35
06-05-2012, 03:48 AM
Nervous for game 6 but we have gotten better every game and the star power has really been the difference the past 3 games.

Spurs da champs
06-05-2012, 03:51 AM
Nervous for game 6 but we have gotten better every game and the star power has really been the difference the past 3 games.

The others have really been the difference; it was Cook tonight his 3 minutes changed the whole game.

Capt Bringdown
06-05-2012, 03:55 AM
I just don't understand what happened to these guys. It's mind boggling and depressing as shit. We were well on our way to #5

Confidence was soaring and we seemed to be improving - then the Spurs fell off a cliff.

Well, it's happened before, and I wonder if that's part of the problem. Spurs look snakebit and psyched out, as in "Oh nooo, not this again..."

Spurs faced their demons and the demons won.

rascal
06-05-2012, 04:34 AM
Spurs: 20 - 4
Would've thunk it?
Sad...and pissed.

Bottom line the Spurs are just not that good. The weak frontline outside of Duncan kills them. Splitter is nothing more than a weak role player and expectations were too high for him from this board.

rascal
06-05-2012, 04:34 AM
Spurs: 20 - 4
Would've thunk it?
Sad...and pissed.

Bottom line the Spurs are just not that good. The weak frontline outside of Duncan kills them. Splitter is nothing more than a weak role player and expectations were too high for him from this board.

The lakers would have destroyed them.

ersinert
06-05-2012, 04:38 AM
I agree.


I agree also. Too many minutes for a weird line up in the second quarter.

rascal
06-05-2012, 04:39 AM
What is the Spurs record in their elimination games through the Duncan/Parker/Manu era? I know it is not good. They will have to win 2 elimination games in a row now.

smaka
06-05-2012, 04:41 AM
Also, OKC is 7-0 at home thus far in the playoffs. I seriously doubt they drop their first home game with the Finals on the line, but keep hope alive, amirite?:lol

but, but... we were 100% at home too, so, you never know. Timmy looked really pissed off yesterday and he might be in beast mode in OKC, who knows.

It's not over until it's over. BELIEVE
:flag::flag::lobt2:

therealtruth
06-05-2012, 04:44 AM
I actually remember the Spurs putting up a pretty good fight in Game 6 at Memphis considering they had Manu with 1 arm, no front-line outside of TD, and a pussy in RJ. I expect this team with a healthy Manu, TD, Tony, Jax, and Kawhi to put up a way better fight than last years team in that elimination game.

That's the whole reason they got Jax. I know it must be killing Jax to see the Spurs outcompeted.

therealtruth
06-05-2012, 04:45 AM
Bottom line the Spurs are just not that good. The weak frontline outside of Duncan kills them. Splitter is nothing more than a weak role player and expectations were too high for him from this board.

The lakers would have destroyed them.

I disagree. Splitter's confidence is down like it is for a lot of our other role players. He played much better earlier in the year.

ersinert
06-05-2012, 04:51 AM
20-30%. But I'll be way less nervous in game 6 than 5, as im thinking that we have already lost the series.

50Bestspurever
06-05-2012, 05:00 AM
100%... this spurs team aint a bunch of [email protected] have done incredible things this year without the smoke and mirrors of seasons past....they are who they are and reality will set in for the thunder...spurs in 7 baby and timmy gets his 5th and final ring.

sehui
06-05-2012, 05:12 AM
wtf? 2%?

I think we have a solid 50-50 chance - with our backs against the wall. The Spurs have played well during stretches - we are doing things right in small amounts of playing times. We played like that 20 winning streak Spurs during those stretches.

It's up to the players to play that hard the whole 48 minutes of the game. It's possible, definitely possible. And if there's one NBA team currently in the league that can pull it off, it's us! Our players have countless years of experience. Boris, Jackson have both seen their share of playoff battles. I don't need to mention Tony, Timmy, and Manu.

There is hope. Series ain't over until it's over gentlemen.

I'll admit I was cocky after those 2 wins - I thought this was going to be a easy series. But this is exactly what we need, a challenge. If we can't beat these guys, we don't deserve a championship. Plain and simple.

lmbebo
06-05-2012, 06:49 AM
I'll sat 15% of winning.

But Tim and TP need to join Manu in at least providing some energy and momentum. In OKC, I expect role players to struggle out the gate. Our big 3 really need to show up in this series. We've lived off of role players playing big all season. In the playoffs, you need times when your star players play like stars. We've gotten as far as we have without that. They need to in Game 6.

And this officiating has been pretty bad. Its only going to get worse on Wednesday.

BRs.Ganso
06-05-2012, 07:23 AM
play bonner/blair combo again and i'll give 0%.

Typical London Boy
06-05-2012, 07:25 AM
I think we have about a 20% chance. One thing's clear - we have to start well and build up a healthy lead. I just can't see us overcoming the Thunder once we let them go up by 10+ points (as in the past three games).

That's what was so frustrating about last night. OKC were 0-7 and had three fouls in the first 52 seconds, and yet all we could manage was a pitiful 5-0 lead. If we'd really put them to the sword, and gone up even 12-0, I think we could've used that as the platform required and seen the game out.

I just can't see this team overcoming OKC once we go behind by more than three points.

urunobili
06-05-2012, 07:25 AM
somewhat confident. 2/5 chances to win game 6

boutons_deux
06-05-2012, 07:29 AM
Since Pop has de-emphasized defense for scoring, Spurs can't stop the Thunder, while the Spurs' offense hasn't overcome OKC's solid defense.

Worse, the Spurs have lost all confidence. Game6 will be the coup-de-grace.

kuato
06-05-2012, 07:32 AM
Nobody can defend KD, Bonner can't hit a fucking 3, Neal is like Parker, if they doesn't score they are pretty useless, more than useless, they are counterproductive, Green is inconsistent, OKC is just a better team.

Spurs Brazil
06-05-2012, 07:38 AM
In these situations the team best player has to show. During the whole season our best player was Tony. If the 2012 Tony Parker shows up I give us 40%. If the Parker of the last 3 games makes an appearance we have no chance

TampaDude
06-05-2012, 07:49 AM
Spurs got this. :hat

G-Dawgg
06-05-2012, 08:03 AM
As Popovich said "..its not supposed to be easy.."
In order for the Spurs to be the Champs they need to be capable of overcoming adversity. If they have the heart of a champion they will win game 6. If they don't have that heart, then they don't deserve to hoist the trophy.

Simple as that. Period.

Its a big boy game, so lets hope the Spurs grow a set of nuts and get out of their big-girl panties and prove they even deserve a shot at the 'chip...

Go Spurs Go

carina_gino20
06-05-2012, 08:32 AM
It's blatantly obvious what's wrong with these Spurs...inconsistent defense. In previous championship years, we could weather offensive droughts because the defense was solid. For the past four/five years, they've had to be almost perfect on offense to account for their lackluster defense. But how many great offensive teams did the Spurs of old shut down on their way to the championship?

Walton Buys Off Me
06-05-2012, 08:32 AM
Realistically we don't have more than a 20% chance of winning tomorrow.

We've lost momentum.

Manu will be gassed after carrying the team last night by himself and getting no support.

Our rotations have been taken apart (i.e. the chemistry and confidence is gone)

We have no point guard.

Great season, no shame in losing to this Thunder team but the bottom line is OKC is better coached and have better players.

Hats off to Scott Brooks, Kevin Durant, James Harden, Nick Collison and Serge Ibaka- they outplayed (and outcoached) anyone they were matched up against routinely in this series.

As long as the Heat don't win the title, I'm ok.

OldSilentHill
06-05-2012, 09:13 AM
28%

You have to think they are gonna TRY to win, with the heart.

At least Pop, Manu, Duncan, Kiwi and Jackson. Pop should start.

silverblackfan
06-05-2012, 09:14 AM
Not very confident, mainly because the Thunder are very confident. I wish our guys could rattle them a bit, instead of the opposite. Hard to believe this young squad is taking it to the Spurs like this.
About 30%. I would be higher if our guys could play loose and get back to their offensive rhythm, but in a close out game with Tony shriveling up, doubtful.

OldSilentHill
06-05-2012, 09:23 AM
Step up!!

FINGER UP your game too! ---------> Thatīs what nasty means !!!!!!!

:ihit

Dr. John R. Brinkley
06-05-2012, 09:26 AM
22% chance we somehow sneak one out. 78% chance of Spurs getting run. I'm curious what the spread for game 6 will be. I'd put it at 9 points without a second thought.

The problem with game 6 is that we can count on the bench even less this time because it's on the road. Sure, it's possible the bench comes to life but that's a huge stretch considering they couldn't do shit while at home. So that means this is up to: Tony, Tim, Manu, Jackson, Leonard, Neal, Diaw, and maybe Blair. Manu will be gassed. We all know he can't repeat this performance again two days later.

I'm very glad that Adande article came out. Parker loves praise. I hope this motivates him to have the game of his life, because if he doesn't this series will haunt him and define his legacy.